Skype is an MS product, so it sucks on linux by intention.
Thunderbird only sucks if you want to connect to an outlook server...
MS Office is ok as long as it is an old version, before ribbons.
Apple's Numbers, sucks, it sucks so bad it is close to unusable, it went the same way like ribbons, stupid toolbars to set formatting instead of menus and if necessary a dialog. Same for Apple's Pages...
Libre/Open office is in between. Still classical menus but incomprehensible supposed ways a user is interacting with the software.
For many companies the cloud is only cpu power, and connectivity. There is nothing wrong in putting stuff into the cloud if you have backups of your data and can reliable shift from one cloud provider to another one, for a company. And for a private person it is just convenient to use cloud based back up storage. I don't... because I back up my private stuff myself.
I was once involved in second and third level support in a data center in a bank. Due to a huge conctruction project, there was fears a digger would cut the power.
So they made a test, cutting off the primary power connection, to see if the secondary (and after that the emergency power) would take over.
Well, off the servers went. Turned out the secondary power was never connected, neither was the emergency power.
However they had a second data center... which took over.
Actually it is not. It is a pretty safe assumption that people reporting thise where sexually abused as children, most likely by close relatives: aliens.
Instead of killing it you as well could have tried to improve it. There speaks nothing against having an improved shuttle with cost and capabilities compareable with Elons space company. America let the shuttly die a slow death, and took into account the death of two crews... That had nothing to do with costs, but political unwill, bad management etc. The challenger loss was completely avoidable, especially the crew. The crew lived till the cockpit hit the ground. The parachute system to rescue the cockpit was canceled/scratched because of costs. WTF... how much would the cost have been for a shuttle that does dozens of missions? To rescue one crew?
The shuttle was not expensive because it was expensive. All the stuff on ground was expensive... the idea that a few companies get rich on it was expensive. Your stupid idea how capitalizem works in government versus company interaction was expensive.
You grossly overestimate what conductivity has to do with grid losses. And you grossly overestimate how many miles of wires you can span with a mere 10,000tonnes of gold. Grid losses are in the range of 5%-7%... because of distance, and radiation, not because of conductivity, otherwise the grid would be made from aluminium etc.
The defense is easy: o Terrorism to attack the cities and population of the owners of said system o Assassins killing the operators, their families, the military and political figure heads
You don't really 'mine' asteroids. Most asteroids have a pure core of iron/nickle or gold or patinum etc. You basically just cut pure blocks of the metal out of them. So you numbers of mining costs and yield are way off.
That burden is often left to whomever is in charge of IT. In the scenario we're discussing here, there are two older IT workers who feel they don't need to learn anything new, and can put forth minimal effort to maintain what they are comfortable with and little else. That is actually not the scenario. They most likely learned a lot of stuff in the niche they were working (Windows) on their own time. No where does the article imply that they where "lazy".
And then again, in our time, so many people tell you to specialize, it is typical in IT that even old foxes only know a few systems (operation systems) and don't branch out into others.
I for my part will never ever learn anything about windows... if outlook is not working, I call IT... from my point of view windows is a useless pile of shit, except for running it in a VM for an old game or so...
They probably never had _time_ to learn besides doing the job.
And they are likely as uncertain as the asker about: what to learn!
I'm more architect and software developer and a little bit of everything else (DevOps / ScrumMaster etc.)
I find enough stuff to learn by myself... a new language or new framework etc.
But as an IT man... (well I actually expect everyone to be fluent on the command line in *ix environments, because that was always the case where ever I worked, so an IT man who is not fluent in a shell sounds exceptionally strange)
I'm a soon 51 year old software developer (freelance). In my team (in total 12) I'm the oldest with age average around 40. Today I saved the company a few ten thousand dollars in bug fixing and development time by pointing out (and partly already built) solutions that basically are implementable in a few hours instead of a couple of weeks.
Perhaps you want to look at an actual sea traffic route. Close to shore you see hundrets of ships at the same time. I mean: you take your camera, make 360 degrees panorama picture, and you literraly see 100 or more ships.
Then again, ocean going ships don't just burn oil or diesel, they burn basically the stuff we use to plaster our streets with. Not sure if you call it tar. That oil is so heavy it has to be melted before you can pump it into an Diesel engine. And it cotains so much sulfur that running them in a western harbour is mostly forbidden.
Big ships now have the requirement in more and more harbours to take electric power from land, rather than peoducing their own: because pollution does stack up.
However the ship in question is most likely river or channel going.
Actually in germany we distinguish between bio gas, which comes from manure and decomposting plants and gas from landfills. Gas from landfills uou are required by law to collect, and usually it is piped intoo the natural gas grid. Bio gas plants are usuall run by farmers because they can be combined into virtual power plants and provide reserve energy, which makes good money.
Actually most of the stuff we see on /. lately claimed to be AI and are ML are in fact neuronal networks.
Skype is an MS product, so it sucks on linux by intention.
Thunderbird only sucks if you want to connect to an outlook server ...
MS Office is ok as long as it is an old version, before ribbons.
Apple's Numbers, sucks, it sucks so bad it is close to unusable, it went the same way like ribbons, stupid toolbars to set formatting instead of menus and if necessary a dialog. Same for Apple's Pages ...
Libre/Open office is in between. Still classical menus but incomprehensible supposed ways a user is interacting with the software.
For many companies the cloud is only cpu power, and connectivity. ... because I back up my private stuff myself.
