Point I am trying to make with you that you have decided to reject... Apple's "apps" are new things. They are these little programs that run on iOS. Jobs even says, IIRC, "they're not applications... they're apps, right?" or something to that effect. Killer app, on the other hand, that's an abbreviation. Apple's apps are not an abbreviation, but a NEW word, with a meaning that is distinct from the meaning of the word application. There are words that are pronounced and spelled the same, but have different meanings, whether subtle or not, they are called homonyms. These are 2 different words, app, the abbreviation for software application, and app, the silly one trick pony programs that run on iOS. Now, I would argue that the new Apple word app could not be trademarked... but App Store absolutely can be, and should be.
then widgets are applications? Photoshop is clearly a widget, yes? UNIX itself, merely a gadget? Yes, a clever play on words, and yet not a play on words. Language evolves. No one confuses a silly fart app with, say, Postgres. Jobs and Apple marketing coined a new word, app, obviously derived naturally from application, and yet distinct, and not, or at least no longer, an abbreviation. Also... it turns out its a distinct file format (of the bundle or package type, a special folder). Microsoft doesn't use it. They use.exe's. So... what's wrong with the Microsoft ExeStore ?
Yes, as I've stated in otter posts, the generic for App Store is package manager. Microsoft has no case. It's like they're saying "but WE wanted to call our product Kleenex!"
In the case of "app store", Microsoft has a good case, because Apple is trying to trademark the general shortening of "application". I don't think the shortening of "application store" to "app store" will be able to withstand the attack of genericity.
Actually not. You have to see the keynote when Jobs introduced the App Store to see that "App" is NOT an abbreviation of application, but a new word they coined that day. Jobs discussed the differences between the two concepts, so, not an abbreciation, but a separate word (albeit a homonym of the abbreviation of application).
Also, "app store" is NOT generic.
The generic term for Apple's App Store is package manager.
You are confusing two distinct words, or, strictly speaking, an abbreviation with a new word. They are homonyms, "app." and "app" – Jobs made the distinction between applications and apps when he introduced the App Store. Basically, he coined a new word that day. Do you refer to your dashboard widgets, or the Windows gadgets as applications? They are computer programs, but simpler than something so grand and complex and powerful as an applicaiton. Yes... people have been abbreviating "application" to "apps" for ages in computer time. But the App Store is not a market for applications. Those are apps, not applications.
Clothing store, department store, toilet store. What would be the obvious name for a store that sells apps?
"Package Manager"
Microsoft, and most of the posters here, are missing a few really clever things about the name.
Apple actually coined a new word: "App" – Steve Jobs made this clear when he introduced the App Store in his discussion of Applications vs. Apps. It's a marketing trick... obviously, both are computer programs of a sort... but applications run on your full computer, and apps are simpler, not full applications, but more like Apple's dashboard widgets. No one would confuse, say, Photoshop with a dashboard widget, yet all over here the Microsoft apologists are seeing Photoshop as a widget (in effect).
App is also an abreviation of "Apple." The name "App Store" is actually a double double entendre: App (for "app," not "application," also for "Apple"); and Store (for "storage," but of course, also, as in "market").
"App Store" is a brilliant but simple name... and it is not generic.
Again, the generic name for what "App Store" actually is would be Package Manager.
I know of no Medicine fit to diminish
the violent natural inclination you mention; and if I did, I think
I should not communicate it to you. Marriage is the proper Remedy.
It is the most natural State of Man, and therefore the State in which
you will find solid Happiness. Your Reason against entering into
it at present appears to be not well founded. The Circumstantial
Advantages you have in View by Postponing it, are not only uncertain,
but they are small in comparison with the Thing itself, the being
married and settled. It is the Man and Woman united that makes
the complete Being. Separate she wants his force of Body and Strength
of Reason; he her Softness, Sensibility and acute Discernment. Together
they are most likely to succeed in the World. A single Man has not
nearly the Value he would have in that State of Union. He is an incomplete
Animal. He resembles the odd Half of a Pair of Scissors.
If you get a prudent, healthy wife, your
Industry in your Profession, with her good Economy, will be a Fortune
sufficient.
But if you will not take this Counsel,
and persist in thinking that Commerce with the Sex is inevitable,
then I repeat my former Advice that in your Amours you should prefer
old Women to young ones. This you call a Paradox, and demand
my reasons. They are these:
1. Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds
are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving,
and more lastingly agreeable.
