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Google Acquires Keyhole Corp.

telstar writes "As part of their ever-expanding online presence, Google has acquired online map provider Keyhole Corp.. Keyhole's technology allows users to perform virtual flyovers of satellite imagery of the earth's surface. The immediate impact of this acquisition is a price drop in Keyhole's service charge. Beyond that, Google does 'not have any announced plans regarding how this technology will integrate with our current products and services.'"

245 comments

  1. CYBERSTALK! by ayf6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now i can cyberstalk for real!

    1. Re:CYBERSTALK! by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are many more practical uses for this. My inside sources at Google (read: wild speculation) tell me that they're planning on extending their search technology beyond the web, and on to the planet Earth. Imagine:

      Google search: my car keys
      Google search: Weapons of Mass Destruction
      Google search: the dog

    2. Re:CYBERSTALK! by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      Not even google the all-powerful can find what doesn't exist.

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    3. Re:CYBERSTALK! by takeya · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I belive Microsoft was developing some things with them for longhorn. I remember an informational video about longhorn/upcoming tech and there was one for small businesses that included collaboration software and keyhole/microsoft map software that would let you track and see the stats of members of a team.

    4. Re:CYBERSTALK! by MNJavaGuy · · Score: 1

      My dog does too exist! Take that back!

    5. Re:CYBERSTALK! by Kehvarl · · Score: 1

      was it called Halo:Tactics?

  2. Who's going to register this domain? by Greg+Larkin · · Score: 2, Funny
    $ whois gkeyhole.com

    Whois Server Version 1.3

    Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
    with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
    for detailed information.

    No match for "GKEYHOLE.COM".
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    1. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 2, Interesting
      No one, maybe because it would be stupid?

      Now, GMap.com would amke much more sense.

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    2. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more worried about the name gHole.com

    3. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by Otter · · Score: 4, Funny
      Fortunately, I'm now halfway through a marketing course and can inform you that the ideal name for this business is:

      Geyhole

    4. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by Gogo+Dodo · · Score: 1

      gmap.com and gmaps.com are already taken and taken a long time ago. 1998 and 2000, respectively. Interestingly, both by UK companies, but different companies. I suspect, Google will do something like maps.google.com.

    5. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by HP-UX'er · · Score: 1

      too late ... already in use ...

    6. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by owlstead · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, you've retained too little from the owners name. As you might know, the new owner wants to put a stamp on it. Therefore you should use more of the buyers name, such as:

      Goohole

    7. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by cryptochrome · · Score: 2, Funny

      Get your head out of the closet. The ideal name is GooHole.

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    8. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by HeyBob! · · Score: 1

      Ah, how about gSpot? (I can guess already taken though...)

    9. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Get your head out of the closet. - from now on, the actual expression will be: (drum rolls, please)

      Get your head out of your GooHole.

    10. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

      gSpot.com?

    11. Re:Who's going to register this domain? by wildsurf · · Score: 1

      Geyhole

      Why not Keyhoooooooooole?

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  3. What about Worldwind? by Nuskrad · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can get similar images from the NASA Worldwind software for free, although they need to fix their servers after the massive slashdotting they got.

    1. Re:What about Worldwind? by cmallinson · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can get similar images from the NASA Worldwind software for free, although they need to fix their servers after the massive slashdotting they got.

      I've tried both services within the last week, and although I was impressed with NASA'a Worldwine, Keyhole 2 kicks its ass in a big way. The street name overlay and colour images make it so much easier to use.

    2. Re:What about Worldwind? by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 5, Informative
      You can still use World Wind if you select TerraServer as your imagery source instead of NASA. It truly is an awesome program and everyone even remotely interested in this should check it out.

      World Wind is here. Just be sure to deselect "Landsat 7" from the toolbar (this uses NASA servers that are out of commission) and select "USGS-1m" instead for 1m resolution for the US. For some urban areas you can get much higher resolution and color by going into the "Layer Manager" under Images->High Resolution Terrain Mapped Imagery and selecting "USGS Urban Aera Ortho-Imagery". The topo maps are cool too.

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    3. Re:What about Worldwind? by ViolentGreen · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. I've been trying to use it since it hit slashdot and have had no luck at all. I'll give this way a shot.

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    4. Re:What about Worldwind? by Colonel+Failure · · Score: 0

      Tried Woldwind before I signed up with Keyhole a while ago, Keyhole is way faster and better interface. Now with Google behind them maybe they will beef up their servers.

    5. Re:What about Worldwind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Perhaps, but Keyhole's software trounces NASA eaisily due to the fact that keyhole uses a multitude of services that do flyovers of cities so you can even make out cars (couple years between updates though).

    6. Re:What about Worldwind? by Fizzyboy · · Score: 1

      Unless your a cheapo (like me) and don't want to pay for it. Either way, I'm going to check both of them out..

  4. Comfort of your own home. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is great pinky. I can now make plans to take over the world!

    1. Re:Comfort of your own home. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, I think so, Brain. But this time, you wear the tutu.

    2. Re:Comfort of your own home. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry Brain, but sergey and Brin already did.

    3. Re:Comfort of your own home. by WD_40 · · Score: 1

      Uh, I think so, Brain. But where are we going to get rubber pants our size?

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    4. Re:Comfort of your own home. by iabervon · · Score: 1

      "But where are we going to find rubber pants our size?" would make a great Google ad.

  5. Bad planning? by kalpol · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So if they don't yet know how they're going to use it, why did they buy it? I hope Google isn't falling into the trap of buying up companies with cool ideas because they have lots of money burning holes in their pockets. That will lead to overexpansion, and with MS breathing down their necks, they can ill afford missteps in their corporate strategy.

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    1. Re:Bad planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe they are saying one thing but meaning the other!!!!!!!!!! OMG111111111

    2. Re:Bad planning? by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

      Judging from the uptick this morning, investors either disagree or just don't care.... Long live the Internet bubble!

    3. Re:Bad planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they claim to have no *announced* plans. This does not mean they have no plans for how to to use it, just that they're not telling the world yet.

    4. Re:Bad planning? by B'Trey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since when does "no announced plans" mean "... they don't know how they're going to use it...?"

      If MS IS breathing down their neck, do you think the wisest move would be to announce to the world exactly what their plans are?

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    5. Re:Bad planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "So if they don't yet know how they're going to use it, why did they buy it?"

      They have no announced plans. Donkey. RTFM.

    6. Re:Bad planning? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      And boy, did Google's auction do an excellent job of avoiding the IPO roller coaster.

      In their two and a half months, they started at 100 points, and moved kindof smoothly up to 180. Lord only knows if that's due to irrational exuberance or not, but it's not due to IPO bullshit.

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    7. Re:Bad planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have a limited time to do these acquisitions if they are done with stock. Google will not have a high flying valuation for long.

      They'll probably figure out what to do with them later.

    8. Re:Bad planning? by Mattintosh · · Score: 4, Funny

      If there's one thing I've learned from cartoons, it's that the wisest move is always to announce your plans to at least someone who might be able to stop them, if not the whole world.

      Mua-ha-ha...

    9. Re:Bad planning? by generic-man · · Score: 3, Funny

      Keyhole will be renamed "Google Keyhole [BETA]." The entire application will be rewritten in JavaScript and will only work with Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox 1.1preview4b(v) with Google Keyhole [BETA] extension installed.

      Slashdot will run at least four front-page stories on the subject (including "Google Acquires Keyhole Corp." and tomorrow's "Google Aquires Keyhole Corpany"). Comments will range from "This is cool" to "This sucks" to "Well it's BETA, what do you expect."

      Lather, rinse, repeat.

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    10. Re:Bad planning? by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

      Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful. Keyhole's technology and products are an excellent addition to our efforts to do that. We do not have any announced plans regarding how this technology will integrate with our current products and services. - Keyhole's website (emphasis added)

      The key words are announced plans. Just because Google doesn't announce their plan doesn't mean they don't have one. And really, when you think about it is it that hard to see how much this acquisition makes sense...