There is nothing wrong in putting stuff into the cloud if you have backups of your data and can reliable shift from one cloud provider to another one, for a company.
And for a private person it is just convenient to use cloud based back up storage. I don't
I was once involved in second and third level support in a data center in a bank.
Due to a huge conctruction project, there was fears a digger would cut the power.
So they made a test, cutting off the primary power connection, to see if the secondary (and after that the emergency power) would take over.
Well, off the servers went. Turned out the secondary power was never connected, neither was the emergency power.
However they had a second data center ... which took over.
Actually it is not.
It is a pretty safe assumption that people reporting thise where sexually abused as children, most likely by close relatives: aliens.
Same ...
Instead of killing it you as well could have tried to improve it. ... ... how much would the cost have been for a shuttle that does dozens of missions? To rescue one crew?
There speaks nothing against having an improved shuttle with cost and capabilities compareable with Elons space company.
America let the shuttly die a slow death, and took into account the death of two crews
That had nothing to do with costs, but political unwill, bad management etc.
The challenger loss was completely avoidable, especially the crew. The crew lived till the cockpit hit the ground. The parachute system to rescue the cockpit was canceled/scratched because of costs. WTF
The shuttle was not expensive because it was expensive. All the stuff on ground was expensive ... the idea that a few companies get rich on it was expensive. Your stupid idea how capitalizem works in government versus company interaction was expensive.
You grossly overestimate what conductivity has to do with grid losses. ... because of distance, and radiation, not because of conductivity, otherwise the grid would be made from aluminium etc.
And you grossly overestimate how many miles of wires you can span with a mere 10,000tonnes of gold.
Grid losses are in the range of 5%-7%
The defense is easy:
o Terrorism to attack the cities and population of the owners of said system
o Assassins killing the operators, their families, the military and political figure heads
You don't really 'mine' asteroids.
Most asteroids have a pure core of iron/nickle or gold or patinum etc. You basically just cut pure blocks of the metal out of them. So you numbers of mining costs and yield are way off.
Technology as in rockets and know-how yes, technology as a ready schematic to build a rocket to lift humans to the ISS, no.
So he thinks he can anulate all 'laws' of Obama.
So he thinks no one is anulating his 'laws'.
So bright!
That burden is often left to whomever is in charge of IT. In the scenario we're discussing here, there are two older IT workers who feel they don't need to learn anything new, and can put forth minimal effort to maintain what they are comfortable with and little else.
That is actually not the scenario. They most likely learned a lot of stuff in the niche they were working (Windows) on their own time.
No where does the article imply that they where "lazy".
And then again, in our time, so many people tell you to specialize, it is typical in IT that even old foxes only know a few systems (operation systems) and don't branch out into others.
I for my part will never ever learn anything about windows ... if outlook is not working, I call IT ... from my point of view windows is a useless pile of shit, except for running it in a VM for an old game or so ...
Well,
the guys in question work in IT!
They probably never had _time_ to learn besides doing the job.
And they are likely as uncertain as the asker about: what to learn!
I'm more architect and software developer and a little bit of everything else (DevOps / ScrumMaster etc.)
I find enough stuff to learn by myself ... a new language or new framework etc.
But as an IT man ... (well I actually expect everyone to be fluent on the command line in *ix environments, because that was always the case where ever I worked, so an IT man who is not fluent in a shell sounds exceptionally strange)
Well,
of course you deserve to be modded down: offtopic
Which part of the summery did you not catch?
Probably this part?
Firing these people is nearly impossible.
Being a cynical does not really help in giving people advice if you not even grasp their question.
It is a question because the asker has no idea what courses make sense ...
IT work is not going away from Europe ...
I'm a soon 51 year old software developer (freelance).
In my team (in total 12) I'm the oldest with age average around 40.
Today I saved the company a few ten thousand dollars in bug fixing and development time by pointing out (and partly already built) solutions that basically are implementable in a few hours instead of a couple of weeks.
Perhaps you want to look at an actual sea traffic route.
Close to shore you see hundrets of ships at the same time.
I mean: you take your camera, make 360 degrees panorama picture, and you literraly see 100 or more ships.
Then again, ocean going ships don't just burn oil or diesel, they burn basically the stuff we use to plaster our streets with. Not sure if you call it tar.
That oil is so heavy it has to be melted before you can pump it into an Diesel engine.
And it cotains so much sulfur that running them in a western harbour is mostly forbidden.
Big ships now have the requirement in more and more harbours to take electric power from land, rather than peoducing their own: because pollution does stack up.
However the ship in question is most likely river or channel going.
It is easier to load and unload a cargo ship than a train with same amount of cargo.
That actually should be a no brainer.
You are just an idiot who knows nothing about the topic ... e.g. like to explain what toxic stuff is produced and deposed?
...not lik^H^H^Hdoing sports
FTFY.
"Half the planet starving" was perhaps 40 - 30 years ago ...
Welcome in the year 2017.
Actually in germany we distinguish between bio gas, which comes from manure and decomposting plants and gas from landfills.
Gas from landfills uou are required by law to collect, and usually it is piped intoo the natural gas grid.
Bio gas plants are usuall run by farmers because they can be combined into virtual power plants and provide reserve energy, which makes good money.
Are you really such an moron?
Of course it is clean energy.
Either the manur rotts on the fields or wherever and creates CH4 and CO2 or you burn it in a gas plant, and create the same amount of CO2 in the end.