2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good.
To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution
of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand
Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of
Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence
there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not
a good Woman.
3. Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced
may be attended with much inconvenience.
4. Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet
in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with
them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard
to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People
might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care
of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent
his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes.
5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of
the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part.
The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast
and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever;
so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what
is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old
one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure
of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently
superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement.
6. Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her
Ruin, and make her Life unhappy.
7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may
give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making
an old Woman happy.
8. 8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!
Thus much for my Paradox. But still I
advise you to marry immediately; being sincerely
I thank God that I am not the only one that has a respect for philosophy. Rand was not a philosopher, and does not have a philosophy. She was what I like to refer to as a pulp sociologist.
I'd love to answer your question but you failed to see I was being facetious (Where do I buy Android stock?). However, considering Android isn't selling music, and "the real" Android tablet hasn't hit the market yet, I'd say IF Android were a company, it's painfully obvious they've already lost all those sales in 2010 to iPad, and if there were Android execs somewhere, they'd be worried that someone might notice they didn't sell anything in 2010 other than a few phones. If there was a revenue loss, I'd say it was failing to sell any tablets in 2010. Massive revenue loss there... failing to pick up the money.
Rape is not a crime of passion and desire. It is a crime of violence. Rape is about (that illusion known as) control. You can't stop a rapist by "turning them off" sexually. There's more than one way to stop a rapist, of course, but I recommend vigorously and repeatedly applying a baseball bat to either head.
That's awesome that they've finally decided to study it. I mean... at least 10K years of cultivation and use of cannibis, it's about time they took a look at what it is and what it does. Compare to a drug like Depakote, which I believe was first synthesized in the 1980's as an anticonvulsant... but the maker studied it and realized it's a decent mood stabelizer too... so... less than 30 years on the planet and we know far
more about Depakote. (FYI my entire post is sarcasm... we know far more about cannibis and it's effects than any drug invented, tested, approved and marketed in the last 100 years.... because those drugs have only been around less than a century... ).
FYI just so you know, that ac was a troll... I think you prolly picked up on that. Anyhoo, sticking to my guns here... configuring a single DNS is far less complicated than making sure 1000 computers have a the correct HOSTS file. You're way is perfectly valid... and when dealing with a handful of machines, I defer often to that method. But you're not thinking clearly if you believe wrangling 1000 HOSTS files (by whatever method you believe is as easy as breathing) is superior to one single DNS.
I believe they are too busy sweating the massive and perhaps incalculable revenue fail Android is facing outside the cell phone market... in, say, the media sales/media player/gaming device/tablet computer markets. How is Android still in business?
Forgot to add, I'm an engineer at a traffic light manufacturer.
Why is there still traffic? Why can't a scalable traffic system be designed and built with smart traffic lights that actually see and react to traffic? Why can't an intersection be aware enough to see you approach the empty intersection and smart enough to give you a green light before you arrive?
IT'S 2011!!! WTFFF?? Smart traffic lights NOW PLZ KTHXBAI!!!
To be fair, Socrates spent most of his life drunk, having intercrotial "sex" with young boys, and publically humiliating anyone that could overlook his grotesque features. Plato was the philosophical and literary genius, while by all reports, Socrates was an unmittigated asshole.
I can do that too. But you mislead... it's complicated... it's far more complex keeping track of many systems in an enterprise THAN A SINGLE DNS SERVER that you control. But you go ahead... party like it's 1974.
LMAO - I didnt say run the DNS on Android haha! Just run it SOMEWHERE. If you have a single *nix machine, mucking with the hosts file is fine. After you get a few machines, it gets old... fast.
Ok, that's dynamite, Dino. Huh... HOSTS file. Yeah... just edit that on all you *nix devices and you're golden. Or you could run your own DNS... far less mucking about with adjusting HOSTS files like some square throwback admin from 1974. YMMV
By the time they set up and license all their people with client machines and all the applications, a company will spend about as much as just buying PCs in bulk from Dell or whoever and site licensing the corporate-standard MS Office suite.
