I'm sure humans can have a negative effect on the environment, that's obvious. But there have been much more dramatic climatic changes in the earths history than the fractions of degree differences that we;re seeing now. Be smart about the environment, but don't panic like it's the end of the world. Sheesh. I would bet my life, that with the longer life expectency of humans, we'll have far over populated the world before it ever gets too hot to live here. And then what do we do? Join together in mass suicides to help the earth? There are bigger issues to worry about.
What's happened to Slashdot? Almost half of the articles recently seem to be Politics or Your Rights Online with political leanings. What happened to the tradition of News For Nerds? Technology news that truely piques the interest of techies. I get more than enough political garbage from TV and the radio, and when I turn to the Internet to read interesting technology articles I find more politics. I'm just so sick of politics and am worried that Slashdot will turn into a political website and bail on it's techie roots...so I thought I would rant about it. What do others think?
I had the exact same experience when trying to cancel my DirecTV service. Months of phone calls couldn't stop the constant barrage of monthly bills. I would call and give them an earfull, and they would say they must have screwed up and not cancelled the service. I would get a credit, and then the next months bill would come again. It took 5 months to finally close the account.
Seems like someone did the numbers and figured out what percentage of customers would adamently call to point out the mistake and keep on their case, what percentage would only notice after a few months, and what percentage would do nothing at all. Then if you weigh that against the scenario where they would canel your service on your first request, they probably saw a substantial amount of money that can be made off "screwing" up cancellations. Kinda like that commercial where the guy finds out they can save $1 million dollars by putting one less olive in every jar they sell. Over time the scam makes a ton of money.
Awesome. I succeeded in striking a cord with someone. Obviously I must be in the right if all they could do is moderate my response as a Troll and give no reasonable reply. Typical in a debate such as this. Cracks me up:-)
I make this point way too often when I come across these kinds of articles. The "evidence" is laughable. I'll admit I'm a Christian so of course I have my own opinions. But if you seriously read the language:
"The next such event, near the end of the Devonian Period, may or may not have been the result of global climate change. 19% of families lost."
What does it take to make a claim like that? And then it goes on to say the most recent mass extinction was either caused by a meteor or natural causes. Wow really? So it was either something from outside our planet or something within. Brilliant. Yes this is a flame because this kind of crap makes me hot.
Now, if you take what this article claims, and hand it to the other group of scientists who preach religously that humans are causing the fractions of degrees change in climate called global warming, they totally contradict eachother. I agree with your post that humans do have an impact, but I'm of the impression the Earth is far more resilient than people think(forget the fact that I also believe God is in control anyway). I also don't think we should trash what God has given us, waste it, or take it for granted.
I actually love science, but I see it as someone breaking open a computer that somone else built to see how it works. This theoretical science is mostly a waste, and to hang your hat on it and use it to debate bigger issues is equally a waste. Typically, if you wait long enough, some other scientist(s) will come out with another paper that contradicts the previous one. Anyway, I've ranted enough...
OK, my bad. I stand corrected, thank you. The point I am trying to make is that the Earth has undergone drastic climate and geographic changes in the past with little to no human influence. Far more drastic than the fractions of degrees global warming theorists are talking about today. Anyway, I'm absolutely certain this debate along with evolution all rests on one's belief or non-belief in God. That's why these debates will never die...
I would have to agree. What's amazing to me is that these scientists conveniently ignore the fact that the Earth's climate was warm enough during a period of time in history, where the ice receeded enough to form a land-bridge between Asia and North America. What's the explaination for that, since most of these scientists believe that we were just a bunch of monkeys during that time, and couldn't possibly have caused enough CO2 pollution to cause global warming. And isn't it funny, the Earth was able to rebound? My point is, there were times many years ago where there were much more drastic fluctuations in our climate on Earth (Ice Age) where it wasn't the fault of humans. Yet, we're told that the Earth is warming the fraction of a degree over the next 100 or so years is cause for concern? How accurate were the previous 100 years of measuring the Earth's temperatures to warrant such a claim? I agree with the MIT professor, that this whole debate has turned into a religious, economic, and political war. OK, I'm going to take a breath now and finish my rant... Bye.
How could you possibly call Wal-Mart a monopoly? Especially given the competition from Target, Sears, K-Mart, etc. It's more like, "Monopoly X meet Company Z, who you greatly depend on, and has the strength to stand up to your strong-arm tactics..."
