People, please note that the investigation by the police will be focusing on the Telecommunications Interception Act which governs the interception (inadvertant or otherwise) of anything that is traversing over the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The ATN is any medium and communications device that is directly connected to any Australian infrastructure. This includes all your home routers, all telephones and any other communications medium.
Compare this with the Privacy Act, (which may also apply) it is radically different. The privacy act doesn't really apply here.
Have you ever wondered why all call centres tell you they may record your call for training purposes? That's to get around the TIA act. Otherwise they would be breaching a very significant law.
It is also illegal in Australia to run a spam/malware filter without notifing and having the user agree to a machine intercepting your email. If you don't agree to this, your company or sysadmin is breaking the TIA act and is liable to be sent to jail. (@AussieSysadmins Pro tip: Make sure you have your arse covered.)
Please note that this isn't a money grabbing exercise by the government, it will only cost them money to investigate, prosecute and detain anyone. They will not be sueing Google for money. That's not how the law in Australia works.
Also note that it is not the same as overhearing someone in the street. The privacy act governs that and only applies if the person being overheard has a reasonable expectation of privacy while they were being overheard.
You can connect to any open wifi access point you want, it's when you capture or sniff any of the packets that you start breaching the TIA act and are liable for jail time.
If you read the actual law, you would realise that the overhearing something in the street is NOT the same as intercepting something that is on the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The only way that would be illegal is if the people had a reasonable expectation of privacy under the Privacy Act.
The TIA act only applies to the ATN.
Please research before making unsubstantiated claims.
You are sending your IP address to a tracker, which then sends the information to the copyright enforcers. Once it arrives on the **AA pc's, it's no longer on the Australian Telecommunications network, and therefore no longer covered by the Telecommunications Interception Act.
The law they allegedly broke, has nothing to do with RF or open networks. It has everything to do with the Telecommunications Interception Act.
It's a very specific law which they broke.
Ever wonder why every single call centre you call gives you a warning you may be recorded for training purposes? The real reason is if they don't say you may be recorded, they would be breaking the same law that Google broke. It's got nothing to do with networks and everything to do with the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The problem is the TIA act in Australia forbids unauthorised interception of *any* medium that forms part of the Australian Telecommunications Network, which your home network does in fact form part of.
This is a massive deal under Australian law. There is a specific law that specifically prohibits what Google did. So, yes, recording even a single packet is a massive deal under this law.
Professionalism is overrated. Money isn't everything and that's all professionalism is about, getting more money either for you in a promotion or for the company.
Just be grateful you have a cool space invaders game to play.
Easter Eggs are definitely a good thing, it will lighten the operators day. While they shouldn't come before critical errors in the functionality there is nothing wrong with giving the code monkeys a little wiggle room for creativity. If they aren't able to be creative you'll ultimately end up with a worse product.
If which wasn't on your PATH, then you wouldn't be able to execute which without an absolute path. Meaning your shell would return command not found, not the output of which.
In Australia a job is classed as a profession when a professional society exists to govern it. To become a professional you must become a member of said society which have entry requirements such as at least a degree in the discipline and relevant experience.
Professional societies have a code of ethics and possibly a code of conduct/practice.
This is why there is only a limited number of professions in Australia compared to the millions of types of jobs. IT is one of the professions.
But the real reason has been highlighted above. It's far too easy to get a degree these days. I know people who have received their IT degrees without knowing how to program!
And if you look at it from the employers side, IT knowledge is something that is more easily testable than other professions. If you can weed out the people without qualifications and the clueless people with qualifications with one simple test, then why wouldn't you?
It's not like the tests are hard...
Well there is an NDS emulator on the PSP. The first ever system to emulate a same generation console. A next gen system being emulated may not be that out of reach...
Now they are deciding to "save" by having untrained (literally) people in house doing extensions and modifications when they can. Of course, due to perpetual crisis mode and budget restraints, that will turn out to be the norm and it will seem like the smart thing to do. "$5K for you to do that little change or Andy does it for almost nothing? We'll let Andy do it." will become the pattern and it will seem to work for a while. Then one day years from now they will find they are screwed. But despite their own prior experience there is no way to convince them of that here and now, and young Andy once had a programming course so he knows he can do it. Sigh....
