Would you care to explain how several other operating systems can install and operate properly then? Maybe its just better design or Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris recognize a hardware failure and work around it it, but, as far as I'm concerned, this is a show-stopper defect in Windows XP. I really wanted to install windows (free legal license key and all from an MSDN program), but the fucker simply wouldn't install. Went over a USB hard drive, SATA, and IDE.
As far as the hardware, I'm using a Biostar mainboard, a segate hard disk (in addition to a having tried others), crucial.com ram, a retail amd64 3400+ and a retail evga geforcefx 5700 ve graphics card. Not ghetto hardware and the drivers must be perfectly terrible I'll agree, but a decent system should recover.
WinXP Pro SP2. It installed and proceeded to blue screen on boot-up and thus never worked. This is on hardware built within the last year and a half. Don't give me that Windows doesn't bluescreen bullshit. XP Home, Pro, and all of the SP-updated copies fail on my hardware.
Before you tell me its a hardware problem, Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris install and operate perfectly. This woul be last week too.
Wouldn't encrypting the data require (a) a lot more throughput and (b) a lot of unneeded processing to decrypt the data? So now our monitors have to have hardware to do on the fly decryption?
Slightly off topic, but I still don't see how the HDCP present bit can't be faked. Unless the signal is so radically different that it requires a new technology to interpret and display (and then you'd need a new display anyway) then it can be emulated for compatibility.
So this is an mechanism for extended attributes and an api to access them with a front-end already authored? So how is this better than HFS+ with spotlight? Or FreeBSD's UFS2+extended attributes + KDE patches Or ReiserFS4 + scripts? (Other than the obvious that it works on Windows.)
Have you looked at a game called Magic: the Gathering? There are an infinite number of combinations for a playable deck due to the rules that state only a minimum number of cards (though strategy dictates that certain numbers are better). Add to this fact that there are (at least) two separate decks and odds change based on in-game play (cards can adjust the deck or even pull from cards not in the game), and the game is very, very random*.
*Random in theory. In practice, in a given format, certain combinations tend to dominate due to circumstance and other reasons.
I'll admit that it does tend to lose screws as I take it apart and play with it, but my Karma has survived almost a full year of abuse from dropping to throwing to being left in below zero weather. Try as I did, I could not break it. It's battery life still kicks ass after a year of using it (14 hours on average with all of my oggs), and I've yet to see another player that can hook into my stereo as seemlessly (the dock has left and right RCA out).
I'm glad I bought my Karma and might buy another one since they'll likely become cheap. Hurray for java-based clients and ethernet connectivity.
We tried a technology program at my old high school and it failed rather miserably. Technology has its uses in certain classes, but for the majority of the high school curriculum the laptops that we used were ineffective, completely useless, or too much of a liability to be used. The program lasted four years where students were required to purchase a laptop for use at school from the school.
The major problems:
(a) cost. The laptops averaged about $2100 for the hardware and software (Windows XP Home and Microsoft Office STE). This doesn't figure in the cost of viruses, spam, etc aka the TCO.
(b) network reliability. The school network, a combination of a wired LAN and a wireless 802.11b network, had no security. You could do as you wished with only your mac address logged, and port 80 proxied. (Hint, a mac address can be forged and tools like ssh or even anonymous proxies exist.)
(c) classes. Out of the classes that I took my Senior year:
Theology English Photography Discussion & Debate African American History / Psychology Calculus Genetics Botany / Statistics
and the classes I took Junior Year:
Chem II Physics Anatomy & Physiology / Zoology Precalc English Art History / Music Appreciation Theology Spanish III
I could use a laptop, had I had one, in ten out of twenty classes. Laptops are ineffective in our high school mathematics curriculum below possibly precalc and possibly only with an advanced program like Maple/Mathematica/Matlab which I'm not entirely sure are beneficical in Calc III at my university. Laptops were ineffective in introductory spanish classes (even banned due to translators), and not powerful enough to do advanced manipulations for Photography.
For our science department, which was about 95% lab-based, laptops were a major liability and we used software and hardware that was custom-written and constructed by my teacher for Apple IIe computers. Putting a $2000 laptop in a lab where we are using HCl is a really bad idea. Destroying a (maybe) $5 Apple II isn't so bad, but a $2000 computer is another story. Laptops also do not aid in dissection (though they very well could have, if we could escape things like formaldehyde and sharp objects, at least with the correct software), nor do they aid in basic measurement.
The classes where laptops were useful were Statistics, English-based language courses (not including Debate, where laptops would be a hinderance in addition to not being allowed) and social science courses.
(d) software (related to classes). Most classes did not have special software available to distribute to students. Licensing fees were large and the faculty was not always trained in the most up to date, computer-based solutions. For example, there are several statistics packages for PCs, including use of Excel, but to my knowledge, these capabilities were not used.