      Millions of Google users +
      Google's uber-elite talent pool +
      Billions of dollars +
      World Class search technology +
      Detailed satellite maps of the entire globe =
      Best searching and mapping software available

    11. Re:Bad planning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keyhole was going to get bought one way or another. So many companies have been after that company in part or completely for some time. I left an upstart car GPS company a while ago (asking for god to pretty much come down and grant thier wishes, but they had the money to do it...just didn't need the stress) while they were in the middle of negotiations for a pretty big stake of the company. If memory serves me right I think the CIA bought like 10% of that company because of the detailed flyby maps of cities do to elivations.

    12. Re:Bad planning? by danila · · Score: 1

      Contrary to popular belief, ideas are basically worthless in the business world. It's all in the implementation.

      Linux developers are very open about their plans - does that provide any tangible benefit to Microsoft? Basically not. Even if Google told all their plans to the world, the world would be largely unaffected, except that Google's share price would reflect this sooner (the only long-term effect would be positive, due to bigger transparency). Do you think that if Google told their plans for Keynote MS would be able to quickly counterattack? I doubt it. Imagine that it told about their plans for webmail in advance. Everyone would say "So Google is planning a webmail with javascript interface. Duh!"

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    13. Re:Bad planning? by Johnny+Mozzarella · · Score: 1

      Funny? I think that is the most Insightful comment I've read today.

    14. Re:Bad planning? by kulack · · Score: 1

      Clearly, this is just the first step in being able to Google for your car keys or that cute blond you scanned 4 beers ago and can't remember which table she was sitting at.

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    15. Re:Bad planning? by tekunokurato · · Score: 1

      I do agree that they don't know what they are going to do with it (if you read the googleblog, they literally said "we just think these guys are cool!). However, there are some clear and obvious ideas that will shear up holes in google's business and keep it ahead of the competition. One is to create a better mapping program than Yahoo. Currently, they link to yahoo and mapquest when you put in directions; clearly they'll want their own, rather than to continue sending people to yahoo (a note--isn't it great how they still openly give users that option?).

      They have also been working on Google Local, which could seriously benefit from some real geographic definitions as opposed to just rough correlation. If they can throw their math at the problem of mapping the world out in a useable way, it'll scale incredibly well and give them a real edge going into the future.

    16. Re:Bad planning? by metlin · · Score: 1

      Come on, this is Slashdot. That was just a typical, "IANAMBA, but I do play on one Slashdot" comment.

      Somehow people here think that they know what's better for a multi-million dollar corporation with some of the smartest minds than the corporation itself.

      Heh.

    17. Re:Bad planning? by metlin · · Score: 1

      If memory serves me right I think the CIA bought like 10% of that company because of the detailed flyby maps of cities do to elivations.

      You're partly right - one of their investors is In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the CIA.

      From their company's website -

      "In June 2003, Keyhole further defined its leadership position with funding from In-Q-Tel and deployment by NIMA, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, one of the most prominent users of earth imagery and information."

      Should prove interesting. Google + CIA, hmm :)

    18. Re:Bad planning? by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      They are competitors to yahoo, and yahoo uses mapquest technology. Could they be building a rival to mapquest?

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    19. Re:Bad planning? by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      They need someway to parse the mountains of data generated by echelon, why not use google tech?

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    20. Re:Bad planning? by RexxFiend · · Score: 1

      Millions of Google users +
      Google's uber-elite talent pool +
      Billions of dollars +
      World Class search technology +
      Detailed satellite maps of the entire globe =
      Best searching and mapping software available


      US finds Osama?

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  6. Neato by Jonny_eh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It'd be neat if they integrated this technology with the google local search. Imagine searching for a local business then getting to see it on a satellite map, cool.

    1. Re:Neato by MustardMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you do a name, location search on google, you can often get as your first result a phonebook entry listing their number, home address, etc. A few clicks away you can usually see a satellite picture of said address. It was pretty creepy to put in nothing but my father's name and town, and be a couple clicks away from a satellite image of his house.

    2. Re:Neato by pinchhazard · · Score: 0

      Yeah, my favorite website is Terraserver.

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    3. Re:Neato by Council · · Score: 1

      This isn't hard to do already; Mapquest had it as a built-in feature for a while but they took it off. I think it was in part because the fact is that, while cool, satellite photos really aren't that useful for utilitarian things that people use Google Local and Mapquest for.

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    4. Re:Neato by fitzsimj · · Score: 1

      Urrr... Keyhole _already_ does this.

      I saw Keyhole demo software that's now well over a year old which could locate businesses of a certain type, then do a fun 3D fly-by to the location. It could also show neat photographic maps with icons overlayed representing, for example, sushi restaurants in an area.

  7. Maps? by DrEldarion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Coming soon: Google maps. Better than the rest, because we give you sattelite images of your destination!

  8. Googleing for people! by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny
    So once we get our government mandated RFID tag installed you'll be able to google for a person and see there location on a satellite map!

    This is of course..... not true.

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    1. Re:Googleing for people! by elFarto+the+2nd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is of course..... not true.

      ...yet

      Regards
      elFarto
    2. Re:Googleing for people! by ColdZero · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The government will never pass a law stating that we need RFID's to track our positions. Why? Because all the poloticians in DC bangning chicks other than their wives could get caught by just looking up where they are and who is in proximity to them. Once they realize that, it will never pass.

    3. Re:Googleing for people! by polecat_redux · · Score: 1

      This is of course..... not true.

      Obviously, but what is true is that they're using the technology in-house to correlate your IP address to your physical location. So when you search for something questionable, the overhead image of your home is automatically loaded into a cruise missile.

    4. Re:Googleing for people! by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Congress exempts Congress from most of the laws they pass. It will not apply to them.

    5. Re:Googleing for people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      what can be done will inevitably be done

    6. Re:Googleing for people! by ColdZero · · Score: 0

      So that checks and balanaces thing is workin out pretty well.

    7. Re:Googleing for people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > So that checks and balanaces thing is workin out
      > pretty well

      They figured out how to get out of the "different branches of government" thing when corporations were given the same powers as people (except with less accountablility and more government welfare.)

    8. Re:Googleing for people! by Anhaedra · · Score: 0

      RFID tags couldn't be used to track people by sattelite, they can only be read by a scanner at very close range. (About a foot) They give off a very faint signal that is far too weak for a sattelite to detect.

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    9. Re:Googleing for people! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they can only be read by a scanner at very close range.

      Which feed into the gootracker servers and the user interface of the gootracker system matches up the incoming RFID data with the location on a satellite map.

      I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?

  9. Google Maps? by CtrlPhreak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With its neverending quest to be able to search everything and anything, perhaphs you'll be able to search the surface of the earth for things in the future through google. Like mapquest but without needing an address, just a starting location then a google search for something as the destination. Come to think of it, that could be pretty cool. What else could they use this for? It can't just be another revenue stream for google can it?

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    1. Re:Google Maps? by hocrap · · Score: 2, Funny

      With its neverending quest to be able to search everything and anything, perhaphs you'll be able to search the surface of the earth for things in the future through google.

      Like WMDs?

      Mr. Google please help find direction from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 ... to heu, North Korea?

    2. Re:Google Maps? by gp310ad · · Score: 1

      Where did I put my keys? will becme a nightmare.

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    3. Re:Google Maps? by justforaday · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...perhaphs you'll be able to search the surface of the earth for things in the future through google.

      Oooooh! Y'mean like "where will I be at 10:45am tomorrow"???

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    4. Re:Google Maps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad they've totally ignored searching for actual web pages since they've gone public. They've only got 10% of the publically indexable web actually indexed. Google is such bullshit now I can't even believe it. It fucking sucks. Fuck Google until they start working on their fucking SE again.

    5. Re:Google Maps? by DrEasy · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe that's what the founder had it mind when he named his company "Keyhole" (what kind of crazy name is that BTW)?

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  10. Expedia, Travelocity, Priceline, etc = in Trouble by Gary+Destruction · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not even William Shatner and Leonard Nemoy can save Priceline from this move. Not only will you be able to name your own price on hotels and airfare, you'll be able to take a virtual walk down the street to the hotel. And you'll see William Shatner inside fighting Leonard Nemoy to get his "job" back. Then google have Scotty beam them up.

  11. Looks nicer than NASA's Worldwind :) by morriscat69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And I probably dont have to build a dual proc box to run it.