Yeah, because if you buy the fat client, there are no licensing fees. Sure fat clients are 10 times more and will last half as long, but, apparently the point you are trying to make, all the software will be practically free./sarcasm
Your math is way off. IT departments aren't all the same. They should be, but there's MSCE slackers out there with job security... why on earth would they switch from a broken system (such as a Wintop install that is more than a few months old) that gives them job security to a system that requires far less manpower, and because it works, less work? No, only the talented and honest IT groups will bother with trying to be efficient. The rest slum it in the status quo, and chortle with glee about updating from XP to 7 even though it gives the business user absolutely no advantage.
From what I understand (and this may very well be wrong), Type 1 diabetes is when the immune system breaks down beta islets leaving one unable to produce insulin. So wouldn't this be a highly temporary fix, before the immune system goes to town again?
If so, I don't know if a lifetime of being stabbed in the balls is preferable to a lifetime of insulin injections.
even more so considering medical science is on the verge of a cure
I was sort of thinking the same thing... kind of... If, apparently, blasting the satellite into 10K pieces is a bad idea, what about just melting it a little bit with a powerful laser -- to destroy its electronics and transmitter? Why hasn't this been done already, if not by military, then by some intrepid DIY slashdotter? (Sharks are cool too, but that means big salt-water aquariums, and sure they can be beautiful and very rewarding, but if you don't live near the ocean it can be expensive and a real chore to keep it up.)
The weather is totally underrated, and I don't want mine interrupted.
Indeed, misrated, really. After the Beatles invasion, music changed. Everything sounded different after that. Some say the Beatles ruined Western music. It wasn't until the Seattle invasion that music changed again ("Hey, we don't need no stinkin' million bucks to make a record! Give us $500 and distribute what we do nationally... screw cocaine and Motley Crue!"). Then in the 90's all the chick bands came through, and the lofi was big... until they made too much money to be lofi anymore, and there were some fine high fidelity records from the lofi artists... until female soloists took over.... dammit... save us Wilco! Bring back the superior acts of male vocalists backed by two guitars!! Kind of like he Beatles' format! oh... wait....
You have a great point. I think that if Adobe hadn't coopted needlessly all the n00bs running video sites in the early 2000's, such that 99.9% of the Flash internet share wasn't videos, perhaps flash wouldn't be as hated. If Adobe had pushed it as it was, a platform, rather than shoehorning media into it as though it was a wrapper, perhaps Flash would be respected. As it is, though... no one cares... Flash is for video, now. Blame Adobe. They're idiots.
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Point I am trying to make with you that you have decided to reject... Apple's "apps" are new things. They are these little programs that run on iOS. Jobs even says, IIRC, "they're not applications... they're apps, right?" or something to that effect. Killer app, on the other hand, that's an abbreviation. Apple's apps are not an abbreviation, but a NEW word, with a meaning that is distinct from the meaning of the word application. There are words that are pronounced and spelled the same, but have different meanings, whether subtle or not, they are called homonyms. These are 2 different words, app, the abbreviation for software application, and app, the silly one trick pony programs that run on iOS. Now, I would argue that the new Apple word app could not be trademarked... but App Store absolutely can be, and should be.
then widgets are applications? Photoshop is clearly a widget, yes? UNIX itself, merely a gadget? Yes, a clever play on words, and yet not a play on words. Language evolves. No one confuses a silly fart app with, say, Postgres. Jobs and Apple marketing coined a new word, app, obviously derived naturally from application, and yet distinct, and not, or at least no longer, an abbreviation. Also... it turns out its a distinct file format (of the bundle or package type, a special folder). Microsoft doesn't use it. They use .exe's. So ... what's wrong with the Microsoft ExeStore ?
Yes, as I've stated in otter posts, the generic for App Store is package manager. Microsoft has no case. It's like they're saying "but WE wanted to call our product Kleenex!"
In the case of "app store", Microsoft has a good case, because Apple is trying to trademark the general shortening of "application". I don't think the shortening of "application store" to "app store" will be able to withstand the attack of genericity.
Actually not. You have to see the keynote when Jobs introduced the App Store to see that "App" is NOT an abbreviation of application, but a new word they coined that day. Jobs discussed the differences between the two concepts, so, not an abbreciation, but a separate word (albeit a homonym of the abbreviation of application).
Also, "app store" is NOT generic.
The generic term for Apple's App Store is package manager.
You are confusing two distinct words, or, strictly speaking, an abbreviation with a new word. They are homonyms, "app." and "app" – Jobs made the distinction between applications and apps when he introduced the App Store. Basically, he coined a new word that day. Do you refer to your dashboard widgets, or the Windows gadgets as applications? They are computer programs, but simpler than something so grand and complex and powerful as an applicaiton. Yes... people have been abbreviating "application" to "apps" for ages in computer time. But the App Store is not a market for applications. Those are apps, not applications.
