Sun didn't help. For years they complained that Microsoft was implementing Java without proper licensing, and wiping the courtroom floor with MS. Then MS raised their middle finger at Sun and told them where to go today, and removed Java completely. Then Sun let them use the broken client from several years ago in IE5.5 SP2 and IE6.0 as some silly settlement. Now, Sun is whining that MS isn't using their newest client. Yes, I'm sure MS tried to re-invent Java (J++ or whatever they call it now), but remember the facts, Sun was a huge help is screwing themselves over.
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and the fourth did for a long time until they became illegal
I'm still not convinced that these guys are coming down on open source players, but here's some concrete items worth mentioning:
If you use a COMMERCIAL MP3 decoder, you're OK. Nullsoft, Apple, Microsoft, Real, Musicmatch, and probably any other manufacturer ou can think of has a license. It's all listed here.
Whether or not the freebies will be forced into licensing is another question. Yes, the clause has been removed from their page that freebie players don't adhere.
Is Ogg completely open? Is there ANYONE who can claim a patent on it 10 years from now (see JPEG)? If not, what are we waiting for?? Ogg rules!
Ok. Most people have figured out by now that these prices have been up for a long time. Is there A) any evidence that open source decoders (like mpg123) are being bullied around, and B) any official statement from Redhat that they're intentionally pulling MP3 decoders from Rawhide?
That's gotta be a close second. At least in terms of CPU/RAM/disk. In terms of video cards, when a 32 MB AGP card can be had for $40, who besides a gamer needs anything higher? Even the CAD geeks get along quite well at 32MB.
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I was just looking at www.wall.org and the site for your church, of which you are the webmaster. Neither of these sites use any perl whatsoever. Coming from you, I would have expected to see a super cool Perl based calendar and lots of other neat dynamic stuff. What's your reasoning for using no perl on either of these sites?
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Why is it that a company can use such a poor security model and people will still think they should make up for it buy buying all sorts of band-aids to the real problem of a late implementation of a security model by Microsoft?
Because Microsoft owns the computer industry. It sucks. Their software is worthless. What's an admin supposed to do? Go deploying linux boxes at every workstation? Sure, I'd love that. There's a few UNIX geeks in various departments who would love that too. For the people who have no business using a computer, having e-mail, or getting on the internet, it'd take us years to train them in on linux. Then all we'd hear is "why can't I install this dancing puppy thingy that my stupid ass aunt sent me?"
The fact is, to deploy linux and force users into it goes against everything that an IT department stands for. We have to cater to the greater audience. If 90% of our users refuse to use anything other than Windows, we're screwed. Wed can hold daily meetings about what Microsoft has done NOW, why they're eveil, why their software is bad for us, they still won't get it.
When it comes to anti-virus, firewall, and ad blocking, open source is a great option. Squid, MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin, junkbuster, it's all good. Better yet, it's all free. An IT department can put up an open source blockade at the door, the users don't know the difference, and we're much happier.
So, to sum it up, we know MS sucks. I hate their software with a passion. SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. I run linux at work and at home. We run linux products at the T1 entry point here at work. We have to run Windows on most desktops because THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM ARE MORONS AND DON'T CARE ABOUT SECURITY.
I just love the idea that a browser needs administration
ANYTHING written my Microsoft needs administration (or babysitting, in this case). Our IT department collectively gives Microsoft the finger and tells them where to go today when it comes to IE. It's crap.
As I eluded to in another post in this thread, the ignorance at higher levels of government slap us into a position of having no choice. Therefore, we spent time working on a system of deploying patches (btw, Novell's ZENworks absolutely rocks) and also make it a priority to do as much as we can at the firewall to keep those nasty IE exploits out. The act of responsibly deploying IE, patching, and firewalling could keep a person employed full time. Therefore, I refer to those who deal with this crap on a daily basis as "IE administrators".
Here's our dillema. We've got all these proprietary web based systems that were written specifically for IE. Opera, Mozilla, Netscape, they all give us weird errors. We're government, when an agency says "this is how it is", our hands our tied. I've written some colorful letters to the people who design these, the response is usually "but everyone uses IE".
So, we're forced into using IE for everything. 500 IE users == a lot of security problems. Stay on top of patches and find ways of rapidly deploying them. Use a good proxy server to filter out stuff (like the gopher vulnerability) and hope for the best. So, from that I label myself as an IE admin, since the dumb thing needs so much babysitting.