    1. Re:Looks nicer than NASA's Worldwind :) by Blue-Footed+Boobie · · Score: 1

      /me *Thanks stars for my dual-cpu rig.*

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  12. Mission Statement by TheJavaGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is very much in line with google's mission statement.
    Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful.

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    1. Re:Mission Statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      google seems so inovative and innocent...but will they really seem that way when they literally have dominated near all ecommerce and have "organized" all the worlds information? wasnt it Stallin who said he who controls the media controls the masses? is this not where it seems they are headed?

    2. Re:Mission Statement by drakaan · · Score: 1

      Then let us all hope that "Don't be evil." is a mantra that sticks at that little company.

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    3. Re:Mission Statement by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 1

      They don't control the media, nor do they control the information. They provide it. Besides, TV is a lot more pervasive than the internet, and would do a lot more in terms of controlling the media.

      Anyhow, if their information was proved to be faulty, people would stop using it.

    4. Re:Mission Statement by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      Anyhow, if their information was proved to be faulty, people would stop using it.

      Yes, just like they stopped using the faulty information provided by television commercials or by Fox News.
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  13. Google needs real competition by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know that, like Apple, they're a darling of the slashdot crowd. But unlike Apple, they are rapidly approaching a sort of online monopoly that we haven't seen before.

    I don't care what they claim in their corporate mission statements. "Do no evil" my ass, I'm not stupid enough to take anything a bunch of suits say without a grain of salt. MSFT was an underdog with noble goals once upon a time.

    Google's growth worries me, the way they seek to be the worlds largest advertising company worries me.

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    1. Re:Google needs real competition by Oxy+the+moron · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As much a I don't want to don the tinfoil hat, I have to agree with you on this one. Google is starting to get its fingers into so many things, not unlike MSFT. Your post seems to point out the one startling difference... geeks don't despise Google. At least... not to my knowledge.

      Is it possible that Google is the "Good Guy" and trying to undermine all the "Bad Stuff" that MSFT does? Or is this just a clever ploy to get all the /.ers excited about Google only to find out they've been pulling the wool over our eyes the whole time?

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    2. Re:Google needs real competition by n0rr1s · · Score: 1

      I was about to say something similar. I imagine the people there now do have noble goals - they have shown nothing but respect for the online community thus far. But those guys won't be there forever. I think it is inevitable that within, say, a couple of decades, the company will be run by people interested only in the next unit of currency. If Google is a monopoly when that happens, the monopoly status will be exploited.

    3. Re:Google needs real competition by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Google's a corporation, corporations are neither good nor bad IMO, they're all alike, all about profit.

      Google seems to be seeking to own every service the internet provides. That's what worries me. What happens when mapquest and competing search engines dry up? Google could easily impose on every netizen a "google tax".

      Just because it's free now, doesn't mean they wouldn't exploit such a rich source of revenue, especially with no competition to undercut them.

      It's not tinfoil hat time at all. It always worries me when a single entity gets so much control over a globally shared resource like the internet.

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    4. Re:Google needs real competition by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yahoo alread does a large part of what Google is doing. Google is hardly the only source of any particular service that I am aware of, and it isn't like an operating system lock-in that I can't switch and the others don't have 100% of the software I need, I can pick and choose where to go for every particular service Google offers.

    5. Re:Google needs real competition by System.out.println() · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MSFT was an underdog with noble goals once upon a time.


      Can you give me a single noble goal MSFT ever had?

    6. Re:Google needs real competition by decipher_saint · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So start using another search engine, there are plenty out there. Invariably someone somewhere will design a better search algorythm and couple that with a simple / clean design and Google will join the ranks of hip search engines past.

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    7. Re:Google needs real competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, err, world domination?

    8. Re:Google needs real competition by drakaan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And here's why that won't wash.

      They have no competition at their current price point. Once you charge for a service, all of us non-subscribing, cheap-ass, "I'll just do it myself...better"-type geeks will do an end-run around you and give a better offering away for free.

      Linux was first (and pretty much ignored for 10 years), then Microsoft said "hey, if we give away a browser for free, we can kick Netscape's ass!", then Netscape went and open-sourced and gave us Mozilla, which we can run on Linux...etc, etc, etc. Free (as in beer) usually wins. Free (as in freedom) is a no-brainer.

      Google's rise to it's current status has a lot to do with the geeks that work at Google, and the geeks that are in charge of Google, so the odds of nefarious plot hatching there are (IMHO) somewhat lower than at MS. They built their business on advertising revenue, rather than liscensing madness, so aside from doing a good job and getting people to look at their ads, they don't have much to push...certainly not in the form of subscriptions (well, maybe a charge for ad-free searching).

      Right now, the good thing is that Google is scaring the crap out of Microsoft, and may (eventually) force a change in their revenue model. Short term: Google is still good. Long term: Even if Google forgets how to be good, they won't get away with it...geeks are fickle.

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    9. Re:Google needs real competition by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To make personal computing available and affordable to the masses? That was basically their original "mission statement", and was noble enough at a time when computing was basically the domain of the rich.

      Would I have ever owned a C64 for under $1000 bucks (at launch) if not in part for it's built-in BASIC interpreter by Micro Soft of Palo Alto?

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    10. Re:Google needs real competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be right. After all Microsoft has become insignificant since Linux became available.

    11. Re:Google needs real competition by baronben · · Score: 1

      A computer on every desk?

      Neal Stephenson, in his essay "In the Beginning...Was the Command Line" makes an interesting point that without Microsoft, there wouldn't have been cheep, commodity computers because there would never have been a market for the personal computer.

      Not saying that Microsoft is good, only that they opened the world of cheep computing to the general public.

    12. Re:Google needs real competition by blamanj · · Score: 1

      Not saying that Microsoft is good, only that they opened the world of cheep [sic] computing to the general public.

      This is, of course, complete nonsense. There were dozens of computer companies competing in the 8-bit market (C/PM) and that competition pushed prices down. MS took off when the IBM PC came on the scene, and IBM could just have easily chosen CP/M-86 (or even the UCSD P-System) as the default operating system.

      Plus the killer app for PCs was VisiCalc (the first spreadsheet), which first appeared on the Apple II.

    13. Re:Google needs real competition by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1
      Would I have ever owned a C64 for under $1000 bucks (at launch) if not in part for it's built-in BASIC interpreter by Micro Soft of Palo Alto?

      Sure you would. Commodore would have picked up some other vendor because the barriers to entry in the system software market had not yet been erected. Any competent developer could have written 8K of code to implement a BASIC interpreter. I bought a Sinclair ZX81 for under $100 that used a non-Microsoft BASIC interpreter. No big deal.

    14. Re:Google needs real competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I most certainly Agree with this, and was actually just saying to a friend of mine who is a frequent slashdotter, that Google is the next Big Brother... they're reaching omniscience with their recent release of their desktop search utility and now this acquisition of Keyhole Corp. Of course they'll say that they have no immediate plans for it.... but I'm sure that they have something in their scheme of things to implement it somewhere down the line... they're just prepping for it now, and getting their ducks in a row.

      Yes, Google is DEFINITELY a "darling" much like Apple on these boards.... but a healthy dose of compeitition will only benefit EVERYONE, including Google... keeping them on their toes so that they don't become lazed...

      - C. K.

    15. Re:Google needs real competition by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      "Google's growth worries me, the way they seek to be the worlds largest advertising company worries me."

      You don't have to worry unless Google starts telling advertisers that they are forbidden from advertising anywhere else if they want their ads to appear on Google.

      You don't have to worry unless Google buys the other search engines and then shuts them down.

      You don't have to worry unless, after shutting down the other search engines, Google Search only allows you to get Internet search results by using Google Firerodent which you have to buy for 10 times its normal market value.

      You don't have to worry unless Google Search, after illegally maintaining its position as the only widely used search engine, keeps changing its data exchange formats to keep anyone else from operating with its services.

      Until these things start happening, your concern is misplaced.

    16. Re:Google needs real competition by baronben · · Score: 1

      True, but none of them took off. Computers only became affordable to most people when there was a large enough market created. Its an economy of scale thing, once production reaches a certain level, things become cheeper to make as fixed costs are spread out over many units.

      With the introduction of Windows, a GUI based operating system that could be installed on non-apple computers, people could start using computers with out lots of training.