Come on people, this guy is a genius, we really should stop using EVERYTHING the military is using. As of today I'm going to give up my car because it has a GPS navigation system, television because they play their recruiting commercials on them, coffee because they package it in the soldiers MREs, T-Shirts because I think the Navy invented them, and all of my computers because the military uses them too!!!
If we want Linux to be as common place as cars, TVs, T-Shirts, and coffee, we'll have to accept the fact that someone you may not like for whatever reason may use them too. The LUG is lucky this guy is leaving, what a jag! Oops, there I go again, JAG is a term used in the Navy too. Damn that military!
Sheesh, I can't believe I actually replied to this topic...
What if SCO is just throwing out these stupid claims just to watch the Linux community do all of the legal leg-work? Think about it, it makes sense. All they have to do is make some outrageous claims, show a couple obfuscated slides, and watch thousands of Linux users give thousands of points of view. Every time they put out another stupid quote we all run to kernel posting logs, decipher licenses, and review the entire history of the debate. They then sift through all of it, see if their claim can hold up, and then move on to the next issue. All the while raising their stock value by raking in the licenses by scaring the pants out of some uninformed corporate attorney?
Why don't we just ignore them, let IBM squish them hardcore, and laugh at the end? Anybody can come out and make outlandish claims, it's another thing to be able to back them up. I know most people have already moved on from this thread but I'm getting so sick of these daily SCO fears, the heck with SCO, I have better things to read about.
Unfortunately the issue isn't restricted to clients open to the Internet. If someone were to deliver the worm via email, and it were set loose inside a firewall, the results would be disasterous!!! The other possibility is client VPNs. If a client is infected and VPNs to their corporate network, they could still infect all hosts behind the firewall. I agree, firewalls are a good place to start, but it's not the solution to the real problem.
The Nokia IP series hardware is nothing more than older AMD K6 processor with a small amount of RAM by todays standards. You'd be better off with a $300 PC from Wal-Mart and a couple network cards. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that Linux continues to spread to new area, but it has to be put into perspective.
Everytime these articles are posted on Slashdot, you can almost certainly gaurantee everyone pationatly defending their favorite database. It's like getting engineers from Chevrolet, Ford, Toyota and Dodge... (ok, Nissan too just so I don't get flamed by a Nissan owner...) into a room and asking what's the best pickup truck. They'll all have their valid points on why theirs is better than the other. However if you really read between the lines, the examples are almost always geared toward a certain scenario.
Example:
Chevy: My Chevy has more horsepower then the Toyota, so I can pull larger trailers.
Resonse from Toyota: Well I get better gas milage...
Now apply this to our debate:
IBM (DB2): I can handle multi-terabyte databases while maintaining referential integrity.
Response from MySQL: Dude, I'm simply pulling straight-forward data on a very strict budget....
Bottom line is there's a tool for every job, pick one that works for you and be happy with yourself. Don't blindly say my database can do all and screw everyone who doesn't agree.
If you use dissimilar measurement systems, your math will never compute... What I mean is what do you define as "better livelyhood" or "better children"? To a non-believer a better kid may be a kid that grows up to play in the NFL, looks like Brittney Spears, or has the IQ of 200. To a Christian, non of this matters, and a kid that's physically handicapped and loves their family may seem like the best gift anyone could ask for. To some, making a six-figure salary may seem like a good livelihood, to others, just making a salary may seem "lucky".... To some, living to 100 years old may seem like a healthy life, and to a other, being able to live at all may seem like good health. My point is you cannot affix a value to certain life situations, because not everyone values these earthly situations the same way.... Whether your Christian or not, this holds true.
I'm currently writing this on my new Gnome desktop running on a SPARC5! My little old piece of history has never looked better. Cheers to all who contributed. And a big thanks.
Did you forget the U.S. Military was one of the original creators of the internet? Sure there were many people in the civilian world who helped. My point is, much of the worlds technology comes from the U.S. Military, you should thank them instead of calling them killers.