"OH MY GOSH!!!! MICROSOFT HAS ANOTHER VULNERABILITY!!! THAT'S NEWS!!!"
Just for kicks, I signed up for Microsoft security bulletins. I get hoards of e-mail every week, as new vulnerabilites are continually found in each of their products. Being an IE administrator it's important to subscribe to this stuff.
New IE patches come out about every 2 months. This patch is not all that big of a deal. All the fixed issues had workarounds, and a lot of it could be prevented by using a good proxy server.
The fact that Slashdot immediately jumps all over Microsoft for this is ludicrous. Get a life.
You'd think they'd get the hint after Microsoft unsuccesifully sued Lindows, claiming that they owned anything ending in "indows". If M$ can't do it, how is another company going to?
when did Sun buy Cobalt? I knew that Gateway bought them, then they were sold to someone else, and now Sun owns them?
This makes sense in a marketing move. Sun's biggest fear about linux is that folks can replace their Sparc Solaris boxen with x86 linux boxen. By marketing an x86 box (a sexy x86 box, I should add...) they can keep their hardware niche and use free software.
Now, the question that I didn't see answered was whether or not x86 Solaris 9 will be free. Solaris 8 was, and I like playing with other (even though sometimes crappy) OSs.
I'm pretty sure they're referring to the return of Solaris to the x86. Solaris 8 was available, then they cut off Solaris 9 and announced it was for SPARC only.
Yes, this just goes to show how messed up the english language is. At some point in time, it became acceptible to unthaw our frozen dinners. For more examples of how messed up we really are, take a look at this forward I received not long ago (source unknown):
The bandage was wound around the wound. The farm was used to produce produce. The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse. He could lead if he would get the lead out. The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. Since there is no time like the present, he decided it was time to present the present. A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum. When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes. I did not object to the object. The insurance was invalid for the invalid. There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row. They were too close to the door to close it. The buck does funny things when the does are present. To help with the planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow. The wind was too strong to wind the sail. After a number of injections, my jaw got number. Upon seeing a tear in the painting, I shed a tear. I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
quicksand can work slowly boxing rings are square a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. In what language do people recite at a play, and play at a recital? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, yet a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? Yes, in American English, your house can burn up as it burns down, you fill out a form by filling it in, and an alarm goes off by going on. That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible; when the lights are out, they are invisible. And, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it.
It was decided administratively to take the server down before the RIAA's axe started coming at us. If RIAA had attempted to take us to court, we'd be off the air. I never inquired to the actual amount, I'm part time (they can't afford to keep me on full time, even though they want to). They haven't told me the down and dirty details, but as I understand it, it would have more than DOUBLED the cost of running our station to pay the RIAA fees.
Do you get a real response or is it canned? I like the drop down box for the subject line. Let me guess, if I select "piracy" as the subject and ask them about ice cream, I get a 3 page form letter about how their artists are starving because people like me download too much music?
I work for a small radio station here in the US. We had a few listeners in Germany that liked us. They'd e-mail us all the time and request stuff, it was pretty cool.
Then the mighty hand of the RIAA took away our webcasting. We couldn't afford their rediculous fees and the audio server is now someone's workstation.
Here's what I don't get. By playing the music we play, we encourage those listeners to go out and buy CDs. Apparently the RIAA doesn't understand that. Somehow, allowing people to hear a SAMPLE of music the RIAA produces, encouraging people to buy a full album, is considered piracy to them. Do they realize how much of their sales are based off of listeners who heard it on the radio first? Eventually the RIAA will probably sue radio stations out of existence for this "piracy" that they've only tolerated thus far.
I particularly liked This post yesterday. Substitute in your favorite *AA. I think this is the future of RIAA owned music as well.
With the recent scuffle over JPEG licensing, the issue has come up about patents that were not actively enforced until they became industry standards. If I create a new widget design, let it be copied until all homes on the continent have my widget, then decide to enforce my patent and take the 300,000 or so manufacturers to court, do I have a right to enforce my patent or does it get dismissed?
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Sun didn't help. For years they complained that Microsoft was implementing Java without proper licensing, and wiping the courtroom floor with MS. Then MS raised their middle finger at Sun and told them where to go today, and removed Java completely. Then Sun let them use the broken client from several years ago in IE5.5 SP2 and IE6.0 as some silly settlement. Now, Sun is whining that MS isn't using their newest client. Yes, I'm sure MS tried to re-invent Java (J++ or whatever they call it now), but remember the facts, Sun was a huge help is screwing themselves over.
and the fourth did for a long time until they became illegal
Coffee vending machines are illegal?
