even the entry-level MBP is what, 1200 or so ? It costs as much as two similar-spec PC laptops
Here are the specs of that $1200 13" MBP.
Take a look. Now... show us all this $600 laptop with similar specs.
This notion that Apple's hardware is outrageously overpriced has been shown to be false time and again. Yes, there are $600 laptops, and they may match proc and RAM of Apple's hw, maybe even more RAM or more HD... but the specifications will not even be close. As with other hw manufacturers, so it is even with Apple: the margins are pretty thin. Once you actually match the specifications (and not just ignore the ones you don't like as though they were worthless), the difference in price will be less than $100.
You also may want to factor in resell value, as Apple laptops are famous (notorious) for retaining obscene value many years later. You want to tell me why a 12" 1-1.5Ghz PowerPC Powerbook Apple stopped making in 2006 still sees average sales around $200? In this case, you can match the specs and maybe get 3 or 4 used PC laptops from 2003-6 for $200. You can... but you know as well as I they're going to be junk (unless they're a tank of a Thinkpad).
Someone please mod parent up. I'll never understand why all those not interested in Apple flock to the Apple summaries to post the same BS over and over. What the Hell is wrong with them? Are they compulsive? Or did an iPod kill their dog or something? You know what I do when I'm not interested in something? Well, whatever it is, it certainly is not taking the time to complain about it.
You certainly don't want the next blockbuster film crew coming in and trashing a park just because the courts ruled that Jonathan and his friends could have a laugh.
I absolutely think everyone WOULD want the next blockbuster film crew coming in and... throwing money around like they usually do. Big movie productions have big money, and they spread it around wherever they work. Best thing that could possibly ever happen to that park, or any park, is the next big blockbuster gets shot there. They'll pay several times the going rate for the cleanup. Maybe they'll even build a nice, luxurious lodge for the film, and then just give it to the park when their done. That's how Hollywood rolls.
Actually... there's two. Like with Elvis, there is the young Mr. David Attenborough and the aged Sir David Attenborough. They are quite different, I think... further apart than Sir Alec Guinness' Obiwan and Ewen McGregor's Obiwan.
Not sure how Oprah fit into the Life producers' vision... she does have talent, though, had she not been a talk show diva she could have had a briliant acting career I think. Quite obviously, the producers of Planet Earth picked narrators based on credentials: Attenborough, of course, the brilliant naturalist; and Weaver, the defacto authority in xenomorphic biology. Attenborough's narration, however, was even better when he was younger. I've watched Life on Earth about 50 times. He's mesmerizing... but in a good way. Weaver's narration is best when she is on edge or maybe a little pissed off... which didn't really come out so well without the emotion in the stateside version of PE.
I'm glad you pointed this out. I found the summary... well, frankly, offensive. Hardly any of the sexists I know are German, and I am certainly not! Its beginning to seem like one can't be hardly misogynistic these days without being accused of being German. We're sexist, not savages!
A computer/tablet can't teach as well as a good or great teacher (as the students at Waldorf likely have access to), but in a large percentage of cases around the country, where the teachers are in fact poor, computers and tablets can make a tremendous difference.
Yeah, I disagree completely. I think the Waldorf ideals are completely incorrect... however, they are teaching more than the academic findamentals, and a computer can't teach that. The computer, paired with a curious child with a reasonable attention span, with even 15 yr old software, IMO, competes fairly with most teachers, regarding teaching things like vocabulary, grammer, reading, math tables... pretty much anything that is specifically taught in education. But a computer won't teach a child what behavior is acceptable, neither by example nor instruction, nor be able to interpret specific ordinary needs any child might have, nor make the accustom to other children or adults. So Waldorf-style education will be superior because an average child that learns early how to socialize will succeed over the genius child that can't every single day of the week.
"Understanding the chips..." == NOT COMPUTER SCIENCE... that's Computer Engineering/Electrical Engineering. You don't need a computer to do computer science. In fact, CS has little, if anything, to do with the machines we call computers. Computer Science relates to physical computers the same way Mathematics relates to physical computers... but only because Computer Science is actually Mathematics.
You absolutely CAN study algorithms without a formal [programming] language. Ask yourself... what is an algorithm? What language is it in? If you can communicate with the spoken/written variety of natural language, you can study algorithms with no knowledge of any formal [programming] language.
Programming is a huge part of Computer Science. It's not all of it, but most of the remaining parts of CS which aren't directly programming related are in support of programming.
You're almost, but not quite, entirely incorrect. Read the GP's post. Believe it. Computer Science is not programming. Programming is programming... Computer Science is Mathematics.