The US EP-3 is a propeller driven aircraft, meaning it flies roughly 300 miles per hour. The Chinese J-8 fighter which intercepted the US EP-3, is a supersonic fighter jet capable of speeds over mach 2! Do you really think the US plane would "ram" the jet out of the sky? Is it not obvious that in order for there to be a collision of any sort, it would require the Chinese fighter to maneuver itself VERY close to the US EP-3? US military flights usually follow a preplanned flight path, and given the nature of the plane I highly doubt the experienced pilot would be so stupid to veer from it. Additionally, no rational person would "hotdog" a propeller driven aircraft. The only autonomous aircraft in the sky that day were Chinese fighters. Please wake up people, this is nothing more than political posturing by the Chinese trying to make a name for themselves. They know the upper-hand is in their favor and they're exploiting it to the fullest. Not to mention it buys TONS of time to rummage through the classified US aircraft. Janes Intelligence is a pretty reliable source when it comes to military information. Most of this information can be found here. Go there to read some "non-spinned" and "non-politicized" facts.
Supermicro makes some very solid 1U servers. I've used them for all types of purposes from VPN servers to Apache servers. Extremely reasonable price of $1100 for the base model. Additionaly, since most necessary components are already built into the motherboard (i.e. NIC, SCSI, Video) just throw in a harddrive, processor and memory and your rocking. Also, since they're dual processor capable and take up to 4GB of RAM, they can make very powerful application servers IMHO. Hope this helps.
I work for a company of roughly 500 people and we only have one full-time help-desk person. With Citrix Metaframe remote administration is done through "Shadowing" allowing this one person to efficiently manage everyone in the company. The bandwidth requirements are much smaller than X and easily workable with a 28.8 Kbps dial-up connection. Although there's not currently a server version for Linux, they do have clients which run on just about every platform known to mankind. Currently there are only server versions for Windows Terminal Server and Solaris.
I don't mean to sound like a commercial but even a UNIX dork like myself was rather impressed by it's functionality.
How can you be sure they're telling you the truth if you have nothing to verify against? Don't believe everything you here, death is one hell of a deterrent to such activities which you describe.
peering. Essentially all they're doing is taking peering to a grander scale. One massive peering unmbrella so-to-speak, with routing algorithms deciding the best possible routes to other nodes in the their "web." The whole thing makes total sense, I'm just jealous I didn't come up with the business model.
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I'm sure humans can have a negative effect on the environment, that's obvious. But there have been much more dramatic climatic changes in the earths history than the fractions of degree differences that we;re seeing now. Be smart about the environment, but don't panic like it's the end of the world. Sheesh. I would bet my life, that with the longer life expectency of humans, we'll have far over populated the world before it ever gets too hot to live here. And then what do we do? Join together in mass suicides to help the earth? There are bigger issues to worry about.
What's happened to Slashdot? Almost half of the articles recently seem to be Politics or Your Rights Online with political leanings. What happened to the tradition of News For Nerds? Technology news that truely piques the interest of techies. I get more than enough political garbage from TV and the radio, and when I turn to the Internet to read interesting technology articles I find more politics. I'm just so sick of politics and am worried that Slashdot will turn into a political website and bail on it's techie roots...so I thought I would rant about it. What do others think?
I tend to think the chances of us finding life on anything 20,000 life years away is essentially zero.
I had the exact same experience when trying to cancel my DirecTV service. Months of phone calls couldn't stop the constant barrage of monthly bills. I would call and give them an earfull, and they would say they must have screwed up and not cancelled the service. I would get a credit, and then the next months bill would come again. It took 5 months to finally close the account.
Seems like someone did the numbers and figured out what percentage of customers would adamently call to point out the mistake and keep on their case, what percentage would only notice after a few months, and what percentage would do nothing at all. Then if you weigh that against the scenario where they would canel your service on your first request, they probably saw a substantial amount of money that can be made off "screwing" up cancellations. Kinda like that commercial where the guy finds out they can save $1 million dollars by putting one less olive in every jar they sell. Over time the scam makes a ton of money.
Glad to see someone got called on it.
Awesome. I succeeded in striking a cord with someone. Obviously I must be in the right if all they could do is moderate my response as a Troll and give no reasonable reply. Typical in a debate such as this. Cracks me up :-)
I make this point way too often when I come across these kinds of articles. The "evidence" is laughable. I'll admit I'm a Christian so of course I have my own opinions. But if you seriously read the language:
"The next such event, near the end of the Devonian Period, may or may not have been the result of global climate change. 19% of families lost."
What does it take to make a claim like that? And then it goes on to say the most recent mass extinction was either caused by a meteor or natural causes. Wow really? So it was either something from outside our planet or something within. Brilliant. Yes this is a flame because this kind of crap makes me hot.