(e) downtime. Hardware failure or software failure (viruses, worms, buggy software) could cause a student to be disconnected from classes that use laptops for weeks at a time while repairs are made.
A laptop program may work somewhere else, but I have not seen it happen, or be close to working at my high school. I hope it was just a bad example.
So let me get this right. The Japanese build a supersonic jet for passenger flight. They have the design, build a prototype and decide to test it....over Australia? It sounds like somebody picked the short stick.
thx, for teh graamar lesson. next. time i'll try my harrdestest to live up to your standard, mr AC.
Seriously though, most people don't mistake Slashdot for scholarly discussion, properly edited and even proofread. The fact that you understand what I was trying to (drunkenly) say points out that an understanding is what's important.
That said, school's is possessive. As in something belonging to my school (s.f. so you don't have to). Same with presenter (s.f.). Your rule applies to it. It's (it is) an exception to the rule. I'll forgive you, Mr. Anonymous Grammar Nazi, but only because I make mistakes to (with one o just for you).
Really, if you don't shape up, you'll be forced to turn in your geek card and correct sentence structure in your mother tongue, which I pray isn't English.
You know, I was a great example like you mention here. I was banned from my school's network my sophomore year of high school. Any guesses as to what criminal behavior I commited? I laughed at a presenter's use of the word "hacking". When questioned I told her that was cracking and not hacking (drank too much of ESR' kool-aid at 14). That means I am a 1337 h4X0r and will pWn them if I am allowed to be near a computer.
Do you know what I learned from the situation? A couple well-placed words can get you more useful tools than all of the coding skill in the world. Throughout high school, I was feared and left alone. That let me focus on more important things, like baseball, getting high, and playing with unix systems without fear that someone would care because I was already a lost cause.
Because of people like you, I have an excellent job, am at a great school, and have a lot of great friends that I probably wouldn't have otherwise had because I WAS a good kid until I was sent to the fringe. I'd just like too say thanks for your line of thinking, you're making smart kids your enemies and opening doors that we didn't know existed previously. I'll drink to your type!
I write code for microcontrollers for a living. I can think of a lot of things that may be wrong here, but as I don't have the source I can't fix them. That's why this machine was previously a BSD and Linux machine. I only wanted to use windows for Battlefield: 2.
How about this, AC. If you can't code for 8bit RISC in machine code then you suck as a techie. 50 numbers in hex, that's all. Control current at the lowest level and move some stuff. How about writing a CAN driver? I'm a techie, and I can do it, can you? That's how ridiculous your argument is.
I think it's pretty damn difficult. As a coder and techie, I cannot figure out how to install Windows XP on my only computer capable of running it. Windows just blue-screens while trying to format the hard drive. I assume it needs drivers for my SATA chipset, since my computer is newer than XP SP2, but my PC doesn't have a floppy drive, space for a floppy drive, or a power cable for a floppy drive. I'm tempted to read up on what kind of power a floppy takes and wire a floppy drive up to an external power source and connect it to the fdc (mobo supports the floppy, power supply doesn't). Oh, and Windows will not treat my usb floppy drive as an A: drive during the install, which is the only place where it will accept drivers from.
lmao. I really don't like Windows, but it makes a great gaming platform. Win2k3 is even pretty fast compared to my FreeBSD install for day to day use (which is amazing since my FreeBSD workflow is heavily customized). That said, my fully legit license was free due to the MSDN Academic Alliance program that I participate in through my university. I have my license for 2003, XP, XP SP1, XP SP2, Visio, Visual Studio, etc.
Just because someone has a copy of Windows Server and isn't a huge corp doesn't mean they stole it. Lots of people do, but its really not worth stealing IMO anyway.
OpenBSD is affected, and was patched on the 6th of June FreeBSD is affected, and was patched on the 6th of June NetBSD base system is not affected, but a zlib from pkgsrc is, and was patched on the 8th of June
I'm perfectly happy changing jobs to feed the family that I don't have. When I have a family, I don't mind labor if it comes to that, and I happen to speak several languages. I'm not worried because I have options. Perhaps you should do some studying and open some options up for yourself.
Nobody wins in the globalization game. There might be a temprorary winner, or a temporary loser, but all countries will bounce between winner and loser due to the way capitalism works. India and China may win for 30 or 40 years, but they'll lose for another couple hundred afterwards.
Also, I'd like to see China, or anyone for that matter, collect from us.
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Would you care to explain how several other operating systems can install and operate properly then? Maybe its just better design or Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris recognize a hardware failure and work around it it, but, as far as I'm concerned, this is a show-stopper defect in Windows XP. I really wanted to install windows (free legal license key and all from an MSDN program), but the fucker simply wouldn't install. Went over a USB hard drive, SATA, and IDE.