Clothing store, department store, toilet store. What would be the obvious name for a store that sells apps?
"Package Manager"
Microsoft, and most of the posters here, are missing a few really clever things about the name.
Apple actually coined a new word: "App" – Steve Jobs made this clear when he introduced the App Store in his discussion of Applications vs. Apps. It's a marketing trick... obviously, both are computer programs of a sort... but applications run on your full computer, and apps are simpler, not full applications, but more like Apple's dashboard widgets. No one would confuse, say, Photoshop with a dashboard widget, yet all over here the Microsoft apologists are seeing Photoshop as a widget (in effect).
App is also an abreviation of "Apple." The name "App Store" is actually a double double entendre: App (for "app," not "application," also for "Apple"); and Store (for "storage," but of course, also, as in "market").
"App Store" is a brilliant but simple name... and it is not generic.
Again, the generic name for what "App Store" actually is would be Package Manager.
No one will ever buy that. But it is interesting. Thx for the link.
MY DEAR FRIEND:-
I know of no Medicine fit to diminish the violent natural inclination you mention; and if I did, I think I should not communicate it to you. Marriage is the proper Remedy. It is the most natural State of Man, and therefore the State in which you will find solid Happiness. Your Reason against entering into it at present appears to be not well founded. The Circumstantial Advantages you have in View by Postponing it, are not only uncertain, but they are small in comparison with the Thing itself, the being married and settled. It is the Man and Woman united that makes the complete Being. Separate she wants his force of Body and Strength of Reason; he her Softness, Sensibility and acute Discernment. Together they are most likely to succeed in the World. A single Man has not nearly the Value he would have in that State of Union. He is an incomplete Animal. He resembles the odd Half of a Pair of Scissors.
If you get a prudent, healthy wife, your Industry in your Profession, with her good Economy, will be a Fortune sufficient.
But if you will not take this Counsel, and persist in thinking that Commerce with the Sex is inevitable, then I repeat my former Advice that in your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. This you call a Paradox, and demand my reasons. They are these:
1. Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable.
2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not a good Woman.
3. Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience.
4. Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes.
5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement.
6. Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy.
7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman happy.
8. 8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!
Thus much for my Paradox. But still I advise you to marry immediately; being sincerely
Your Affectionate Friend,
Benj. Franklin
... just a few things to consider... ;)
I thank God that I am not the only one that has a respect for philosophy. Rand was not a philosopher, and does not have a philosophy. She was what I like to refer to as a pulp sociologist.
I'd love to answer your question but you failed to see I was being facetious (Where do I buy Android stock?). However, considering Android isn't selling music, and "the real" Android tablet hasn't hit the market yet, I'd say IF Android were a company, it's painfully obvious they've already lost all those sales in 2010 to iPad, and if there were Android execs somewhere, they'd be worried that someone might notice they didn't sell anything in 2010 other than a few phones. If there was a revenue loss, I'd say it was failing to sell any tablets in 2010. Massive revenue loss there... failing to pick up the money.
Rape is not a crime of passion and desire. It is a crime of violence. Rape is about (that illusion known as) control. You can't stop a rapist by "turning them off" sexually. There's more than one way to stop a rapist, of course, but I recommend vigorously and repeatedly applying a baseball bat to either head.
That's awesome that they've finally decided to study it. I mean... at least 10K years of cultivation and use of cannibis, it's about time they took a look at what it is and what it does. Compare to a drug like Depakote, which I believe was first synthesized in the 1980's as an anticonvulsant... but the maker studied it and realized it's a decent mood stabelizer too... so... less than 30 years on the planet and we know far more about Depakote. (FYI my entire post is sarcasm... we know far more about cannibis and it's effects than any drug invented, tested, approved and marketed in the last 100 years.... because those drugs have only been around less than a century... ).
the meter-wide bean can
What kind of beans are they?
FYI just so you know, that ac was a troll... I think you prolly picked up on that. Anyhoo, sticking to my guns here... configuring a single DNS is far less complicated than making sure 1000 computers have a the correct HOSTS file. You're way is perfectly valid... and when dealing with a handful of machines, I defer often to that method. But you're not thinking clearly if you believe wrangling 1000 HOSTS files (by whatever method you believe is as easy as breathing) is superior to one single DNS.