Now, if you take what this article claims, and hand it to the other group of scientists who preach religously that humans are causing the fractions of degrees change in climate called global warming, they totally contradict eachother. I agree with your post that humans do have an impact, but I'm of the impression the Earth is far more resilient than people think(forget the fact that I also believe God is in control anyway). I also don't think we should trash what God has given us, waste it, or take it for granted.
I actually love science, but I see it as someone breaking open a computer that somone else built to see how it works. This theoretical science is mostly a waste, and to hang your hat on it and use it to debate bigger issues is equally a waste. Typically, if you wait long enough, some other scientist(s) will come out with another paper that contradicts the previous one. Anyway, I've ranted enough...
OK, my bad. I stand corrected, thank you. The point I am trying to make is that the Earth has undergone drastic climate and geographic changes in the past with little to no human influence. Far more drastic than the fractions of degrees global warming theorists are talking about today. Anyway, I'm absolutely certain this debate along with evolution all rests on one's belief or non-belief in God. That's why these debates will never die...
I would have to agree. What's amazing to me is that these scientists conveniently ignore the fact that the Earth's climate was warm enough during a period of time in history, where the ice receeded enough to form a land-bridge between Asia and North America. What's the explaination for that, since most of these scientists believe that we were just a bunch of monkeys during that time, and couldn't possibly have caused enough CO2 pollution to cause global warming. And isn't it funny, the Earth was able to rebound? My point is, there were times many years ago where there were much more drastic fluctuations in our climate on Earth (Ice Age) where it wasn't the fault of humans. Yet, we're told that the Earth is warming the fraction of a degree over the next 100 or so years is cause for concern? How accurate were the previous 100 years of measuring the Earth's temperatures to warrant such a claim? I agree with the MIT professor, that this whole debate has turned into a religious, economic, and political war. OK, I'm going to take a breath now and finish my rant... Bye.
How could you possibly call Wal-Mart a monopoly? Especially given the competition from Target, Sears, K-Mart, etc. It's more like, "Monopoly X meet Company Z, who you greatly depend on, and has the strength to stand up to your strong-arm tactics..."
--end of rant--
Come on people, this guy is a genius, we really should stop using EVERYTHING the military is using. As of today I'm going to give up my car because it has a GPS navigation system, television because they play their recruiting commercials on them, coffee because they package it in the soldiers MREs, T-Shirts because I think the Navy invented them, and all of my computers because the military uses them too!!!
If we want Linux to be as common place as cars, TVs, T-Shirts, and coffee, we'll have to accept the fact that someone you may not like for whatever reason may use them too. The LUG is lucky this guy is leaving, what a jag! Oops, there I go again, JAG is a term used in the Navy too. Damn that military!
Sheesh, I can't believe I actually replied to this topic...
What if SCO is just throwing out these stupid claims just to watch the Linux community do all of the legal leg-work? Think about it, it makes sense. All they have to do is make some outrageous claims, show a couple obfuscated slides, and watch thousands of Linux users give thousands of points of view. Every time they put out another stupid quote we all run to kernel posting logs, decipher licenses, and review the entire history of the debate. They then sift through all of it, see if their claim can hold up, and then move on to the next issue. All the while raising their stock value by raking in the licenses by scaring the pants out of some uninformed corporate attorney?
Why don't we just ignore them, let IBM squish them hardcore, and laugh at the end? Anybody can come out and make outlandish claims, it's another thing to be able to back them up. I know most people have already moved on from this thread but I'm getting so sick of these daily SCO fears, the heck with SCO, I have better things to read about.
Unfortunately the issue isn't restricted to clients open to the Internet. If someone were to deliver the worm via email, and it were set loose inside a firewall, the results would be disasterous!!! The other possibility is client VPNs. If a client is infected and VPNs to their corporate network, they could still infect all hosts behind the firewall. I agree, firewalls are a good place to start, but it's not the solution to the real problem.
Sorry MS, I think SCO owns the Intelectual Property of that technology which you licensed from them last week. Thiefs!
The Nokia IP series hardware is nothing more than older AMD K6 processor with a small amount of RAM by todays standards. You'd be better off with a $300 PC from Wal-Mart and a couple network cards. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that Linux continues to spread to new area, but it has to be put into perspective.
