Interesting take on my fixing of the article to read "same", as a regulation or law forces conformity. Ironic that you described practices in China, a communist state where conformity is law, present practicing the very action you espouse as evil. The dumping of industrial waste into the waterways, to such an extent that a freshwater species of Dolphin in now extinct.
The point here is not everything should, or can be enforced, regulated or legislated. Our government was designed to act in a balance of the known political forces of the time.
Having the Freedom to make mistakes for good or bad is what we are about. Stealing is never ok, and eventually people get pissed off enough to get off their arses and vote.
Don't like what you see? Find a soapbox and start campaigning. Our county gives you that power. If you fail to exercise that power then sit down, and STFU.
Don't confuse good government regulations with bad. No regulations are completely voluntary, if they were, we would not need to even mention them. No, the reason we have them is precisely because not everyone does the Same thing voluntarily. All effective regulations come with consequences for breaking them. There is no fundamental difference between a law and a regulation. Breaking a law amounts to the initiation of force against the parties that enacted the law. Responding to a threat with force is not immoral. The idea that all government regulations are bad is simply an argument put forth by those who do not want to be held responsible for the consequences of their actions.
Depends on how fast you are going, and how you are able to see. Just because we don't see a reflection in our visible wavelength, doesn't mean it isn't there.
How do we know this isn't our benevolent alien overlords conditioning the human race for the realities of navigating through the depth that is space and weeding out the ones not genetically predisposed to that capacity? Sure beats Centauri's old excaliber tricks.
All anti lock breaks do is keep the tires from locking up. That does nothing to prevent an accident if someone didn't give themselves sufficient stopping space. If anything, all that's accomplished in some cases is you lose the short warning screech that your about to be hit.
In cornering on the other hand, they can save you from sliding off the edge of a cliff.
A powerplant is much more efficient at using fuel to generate energy than a car engine. It can be highly tuned for maximum efficiency and since the pollution is produced at one spot it can be scrubbed, collected, and dealt with.
You're right in that Pollutants *Can* be scrubbed and collected. This is possible. Cars *Can* also be cleaner, but rarely can anybody spend the money to make that happen. The model of a corporation is to make a profit, by whatever means they can get away with. There will have to be inspectors to check for compliance with whatever regulations manages to survive the legislative process, etc. Our recent debacle in the Gulf in regards to BP shows us just how effective those regulations and regulators are.
A car has wildly-varying loads... As far as the new usage patterns they will be discovered, modeled, and the generators will be tuned to those new patterns.
The power companies do have experience in predicting usage patterns, and do seem fairly competent at it. but this statement tells me you only have book knowledge about power generation. Even then, that much is doubtful.
This is not a Troll, nor was any of these posts meant to be. There is a clear difference between what people want to believe, vs what reality will manifest. My intentions here are to pose the questions as though we had already done all that's proposed. Once the dust has settled and all vehicles are electric, will we honestly be better off? Lets think this through. There doesn't seem to be enough of that going around lately.
Are we really solving global warming by transferring vehicular energy consumption to the powergrid? All we are doing is moving the emissions from the tailpipe of a car to the smokestack of a powerplant. Where concentrated pollutants can have a far more devastating effect on a smaller regional area. A smaller regional area that is, For as long as demand remains relatively low. What's the efficiency of producing electricity to charge cars and the amount of Co2 expelled by the powerplant vs smaller as needed usage?
Remember that power generation isn't produced exactly as needed. Engineers guesstimate what the peak usage is going to be and produce power up to that point. Charging cars will make the changes in requirements even more random and extreme. Regardless if all available power is used or not those generators will be turning at whatever rpm it is they will turn, to produce x amount of power, even if y is only being used at the time. This is waste Co2, Wasted fuel, Time on the generators, payroll for the engineers to run and maintain, etc, etc, etc..
I had to leave California, because it was too expensive to live anywhere near the jobs. My power bill was a grand a month in Morgan Hill Ca, it was $400 a month in any other state ( Tested Florida, and now Texas ) We won't go back unless we make 6 digits or more. And we expect that's just to break even.
His point is well made in your own post however, and I will cite but one of the most obvious example you made.
Rape is wrong
And illegal in Africa, where it's presently used as a weapon of war.
The law there has become so widely disregarded that it has become completely unenforceable.
So many people confuse education with intelligence. Education will *amplify* intelligence no doubt. But having done 4 years of pushing paper only means your good at pushing paper. It does *not* promise talent. in fact, most talent is driven from individuals during college. The corporate workplace wants and needs drones.
It'd be really Kewl if luna turned out to be an R64, then we'd be set!
- Dan.
This is what happens when physicists get stoned during a thunder storm...
- Dan.
My Ex-Wife could tell you about large bags,
Now has anyone seen my boat?
- Dan.
Whats wrong with twenty-eight year olds?
There's twenty of them...
And the lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin, Etc.
- Dan.
One of the most honest to god good responses I have ever read, and I agree completely as well.
Perhaps there is hope, but it's a faint glimmer
- Dan.
Interesting take on my fixing of the article to read "same", as a regulation or law forces conformity. Ironic that you described practices in China, a communist state where conformity is law, present practicing the very action you espouse as evil. The dumping of industrial waste into the waterways, to such an extent that a freshwater species of Dolphin in now extinct.
The point here is not everything should, or can be enforced, regulated or legislated. Our government was designed to act in a balance of the known political forces of the time.
Having the Freedom to make mistakes for good or bad is what we are about. Stealing is never ok, and eventually people get pissed off enough to get off their arses and vote.