I'm still not convinced that these guys are coming down on open source players, but here's some concrete items worth mentioning:
If you use a COMMERCIAL MP3 decoder, you're OK. Nullsoft, Apple, Microsoft, Real, Musicmatch, and probably any other manufacturer ou can think of has a license. It's all listed here.
Whether or not the freebies will be forced into licensing is another question. Yes, the clause has been removed from their page that freebie players don't adhere.
Is Ogg completely open? Is there ANYONE who can claim a patent on it 10 years from now (see JPEG)? If not, what are we waiting for?? Ogg rules!
Oggasm does exactly what you want, with far more robustness than a shell script.
Ok. Most people have figured out by now that these prices have been up for a long time. Is there A) any evidence that open source decoders (like mpg123) are being bullied around, and B) any official statement from Redhat that they're intentionally pulling MP3 decoders from Rawhide?
For example, giving preferential positioning to icons for their own applications in RedHat 27.2
More proof that they're Microsoft. Just after I got 7.3 downloaded, 27.2 is available. Sheesh.
That's gotta be a close second. At least in terms of CPU/RAM/disk. In terms of video cards, when a 32 MB AGP card can be had for $40, who besides a gamer needs anything higher? Even the CAD geeks get along quite well at 32MB.
I was just looking at www.wall.org and the site for your church, of which you are the webmaster. Neither of these sites use any perl whatsoever. Coming from you, I would have expected to see a super cool Perl based calendar and lots of other neat dynamic stuff. What's your reasoning for using no perl on either of these sites?
42.
You missed one.
Larry-
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My name is Brian Wall and I live in Minnesota. Any chance we're related?
Why is it that a company can use such a poor security model and people will still think they should make up for it buy buying all sorts of band-aids to the real problem of a late implementation of a security model by Microsoft?
Because Microsoft owns the computer industry. It sucks. Their software is worthless. What's an admin supposed to do? Go deploying linux boxes at every workstation? Sure, I'd love that. There's a few UNIX geeks in various departments who would love that too. For the people who have no business using a computer, having e-mail, or getting on the internet, it'd take us years to train them in on linux. Then all we'd hear is "why can't I install this dancing puppy thingy that my stupid ass aunt sent me?"
The fact is, to deploy linux and force users into it goes against everything that an IT department stands for. We have to cater to the greater audience. If 90% of our users refuse to use anything other than Windows, we're screwed. Wed can hold daily meetings about what Microsoft has done NOW, why they're eveil, why their software is bad for us, they still won't get it.
When it comes to anti-virus, firewall, and ad blocking, open source is a great option. Squid, MIMEDefang, SpamAssassin, junkbuster, it's all good. Better yet, it's all free. An IT department can put up an open source blockade at the door, the users don't know the difference, and we're much happier.
So, to sum it up, we know MS sucks. I hate their software with a passion. SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. I run linux at work and at home. We run linux products at the T1 entry point here at work. We have to run Windows on most desktops because THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM ARE MORONS AND DON'T CARE ABOUT SECURITY.
I just love the idea that a browser needs administration
ANYTHING written my Microsoft needs administration (or babysitting, in this case). Our IT department collectively gives Microsoft the finger and tells them where to go today when it comes to IE. It's crap.
As I eluded to in another post in this thread, the ignorance at higher levels of government slap us into a position of having no choice. Therefore, we spent time working on a system of deploying patches (btw, Novell's ZENworks absolutely rocks) and also make it a priority to do as much as we can at the firewall to keep those nasty IE exploits out. The act of responsibly deploying IE, patching, and firewalling could keep a person employed full time. Therefore, I refer to those who deal with this crap on a daily basis as "IE administrators".
Yeah, I use the term loosely.
Here's our dillema. We've got all these proprietary web based systems that were written specifically for IE. Opera, Mozilla, Netscape, they all give us weird errors. We're government, when an agency says "this is how it is", our hands our tied. I've written some colorful letters to the people who design these, the response is usually "but everyone uses IE".
So, we're forced into using IE for everything. 500 IE users == a lot of security problems. Stay on top of patches and find ways of rapidly deploying them. Use a good proxy server to filter out stuff (like the gopher vulnerability) and hope for the best. So, from that I label myself as an IE admin, since the dumb thing needs so much babysitting.