      I think the issue that you see if a cause/effect thing. I maintain that Windows was the cause of the rise of cheep PCs, while you (I think) think that Windows was the response to the availability of cheep computers. Unfortunately, I'm to lazy to do the research on to which it actually is.

    17. Re:Google needs real competition by bushidocoder · · Score: 1

      Actually, liscensing models as the principal profit point aren't nearly as scary as ad-revenue driven companies. Microsoft expands revenues by either beating the competition (to which the market always responds in one way or another) or by moving into new theaters - ad-driven companies increase their revenues by selling more ads.

      To date, Google's ads have been pretty non-intrusive, but then again Google's not having money problems. What happens if Yahoo or MSN ups their market share substantially. What does Google do to stay afloat. Google's technologies allows them to collect vast quantities of information about anything or anyone, information they can datamine and sell if things get tough. Right now you can pay to increase your site's ranking for a given search - what happens if Google determines there's a valid market for selling the ability to knock your competitors search ranking down a couple steps. Gmail in its current incarnation mines your email for ad placement. I personally don't care because what they offer to me is worth it. But what happens in the future if they decide to sell that personal information to other companies. What happens if Google Desktop Search can gather trends as to what you like/dislike by theme and sell that?

      I think kiddie porn is despicable and child stalkers should get the shit kicked out of them daily. Fortunately for a healthy society, I'm not in a position to make that happen. If I worked at Google, with or without company consent, with enough trending data at my fingertips, I could make it happen. Google is in a unique position that technically they as a company or an individual at that company can actually make a list of people who have kiddie porn on their box or people that have chat logs where they try to trick kids. Less controversial, Google could probably build a list of all the contributors to Moveon.org, or a list of all the people in Pacific Northwest that have AIDs. Not cool.

      At the moment, I think Google is good. I'm just saying that the danger to the individual is 1000x greater from Google than it could ever be from a company like Microsoft, because at the end of the day, I can switch off Microsoft or Apple if I dislike their policies. You can't escape the datamining Google can do. And that makes them very dangerous.

    18. Re:Google needs real competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      MSFT was an underdog with noble goals once upon a time.


      Oh? What were their noble goals back then? Harass computer kit users over licensing issues?

    19. Re:Google needs real competition by 2old2rockNroll · · Score: 1

      Google's a corporation, corporations are neither good nor bad IMO, they're all alike, all about profit.

      There are real differences between companies, and you can tell by working for them. In some companies, it's all about cash flow, and if you need to cut corners or bill some stuff early to make the numbers come out right, that's accepted. There are still (a few) companies that, in enlightened self-interest, deal straight with customers and suppliers. Unfortunately, it takes only one greedy executive at the top to turn an honest company into a bad one.

    20. Re:Google needs real competition by Chyeld · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Forgive me, but Microsoft was NEVER an underdog with noble goals. An underdog maybe, but one that was more than willing to use every dirty trick, legal, ethical, or not, to get where it is now.

      Even a cursory examination of the history of MSFT is enough to see that.

      It is not a condition of becoming a large powerful company that one becomes 'evil'. There are many corps out there that are big and powerful and still manage to be good 'citizens' rather robber barons. It's all in the culture your upper management builds and maintains for the company. I trust Google because everything I've seen from them shows that their culture really is about being good citizens in addition to making a profit. I don't trust Microsoft because everything I've seen from them is about being a cut-throat company willing to do anything they think they can get away with to achieve their goals.

    21. Re:Google needs real competition by SpamJunkie · · Score: 1

      When was Microsoft in Palo Alto?

    22. Re:Google needs real competition by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      "I know that, like Apple, they're a darling of the slashdot crowd. But unlike Apple, they are rapidly approaching a sort of online monopoly that we haven't seen before.
      Google's growth worries me"


      Yeah, but Google's C00L!!!!!!

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    23. Re:Google needs real competition by leandrod · · Score: 1

      Please learn History. Yes, there is a History of Computing, even with at least one academic journal.

      > True, but none of them took off.

      Not true. Sinclairs, TRS-80s and others were quite popular, and there was even at least one very popular OS, CP/M, used extensively by several vendors until MS copied it.

      > Computers only became affordable to most people when there was a large enough market created.

      Not true. Sinclairs and TRS-80s, not to mention Commodores and others, were cheaper than IBM PCs and their clones. It was just that IBM validated the market and some interfaces like the ISA bus and RLL disks. This would have happened to someone else without MS or with an honest MS, even the IBM PC itself with, say, the CP/M-86 which was even said to have been a better OS at the time, and by a more honest company.

      > With the introduction of Windows, a GUI based operating system that could be installed on non-apple computers, people could start using computers with out lots of training.

      GEM was there first, and even had ISVs. DesqView/X was more standards-compliant, and more capable too. Only they were either more honest, or lacking a monopoly to leverage.

      If you can't be bothered to research, please refrain from giving your impressions.

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    24. Re:Google needs real competition by baronben · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that Windows was the best operating system out there, or the first one to target consumers instead of research. I'm just saying that it was the most popular. Because it was the most popular, it allowed the consumer level PC market grow to the point to which scale economies start to kick in. Improved manufacturing techniques are one reason for the reason why we can get computers for 500 dollars now a days, the other reason is that many of the fixed costs of hardware production, the production plants, research and development, and so forth, can be spread over a larger number of units sold.

      Like I said before (but this time with research) Neal Stephenson wrote in "In the Beginning... Was the Command Line" (P.90) "Really the only way to make hardware cheap is to punch out an incredible number of copies of it, so that the unit cost eventually drops. For reasons already explained, Apple had no desire to see the cost of hardware drop. The only reason Torvalds had cheap hardware was Microsoft"

    25. Re:Google needs real competition by drakaan · · Score: 1

      Not insignificant, but taking a beating, yes. The news articles aren't about "Microsoft replaces 10,000 Linux seats with Windows", they're the other way 'round. Presumable, MS would be shouting it from the hilltops, if they had a situation like that pop up. Are you telling me Linux isn't gaining market share? (never mind, I know the answer) So, *why* are they gaining market share? Hmm...

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    26. Re:Google needs real competition by vrmlguy · · Score: 1
      Have you read John Varley's book, "Steel Beach"?

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    27. Re:Google needs real competition by leandrod · · Score: 1
      > I'm not saying that Windows was the best operating system out there, or the first one to target consumers instead of research. I'm just saying that it was the most popular. Because it was the most popular, it allowed the consumer level PC market grow to the point to which scale economies start to kick in. Improved manufacturing techniques are one reason for the reason why we can get computers for 500 dollars now a days

      Are you dense or what?

      As I said, computers of old were cheap without the need for MS Windows. Sinclairs and their like were even cheaper than US$ 500.00. Even when going graphical, GEM and DesqView/X needed less resources, as did MS's own OS/2 and MS/X, and now the X Window System-based OSs.

      > this time with research) Neal Stephenson wrote

      He's not a source. He's just a misguided commentator. So you ended up not doing research at all.

      > The only reason Torvalds had cheap hardware was Microsoft

      Unwarranted for reasons already given.

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  14. Sweet! by shdragon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a subscription for Keyhole. It was $35 for a year subscription, so a drop in price is welcome. The max speed I've EVER gotten off their server is 36k. Lag is especially horrible during the day. Hopefully this will mean an increase in speed & responsiveness.

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    1. Re:Sweet! by corsican · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I've got a subscription too; software came with my nvidia card. Seems like Keyhole 2 is even slower. But once it loads, there is nothing cooler. I like to turn on terrain and cruise up and down the front range of the Rockies (it's mostly hi-res).

      And the Mars server is pretty cool, too; you haven't lived until you've flown through Valles Marineris!

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    2. Re:Sweet! by shdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're right, ver2 does seem slower. What pisses me off more though is the damn nVidia logo that's always there. I understand for the trial version, but I paid for the subscription. Don't make me stare at nVidia's logo (esp. when I have an ATI card).

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  15. I can see it now... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Funny
    Millions of queries out of Maryland...

    http://maps.google.com/q=nuclear+OR+Cbiological+OR +chemical+weapons+-usa+-china%+-uk&sourceid=mozill a-search

  16. Smart move by Google.... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rest assured, Google has thought ahead. They do have geocoder type apps in the works and this is just a logical acquisition to make, ESPECIALLY when you're flush with cash (Don't forget their stock price has really climbed). After all, if you're going to use Google Local then you might want to provide a map.