Here... let's use a metaphor to show how you have flubbed up the meanings of words:
Construction is a huge part of Engineering. It's not all of it, but most of the remaining parts of Engineering which aren't directly construction related are in support of construction.
Now, if you can't see your folly, chances are you are a programmer. A computer scientist would never make that mistake.
I don't think that's quite true. Apple has initiated all of this and Samsung has retaliated quite reluctantly. I have been wondering why Samsung didn't launch this action months ago. Samsung doesn't seem to want to stifle competition, because they make money from phones Apple sells.
I think Apple's initial claim was valid... its obvious the Samsung product in question would never have existed if not for iPhone. Don't get caught up over rectangles, Samsung is clearly and without any duplicity whatsoever attempting to take advantage of iPhone's popularity by releasing a product that superficially looks identical to Apple's. You seem to be of the opinion "I'm suing you because you're suing me" is a perfectly valid legal strategy. If it is, then sure... Samsung is just doing what it can not to get caught under the deadly wheels of Apple's crushing anti-competitive practices as it chews up and digests industrial giants on its way to world domination.
Point is that the "Apple stole from Xerox" thing is basically a myth.
It is that on two fronts. When defending MS, Microsoft apologists will often bring up this history. But Apple didn't just change the shading themes, move a few things around, and release the result and call it their own, like Microsoft basically did with Windows. The Macintosh team learned from innovations at Xerox PARC, used some of them, re-designed others, and innovated a significant number of original early gui-desktop concepts. The Macintosh desktop did not come from Xerox. It is a ridiculous unfounded accusation from those that are ignorant of history.
Is there a prize for memorizing, and then reciting all 10 trillion digits?
I was always amazed by those contests and contestants... but it made me wonder... wouldn't it just be easier to actually calculate pi in your head than memorize a million numbers?
sure, in base-10... I wonder if there are in other bases. And I wonder what the world would be like in base-Pi, where calculating Pi was literally as easy as counting to 1.
if I could come up with a 'Hackintosh' with OS X, I'd be so happy,' claims one audio professional."
Why the Hell would an audio professional complain? He has no valid grievance against Apple. Video pros, I understand their angst. But what did Apple ever do to wrong the audio pro? Mac OS X and the Mac it runs on is the least expensive and most versitile and essential tool in the audio pro's studio! Now... the audio pro might be pissy at Digidesign for one reason or another. But if they're upset about something in Logic... I suggest they try Ardour.
I'm not gonna argue with you... I think evolution looks pretty clear, speaking for myself, I'd never let my children go to any district that took ID seriously. I'm just pointing out a relatively new trend, say in the last 40 or so years, in previously very hard atheistic science circles... that as these very smart and well educated scientists get older, see more and learn more... they are no longer atheist. They say they don't know.
Well, not talking about ID, which is a specific idea with an agenda, but many legitamate scientists have come to the belief that some things are just too... perfect. Some observable things are just... too beautiful NOT to have been... conceived. The trend has been lightly documented... The New Story of Science is just one of a number of books concerning these non-scientific ideas popping up in popular science... that sort of documents how some scientists moved from atheism to agnosticism. The book is about science, not religion.
yeah... I guess its just enourmous happy coincidence then... because Yucca was only chosen because the central storage idea was a hot potato... no one wants the waste. Yucca was the only location left after the nimby's said what they say. Yucca, and the whole plan, is bullshit. And then they crafted the science to suit their needs. And then the pro-nukers jumped on board the tiny little boat of an idea this was. Shame on the pro-nukers! They have enough wits to have seen that Yucca was sort of a sacrificial cow... and they ate it up anyway. This tarnishes credibility of pro-nukers arguments, who seemed to be over-enthusiastic about the Yucca plan because it gave them what they want, which is to say it deluded them into believing "Well, now we can build all the dirty fission plants we want!"... all arguments resting on the bullshit lies politicians laid before them. How embarassing for pro-nukers! And look! ---^ they won't let it go! Even after it is revealed that they were deceived, they STILL believe the deception! wow.
If our security really is that weak.... why the hell are we worried about terrorists taking over civilian aircraft still when they could remotely take over a bunch of armed drones and attack military and civilian targets with our own advanced weaponry?
I think it may be more difficult to get the good PS3 controllers in the desert, and even when they do, the sand just wreaks havok on them.
Ha! You guys are so gullible! Don't you see? Its feints within feints! The 24th is a honeytrap! While the cyber enemies scramble to infiltrate the vulnerable 24th Air Force's non-existant NOC, our 1337 cyber-commandos are... you guessed it, in their base killing their doods. Brilliant! That's why they refer to the U.S.A.F. as "the Thinkers." Feints within feints!! w00t!