As far as the hardware, I'm using a Biostar mainboard, a segate hard disk (in addition to a having tried others), crucial.com ram, a retail amd64 3400+ and a retail evga geforcefx 5700 ve graphics card. Not ghetto hardware and the drivers must be perfectly terrible I'll agree, but a decent system should recover.
WinXP Pro SP2. It installed and proceeded to blue screen on boot-up and thus never worked. This is on hardware built within the last year and a half. Don't give me that Windows doesn't bluescreen bullshit. XP Home, Pro, and all of the SP-updated copies fail on my hardware.
Before you tell me its a hardware problem, Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris install and operate perfectly. This woul be last week too.
Like, totally, awesomafide! I'll take three, but only if I can get a quiet gene. I hate how babies are always, like, crying and such.
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You know, there was a crazy american towards the end of the 18th century that seems to have been quoted about this...
Then again, his countrymen don't seem to take him seriously, so why should anyone else?
Wouldn't encrypting the data require (a) a lot more throughput and (b) a lot of unneeded processing to decrypt the data? So now our monitors have to have hardware to do on the fly decryption?
Slightly off topic, but I still don't see how the HDCP present bit can't be faked. Unless the signal is so radically different that it requires a new technology to interpret and display (and then you'd need a new display anyway) then it can be emulated for compatibility.
Maybe I don't understand, but if this isn't libel then isn't it covered under the 1st amendment's free speech clause?
So this is an mechanism for extended attributes and an api to access them with a front-end already authored? So how is this better than HFS+ with spotlight? Or FreeBSD's UFS2+extended attributes + KDE patches Or ReiserFS4 + scripts? (Other than the obvious that it works on Windows.)
Have you looked at a game called Magic: the Gathering? There are an infinite number of combinations for a playable deck due to the rules that state only a minimum number of cards (though strategy dictates that certain numbers are better). Add to this fact that there are (at least) two separate decks and odds change based on in-game play (cards can adjust the deck or even pull from cards not in the game), and the game is very, very random*.
*Random in theory. In practice, in a given format, certain combinations tend to dominate due to circumstance and other reasons.
I'll admit that it does tend to lose screws as I take it apart and play with it, but my Karma has survived almost a full year of abuse from dropping to throwing to being left in below zero weather. Try as I did, I could not break it. It's battery life still kicks ass after a year of using it (14 hours on average with all of my oggs), and I've yet to see another player that can hook into my stereo as seemlessly (the dock has left and right RCA out).
I'm glad I bought my Karma and might buy another one since they'll likely become cheap. Hurray for java-based clients and ethernet connectivity.
We tried a technology program at my old high school and it failed rather miserably. Technology has its uses in certain classes, but for the majority of the high school curriculum the laptops that we used were ineffective, completely useless, or too much of a liability to be used. The program lasted four years where students were required to purchase a laptop for use at school from the school.
The major problems:
(a) cost. The laptops averaged about $2100 for the hardware and software (Windows XP Home and Microsoft Office STE). This doesn't figure in the cost of viruses, spam, etc aka the TCO.
(b) network reliability. The school network, a combination of a wired LAN and a wireless 802.11b network, had no security. You could do as you wished with only your mac address logged, and port 80 proxied. (Hint, a mac address can be forged and tools like ssh or even anonymous proxies exist.)
(c) classes. Out of the classes that I took my Senior year:
Theology
English
Photography
Discussion & Debate
African American History / Psychology
Calculus
Genetics
Botany / Statistics
and the classes I took Junior Year:
Chem II
Physics
Anatomy & Physiology / Zoology
Precalc
English
Art History / Music Appreciation
Theology
Spanish III
I could use a laptop, had I had one, in ten out of twenty classes. Laptops are ineffective in our high school mathematics curriculum below possibly precalc and possibly only with an advanced program like Maple/Mathematica/Matlab which I'm not entirely sure are beneficical in Calc III at my university. Laptops were ineffective in introductory spanish classes (even banned due to translators), and not powerful enough to do advanced manipulations for Photography.
For our science department, which was about 95% lab-based, laptops were a major liability and we used software and hardware that was custom-written and constructed by my teacher for Apple IIe computers. Putting a $2000 laptop in a lab where we are using HCl is a really bad idea. Destroying a (maybe) $5 Apple II isn't so bad, but a $2000 computer is another story. Laptops also do not aid in dissection (though they very well could have, if we could escape things like formaldehyde and sharp objects, at least with the correct software), nor do they aid in basic measurement.
The classes where laptops were useful were Statistics, English-based language courses (not including Debate, where laptops would be a hinderance in addition to not being allowed) and social science courses.
(d) software (related to classes). Most classes did not have special software available to distribute to students. Licensing fees were large and the faculty was not always trained in the most up to date, computer-based solutions. For example, there are several statistics packages for PCs, including use of Excel, but to my knowledge, these capabilities were not used.