    1. Re:Smart move by Google.... by YE · · Score: 1

      After all, if you're going to use Google Local then you might want to provide a map.

      A satellite photo != a map; it's much, much harder to read, although cuter.

    2. Re:Smart move by Google.... by blamanj · · Score: 1

      Nit. A company does not make money when its share price goes up. Only the people selling the shares.

      Of course,it's possible they have unsold shares lying about that they could sell, but they'd make money on that regardless of the change in price. It's just a question of how much.

      They are, of course, flush with cash from their IPO.

    3. Re:Smart move by Google.... by tabacco · · Score: 1

      Actually, since Keyhole can overlay street names on the actual streets and trace them with handy lines, it kind of is :)

  17. Google + Maps = goodness by xThinkx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can definitely see use for this, imagine googling your intended location "Jim's Steakhouse"

    Not only could google give you the directions, but a map, a menu, and an aerial photo. Sometimes aerial photos are AMAZINGLY helpful. You can see tons of things not on maps such as:

    • Where there's nearby parking (lots)
    • How many lanes on the hiway (turn lanes too)
    • Color of the building/surroundings, which really helps if you've never been there before
    • Nearby landmarks (streams, forests, trees, big buildings)
    I for one welcome our new google overlords.
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    1. Re:Google + Maps = goodness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You cannot welcome "our Google overlords", because in the future, all(including us) are Google and Google is all!

      Resistance is futile. Embrace Google.

    2. Re:Google + Maps = goodness by Johnny+Mozzarella · · Score: 1

      I imagine it will not be too long before more buildings, restaurants, theaters, etc. have their name painted on the roof so it can be seen in satellite images and by space tourists :)

    3. Re:Google + Maps = goodness by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      Not only that, but in addition to the directions from your location and a map, there's a chance they can offer a "virtual drive" so you can get a sense of the local landmarks (which is how most people navigate, even when they know the directions).

      I'm really stoked about this and can't wait for the combined services offering.

  18. whoooaaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, yes, it'd be nice if the app worked on linux/macosx, BUT this is one of the more impressive applications I've seen.

    It reminds me of the feeling I had the first time I used Mosaic a long time ago.

    Now, off to waste a few more hours with it...

  19. This is getting integrated into desktop search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your search results will be preceded by a way cool zoom in from orbit to the current location of your computer. The last thing you see before the file list is an image of you at your desktop. You now must be extra careful when you search for your porn. I suggest you now wait to drop your knickers and start your "session" until your search has completed and you have disconnected the network cable.

  20. show me how to get somewhere by i88i · · Score: 2, Interesting

    id really like to see google put out a whereis.com-like service, except on a global scale. It'd really help out tourists and your average lost person.

    Of course, that's prolly what GPS is for.

  21. Re:No Mac version by Timesprout · · Score: 1

    OMG dont say that BallResin, you could put the whole IPO and the future of Google in jeopardy if you continue not to subscribe to this service.

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  22. In other news.... by System.out.println() · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, The NYT have picked up on a story from Slashdot with "undeniable proof" that Google is planning to use RFID tags to take satellite photos of people.

    You read it here first.

    1. Re:In other news.... by mwlewis · · Score: 1

      I think 60 Minutes has a story about this for Sunday.

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  23. Re:No Mac version by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 5, Funny

    Screw that. If it doesn't readily work on OS X or through X11... I'm out.

    <google> Dang, there goes an entire percent of our market! I guess we'll just have to be happy with the 99% that's left running windows.</google>

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  24. Picasa plus Keyhole ??? by donert · · Score: 1

    Geotag my images from my GPS data, publish via picasa - sweet.

    Or, point to place on map with keyhole, query local images using google desktop to find those close by?

  25. Re:You can tell Beavis/Butthead don't work at Goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go away link spammer! Someone please mod this crap down. It contributes nothing to the discuission and was clearly posted just to get traffic for a pyramid scheme.

  26. Better, Free, Open source solutions available by netsavior · · Score: 2, Informative

    why use keyhole when NASA has a FREE and open source solution, which looks very similar WorldWind

    of course it only runs on windows... Open Source.Net

    it may not be as geared toward streetmaps, but I have found it useful for finding back roads and stuff.

    1. Re:Better, Free, Open source solutions available by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

      Well, how about because Keyhole is so much better that to call WorldWind better makes it clear you don't know what you are talking about? I think it is great that NASA has made WorldWind available and I hope it improves but there are at least three components to consider. The database of images requires a significant effort to acquire, organize, and host. Since satellite photos are only a fraction of what Keyhole offers (for higher resolution areas there are arial photos also) that is a significant challenge for NASA to meet. The second is the user interface which may be the most impressive part of Keyhole. It does a heck of a job providing the illusion of smooth flight from one place to another. Third, you have all the metadata from the provider, locally created by the user (bookmarks) and assembled by the community of users.

      In a comparison of the two products WorldWind is a barebones version with great potential and taxpayer funding. I'll probably explore WorldWind assuming it evolves but as an experience it doesn't really make it past the starting line. If you have a PC with a good graphics card and a broadband connection do yourself a favor and try the one week free trial of Keyhole and see what Keyhole users find so compelling.

  27. umm by imranius · · Score: 1, Interesting

    if only the images were real time! How could would it be to google for available parking spaces on the block

    1. Re:umm by Wojski · · Score: 1

      Next up for Google to purchase:

      A low orbit geosynchronous satellites company to make it all realtime.

  28. A new name for the site by gsasha · · Score: 0, Redundant

    www.geyhole.com
    Sounds good...

  29. Is it just me? by morriscat69 · · Score: 1

    Or is Google starting to look like Big Brother?

    1. Re:Is it just me? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately i need to agree with you. I would rather use non-profit solutions.

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  30. keyhole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    isnt keyhole the name of the series of american spy satellites? do the pictures come from them?

    1. Re:keyhole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, "asshole".

  31. i, for one by paxdan · · Score: 1

    i, for one, welcome our new satellite overgoogles

  32. They should buy anything they can. by ggruschow · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Who cares if it's irrelevant to their business?

    Buying other companies is a way good way to sell your overvalued stock without notifying everyone that you think that the current price is a great sale.

    They have a Trailing P/E of 225. That means their stock is trading for way way more than they're making. Compare it to someone like Amazon with ~1/5th of that, or GE with ~1/10th of that. Even their forward P/E (what they think they'll make in the future vs what their presently worth) is double Amazon's and triple GE's.

    1. Re:They should buy anything they can. by j0shwalk3r · · Score: 1

      You are just one of those downers that caused the Internet bubble to burst. You are not supposed to actually read the price to earnings ratio. Just look at the pretty graph and daydream about what color your next Mercedes will be.

      What's next, are you going to say that it would be a _bad_ idea to buy a whole bunch of advertising during the Super Bowl?

  33. Google creates it's own competition by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

    It may take a decade to surface, but I think it's self correcting: See Microsoft, Apple, and Linux.

    If Google really does have such a rich source of revenue, it makes lots of sense for a competitor to come up and try to take it from them. So the richer they get, the more likely someone will come to challenge them.

    Linux is of course slightly different because it wasn't born of profit, but born of the desire for a better product than Windows. Apple is a mix of both. We'll see what happens in the next 10 years and if my optimism is warranted.

    1. Re:Google creates it's own competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Linux is of course slightly different because it wasn't born of profit, but born of the desire for a better product than Windows.

      HAHAHA. And here I was all the time thinking it was started as a Minix clone. Considering Linux 0.01 was released September 1991, the MS product at that time to beat was Windows 3.0 (3.1 didn't ship until April 1992). I don't think that Windows was even in Linus' head at the time.

  34. Mpaquest by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember Mpaquest offering this sort of service for free a few years back. Anybody know what became of it? I remember getting an arial view of my apartment in Sunnyvale as well as a map to it.

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  35. Could be the Show of the Century by serutan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google seems like a volcano about to erupt. Or maybe a sleeping tiger waking up. Whatever their plans are, I'm sure we will be in for quite a few changes in how we use the web, as well as and an entertaining show as the Empire panics and responds.

