Of course, there's really nothing we can do to STOP people from adopting Linux. It's just part of the cycle of things. The underground, real coders start an operating system (remember, DOS and Windows were the new kids on the block once), it gradually spreads to more and more people, it starts getting compromised by the mainstream, the underground jumps ship, the platform soon dies without the support of the underground, and the underground begins its work anew.
I think that paragraph is alot of wishful thinking honestly. You think that linux developers will jump ship when linux displaces microsoft as the most popular operating system. Well I think what's more likely is that they'll get hired by corperations who need them to *support* the most popular OS. who better than those who wrote it in the first place. And besides, linux is at least 10 times as popular as it was in 1997-1998 (probably more), and yet the developer base has only grown. Linux is led by developers. I think alot of them feel great that their software is being used by many people and that it's increasing in popularity.
CS and EE are both very mature fields. The state of the art now in computer and os research was basicly the state of the art 3 years ago (aside from enhancements brought by miniaturization). not too much excitement to get you up in the morning and ready to conquer the world.
As some noted computer scientists have said, if they had to do it all over again starting now, they'd probably do biology or genetics, or physics or something, anything, please, besides computer science.
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I think what you've hit on is a quality known as "Maturity". It comes with age to most people, and the youth show the least amount of it.
Linus is an old man by slashdot standards. As is Ted Tso and the other's you've named.
the KDE libs are distributed with debian gnu/linux, and are linked against GPL qt. This wouldn't be possible unless the kdelibs were also GPL.. LOGICAL INFERENCE FROM EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. It's called REASON. Let get brains, folks!
They were released on Halloween 1998. 2001 to 2000: 1 year. 2000 to 1999: 2 years. 1999 to 1998: 3 years. Unless I did my math wrong, that's three years. But you could be old just like me and maybe you forget what year it is. I forgot my age (23) for an hour or so. granted, I was drunk, and surrounded by bubbly 18-year olds.:)
you are clueless as to the algorithms/designs for gtk menus (gnome menus are the same, just more pixmappy).
When you drag from one menu item to another it INTENTIONALLY delays it a few hundred milliseconds. Can you think of why, oh bright, shining star? because if you move across the top of the menu really fast that means you aren't even interested in seeing the menu items you skipped, so WHY FUCKING DRAW THEM? Obviously you have no conception of network bandwidth when using X terminals, or saving cpu percentage on a heavily loaded network box. Maybe you like to use your cpu at 100% to do something as stupid as make menus fly across the screen..
And you comment about icewm.. icewm is worthless. Why not use fvwm-95? Oh the themes. Yeesh. Whatever. they're both the same, and I for one would prefer blackbox to either. at least it's got its own style. Now that I think about it, I'd rather run gnome panel + sawfish than any other crud like icewm or fvwm. The gnome panel is 100x more flexable then the icewm "taskbar". Gtk themes apply to it, unlike the icewm "taskbar". and unlike icewm, the gnome panel and sawfish actually seem to have developers consistently working on it.
Your comment about nautilus can be taken with a grain of salt. Nautilus doesn't add much time to the splash screen. certainly not 10 seconds. True nautilus is alot bigger and slower than win9x window manager, but so is windows XP. And when you think about all the features windows XP lifted from the Eazel development staff (yes, it's there, just look, you'll see alot of the filemanager/desktop innovations that nautilus introduced in XP explorer.)
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ORN and NAND are the same, ANDN and NOR are the same. just fyi. do the logic table you will see.
Being nonsensically happy is a negative. And I do not hate queers. In fact, my daddy is queer. So is my brother and mom. I grew up in a very tolerant family.
Spelling is the ground floor of the evolutionary sky scraper. Sorry, I skipped that grade. Nice seeing ya, I'm on my way up. Hope you enjoy the overgrown swamps and arid deserts you leave your offspring with, you cretin, you diseased branch on the evolutionary tree.
Keep dreaming buddy. Talent is number 4 on their top ten list of qualifications. #1 is good looks. #2 is youth. #3 is attitude. And MAYBE, if you're LUCKY, quality talent will be #4.
I know I'm dumb. But at least Im man enough to admit it. Have you ever admitted to yourself that you are a complete and utter idiot? If you havent, then you haven't lived.
Sorry. it's tough. most people are too arrogant and egotistical to fess up to themselves. But it is definately 100% true for everyone.
facistic is different from fascist. both are adjectives, but the former can be thought of as reminiscent of fascism and so is given alot of leeway. Maybe you hsould think a little more deeply before you give another outrageous comment like that.
