If we're lucky, Toshiba will learn from its mistakes and we won't have these problems in the future. From what I've seen, they've got some great notebooks at some decent prices. If it weren't for stories like this (oh, and my lack of disposable income) I'd probably buy one.
They are wonderful notebooks (I'm on my second, but I've convinced enough friends to go with Toshiba that I've tinkered with several different models). The only issue I have with them is the recent decision to go with a touchpad rather than the trackpoint pointer. I know many people like touchpads, but I find I'm more accurate with a trackpoint and wish they had kept those in their satellite model notebooks. On the other hand, this gives me an excuse to buy a gyroscopic mouse
I've had 2 problems with toshiba notebooks, one was when the 3 year old 10-gig fujitsu brand dhard drive died but in the 3 years since then the replacement drive hasn't caused any problems. and the other was when one of the hinges froze up and thus prompted me to go shopping for a new notebook (something I was already considering).
Oh, and as always: feel free to ignore my rambling incoherence.
Translation: "Moore's Law doesn't apply to hard drives. However, if it did, then drives have been increasing in storage capacity faster than Moore's Law says they would if Moore's Law applied".
it's kind of like woodchucks chucking wood. only not really.
That I can understand, most of the people I talk to can't understand that sometimes arrays start at 0 and sometimes at 1 and if you mix the times up you're in trouble. For the most part, people don't seem to grasp the idea of counting from 0 and -counting 0 as a valid entry-
if it's the plot for the third star wars movie, wouldn't that make it deathstar 1 (or maybe 0)? now if it was for the seventh movie, then it could be deathstar 3.
I did mention that being able to assign multiple groups to files could be nice, but nesting groups isn't really a solution. it's a quick and dirty hack which would end up hiding what groups really have access to the file. Yes you could expand the nested group to see which groups it contains, but with the current method (or the multiple groups per file method) you can quickly see who has what access with an ls -l.
In any case, I keep trying to find a time when even the ability to assign multiple groups to a file would be needed. If the admin sets up sane groups to begin with, then there shouldn't really be that much need for multiple groups per file. As to it being a maintenance nightmare, I have to ask: "how so?" creating a group is a simple task, adding a user to the group is a simple task, adding several users to the group based on their curren group membership wouldn't be that hard to do with a simple shell script. and it's pretty easy to find out what users are members of any given group. and if you have users ending up as members of more than 16 groups, then I would first check to see if you have a good reason to have that many groups and have users as members of that many groups.
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I know this will be modded +5 insightful, but you should really refrain from giving the mods ideas.
I don't see why any user would need to be a memeber of more than 16 groups, or why nested groups would be such a great thing, but it would be nice to have ext2 and ext3 support multiple groupsper file without having to find and apply a patch. Then again, I doubt I'd ever use it more than once or twice, and the existing unix file permissions scheme has lasted for so long because it works.
Other than that if the post you're replying to can't come up with any security problems greater than a proven file permission system that's easy to understand and use, then where's the problem?
195 is already down from the 350 estimates, and if I recall corretly, there were a few people who said that they might pay 200, but not 350. now it's down to 195 and it's not out yet. if Sony gets the price down to 150 or so, I'll probably pick one up to replace my old gameboy color.
Great, now I need a new sticker to go with the "My other computer is a 40,000 node Beowolf cluster" sticker on my laptop.. maybe one that says "Your 40,000 node Beowolf cluster is one node of my other computer".
damn progress always screwing with my cutting-edge stickers.
Perhaps it's simply an incredibly advanced vulnerability which does in fact produce a new linux distribution from nothing but ls and mkdir with the proper path applied.
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Well, we dont' have to ask you the question: "emacs or vi?"
If we're lucky, Toshiba will learn from its mistakes and we won't have these problems in the future. From what I've seen, they've got some great notebooks at some decent prices. If it weren't for stories like this (oh, and my lack of disposable income) I'd probably buy one.