    I repeat my earlier speculation that if Google releases its own Linux distro, with a custom desktop, integrated office suite and web functionality, they could end up Owning The World. Then maybe the sun would shine and the birds would sing, or would we all start hating Google and feeling sorry for MS?

    1. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Then maybe the sun would shine and the birds would sing, or would we all start hating Google and feeling sorry for MS?

      The latter. Look at how the slashdot crowd sees IBM as the "good guys" these days. They have the longest history of evil-doing in the computing world. I remember quite clearly the geek community cheering MS for sticking it to IBM, and crushing OS/2 before it could even leave the gate.

      Now that IBM seeks to exploit, err "embrace" linux, we act like they're being run by Care Bears or something.

      For the record, I am leery of IBMs involvement in Open Source, and I see their goals as ultimately "owning" linux, insomuch as they can control where and how it's used. Whether they can pull that off or not is anyones guess.

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    2. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would Google want to introduce and maintain a linux distribution? This makes no sense at all, it's like saying "if Google released a pasta maker, Ron Popeil would be shaking in his boots".

      Why would a business magically switch all their apps over to "Googlix" when options like Red Hat and SuSE have been available for years. AFAIK Google currently doesn't even support any end users on their software (i.e. if I had a problem with Google toolbar there's nobody that I can call to fix it).

      It just doesn't make any sense for them sink the money and effort into creating, maintaining, and supporting a distribution.

    3. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by xutopia · · Score: 1

      if it is linux wouldn't be too hard for anyone to modify the source code would it?

    4. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by SamSim · · Score: 1

      It's always cool to hate things which are massively popular :)

    5. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by bushidocoder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They're certainly in the right position to do it, but they need to smarten up FAST. All of their various products are related in theory, but from a technical perspective, there's no integration yet. There's no reason GMail and blogger aren't fully integrated yet, and no reason why Google Desktop Search can't include GMail and My Google News results.

      I know it takes time to integrate Picasa to Blogger to Google Desktop Search to GMail, but they need to hurry - Google has been successful because Yahoo and Microsoft failed to realize the profit potential of search, but they've wisen up to that. MSN and Yahoo searches that rival Google are probably less than 2 to 3 years out, simply due to the sheer size of their research budgets, and both companies have an existing network of integrated products that gives them substantial value that Google doesn't have yet.

      Microsoft plays catchup better than the Red Sox do - they may not be the most innovative bunch, but one thing you have to say about MS is that no company should feel safe when Microsoft has them in their sites. A brief history of Microsoft's battles with Sun, Borland, Apple, Sony and Netscape shows that when they stretch out their technical arm and marketing might, they can catch up to any product in two years time, and surpass in three unless the company they're chasing is moving forward like the very power of hell is bearing down on them.

    6. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be interesting, but kind of weird. For one thing, neither Google nor the companies they've acquired make Linux software. So it might be unlikely. I'd more likely guess they'll pull together some sort of application suite, comparable perhaps to Apple's "iLife", and I wouldn't be surprised if it were Windows only (at least to start).

    7. Re:Could be the Show of the Century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Integration is the key here. And how does the latest acquisition fits in the picture? Well let us fast forward three years from now and imagine this scenario: We have almost ubiquitious wireless internet coverage. We have a kind of mobile "Instant Communicator" or IC device that has Google branded instant messenger (GIC any1?), browser, gmail embedded in it. It has voice-recognition. and it has highspeed wireless internet connection enabled. So here you have a model of the future of "Instant Commerce" - another "IC". There you have it, instant access to all your communication needs through a single IC environment provided by Google Global Info-Communication Services. And they can reach you through location identification (without the help of RFID)and direct all the advertising to you throuh a very focused & personalized system. Instant Commerce through Instant Communicator IC/IC!!!

  36. at least reducing reliance on yahoo and mapquest by bigpat · · Score: 1

    I have no doubt that they will be looking to replace their current links to yahoo maps and mapquest when doing an address search.

    I look forward to see if they can improve online map services and reduce the costs. The competition in email services has already forced others to improve. I would expect more of the same from google, which is a good thing.

  37. Network performance by j.+andrew+rogers · · Score: 1, Troll
    If the most you've ever gotten is 36k, the reason is that your network connection is poor.

    Their networks are fiber connected at the core on a high-performance ring from Neopolitan Networks, so there is no shortage of capacity on their end. That network can handle an order of magnitude more bandwidth than is used to drive Keyhole without even breaking a sweat. I'm also on Neopolitan's network, and Keyhole performance is great. I suspect the bottleneck is closer to your end.

    1. Re:Network performance by shdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You mean you have better network performance being on the same provider as Keyhole? Gee, imagine that. My average speed to the rest of the world hovers around 300KB/s. My original comment was meant to be critical of their database, not necessarily their pipeline. Serving a multi TB database of image data to a large number of people is bound to cause slowdowns during "peak" hours. However, there are *many* posts in the keyhole forums regarding average speeds of around 40K/s which suggests either capping or database lag.

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    2. Re:Network performance by j.+andrew+rogers · · Score: 1

      Probably server overload then. They have multiple servers, and I imagine the load is not distributed evenly depending on the kind of customer you are. My original point, was more that there was no way they were network limited. Disk I/O might be another matter altogether depending on what systems you are connected to.

    3. Re:Network performance by shdragon · · Score: 1

      Viewing the other posts on the keyhole forums 40k/s seems to be the magic number that keeps popping up. This sugggests capping (for whatever reason). My hope is that google can bring some performance improvements to keyhole.

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  38. Aimless aquizitions? by RealAlaskan · · Score: 1
    ... Beyond that, Google does 'not have any announced plans regarding how this technology will integrate with our current products and services.'"

    This sounds a little scary. I hope they have some unannounced plans. I'd hate to think they're just blowing their cash pile on neat stuff, with no clue what they're going to do with it all.

    1. Re:Aimless aquizitions? by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Their plan seem obvious to me.

      Step 1) Buy up every content provider online
      Step 2) Profit

      There's only two steps! No ????? about it.

      When google searches only go to their geobasing solution, are they not essentially screwing MapQuest et al over a similar way that shipping IE with windows screws Netscape over?

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  39. Will we hate Google? by WD_40 · · Score: 1

    How long before Google becomes the next monster corporation that all the geeks love to hate, a la Microsoft?

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    1. Re:Will we hate Google? by jaguar5150 · · Score: 1

      I was beginning to wonder if anyone other than me was forseeing this sort of thing.

  40. It's not the flyover tech that has value... by gp310ad · · Score: 1

    It's the imagery.
    Keeping this stuff organized and easy to get at is expensive and a pain in the ass. Getting it all in the first place is no walk in the park either. Keeping it up to date...

    Wonder when google will begin subscription service for their internet archives?

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  41. I Can See It Now.... by CoyoteGuy · · Score: 1


    *down in the deep, dark google laboratories*

    What are we gonna do tonite Dr. Eric E. Schmidt?

    The same thing we do every night, Sergey Brin... Try to take over the world!!!

    *obligatory google themesong* -coming December 2004

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  42. On this map... by jaguar5150 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "X" Marks the gSpot

  43. Message from above by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, if any of you Earthlings can use the combined might of Google and Keyhole to find any signs of intelligent life on Earth, please contact our Mothership, because we've given up looking.

    Sincerely,
    The Greys.

  44. I saw this coming by lou2ser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some people have been playing around with Google's SMS Service http://www.google.com/sms/ and have found if you SMS "Directions" to 46645 you get a reply back "Looking for driving directions? Unfortunately this feature is not yet supported."

    Another undocumented feature is for flight times. Try SMSing flight WN 764 and you get the same reply.

    This post was inspired by http://www.engadget.com/entry/8423209320818510/

  45. Three and a half words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mmmmmmmmm.... Central Pivot Irrigation

  46. One step closer to the semantic web... by ProppaT · · Score: 1

    I can only guess how this might impact web searches in the future when, eventually, the semantic web comes to fruition. Imagine all the depth this could bring online encyclopedias. Imagine flying over citymaps and clicking an area to search for information on the city, current news, history, etc. I know it'd be awesome if I could do a fly over of NYC and click on certain areas to find information about resturaunts, etc., before I make my own trip. This is definately the wave of the future. The more and more I see of the technologies that Google buys into, the more I like the company. They actually have the balls to look towards the future and make investments without any forseeable return in revinue.