I believe they are too busy sweating the massive and perhaps incalculable revenue fail Android is facing outside the cell phone market... in, say, the media sales/media player/gaming device/tablet computer markets. How is Android still in business?
Forgot to add, I'm an engineer at a traffic light manufacturer.
Why is there still traffic? Why can't a scalable traffic system be designed and built with smart traffic lights that actually see and react to traffic? Why can't an intersection be aware enough to see you approach the empty intersection and smart enough to give you a green light before you arrive?
IT'S 2011!!! WTFFF?? Smart traffic lights NOW PLZ KTHXBAI!!!
The Demos killed him because they didn't like him
To be fair, Socrates spent most of his life drunk, having intercrotial "sex" with young boys, and publically humiliating anyone that could overlook his grotesque features. Plato was the philosophical and literary genius, while by all reports, Socrates was an unmittigated asshole.
I can do that too. But you mislead... it's complicated... it's far more complex keeping track of many systems in an enterprise THAN A SINGLE DNS SERVER that you control. But you go ahead... party like it's 1974.
LMAO - I didnt say run the DNS on Android haha! Just run it SOMEWHERE. If you have a single *nix machine, mucking with the hosts file is fine. After you get a few machines, it gets old... fast.
Ok, that's dynamite, Dino. Huh... HOSTS file. Yeah... just edit that on all you *nix devices and you're golden. Or you could run your own DNS... far less mucking about with adjusting HOSTS files like some square throwback admin from 1974. YMMV
George did it first
By the time they set up and license all their people with client machines and all the applications, a company will spend about as much as just buying PCs in bulk from Dell or whoever and site licensing the corporate-standard MS Office suite.
Yeah, because if you buy the fat client, there are no licensing fees. Sure fat clients are 10 times more and will last half as long, but, apparently the point you are trying to make, all the software will be practically free. /sarcasm
Your math is way off. IT departments aren't all the same. They should be, but there's MSCE slackers out there with job security... why on earth would they switch from a broken system (such as a Wintop install that is more than a few months old) that gives them job security to a system that requires far less manpower, and because it works, less work? No, only the talented and honest IT groups will bother with trying to be efficient. The rest slum it in the status quo, and chortle with glee about updating from XP to 7 even though it gives the business user absolutely no advantage.
From what I understand (and this may very well be wrong), Type 1 diabetes is when the immune system breaks down beta islets leaving one unable to produce insulin. So wouldn't this be a highly temporary fix, before the immune system goes to town again?
If so, I don't know if a lifetime of being stabbed in the balls is preferable to a lifetime of insulin injections.
even more so considering medical science is on the verge of a cure
Space Sharks! With fricking Space Lasers!
I was sort of thinking the same thing... kind of... If, apparently, blasting the satellite into 10K pieces is a bad idea, what about just melting it a little bit with a powerful laser -- to destroy its electronics and transmitter? Why hasn't this been done already, if not by military, then by some intrepid DIY slashdotter? (Sharks are cool too, but that means big salt-water aquariums, and sure they can be beautiful and very rewarding, but if you don't live near the ocean it can be expensive and a real chore to keep it up.)
The weather is totally underrated, and I don't want mine interrupted.
Meh. The Beatles are overrated.
Indeed, misrated, really. After the Beatles invasion, music changed. Everything sounded different after that. Some say the Beatles ruined Western music. It wasn't until the Seattle invasion that music changed again ("Hey, we don't need no stinkin' million bucks to make a record! Give us $500 and distribute what we do nationally... screw cocaine and Motley Crue!"). Then in the 90's all the chick bands came through, and the lofi was big... until they made too much money to be lofi anymore, and there were some fine high fidelity records from the lofi artists... until female soloists took over.... dammit... save us Wilco! Bring back the superior acts of male vocalists backed by two guitars!! Kind of like he Beatles' format! oh... wait....
You have a great point. I think that if Adobe hadn't coopted needlessly all the n00bs running video sites in the early 2000's, such that 99.9% of the Flash internet share wasn't videos, perhaps flash wouldn't be as hated. If Adobe had pushed it as it was, a platform, rather than shoehorning media into it as though it was a wrapper, perhaps Flash would be respected. As it is, though... no one cares... Flash is for video, now. Blame Adobe. They're idiots.