*Sigh* I wish that were true. I have spent the last 3 months fixing a complete pile of crap created by an "old hand" contractor. I currently work in a support section, so I know what needs to be done to make a product supportable. I'm not in favour of the latest programming fad, they really annoy me.
Sometimes, spending three months of my salary (~50k) is just plain smarter than paying more than $350k for a older more "experienced" contractor who uses sleep(1) functions to I QUOTE "//Ensure file has been written to disk".
I'm sorry, but the kids Google are cherry picking aren't your stupid college code monkeys, they're kids who know their shit.
Yes if you're not Google... You're forgetting that the kids that Google are hiring have probably been coding for the last 50% of their life. They already know about Software Life Cycles, Efficiency, Support and Maintenance.
More likely than not they finished making their toy programs and crappy little 2d games made in BASIC and have moved on to coding for the open source community and have excelled. Most of them will already be experienced with this kind of thing.
It's not the kids who did IT/compsci at uni because they thought they should do something with their lives that Google target and hire. It's the ones that have been coding for the last 10 years as an amateur have an true love for it.
Then they grow old and move to a contracting company and earn their retirement nestegg. Get over it you dirty old contractor, we're not after your job. Just yet...
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People, please note that the investigation by the police will be focusing on the Telecommunications Interception Act which governs the interception (inadvertant or otherwise) of anything that is traversing over the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The ATN is any medium and communications device that is directly connected to any Australian infrastructure. This includes all your home routers, all telephones and any other communications medium.
Compare this with the Privacy Act, (which may also apply) it is radically different. The privacy act doesn't really apply here.
Have you ever wondered why all call centres tell you they may record your call for training purposes? That's to get around the TIA act. Otherwise they would be breaching a very significant law.
It is also illegal in Australia to run a spam/malware filter without notifing and having the user agree to a machine intercepting your email. If you don't agree to this, your company or sysadmin is breaking the TIA act and is liable to be sent to jail. (@AussieSysadmins Pro tip: Make sure you have your arse covered.)
Please note that this isn't a money grabbing exercise by the government, it will only cost them money to investigate, prosecute and detain anyone. They will not be sueing Google for money. That's not how the law in Australia works.
Also note that it is not the same as overhearing someone in the street. The privacy act governs that and only applies if the person being overheard has a reasonable expectation of privacy while they were being overheard.
You can connect to any open wifi access point you want, it's when you capture or sniff any of the packets that you start breaching the TIA act and are liable for jail time.
I hope this clears things up for some people.
If you are interested, please have a flick through the TIA act here:
http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/Telecommunicationsinterceptionandsurveillance_Overviewoflegislation
It's completely different to taping someone in a public place!!
That's the Privacy Act.
The law that Google has breached is the Telecommunications Interception Act. Completely different law concerning completely different matters.
You can connect to someone else's WIFI access point all you like, but once you capture or sniff any of that traffic you are breaching the TIA act.
If you read the actual law, you would realise that the overhearing something in the street is NOT the same as intercepting something that is on the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The only way that would be illegal is if the people had a reasonable expectation of privacy under the Privacy Act.
The TIA act only applies to the ATN.
Please research before making unsubstantiated claims.
The TIA would not protect against this.
You are sending your IP address to a tracker, which then sends the information to the copyright enforcers. Once it arrives on the **AA pc's, it's no longer on the Australian Telecommunications network, and therefore no longer covered by the Telecommunications Interception Act.
It may be publically available, but it's very specifically prohibited under the Australian Telecommunications Interception Act.
If the AFP choose to, they would be prosecuted under criminal law, they wont be sued.
People can go to jail for this. The government will not be making any sort of money out of this. Only upholding the law.
The law they allegedly broke, has nothing to do with RF or open networks. It has everything to do with the Telecommunications Interception Act.
It's a very specific law which they broke.
Ever wonder why every single call centre you call gives you a warning you may be recorded for training purposes? The real reason is if they don't say you may be recorded, they would be breaking the same law that Google broke. It's got nothing to do with networks and everything to do with the Australian Telecommunications Network.
The problem is the TIA act in Australia forbids unauthorised interception of *any* medium that forms part of the Australian Telecommunications Network, which your home network does in fact form part of.
This is a massive deal under Australian law. There is a specific law that specifically prohibits what Google did. So, yes, recording even a single packet is a massive deal under this law.