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    1. Re:One step closer to the semantic web... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It already does what you describe, at least as far as restaurants, hotels, schools, and things like that.

  47. When Google hits the Martian market, I'm golden by mmacdona86 · · Score: 1
    1. Re:When Google hits the Martian market, I'm golden by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

      Dude! That's cool!

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    2. Re:When Google hits the Martian market, I'm golden by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

      That's an intriguing web site you have (thanks for the link) but you should know that Keyhole already has Mars covered. When you log on you have the choice of viewing the Earth or Mars.

  48. Re:No Mac version by Ballresin · · Score: 1

    You live under a rock? Apple's market share is crawling back up fast.

    And I'm sure there's plenty of third-party products google would love to let advertise to all of the iPod-bearing %70 of all MP3 player owners that also are usually a bit more internet savvy than the average drip of water.

    You should keep better tabs on the tech world if you think Apple is a mere streak on the window.

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  49. All that's Left is eBay by Kones · · Score: 0, Troll

    If they purchase eBay, they can have the best search engine, mapping service, and auction tools anywhere, plus paypal to boot. They'd be unstoppable. Might even make an OS after that . . . he he . . . Bye bye yahoo!

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  50. awesome by micradigitalis · · Score: 1

    Since Google can see what I search for, and read all my email, it just makes sense that they can zoom in on my exact location anywhere on Earth.

  51. switzerland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://map.search.ch/ is a swiss map server with aerial photos, completely web based. client side, it is pure javascript and seems to work well on non-IE browsers, too.

  52. I doubt by diitante · · Score: 0

    I am the only one thinking that Google is doomed. It seemed like Google was going to be one of those "mainstays" of the internet that is so sorely needed. A real proof of technology as a whole. It is quickly slipping away! And why? Really, it boils down to greed. Too bad for us all. M

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  53. Re:You can tell Beavis/Butthead don't work at Goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How ironic that you whine about contributing nothing when you contribue nothing yourself

  54. Hum... by dark-br · · Score: 1

    Add this map stuff to the SMS search and I can find my p0rn for *REAL* anywhere!

    Search Results for "XXX teens"

    XXX Teens
    Red Light Street 69 3rd floor Cached Map Link ;)

  55. USA Photo Maps by Heem · · Score: 1

    In related technology, there is a very cool piece of software out there (free download) called Usa Photo Maps - This allows you to use Microsoft's terraserver photo maps as a base for your GPS tracks and numerous other GPS functions. Very cool for overlaying your tracks after a day of hiking or skiing, or even just out driving. Downsides are that it's windows only, and terraserver data is very old.

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  56. Seems potentially dangerous.. by jmcmunn · · Score: 1


    Picture this...you enter someone's name into google. Right now, you can most likely determine their address and phone number, which is already kind of invasive to their privacy, but no more so than a phone book.

    With the new technology, you could search on google, and then get a 3m resolution picture of the persons house and property. This would certainly make it easy to stalk someone (or plan some sort of assault on the house, T.P., burglary etc). What possible use could google have for this?

    Keyhole is a cool piece of software for anyone who has not checked it out.

    1. Re:Seems potentially dangerous.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is already possible even without google maps.. search someones name and find their address, then follow a link for maps and tada.. the only difference is it takes 2 or 3 clicks to get a satellite view, in the future it would probably be on the results page.

    2. Re:Seems potentially dangerous.. by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to be worried about this until the context adds are for hidden cameras, discount firearms, and defense attorneys.

  57. Re:No Mac version by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 1

    Strangely, the only thing I thought when reading this was "how long before there is a tag in the HTLM spec?"

  58. aw shit there it goes again... by billimad · · Score: 1

    >What about Worldwind?

    me: heard of worldwind?
    coworker: no, lets google it...

  59. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  60. Excellent planning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google is the TIA that never happened.

    If you need satellite pictures, how are you going to search for them? Through Google, perhaps, since it's the biggest and most beautiful. What if they censor some areas. You'll never know!

  61. Yahoo unhappy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Over in a boardroom somewhere, Terry Semel is swearing. "God Dammit," he says. "Now we have to buy a 3d GIS company too? I wish these guys would give us more notice about what we're going to be doing next; it plays hell with our planning process."

  62. GPS digital cameras by reovirus1 · · Score: 1

    Pretty soon most digital cameras will have GPS coordinates recorded with every pic. Could be some pretty cool uses.

  63. Great! Better than Mapquest for route learning by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    When I need to drive somewhere I haven't been before I fly over the route using Keyhole and note landmarks, buildings, etc. that a map just won't give you.

    I used this to get from Pheonix airport to the site of the legal conference I went to last August in no time.

    I hope they keep up their "Where in the World" contest, I'm four for four.

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  64. Flyovers + Search = ... by venomkid · · Score: 1

    Mapquest with downloadable video directions?

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  65. Imagine this: by rmmeyer · · Score: 2, Funny

    OK, so we start with a wearable computer. Stuff an NVidia in it. Get a chord type keyboard that's wearable. Display in glasses or the cool new lasers that draw on your retina. GPS jacked into computer. Keyhole maps.

    I can finally type 'whereami' and find out!

    This is all doable with current technology...

    If only it worked in Linux...

  66. Google ! - Keyhole ! - Privacy ! by bushboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I see it all now, there was never any FUD !

    Google are going to sell our surfing secrets to the terrorists ! - Hell, worse still, to the Iraqis ! - Oh NO, Wait, we ARE the Iraqis ! - arrghghgh - The Irainians, the Iranians, they have NUKES - arrhghghg ! - Help, save us George W ! - Arghgh !

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  67. Slower in v2 by ashitaka · · Score: 1

    I've noticed data downloading in V2 was noticeably slower than previous versions. Anywhere high-res used to come up in secnds and now the "Streaming.." status is getting as irritating as Real's "Buffering.."

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  68. Global satellite imagery by KavanaghNY · · Score: 1

    Earth Satellite Corporation offers a 15 meter resolution satellite product that competes with Keyhole. It's called GeoCover NaturalVue 2000. http://www.earthsat.com/ArcIMS/naturalvue

  69. Re:No Mac version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, I hear Workbench 3.0 is coming out for the Amiga. Better watch out!

  70. The live globe in Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, how long until we can do that thing where you can see an image of the world that's constantly being refreshed by various sources? You can start as high as you like, and then drill down until it's quite close and clear.

    All Google would have to do now is buy a bunch of webcam sites and tie them together by location. Link to various freeway cams and other sources and now you're really cooking.

  71. Google Local by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will be integrated with Google Local.

  72. Snow Crash by metachor · · Score: 1

    This sounds like the software "Earth" in Stephenson's Snow Crash, that let the user do a virtual fly-by of composite satellite photos, as well as scale closer and closer to a particular geographic location, getting more detailed maps.

  73. this seems to imply by carlcmc · · Score: 1

    that scotty is in the proverbial hades. as he is dead currently, beaming him 'up' would certainly be a feat. :-)

  74. Now maybe they'll fix the copy protection by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you try to upgrade from a 30-day demo version of Keyhole to a pay version by uninstalling the demo, buying a real, but different, version, and installing, you end up in a copy protection hell. Somewhere, Keyhole has stored that you've previously had a demo version, and the real version doesn't deal with that properly.

    Never did get it working on that machine; had to get a refund from Keyhole.

    1. Re:Now maybe they'll fix the copy protection by burns210 · · Score: 1

      regedit is your (unholy) friend, most likely. Most companies leave(or install and conveniently forget to remove, etc) a registry entry. Regedit(comes with Windows) can search for keywords (the company or product name, for instance) in your registry and remove them. ALWAYS backup(and burn to cd, and mail your cd to a non-existant Chinese address to ensure long mail trip time) your registry. ALWAYS.

      Now deleting that key should erase all backdoor reminders that the software was install. It could have been a hidden file in your filesystem, in which case either make sure to manually delete the C:\Program Files\SOFTWARE NAME\ folder. If, for some reason, the file is stored not there then you should boycott the company on principle(or just a get a refund).