When you restore your iDevice, that's exactly what you're doing, imaging. Apple has tools to help with mass deployment. I've seen screens... you build the image by checking off apps and permissions... its not all that much unlike PwnageTool, really. I wish I had GP's job... sounds like if you work it right, you have control over everything you need.
iOS has the same problem, I manage 40 iPads and will be getting 26 more iPod Touches in that mix, they are a pain in the ass to manage, image and deploy.
Care to expand a little on your frustrations? Sounds more like the task was dumped on you, on top of other previous responsibilities, and because it takes time and you would rather be doing something else, "they are a pain in the ass to manage, image and deploy."
With the right console and software tools, and given the time needed, these devices would seem a dream to other administrators: once deployed, they go out... and never come back. Just how often are you having to support bone fide technical issues, apart from training new users? How many iDevices come back to you because they get spontaneously reconfigured, or get a virus, or, over time, get sluggish and unusable?
I think you may want to step back from the tasks for a minute, remove personal bias, and attempt to be objective. They're just computers, don't take it personally that they work under a paradigm that you are not comfortable with yet.
And that's a federal DA speaking, like I get he convicts pedos and murders and stuff, but have you ever heard of justice and ethics dude? Your DA score card isn't worth 1/1000 of a human life.
The way I see it, prosecutors forget the reason why they are immune from prosecution. Our Founding Fathers intentionally stacked the deck against the government to reduce the possibility of the innocent being convicted. But they gave prosecutors this ultimate power, this reminder, their immunity, which is intended so that they can afford to be just without external influence like politics, bribery, extortion, or prosecution. Most prosecutors at all levels seem to regard their immunity as though they were a Chicago Untouchable... above the law. They might get caught doing stuff wrong, using improper tactics or what have you, but they never ever are held accountable for it, so there's nothing stopping them from continuing certain practices because more often than not, they get away with it, whatever it is, and win their cases.
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even the entry-level MBP is what, 1200 or so ? It costs as much as two similar-spec PC laptops
Here are the specs of that $1200 13" MBP.
Take a look. Now... show us all this $600 laptop with similar specs.
This notion that Apple's hardware is outrageously overpriced has been shown to be false time and again. Yes, there are $600 laptops, and they may match proc and RAM of Apple's hw, maybe even more RAM or more HD... but the specifications will not even be close. As with other hw manufacturers, so it is even with Apple: the margins are pretty thin. Once you actually match the specifications (and not just ignore the ones you don't like as though they were worthless), the difference in price will be less than $100.
You also may want to factor in resell value, as Apple laptops are famous (notorious) for retaining obscene value many years later. You want to tell me why a 12" 1-1.5Ghz PowerPC Powerbook Apple stopped making in 2006 still sees average sales around $200? In this case, you can match the specs and maybe get 3 or 4 used PC laptops from 2003-6 for $200. You can... but you know as well as I they're going to be junk (unless they're a tank of a Thinkpad).
The writing has been on the wall for PowerPC since before Apple jumped to Intel, but Hyperion and some of the Amiga community still want to believe.
There are still a few PPC iDevices that remain popular.
Someone please mod parent up. I'll never understand why all those not interested in Apple flock to the Apple summaries to post the same BS over and over. What the Hell is wrong with them? Are they compulsive? Or did an iPod kill their dog or something? You know what I do when I'm not interested in something? Well, whatever it is, it certainly is not taking the time to complain about it.
You certainly don't want the next blockbuster film crew coming in and trashing a park just because the courts ruled that Jonathan and his friends could have a laugh.
I absolutely think everyone WOULD want the next blockbuster film crew coming in and... throwing money around like they usually do. Big movie productions have big money, and they spread it around wherever they work. Best thing that could possibly ever happen to that park, or any park, is the next big blockbuster gets shot there. They'll pay several times the going rate for the cleanup. Maybe they'll even build a nice, luxurious lodge for the film, and then just give it to the park when their done. That's how Hollywood rolls.
Actually... there's two. Like with Elvis, there is the young Mr. David Attenborough and the aged Sir David Attenborough. They are quite different, I think... further apart than Sir Alec Guinness' Obiwan and Ewen McGregor's Obiwan.