Everytime these articles are posted on Slashdot, you can almost certainly gaurantee everyone pationatly defending their favorite database. It's like getting engineers from Chevrolet, Ford, Toyota and Dodge... (ok, Nissan too just so I don't get flamed by a Nissan owner...) into a room and asking what's the best pickup truck. They'll all have their valid points on why theirs is better than the other. However if you really read between the lines, the examples are almost always geared toward a certain scenario.
Example:
Chevy: My Chevy has more horsepower then the Toyota, so I can pull larger trailers.
Resonse from Toyota: Well I get better gas milage...
Now apply this to our debate:
IBM (DB2): I can handle multi-terabyte databases while maintaining referential integrity.
Response from MySQL: Dude, I'm simply pulling straight-forward data on a very strict budget....
Bottom line is there's a tool for every job, pick one that works for you and be happy with yourself. Don't blindly say my database can do all and screw everyone who doesn't agree.
If you use dissimilar measurement systems, your math will never compute... What I mean is what do you define as "better livelyhood" or "better children"? To a non-believer a better kid may be a kid that grows up to play in the NFL, looks like Brittney Spears, or has the IQ of 200. To a Christian, non of this matters, and a kid that's physically handicapped and loves their family may seem like the best gift anyone could ask for. To some, making a six-figure salary may seem like a good livelihood, to others, just making a salary may seem "lucky".... To some, living to 100 years old may seem like a healthy life, and to a other, being able to live at all may seem like good health. My point is you cannot affix a value to certain life situations, because not everyone values these earthly situations the same way.... Whether your Christian or not, this holds true.
ummm..... huh?
Will all hackers and crackers please stop attacking Microsoft products. Thank you!
Bill
I'm currently writing this on my new Gnome desktop running on a SPARC5! My little old piece of history has never looked better. Cheers to all who contributed. And a big thanks.
Did you forget the U.S. Military was one of the original creators of the internet? Sure there were many people in the civilian world who helped. My point is, much of the worlds technology comes from the U.S. Military, you should thank them instead of calling them killers.
The US EP-3 is a propeller driven aircraft, meaning it flies roughly 300 miles per hour. The Chinese J-8 fighter which intercepted the US EP-3, is a supersonic fighter jet capable of speeds over mach 2! Do you really think the US plane would "ram" the jet out of the sky? Is it not obvious that in order for there to be a collision of any sort, it would require the Chinese fighter to maneuver itself VERY close to the US EP-3? US military flights usually follow a preplanned flight path, and given the nature of the plane I highly doubt the experienced pilot would be so stupid to veer from it. Additionally, no rational person would "hotdog" a propeller driven aircraft. The only autonomous aircraft in the sky that day were Chinese fighters. Please wake up people, this is nothing more than political posturing by the Chinese trying to make a name for themselves. They know the upper-hand is in their favor and they're exploiting it to the fullest. Not to mention it buys TONS of time to rummage through the classified US aircraft. Janes Intelligence is a pretty reliable source when it comes to military information. Most of this information can be found here. Go there to read some "non-spinned" and "non-politicized" facts.
Supermicro makes some very solid 1U servers. I've used them for all types of purposes from VPN servers to Apache servers. Extremely reasonable price of $1100 for the base model. Additionaly, since most necessary components are already built into the motherboard (i.e. NIC, SCSI, Video) just throw in a harddrive, processor and memory and your rocking. Also, since they're dual processor capable and take up to 4GB of RAM, they can make very powerful application servers IMHO. Hope this helps.
I work for a company of roughly 500 people and we only have one full-time help-desk person. With Citrix Metaframe remote administration is done through "Shadowing" allowing this one person to efficiently manage everyone in the company. The bandwidth requirements are much smaller than X and easily workable with a 28.8 Kbps dial-up connection. Although there's not currently a server version for Linux, they do have clients which run on just about every platform known to mankind. Currently there are only server versions for Windows Terminal Server and Solaris. I don't mean to sound like a commercial but even a UNIX dork like myself was rather impressed by it's functionality.
How can you be sure they're telling you the truth if you have nothing to verify against? Don't believe everything you here, death is one hell of a deterrent to such activities which you describe.
peering. Essentially all they're doing is taking peering to a grander scale. One massive peering unmbrella so-to-speak, with routing algorithms deciding the best possible routes to other nodes in the their "web." The whole thing makes total sense, I'm just jealous I didn't come up with the business model.