      FInally, if thise were a Mac 10.x problem, I would tell you to go to you ~/library/preferences folder and delete the companies (or products) folder and then to double check by running a search from the finder by product and company name, just in case.

      Hope that helps your future problems

    2. Re:Now maybe they'll fix the copy protection by Animats · · Score: 1
      Registry keys intended to keep a demo version from being reused usually have some obscure name and are in some obscure place. Looking in the obvious places didn't help.

      It may even be a bug on the server side; the problem comes up during authentication. But I don't think so.

    3. Re:Now maybe they'll fix the copy protection by JoshRoss · · Score: 1

      ntregmon from systernals will let you see what keys and values any program reads or writes.

  75. Re:Mapquest by exhilaration · · Score: 1
    I was just looking for it and the only trace left appears to be this page which links to regular maps, not aerial photos.

    Looks like they quietly got rid of it, which is a shame because it was really accurate.

  76. Low Orbit vs. Geosynchronous by phliar · · Score: 1
    A low orbit geosynchronous ...
    Sorry, geosynchronous implies approx. 26,500 miles (22,500 miles above the surface) -- low earth orbit is 90min. The moon at 250,000 miles is in a 28 day orbit. Orbital distance determines orbital period.

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  77. Keyhole - Imagery Intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Keyhole comes from a military program for Satellite Imager used in hte Intelligence field.

  78. Celestia and ground level detail by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    This looks like an interesting product. What I would finder even better is to have Celestia be able to do something like this. That would mean you could navigate around space and then zoom into ground level detail.

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    1. Re:Celestia and ground level detail by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      What we need is a seamless transition from Celestia to Keyhole. Maybe Google should integrate both products and make a real solar system explorer.

      Man, if I could have had these toys when I was young....

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  79. Linux Client by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Linux client would be nice =)

  80. Windows only - any GIS for MacOS X & Linux? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    Just to say that looking at the system requirements, Windows needed. Sorry no Linux or MacOS X support :( Shame I would have been a little more tempted otherwise.

    On the subject, does anyone know of good GIS software (open source or commercial) for either MacOS X or Linux? At the moment all the ones I have seen are for MS-Widnows and I can't seem to find any affordable maps, that I could eventually write a program for.

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    1. Re:Windows only - any GIS for MacOS X & Linux? by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      GRASS just went to version 5.7. It is a decent package. My caveat about GIS software is that unless you have a firm background in geographical theory you better be careful with products like ArcGIS. Talk about a double-edged sword.

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  81. Re:No Mac version by steve_bryan · · Score: 1

    I realize that is meant at least in part as a jest. However, there are at least two observations that should be made. First the Mac is much more than one percent of the target market. Second, the Keyhole client program was developed with the Qt development system which is cross platform for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux. With the added resources that Keyhole has now they could probably afford to do the remaining work that would be needed to support the other platforms. So I don't think Mac users should despair quite yet. On the other hand, Keyhole and low cost HDTV were all I needed to justify getting an Athlon box to share my desk with Mac OS X.

  82. Google IS Skynet by BHS_Turf · · Score: 1

    Does this not scare anyone else? When Google becomes self-aware...

    1. Re:Google IS Skynet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It scares me more to think that Google becomes "other" aware. You know, when it knows everything about everyone and anyone can find out anything about you? Google is about 1/2 the way there, at least a couple people are starting to stand up and take notice, but of course by the time the shine goes out of /.s eyes, it'll be way too late...

  83. Where Do You Want To Search Today? by abb3w · · Score: 1
    Now all they need is a good off-shore data haven for the GMail cache, and they've got a good do-it-yourself spy service.

    How much for the latest Area 51 pics?

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  84. Text messaging applications by version5 · · Score: 1

    Since no-one else made the Google-text messaging connection yet, I'll weigh in with my own wild speculation:

    Since lots of phones can receive MMS messages these days, Google is going to provide geographic information along with your Google Local queries. And driving directions, too.

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  85. 1 foot resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My city's GIS/Aerial Photography website has higher resolution than that. Newer photos and data too. Plus it's free (relatively speaking)

  86. Re:No Mac version by burns210 · · Score: 1

    Isn't "crawling back up fast" an oxymoron? And yet, it seems to accurately portray Apple's marketshare perfectly... /me types this from a 12" powerbook, 1ghz, 768meg RAM.

  87. Re:No Mac version by xp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    NASA has a similar application. It's not as sleek as keyhole; on the other hand it's free.

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  88. keyhole bbs -- very cool stuff. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Just ran across this -- the keyhole bbs, where people are posting some very cool things they've found.

    /. away!

    keyhole bbs

  89. WMDs! by gtrubetskoy · · Score: 1


    Once the technology is integrated, you'll be able to find the WMD's and Osama in the middle east landscape by googling for it!

  90. What do people pay for this for? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

    I've played with Keyhole and World Wind before, and they are neat little interactive globes, but who is spending monthly fees on them and for what purpose?

  91. DONE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Read Slashdot
    2. Register every suggested address ...
    5. PROFIT!

  92. This Little image says it all.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:This Little image says it all.. by joedaviscpa · · Score: 1

      Talk about diversification...

  93. proprietary by The+Cisco+Kid · · Score: 1

    Keyhole's services appear to be offered only via a windows-only binary application.

    Eg, useless.

    Hopefully google will retrofit their services to be web-based, or provide a documented API, to remove the 'windows only' limitation.

  94. As if! by quarkscat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Cyberstalking only works with realtime
    data. The real KeyHole's (KH-9, etc.)
    are all owned by NSA. You be dreamin'.

  95. No Russia pix? by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

    I'm looking for a source of satellite and/or aerial photos of Russia, especially Kemerovo Oblast. I've googled for these several times on-and-off over the past 18 months, with no success. Keyhole seems to have pix of neighboring hot-spots, but none of Russia itself. Anyone able to help? Thanks.

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  96. Back On Topic by ComputerSherpa · · Score: 2, Informative
    I bought a one-year subscription to Keyhole NV for 30 bucks about a month ago. (End-of-month sale.) I've been absolutely thrilled with their service-- nothing provokes the "what a freaking awesome program" response (or the "wow, are you a stalker?" response) like asking someone for their address and then zooming in on their house from space. Then double-clicking on an item from the sidebar and hurtling across the continent to a shot of my dorm. I got my money's worth real fast.

    The only thing Keyhole lacks--well, besides a few more hi-res areas--is a path-finding function. There's a nice little distance-calculating function, but it's as-the-crow-flies. Keyhole will show you the streets, but it can't navigate you through them. I expect Google will change that.

    And regarding the rampant speculation on Google's possibly-evil future: Google has earned my trust in a way no other company, online or otherwise, has. Throughout their history, they've shown altruism, and proven that it works. (One wishes more companies would follow their example.) It is entirely possible that Google will turn on us at some point in the future, but until they do, I will continue to trust them and use Google as my search engine exclusively.

    Google has a spotless record so far. Until they act otherwise, I see no reason to assume they'll go bad.

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    1. Re:Back On Topic by ComputerSherpa · · Score: 1

      Sw33t! Just received my "we been bought" letter from Keyhole. Since I signed up before the acquisition, they're giving me three months of service free!

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  97. You don't have it at all: GMap.com by fprog · · Score: 0

    GMap.com there you go.
    Gmail.com
    Google.com
    Gnome.com [oops]

  98. Steel .vs Car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can 15 meter satellite data compete with a 3 inch per pixel aerial photo data streaming service? Not knocking EarthSat, but even if their data is great, it seems that these two styled of business are too different to "compete".

  99. GPS by JamesGecko · · Score: 1

    Cool! Soon Google will start to provide a new service! GPS (Google Positioning Service)

  100. Wrong, Search for the name but use ROT 13 first by infonography · · Score: 1
    Windows dirty little secret is to stick a bunch of stuff with the registry keys encoded with rot13, often just backup info but more likely the stuff that trips you up will be in those files. These files are at the end of the registry file. Uninstallers never get rid of it, they're not supposed to. This keeps you from reinstalling programs with expiration dates. Unless you kill off these files you can never install that 30 day trial again. There is a nice program called Editpad, goggle for it. It can convert to Rot13 any text.

    Try searching for this;

    xrlubyr

    it's keyhole in rot13.

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