(e) downtime. Hardware failure or software failure (viruses, worms, buggy software) could cause a student to be disconnected from classes that use laptops for weeks at a time while repairs are made.
A laptop program may work somewhere else, but I have not seen it happen, or be close to working at my high school. I hope it was just a bad example.
So let me get this right. The Japanese build a supersonic jet for passenger flight. They have the design, build a prototype and decide to test it....over Australia? It sounds like somebody picked the short stick.
thx, for teh graamar lesson. next. time i'll try my harrdestest to live up to your standard, mr AC.
Seriously though, most people don't mistake Slashdot for scholarly discussion, properly edited and even proofread. The fact that you understand what I was trying to (drunkenly) say points out that an understanding is what's important.
That said, school's is possessive. As in something belonging to my school (s.f. so you don't have to). Same with presenter (s.f.). Your rule applies to it. It's (it is) an exception to the rule. I'll forgive you, Mr. Anonymous Grammar Nazi, but only because I make mistakes to (with one o just for you).
Really, if you don't shape up, you'll be forced to turn in your geek card and correct sentence structure in your mother tongue, which I pray isn't English.
You know, I was a great example like you mention here. I was banned from my school's network my sophomore year of high school. Any guesses as to what criminal behavior I commited? I laughed at a presenter's use of the word "hacking". When questioned I told her that was cracking and not hacking (drank too much of ESR' kool-aid at 14). That means I am a 1337 h4X0r and will pWn them if I am allowed to be near a computer.
Do you know what I learned from the situation? A couple well-placed words can get you more useful tools than all of the coding skill in the world. Throughout high school, I was feared and left alone. That let me focus on more important things, like baseball, getting high, and playing with unix systems without fear that someone would care because I was already a lost cause.
Because of people like you, I have an excellent job, am at a great school, and have a lot of great friends that I probably wouldn't have otherwise had because I WAS a good kid until I was sent to the fringe. I'd just like too say thanks for your line of thinking, you're making smart kids your enemies and opening doors that we didn't know existed previously. I'll drink to your type!
ahem, *cough*, encryption, *cough*
This is why on systems that demand physical security in an insecure location we use loopback encryption. Welcome to 1999!
If I had a vehicle that could top mach (by many, many times) there would be no way I would stop for any cop.
I'd just like to say wtf? Now I'll go back to being a 420 Geek /lbc rules
my powermac g5 plays it fine. same 6800 I believe.
I write code for microcontrollers for a living. I can think of a lot of things that may be wrong here, but as I don't have the source I can't fix them. That's why this machine was previously a BSD and Linux machine. I only wanted to use windows for Battlefield: 2.
How about this, AC. If you can't code for 8bit RISC in machine code then you suck as a techie. 50 numbers in hex, that's all. Control current at the lowest level and move some stuff. How about writing a CAN driver? I'm a techie, and I can do it, can you? That's how ridiculous your argument is.
I think it's pretty damn difficult. As a coder and techie, I cannot figure out how to install Windows XP on my only computer capable of running it. Windows just blue-screens while trying to format the hard drive. I assume it needs drivers for my SATA chipset, since my computer is newer than XP SP2, but my PC doesn't have a floppy drive, space for a floppy drive, or a power cable for a floppy drive. I'm tempted to read up on what kind of power a floppy takes and wire a floppy drive up to an external power source and connect it to the fdc (mobo supports the floppy, power supply doesn't). Oh, and Windows will not treat my usb floppy drive as an A: drive during the install, which is the only place where it will accept drivers from.
lmao. I really don't like Windows, but it makes a great gaming platform. Win2k3 is even pretty fast compared to my FreeBSD install for day to day use (which is amazing since my FreeBSD workflow is heavily customized). That said, my fully legit license was free due to the MSDN Academic Alliance program that I participate in through my university. I have my license for 2003, XP, XP SP1, XP SP2, Visio, Visual Studio, etc.
Just because someone has a copy of Windows Server and isn't a huge corp doesn't mean they stole it. Lots of people do, but its really not worth stealing IMO anyway.
You're right, I did. I'm still in June. Time is an illusion. My management of it doubly so.
For the undead crowd out there:
OpenBSD is affected, and was patched on the 6th of June
FreeBSD is affected, and was patched on the 6th of June
NetBSD base system is not affected, but a zlib from pkgsrc is, and was patched on the 8th of June
I'm perfectly happy changing jobs to feed the family that I don't have. When I have a family, I don't mind labor if it comes to that, and I happen to speak several languages. I'm not worried because I have options. Perhaps you should do some studying and open some options up for yourself.
Nobody wins in the globalization game. There might be a temprorary winner, or a temporary loser, but all countries will bounce between winner and loser due to the way capitalism works. India and China may win for 30 or 40 years, but they'll lose for another couple hundred afterwards.
Also, I'd like to see China, or anyone for that matter, collect from us.