Also, what if someone wanted to deliberately slow down the earth's rotation? Say, by turning a motor against it?
I did a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation that suggests someone could slow down the earth's rotation by 5% by spending $30 billion on electricity to turn a motor in the appropriate direction.
This is exactly why I prefer a letter-of-the-law system like we have in Finland. There is little or no "interpretation". Laws are enforced as written and laws are written so that the average educated adult can understand them without hiring a lawyer to "interpret" them.
I don't think this kind of progress obviates that slog work. I mean, we have completely automated basic arithmetic and analytical functions, so no one needs to learn how to do them? Well, not quite. You still have to learn them so you can debug (in the broader sense) the system that's supposed to be automating your work so you know when it's errs and why it's erring. Initial "slog work" would still exist in such situations, it's just that it would be "verify this document search, see if there's anything it should have gotten but didn't" instead of "do this document search".
You can really crash when you don't have people are who *could*, if necessary, manually go through all the steps to make sure the computers are doing it right.
Too bad that "the sun was in my eyes" provides no mitigation whatsoever for culpability (legal or otherwise) in hitting someone with your car. You're supposed to factor in hazards like glare when driving. The sun is not carte blanche to plow over grandpa, as this dumb bitch seems to think.
I guess she can take solace in how many other drivers are just as irresponsible as she is.
You can get a much higher body count if you don't have to make it out alive yourself. So yes, it's much better when terrorists constrain themselves to using methods that allow themselves to walk away alive.
For example, if someone illegally parks a big suspicious truck right against a building and runs off, you have a chance to clear the area while the time bomb is ticking. But if he doesn't care about surviving, he just plows the thing straight into the building, no warning, and gets a more destructive detonation.
Yeah, I'll go with the non-self-sacrificial terrorists.
I don't see where the GP suggested that -- he specifically said that there's a core that will always be super-polynomial, making the class as a whole superpolynomial. He only said that a "large number" of special circumstances that can be done in polynomial time but *don't* cover the whole problem class.
I think the plan needs to first address some more fundamental issues, such was: why anyone should take a place called fuckin' "Kalamazoo" seriously. That's such a joke name.
And why should they have to pay extra to have translators and Norwegian dubbers just so you can get your tv shows ASAP? That stuff costs money and time, and you want it for free, and right now, it seems.
I think you're ripe for the other version of the joke: Yes, I can, in fact, build a car that runs off bags of mowed grass and other biofuels. And not only that, its exhaust can be recycled for energy. What's more, it can handle rough terrain, and even -- get this -- self-replicate!
It's called a horse.
(And currently, ethanol is a [crappy] way of having plants store sunlight energy in form cars can use, after a little processing.)
So, let me get this straight: Caltech scientists are telling us that, "Okay, we've got this awesome machine going on! See, it stores energy from the sun in a useable form, and does it by stripping the oxygen off the CO2 molecules, which it can then exhale in a way that's also useful to us. Totally game changing!"
And after we applaud them for this, their plan is to say, "Yeah, and it's called a plant, morons!"
Exactly. If God were a man, we'd actually be able to understand him -- and he'd communicate pretty directly with us about what he wants. But since god is a woman, she expects us to "just know" what she wants, and gets all pissy and vindictive when we don't. Go fig.
True, but people have to be making money from the sales through facebook ads (not likely) or buying demographic data (a little more plausible) to justify that. Where does the money ultimately come from?
Also, in your system, is there a place for market makers?
Nope. The algorithm can just wait for overlapping supply/demand curves and split the difference wherever the market-clearing trade set is underdetermined.
As for the HFT, even if they blow their money buying out a whole auction to find out how many there are, so what? Then they're just stuck with overpriced stock. (To tease out the full number of willing sellers, they have to go to the extremes of the supply/demand curve.)
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Also, what if someone wanted to deliberately slow down the earth's rotation? Say, by turning a motor against it?
I did a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation that suggests someone could slow down the earth's rotation by 5% by spending $30 billion on electricity to turn a motor in the appropriate direction.
Somehow I think it's probably best at "hello".
I'm one step ahead of these known-plaintext attacks -- no longer do I use the same, small set of voice greetings. No no -- I prepend a nonce.
"Hello?" ... and you're not supposed to answer the phone like that!!!"
"Shgr'gl'hm-v'va Hi Mom, it's Clyde
No, you're just obligated by law to throw on your sunglasses and follow your remark with "... YEAH".