They are wonderful notebooks (I'm on my second, but I've convinced enough friends to go with Toshiba that I've tinkered with several different models). The only issue I have with them is the recent decision to go with a touchpad rather than the trackpoint pointer. I know many people like touchpads, but I find I'm more accurate with a trackpoint and wish they had kept those in their satellite model notebooks. On the other hand, this gives me an excuse to buy a gyroscopic mouse
I've had 2 problems with toshiba notebooks, one was when the 3 year old 10-gig fujitsu brand dhard drive died but in the 3 years since then the replacement drive hasn't caused any problems. and the other was when one of the hinges froze up and thus prompted me to go shopping for a new notebook (something I was already considering).
Oh, and as always: feel free to ignore my rambling incoherence.
Translation: "Moore's Law doesn't apply to hard drives. However, if it did, then drives have been increasing in storage capacity faster than Moore's Law says they would if Moore's Law applied".
it's kind of like woodchucks chucking wood. only not really.
Are you suggesting that we should try to keep Linus out of our schools?
That I can understand, most of the people I talk to can't understand that sometimes arrays start at 0 and sometimes at 1 and if you mix the times up you're in trouble. For the most part, people don't seem to grasp the idea of counting from 0 and -counting 0 as a valid entry-
if it's the plot for the third star wars movie, wouldn't that make it deathstar 1 (or maybe 0)? now if it was for the seventh movie, then it could be deathstar 3.
it was probably mroe like
throw "We get signal."
Well, you could play pool with it. However getting those black holes in place might be a bit hard.
Even trickier would be getting your moons back to rack up for a second game.
...and killing more dinosaurs.
Just where on earth are you located? The Valley of the Lost?
You're on the DNF team, aren't you?
You youngsters had everything so danged easy with your 'lowercase' letters.
I'm sure that, the way this thread is going, someone will eventually mention Wookies.
I did mention that being able to assign multiple groups to files could be nice, but nesting groups isn't really a solution. it's a quick and dirty hack which would end up hiding what groups really have access to the file. Yes you could expand the nested group to see which groups it contains, but with the current method (or the multiple groups per file method) you can quickly see who has what access with an ls -l.
In any case, I keep trying to find a time when even the ability to assign multiple groups to a file would be needed. If the admin sets up sane groups to begin with, then there shouldn't really be that much need for multiple groups per file. As to it being a maintenance nightmare, I have to ask: "how so?" creating a group is a simple task, adding a user to the group is a simple task, adding several users to the group based on their curren group membership wouldn't be that hard to do with a simple shell script. and it's pretty easy to find out what users are members of any given group. and if you have users ending up as members of more than 16 groups, then I would first check to see if you have a good reason to have that many groups and have users as members of that many groups.
I know this will be modded +5 insightful, but you should really refrain from giving the mods ideas.
It's like running a virtual machine on a virtual machine.. only with people. The concept isn't that strange really.
What does NeXT have to do with anything?
I don't see why any user would need to be a memeber of more than 16 groups, or why nested groups would be such a great thing, but it would be nice to have ext2 and ext3 support multiple groupsper file without having to find and apply a patch. Then again, I doubt I'd ever use it more than once or twice, and the existing unix file permissions scheme has lasted for so long because it works.
Other than that if the post you're replying to can't come up with any security problems greater than a proven file permission system that's easy to understand and use, then where's the problem?
was it called Halo:Tactics?
195 is already down from the 350 estimates, and if I recall corretly, there were a few people who said that they might pay 200, but not 350. now it's down to 195 and it's not out yet. if Sony gets the price down to 150 or so, I'll probably pick one up to replace my old gameboy color.
Great, now I need a new sticker to go with the "My other computer is a 40,000 node Beowolf cluster" sticker on my laptop.. maybe one that says "Your 40,000 node Beowolf cluster is one node of my other computer".
damn progress always screwing with my cutting-edge stickers.
Probably the FSF has only outdated versions of idealism, running on old hardware where each compile needs aeons
Actually, they're emulating it on a 25 MHz Centris 650, and it took them a week to boot up.
Personally, I would have gone the other way and used the rejected name from that same comic: "Script". as in Script Kitty.
We could put all the nuclear power plants for the entire world in France... I don't think anyone would mind much.
Who said anything about Total Recall?
Perhaps it's simply an incredibly advanced vulnerability which does in fact produce a new linux distribution from nothing but ls and mkdir with the proper path applied.