"OH MY GOSH!!!! MICROSOFT HAS ANOTHER VULNERABILITY!!! THAT'S NEWS!!!"
Just for kicks, I signed up for Microsoft security bulletins. I get hoards of e-mail every week, as new vulnerabilites are continually found in each of their products. Being an IE administrator it's important to subscribe to this stuff.
New IE patches come out about every 2 months. This patch is not all that big of a deal. All the fixed issues had workarounds, and a lot of it could be prevented by using a good proxy server.
The fact that Slashdot immediately jumps all over Microsoft for this is ludicrous. Get a life.
If I have a laptop at the SOUTH POLE, I can check my e-mail and read Slashdot. If I'm at home, 20,000 feet from Qwest's CO, I have to use dialup.
When the Athlon 2200 was released, one of its bragging points was that it ran flawlessly on the ECS K75SA board, by far the best board for the money.
Has anyone tested the new 2600 on the ECS? I'd like to hear if it runs, and if there's any issues.
But Zilla is a dictionary word.
You'd think they'd get the hint after Microsoft unsuccesifully sued Lindows, claiming that they owned anything ending in "indows". If M$ can't do it, how is another company going to?
when did Sun buy Cobalt? I knew that Gateway bought them, then they were sold to someone else, and now Sun owns them?
This makes sense in a marketing move. Sun's biggest fear about linux is that folks can replace their Sparc Solaris boxen with x86 linux boxen. By marketing an x86 box (a sexy x86 box, I should add...) they can keep their hardware niche and use free software.
Now, the question that I didn't see answered was whether or not x86 Solaris 9 will be free. Solaris 8 was, and I like playing with other (even though sometimes crappy) OSs.
I'm pretty sure they're referring to the return of Solaris to the x86. Solaris 8 was available, then they cut off Solaris 9 and announced it was for SPARC only.
It's called "pizza".
doesn't unthaw mean to freeze?
Yes, this just goes to show how messed up the english language is. At some point in time, it became acceptible to unthaw our frozen dinners.
For more examples of how messed up we really are, take a look at this forward I received not long ago (source unknown):
The bandage was wound around the wound.
The farm was used to produce produce.
The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
He could lead if he would get the lead out.
The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
Since there is no time like the present, he decided it was time to present the present.
A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
I did not object to the object.
The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
They were too close to the door to close it.
The buck does funny things when the does are present.
To help with the planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
After a number of injections, my jaw got number.
Upon seeing a tear in the painting, I shed a tear.
I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
quicksand can work slowly
boxing rings are square
a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.
In what language do people recite at a play, and play at a recital?
How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, yet a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?
Yes, in American English, your house can burn up as it burns down, you fill out a form by filling it in, and an alarm goes off by going on.
That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible; when the lights are out, they are invisible.
And, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay, I end it.
I should clarify a little...
It was decided administratively to take the server down before the RIAA's axe started coming at us. If RIAA had attempted to take us to court, we'd be off the air. I never inquired to the actual amount, I'm part time (they can't afford to keep me on full time, even though they want to). They haven't told me the down and dirty details, but as I understand it, it would have more than DOUBLED the cost of running our station to pay the RIAA fees.
Do you get a real response or is it canned? I like the drop down box for the subject line. Let me guess, if I select "piracy" as the subject and ask them about ice cream, I get a 3 page form letter about how their artists are starving because people like me download too much music?
I work for a small radio station here in the US. We had a few listeners in Germany that liked us. They'd e-mail us all the time and request stuff, it was pretty cool.
Then the mighty hand of the RIAA took away our webcasting. We couldn't afford their rediculous fees and the audio server is now someone's workstation.
Here's what I don't get. By playing the music we play, we encourage those listeners to go out and buy CDs. Apparently the RIAA doesn't understand that. Somehow, allowing people to hear a SAMPLE of music the RIAA produces, encouraging people to buy a full album, is considered piracy to them. Do they realize how much of their sales are based off of listeners who heard it on the radio first? Eventually the RIAA will probably sue radio stations out of existence for this "piracy" that they've only tolerated thus far.
I particularly liked This post yesterday. Substitute in your favorite *AA. I think this is the future of RIAA owned music as well.
With the recent scuffle over JPEG licensing, the issue has come up about patents that were not actively enforced until they became industry standards. If I create a new widget design, let it be copied until all homes on the continent have my widget, then decide to enforce my patent and take the 300,000 or so manufacturers to court, do I have a right to enforce my patent or does it get dismissed?