That is the lamest justification I've ever heard. Do something useful with your life. Instead of trying to backwards-apply a superficial name tag to some long-forgotten code-word, why dont you try to bring down the microsoft establishment by pointing out how gay and bloated windowsXP is, and how it improves nothing over win2k except some gay ass direct 3d. Excuse me, but that's what I have a PS2 for. Jesus christ, some people are so dense.
Most people laugh at jokes because they feel they are supposed to.
Being herded does not have to be a physical act of being forced to do something. it can merely be a casual side-effect of the trivial way most people choose to lead their lives.
REM pretends that they are for the people, and yet are corperate milk cows. Maybe they are just dumb. Ok that is a good excuse. Maybe he's too dumb to realize that his standing-up for the people is but a farce. Yes I am against record labels charging $17 for a new cd. It's a joke. Mass production on cheap medium should TRANSLATE TO LOWER PRICES. why hasn't it?! DUH, because there's a distribution monopoly and people like michael stipe are only feeding into it. Btw, for the clueless out there, this translates to many many other things, including operating systems and books and other forms of intellection property (better termed intellectual theft, as it hoards from the public good).
ARgh. I was making a point, not being a mindless joke laugher that you find at all the yuppie parties. Some people actually have an different point of view and dont feel like being herded into a laughter state by a mediocre joke.
REM sucks d-ck. listen to something a little more meaningful. Especially REM in wma format. What complete corperate sellouts. I doubt they even give a f-ck that cd's cost $17 now. REM's soul has officially been reaped.
Linux is great. I dont know why anyone would pay $200 for Windows 2000 Fischer Price edition, when redhat 7.2 is really really awesome, and comes with so much software. I am a power user, granted, and therefore I know quality when I see it. And MS really only has marketing and momentum. As things stand right now, it can barely compete on quality/quantity/price of software.
I think it's great to be optimistic about linux growth. Nobody knows what's gonna happen in 5 years, and people that preclude possibilities are lying to themselves. Plain and simple.
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Of course, there's really nothing we can do to STOP people from adopting Linux. It's just part of the cycle of things. The underground, real coders start an operating system (remember, DOS and Windows were the new kids on the block once), it gradually spreads to more and more people, it starts getting compromised by the mainstream, the underground jumps ship, the platform soon dies without the support of the underground, and the underground begins its work anew.
I think that paragraph is alot of wishful thinking honestly. You think that linux developers will jump ship when linux displaces microsoft as the most popular operating system. Well I think what's more likely is that they'll get hired by corperations who need them to *support* the most popular OS. who better than those who wrote it in the first place. And besides, linux is at least 10 times as popular as it was in 1997-1998 (probably more), and yet the developer base has only grown. Linux is led by developers. I think alot of them feel great that their software is being used by many people and that it's increasing in popularity.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
Mike bernstein? only guy I know gay enough to still like guns and roses.
Pleas mod down. thank you.
CS and EE are both very mature fields. The state of the art now in computer and os research was basicly the state of the art 3 years ago (aside from enhancements brought by miniaturization). not too much excitement to get you up in the morning and ready to conquer the world.
As some noted computer scientists have said, if they had to do it all over again starting now, they'd probably do biology or genetics, or physics or something, anything, please, besides computer science.
I think what you've hit on is a quality known as "Maturity". It comes with age to most people, and the youth show the least amount of it.
Linus is an old man by slashdot standards. As is Ted Tso and the other's you've named.
your stated advantages are fallacies. gnome can do both.
Disable sound in control center. disable screen saver in control center. add them to your xinirtc script instead. bingo. done.
I think you could edit the 100 milliseconds in the source code.. too complicated for you obviously, but just a thought.
Oh and how to start gmc when icwm loads.. lets see. make sur eyou have the gnome compliant icewm. add gmc to your xinitrc. bingo. startx.. done!
DUH... dont you SEEEEE?!?!
the KDE libs are distributed with debian gnu/linux, and are linked against GPL qt. This wouldn't be possible unless the kdelibs were also GPL.. LOGICAL INFERENCE FROM EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. It's called REASON. Let get brains, folks!
They were released on Halloween 1998. 2001 to 2000: 1 year. 2000 to 1999: 2 years. 1999 to 1998: 3 years. Unless I did my math wrong, that's three years. But you could be old just like me and maybe you forget what year it is. I forgot my age (23) for an hour or so. granted, I was drunk, and surrounded by bubbly 18-year olds. :)
the KDELIBS CANNOT BE UNDER LGPL.. DO YOU KNOW WHY?
They are LINKED AGAINST A GPL LIB, IE QT.. HAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE STUPID.
you are clueless as to the algorithms/designs for gtk menus (gnome menus are the same, just more pixmappy).