This is exactly why I prefer a letter-of-the-law system like we have in Finland. There is little or no "interpretation". Laws are enforced as written and laws are written so that the average educated adult can understand them without hiring a lawyer to "interpret" them.
Unfortunately, you have to know Finnish.
Do me a favor and find out if the user "Clippy" on LessWrong.com is one of the other posters and who that asshole is. Will pay in Bitcoins.
-- long time angry member of LessWrong.com pissed off at the fucking paperclip maximizer.
I don't think this kind of progress obviates that slog work. I mean, we have completely automated basic arithmetic and analytical functions, so no one needs to learn how to do them? Well, not quite. You still have to learn them so you can debug (in the broader sense) the system that's supposed to be automating your work so you know when it's errs and why it's erring. Initial "slog work" would still exist in such situations, it's just that it would be "verify this document search, see if there's anything it should have gotten but didn't" instead of "do this document search".
You can really crash when you don't have people are who *could*, if necessary, manually go through all the steps to make sure the computers are doing it right.
Too bad that "the sun was in my eyes" provides no mitigation whatsoever for culpability (legal or otherwise) in hitting someone with your car. You're supposed to factor in hazards like glare when driving. The sun is not carte blanche to plow over grandpa, as this dumb bitch seems to think.
I guess she can take solace in how many other drivers are just as irresponsible as she is.
Yeah, also, you still need to steer while on cruise control, and the rule about "don't be a dick who camps the passing lane" still applies.
Just a friendly reminder...
You weren't happy with your Time Person of the Year, 2006 award?
You can get a much higher body count if you don't have to make it out alive yourself. So yes, it's much better when terrorists constrain themselves to using methods that allow themselves to walk away alive.
For example, if someone illegally parks a big suspicious truck right against a building and runs off, you have a chance to clear the area while the time bomb is ticking. But if he doesn't care about surviving, he just plows the thing straight into the building, no warning, and gets a more destructive detonation.
Yeah, I'll go with the non-self-sacrificial terrorists.
I thought PNAS was stupid because it looks like you're supposed to pronounce it P-NAS, which sounds like "penis", but no one listened to my warning.
I don't see where the GP suggested that -- he specifically said that there's a core that will always be super-polynomial, making the class as a whole superpolynomial. He only said that a "large number" of special circumstances that can be done in polynomial time but *don't* cover the whole problem class.
I think the plan needs to first address some more fundamental issues, such was: why anyone should take a place called fuckin' "Kalamazoo" seriously. That's such a joke name.
Oh. Sorry. Nevermind, then!
And why should they have to pay extra to have translators and Norwegian dubbers just so you can get your tv shows ASAP? That stuff costs money and time, and you want it for free, and right now, it seems.
Then get the Kindle version, honey.
I think you're ripe for the other version of the joke: Yes, I can, in fact, build a car that runs off bags of mowed grass and other biofuels. And not only that, its exhaust can be recycled for energy. What's more, it can handle rough terrain, and even -- get this -- self-replicate!
It's called a horse.
(And currently, ethanol is a [crappy] way of having plants store sunlight energy in form cars can use, after a little processing.)
So, let me get this straight: Caltech scientists are telling us that, "Okay, we've got this awesome machine going on! See, it stores energy from the sun in a useable form, and does it by stripping the oxygen off the CO2 molecules, which it can then exhale in a way that's also useful to us. Totally game changing!"
And after we applaud them for this, their plan is to say, "Yeah, and it's called a plant, morons!"
In Soviet existence, YOU select for the UNIVERSE!
Um, or something.
Exactly. If God were a man, we'd actually be able to understand him -- and he'd communicate pretty directly with us about what he wants. But since god is a woman, she expects us to "just know" what she wants, and gets all pissy and vindictive when we don't. Go fig.
The MS/Linux debate about OS security called. It wants Microsoft's talking points back.
So I assume the courts are also going to be ruling against all the government harassment of companies like Visa that process donations to Wikileaks?
Hey, I can dream...
Or Canada eh?
True, but people have to be making money from the sales through facebook ads (not likely) or buying demographic data (a little more plausible) to justify that. Where does the money ultimately come from?
Also, in your system, is there a place for market makers?
Nope. The algorithm can just wait for overlapping supply/demand curves and split the difference wherever the market-clearing trade set is underdetermined.
As for the HFT, even if they blow their money buying out a whole auction to find out how many there are, so what? Then they're just stuck with overpriced stock. (To tease out the full number of willing sellers, they have to go to the extremes of the supply/demand curve.)