It is immature and reeks of disorganization.
What a strange thing to say about a group that originated on 4chan.
I think you mean originated on eBaum's World...
rpm2cpio blah.rpm | cpio -vid
cpio is an archive format. cpio -vid will extract this archive to the current directory.
Suddenly you have the contents of the entire rpm in your home dir. Hooray!
What about Flikr's freedom of speech?
Fear my one time pad!
This is a really really bad place to ask how to spend $500000000....
lol, that's the first time I've heard the iphone's massive price tag spun as a plus!
I'm glad it costs so much! I can get a bigger tax refund this way!
I feel a plaintext attack would be quite effective here...
Because it does. Professionalism is all about personal gain, either for yourself or the entity you are working for.
Name something that is fun and professional...
Professionalism is overrated. Money isn't everything and that's all professionalism is about, getting more money either for you in a promotion or for the company.
Just be grateful you have a cool space invaders game to play.
Easter Eggs are definitely a good thing, it will lighten the operators day. While they shouldn't come before critical errors in the functionality there is nothing wrong with giving the code monkeys a little wiggle room for creativity. If they aren't able to be creative you'll ultimately end up with a worse product.
Don't clock out for lunch/tea break, presto time saved! :D
If which wasn't on your PATH, then you wouldn't be able to execute which without an absolute path. Meaning your shell would return command not found, not the output of which.
In Australia a job is classed as a profession when a professional society exists to govern it. To become a professional you must become a member of said society which have entry requirements such as at least a degree in the discipline and relevant experience. Professional societies have a code of ethics and possibly a code of conduct/practice. This is why there is only a limited number of professions in Australia compared to the millions of types of jobs. IT is one of the professions. But the real reason has been highlighted above. It's far too easy to get a degree these days. I know people who have received their IT degrees without knowing how to program! And if you look at it from the employers side, IT knowledge is something that is more easily testable than other professions. If you can weed out the people without qualifications and the clueless people with qualifications with one simple test, then why wouldn't you? It's not like the tests are hard...
I know how to stop stalkerbot 5000!
Where can I get a doormat that says:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /
Maybe if they stopped carrying out Humint operations and CNE operations we would be more open to a higher level of friendship.
Well there is an NDS emulator on the PSP. The first ever system to emulate a same generation console. A next gen system being emulated may not be that out of reach...
Now they are deciding to "save" by having untrained (literally) people in house doing extensions and modifications when they can. Of course, due to perpetual crisis mode and budget restraints, that will turn out to be the norm and it will seem like the smart thing to do. "$5K for you to do that little change or Andy does it for almost nothing? We'll let Andy do it." will become the pattern and it will seem to work for a while. Then one day years from now they will find they are screwed. But despite their own prior experience there is no way to convince them of that here and now, and young Andy once had a programming course so he knows he can do it. Sigh....
*Sigh* I wish that were true. I have spent the last 3 months fixing a complete pile of crap created by an "old hand" contractor. I currently work in a support section, so I know what needs to be done to make a product supportable. I'm not in favour of the latest programming fad, they really annoy me.
Sometimes, spending three months of my salary (~50k) is just plain smarter than paying more than $350k for a older more "experienced" contractor who uses sleep(1) functions to I QUOTE "//Ensure file has been written to disk".
I'm sorry, but the kids Google are cherry picking aren't your stupid college code monkeys, they're kids who know their shit.
Yes if you're not Google... You're forgetting that the kids that Google are hiring have probably been coding for the last 50% of their life. They already know about Software Life Cycles, Efficiency, Support and Maintenance.
More likely than not they finished making their toy programs and crappy little 2d games made in BASIC and have moved on to coding for the open source community and have excelled. Most of them will already be experienced with this kind of thing.
It's not the kids who did IT/compsci at uni because they thought they should do something with their lives that Google target and hire. It's the ones that have been coding for the last 10 years as an amateur have an true love for it.
Then they grow old and move to a contracting company and earn their retirement nestegg. Get over it you dirty old contractor, we're not after your job. Just yet...
The Australian Senate is a house of review only. It's the lower house or the House of Representatives that generates all the ideas.
As far as I can tell this party is only running for the senate.
I'd much rather vote myself, than have my representative toe the party line.