When you drag from one menu item to another it INTENTIONALLY delays it a few hundred milliseconds. Can you think of why, oh bright, shining star? because if you move across the top of the menu really fast that means you aren't even interested in seeing the menu items you skipped, so WHY FUCKING DRAW THEM? Obviously you have no conception of network bandwidth when using X terminals, or saving cpu percentage on a heavily loaded network box. Maybe you like to use your cpu at 100% to do something as stupid as make menus fly across the screen..
And you comment about icewm.. icewm is worthless. Why not use fvwm-95? Oh the themes. Yeesh. Whatever. they're both the same, and I for one would prefer blackbox to either. at least it's got its own style. Now that I think about it, I'd rather run gnome panel + sawfish than any other crud like icewm or fvwm. The gnome panel is 100x more flexable then the icewm "taskbar". Gtk themes apply to it, unlike the icewm "taskbar". and unlike icewm, the gnome panel and sawfish actually seem to have developers consistently working on it.
Your comment about nautilus can be taken with a grain of salt. Nautilus doesn't add much time to the splash screen. certainly not 10 seconds. True nautilus is alot bigger and slower than win9x window manager, but so is windows XP. And when you think about all the features windows XP lifted from the Eazel development staff (yes, it's there, just look, you'll see alot of the filemanager/desktop innovations that nautilus introduced in XP explorer.)
ORN and NAND are the same, ANDN and NOR are the same. just fyi. do the logic table you will see.
since when does gay mean homosexual?
I use it to mean happy.
Being nonsensically happy is a negative. And I do not hate queers. In fact, my daddy is queer. So is my brother and mom. I grew up in a very tolerant family.
Spelling is the ground floor of the evolutionary sky scraper. Sorry, I skipped that grade. Nice seeing ya, I'm on my way up. Hope you enjoy the overgrown swamps and arid deserts you leave your offspring with, you cretin, you diseased branch on the evolutionary tree.
Quality Talent?
Keep dreaming buddy. Talent is number 4 on their top ten list of qualifications. #1 is good looks. #2 is youth. #3 is attitude. And MAYBE, if you're LUCKY, quality talent will be #4.
You are kidding yourself if you dont think slashdot is a "social environment". Time to get clued in. *thwap*.
I know I'm dumb. But at least Im man enough to admit it. Have you ever admitted to yourself that you are a complete and utter idiot? If you havent, then you haven't lived.
Sorry. it's tough. most people are too arrogant and egotistical to fess up to themselves. But it is definately 100% true for everyone.
facistic is different from fascist. both are adjectives, but the former can be thought of as reminiscent of fascism and so is given alot of leeway. Maybe you hsould think a little more deeply before you give another outrageous comment like that.
That is the lamest justification I've ever heard. Do something useful with your life. Instead of trying to backwards-apply a superficial name tag to some long-forgotten code-word, why dont you try to bring down the microsoft establishment by pointing out how gay and bloated windowsXP is, and how it improves nothing over win2k except some gay ass direct 3d. Excuse me, but that's what I have a PS2 for. Jesus christ, some people are so dense.
I agree, but Kbeast there was implying I was somehow at fault for not "getting the joke".. I think that's a little fascistic, dont you?
Most people laugh at jokes because they feel they are supposed to.
Being herded does not have to be a physical act of being forced to do something. it can merely be a casual side-effect of the trivial way most people choose to lead their lives.
REM pretends that they are for the people, and yet are corperate milk cows. Maybe they are just dumb. Ok that is a good excuse. Maybe he's too dumb to realize that his standing-up for the people is but a farce. Yes I am against record labels charging $17 for a new cd. It's a joke. Mass production on cheap medium should TRANSLATE TO LOWER PRICES. why hasn't it?! DUH, because there's a distribution monopoly and people like michael stipe are only feeding into it. Btw, for the clueless out there, this translates to many many other things, including operating systems and books and other forms of intellection property (better termed intellectual theft, as it hoards from the public good).
ARgh. I was making a point, not being a mindless joke laugher that you find at all the yuppie parties. Some people actually have an different point of view and dont feel like being herded into a laughter state by a mediocre joke.
REM sucks d-ck. listen to something a little more meaningful. Especially REM in wma format. What complete corperate sellouts. I doubt they even give a f-ck that cd's cost $17 now. REM's soul has officially been reaped.
Just keep telling yourself that.
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Linux is great. I dont know why anyone would pay $200 for Windows 2000 Fischer Price edition, when redhat 7.2 is really really awesome, and comes with so much software. I am a power user, granted, and therefore I know quality when I see it. And MS really only has marketing and momentum. As things stand right now, it can barely compete on quality/quantity/price of software.
I think it's great to be optimistic about linux growth. Nobody knows what's gonna happen in 5 years, and people that preclude possibilities are lying to themselves. Plain and simple.