Not sure how Oprah fit into the Life producers' vision... she does have talent, though, had she not been a talk show diva she could have had a briliant acting career I think. Quite obviously, the producers of Planet Earth picked narrators based on credentials: Attenborough, of course, the brilliant naturalist; and Weaver, the defacto authority in xenomorphic biology. Attenborough's narration, however, was even better when he was younger. I've watched Life on Earth about 50 times. He's mesmerizing... but in a good way. Weaver's narration is best when she is on edge or maybe a little pissed off... which didn't really come out so well without the emotion in the stateside version of PE.
I'm glad you pointed this out. I found the summary... well, frankly, offensive. Hardly any of the sexists I know are German, and I am certainly not! Its beginning to seem like one can't be hardly misogynistic these days without being accused of being German. We're sexist, not savages!
A computer/tablet can't teach as well as a good or great teacher (as the students at Waldorf likely have access to), but in a large percentage of cases around the country, where the teachers are in fact poor, computers and tablets can make a tremendous difference.
Yeah, I disagree completely. I think the Waldorf ideals are completely incorrect... however, they are teaching more than the academic findamentals, and a computer can't teach that. The computer, paired with a curious child with a reasonable attention span, with even 15 yr old software, IMO, competes fairly with most teachers, regarding teaching things like vocabulary, grammer, reading, math tables... pretty much anything that is specifically taught in education. But a computer won't teach a child what behavior is acceptable, neither by example nor instruction, nor be able to interpret specific ordinary needs any child might have, nor make the accustom to other children or adults. So Waldorf-style education will be superior because an average child that learns early how to socialize will succeed over the genius child that can't every single day of the week.
All three of you are wrong, GGP, GP, & P.
"Understanding the chips..." == NOT COMPUTER SCIENCE... that's Computer Engineering/Electrical Engineering. You don't need a computer to do computer science. In fact, CS has little, if anything, to do with the machines we call computers. Computer Science relates to physical computers the same way Mathematics relates to physical computers... but only because Computer Science is actually Mathematics.
You absolutely CAN study algorithms without a formal [programming] language. Ask yourself... what is an algorithm? What language is it in? If you can communicate with the spoken/written variety of natural language, you can study algorithms with no knowledge of any formal [programming] language.
Programming is a huge part of Computer Science. It's not all of it, but most of the remaining parts of CS which aren't directly programming related are in support of programming.
You're almost, but not quite, entirely incorrect. Read the GP's post. Believe it. Computer Science is not programming. Programming is programming... Computer Science is Mathematics.
Here... let's use a metaphor to show how you have flubbed up the meanings of words:
Construction is a huge part of Engineering. It's not all of it, but most of the remaining parts of Engineering which aren't directly construction related are in support of construction.
Now, if you can't see your folly, chances are you are a programmer. A computer scientist would never make that mistake.
I don't think that's quite true. Apple has initiated all of this and Samsung has retaliated quite reluctantly. I have been wondering why Samsung didn't launch this action months ago. Samsung doesn't seem to want to stifle competition, because they make money from phones Apple sells.
I think Apple's initial claim was valid... its obvious the Samsung product in question would never have existed if not for iPhone. Don't get caught up over rectangles, Samsung is clearly and without any duplicity whatsoever attempting to take advantage of iPhone's popularity by releasing a product that superficially looks identical to Apple's. You seem to be of the opinion "I'm suing you because you're suing me" is a perfectly valid legal strategy. If it is, then sure... Samsung is just doing what it can not to get caught under the deadly wheels of Apple's crushing anti-competitive practices as it chews up and digests industrial giants on its way to world domination.
Point is that the "Apple stole from Xerox" thing is basically a myth.
It is that on two fronts. When defending MS, Microsoft apologists will often bring up this history. But Apple didn't just change the shading themes, move a few things around, and release the result and call it their own, like Microsoft basically did with Windows. The Macintosh team learned from innovations at Xerox PARC, used some of them, re-designed others, and innovated a significant number of original early gui-desktop concepts. The Macintosh desktop did not come from Xerox. It is a ridiculous unfounded accusation from those that are ignorant of history.
I bet a more useful base would be base-pi/10 or even base-3pi/4 or base-10^pi
Is there a prize for memorizing, and then reciting all 10 trillion digits?
I was always amazed by those contests and contestants... but it made me wonder... wouldn't it just be easier to actually calculate pi in your head than memorize a million numbers?
sure, in base-10... I wonder if there are in other bases. And I wonder what the world would be like in base-Pi, where calculating Pi was literally as easy as counting to 1.
if I could come up with a 'Hackintosh' with OS X, I'd be so happy,' claims one audio professional."