Don't like what you see? Find a soapbox and start campaigning. Our county gives you that power. If you fail to exercise that power then sit down, and STFU.
- Dan.
/Signed.
- Dan.
Don't confuse good government regulations with bad. No regulations are completely voluntary, if they were, we would not need to even mention them. No, the reason we have them is precisely because not everyone does the Same thing voluntarily. All effective regulations come with consequences for breaking them. There is no fundamental difference between a law and a regulation. Breaking a law amounts to the initiation of force against the parties that enacted the law. Responding to a threat with force is not immoral. The idea that all government regulations are bad is simply an argument put forth by those who do not want to be held responsible for the consequences of their actions.
Let me fix that for you..
At this point it's easily arguable that we are assuming we know much more than we actually do.
Looks like it's still tricycles and lemonade stands for us.
- Dan.
Depends on how fast you are going, and how you are able to see. Just because we don't see a reflection in our visible wavelength, doesn't mean it isn't there.
- Dan.
How do we know this isn't our benevolent alien overlords conditioning the human race for the realities of navigating through the depth that is space and weeding out the ones not genetically predisposed to that capacity? Sure beats Centauri's old excaliber tricks.
-Dan.
Lets get off the "new" and "far from mature" BS. It's been here since the 50's that I know of, as 20 years before I was born and I am 2 years from 40.
Yakity Yakity and all that crotchety old shit. I was watching it on MTV when MTV was just hard rock and nothing else.
- Dan.
Since you seem to be the expert, can you please give us that equation so the rest of us can perform said simple task?
- Dan.
Not to mention, made by the cheapest bidder...
- Dan.
Point and point,
It's a sad state that most legislation is required to compensate for the panic stricken / inattentive population.
Just goes to prove that society is the bane of evolution, as stupidity is no longer fatal.
- Dan.
All anti lock breaks do is keep the tires from locking up. That does nothing to prevent an accident if someone didn't give themselves sufficient stopping space. If anything, all that's accomplished in some cases is you lose the short warning screech that your about to be hit.
In cornering on the other hand, they can save you from sliding off the edge of a cliff.
Which accident is more common?
- Dan.
Can we say "Autorun"?
- Dan.
A powerplant is much more efficient at using fuel to generate energy than a car engine. It can be highly tuned for maximum efficiency and since the pollution is produced at one spot it can be scrubbed, collected, and dealt with.
You're right in that Pollutants *Can* be scrubbed and collected. This is possible. Cars *Can* also be cleaner, but rarely can anybody spend the money to make that happen. The model of a corporation is to make a profit, by whatever means they can get away with. There will have to be inspectors to check for compliance with whatever regulations manages to survive the legislative process, etc. Our recent debacle in the Gulf in regards to BP shows us just how effective those regulations and regulators are.
A car has wildly-varying loads ... As far as the new usage patterns they will be discovered, modeled, and the generators will be tuned to those new patterns.
The power companies do have experience in predicting usage patterns, and do seem fairly competent at it. but this statement tells me you only have book knowledge about power generation. Even then, that much is doubtful.
This is not a Troll, nor was any of these posts meant to be. There is a clear difference between what people want to believe, vs what reality will manifest. My intentions here are to pose the questions as though we had already done all that's proposed. Once the dust has settled and all vehicles are electric, will we honestly be better off? Lets think this through. There doesn't seem to be enough of that going around lately.
- Dan.
Exactly correct.
I lived there, and had to leave because of this.
- Dan.
Are we really solving global warming by transferring vehicular energy consumption to the powergrid? All we are doing is moving the emissions from the tailpipe of a car to the smokestack of a powerplant. Where concentrated pollutants can have a far more devastating effect on a smaller regional area. A smaller regional area that is, For as long as demand remains relatively low. What's the efficiency of producing electricity to charge cars and the amount of Co2 expelled by the powerplant vs smaller as needed usage?
Remember that power generation isn't produced exactly as needed. Engineers guesstimate what the peak usage is going to be and produce power up to that point. Charging cars will make the changes in requirements even more random and extreme. Regardless if all available power is used or not those generators will be turning at whatever rpm it is they will turn, to produce x amount of power, even if y is only being used at the time. This is waste Co2, Wasted fuel, Time on the generators, payroll for the engineers to run and maintain, etc, etc, etc..
I had to leave California, because it was too expensive to live anywhere near the jobs. My power bill was a grand a month in Morgan Hill Ca, it was $400 a month in any other state ( Tested Florida, and now Texas ) We won't go back unless we make 6 digits or more. And we expect that's just to break even.
And here is the Executive Order
Read between the lines:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/11/17/executive-order-fundamental-principles-and-policymaking-criteria-partner
- Dan.
Welcome to ACTA in America.
A Google search reveals they have taken down sites selling everything from Jerseys to Sunglasses,
They either moved to early, or the US has already approved it
- Dan.
His point is well made in your own post however, and I will cite but one of the most obvious example you made.
Rape is wrong
And illegal in Africa, where it's presently used as a weapon of war.
The law there has become so widely disregarded that it has become completely unenforceable.
- Dan.
Hogwash.
So many people confuse education with intelligence. Education will *amplify* intelligence no doubt. But having done 4 years of pushing paper only means your good at pushing paper. It does *not* promise talent. in fact, most talent is driven from individuals during college. The corporate workplace wants and needs drones.
End Rant.
- Dan.
Me: "TomTom, course to Orbit Earth"
...Turn Left,
...Turn Left,
TomTom:Turn Left,
- Dan.