Why the Hell would an audio professional complain? He has no valid grievance against Apple. Video pros, I understand their angst. But what did Apple ever do to wrong the audio pro? Mac OS X and the Mac it runs on is the least expensive and most versitile and essential tool in the audio pro's studio! Now... the audio pro might be pissy at Digidesign for one reason or another. But if they're upset about something in Logic... I suggest they try Ardour.
I'm not gonna argue with you... I think evolution looks pretty clear, speaking for myself, I'd never let my children go to any district that took ID seriously. I'm just pointing out a relatively new trend, say in the last 40 or so years, in previously very hard atheistic science circles... that as these very smart and well educated scientists get older, see more and learn more... they are no longer atheist. They say they don't know.
Well, not talking about ID, which is a specific idea with an agenda, but many legitamate scientists have come to the belief that some things are just too ... perfect. Some observable things are just... too beautiful NOT to have been ... conceived. The trend has been lightly documented... The New Story of Science is just one of a number of books concerning these non-scientific ideas popping up in popular science... that sort of documents how some scientists moved from atheism to agnosticism. The book is about science, not religion.
yeah... I guess its just enourmous happy coincidence then... because Yucca was only chosen because the central storage idea was a hot potato... no one wants the waste. Yucca was the only location left after the nimby's said what they say. Yucca, and the whole plan, is bullshit. And then they crafted the science to suit their needs. And then the pro-nukers jumped on board the tiny little boat of an idea this was. Shame on the pro-nukers! They have enough wits to have seen that Yucca was sort of a sacrificial cow... and they ate it up anyway. This tarnishes credibility of pro-nukers arguments, who seemed to be over-enthusiastic about the Yucca plan because it gave them what they want, which is to say it deluded them into believing "Well, now we can build all the dirty fission plants we want!"... all arguments resting on the bullshit lies politicians laid before them. How embarassing for pro-nukers! And look! ---^ they won't let it go! Even after it is revealed that they were deceived, they STILL believe the deception! wow.
If our security really is that weak.... why the hell are we worried about terrorists taking over civilian aircraft still when they could remotely take over a bunch of armed drones and attack military and civilian targets with our own advanced weaponry?
I think it may be more difficult to get the good PS3 controllers in the desert, and even when they do, the sand just wreaks havok on them.
Ha! You guys are so gullible! Don't you see? Its feints within feints! The 24th is a honeytrap! While the cyber enemies scramble to infiltrate the vulnerable 24th Air Force's non-existant NOC, our 1337 cyber-commandos are... you guessed it, in their base killing their doods. Brilliant! That's why they refer to the U.S.A.F. as "the Thinkers." Feints within feints!! w00t!
How do they prove successful? Do Cloned Drug-Sniffing Dogs simply taste better?
Well played, Sir.
When you restore your iDevice, that's exactly what you're doing, imaging. Apple has tools to help with mass deployment. I've seen screens... you build the image by checking off apps and permissions... its not all that much unlike PwnageTool, really. I wish I had GP's job... sounds like if you work it right, you have control over everything you need.
iOS has the same problem, I manage 40 iPads and will be getting 26 more iPod Touches in that mix, they are a pain in the ass to manage, image and deploy.
Care to expand a little on your frustrations? Sounds more like the task was dumped on you, on top of other previous responsibilities, and because it takes time and you would rather be doing something else, "they are a pain in the ass to manage, image and deploy."
With the right console and software tools, and given the time needed, these devices would seem a dream to other administrators: once deployed, they go out... and never come back. Just how often are you having to support bone fide technical issues, apart from training new users? How many iDevices come back to you because they get spontaneously reconfigured, or get a virus, or, over time, get sluggish and unusable?
I think you may want to step back from the tasks for a minute, remove personal bias, and attempt to be objective. They're just computers, don't take it personally that they work under a paradigm that you are not comfortable with yet.
And that's a federal DA speaking, like I get he convicts pedos and murders and stuff, but have you ever heard of justice and ethics dude? Your DA score card isn't worth 1/1000 of a human life.
The way I see it, prosecutors forget the reason why they are immune from prosecution. Our Founding Fathers intentionally stacked the deck against the government to reduce the possibility of the innocent being convicted. But they gave prosecutors this ultimate power, this reminder, their immunity, which is intended so that they can afford to be just without external influence like politics, bribery, extortion, or prosecution. Most prosecutors at all levels seem to regard their immunity as though they were a Chicago Untouchable... above the law. They might get caught doing stuff wrong, using improper tactics or what have you, but they never ever are held accountable for it, so there's nothing stopping them from continuing certain practices because more often than not, they get away with it, whatever it is, and win their cases.