Once upon a time, there used to be a concept that you were free to do what you want unless and until you violate someone else's rights
I don't disagree with most of what you are saying, but I do disagree with this romanticized version of our nation's history.
Once upon a time, blacks were murdered for looking at a white woman the wrong way, gays were severely punished for having consentual sex in the privacy of their own home, women couldn't vote, poor people were shot by police for demanding a 5 day work week.
50 years ago, a movie couldn't show a a black man and white woman kissing. The government censors would cut the scene out. You couldn't show two men kissing-- religious fanatics in the government would have you thrown in jail.
In many ways, we have more freedoms today then in the past.
Are you thinking of 'ESC-k' (or 'ESC-up-arrow') which opens the commandline history? That's like the 'fc' command, without opening a vi session.
In the ksh93, the vi command-line editing actually consisted of some vi-style commands, some ksh-only style commands, and some emacs-style.
I think the ESC-ESC was a ksh-only command, or it was some common binding on some OSs... but it wasn't universal. ksh93 was annoyingly different on Solaris 8 vs HPUX or AIX. Drove me crazy...
"Actually he didn't - we just made that quote up."
Please don't put words in Linus' mouth. That's very sleazy, Mr. Andrew Orlowsk.
Also from the fucking article:
So is Linus going to come down hard on other efforts to create a free and open alternative to a proprietary product - say, for example, a UNIX(TM)-like operating system?
Does the author understand that this is a different situation? Linus did not reverse engineer Unix.
that the answer is available on google (albeit not in the first link, you have to dig a bit)
Once again, did you actually check your own answer to see if it worked well? A needle in a haystack is not a good answer.
I'm looking for a definitive answer from the Debian leadership-- all I could find ws some email posts from people who, until this morning, were complete strangers. Should I trust "Joe Schmoe" when he says x.org will be included after the Sarge release?
also in the Debian faq as someone pointed out.
Unfortunately, the answer is NOT in the Debian FAQ. It should be.
There is an answer in this other FAQ at 'deadbeast.net'. Until Brandan (and others) responded to my post, I had no idea what Deadbeast.net was, who Brandan was, or why I should trust either source.
Until this morning, I didn't know who Branden or Daniel were, or why their opinions matter. Now I know:)
Part of this is my own misunderstanding of how Debian works. However, Debian is a very inward-looking project. As an outsider, I find it very difficult to see where the project is going.
I would love to understand and contribute, but I simply don't have time to become an expert of Debian's policies.
Well, it's the sort of task where you end up waiting 5-15 minutes for the computer to clean the drive, but 5-15 minutes isn't always enough time for you to finish up on other big tasks.
So you end up doing dumb, simple stuff like organizing small parts of the serverroom or something.
It's exactly the type of task that I hate doing...
Branden, thank you for listening. I know you are very busy, and really appreciate that you took the time to read my comments. Congratulations on the election.
I wish the best for the Debian community. My comments may be blunt, but I feel they are honest and reflect the opinions of many users.
While I understand why x.org won't be included in the testing/sarge or stable releases, I don't understand why x.org has not yet made it into unstable/sid. Is this caused by a lack of time & labor?
I've read a number of journals and articles on this subject, and people seem to be saying that x.org will be included into one of the branches after Sarge has become the stable release.
It seems like X.org could be included into the Sid/Unstable branch without affecting the stability of the Sarge/Testing branch. If x.org is not released into Unstable now, this will slow the adoption of x.org in the future.
I've heard rumors that this release policy will be changed after Sarge is released. Is this true?
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It gets worse.
There are bugs in Santa.
Well, I also charge $500 per ping attempt, and $1000 if ping doesn't recieve a response. Flood pings are free.
If a third party adds no value to the tools own automation,
Bah, I'm adding value! I'm adding $5000!
I'll sell you Nessus for a discounted price of $4000!
This is Double Jeapardy
Thanks Olex, apparently there was a typo in my comment. I'll ask again.
"Whot is the Onswer ta Life, the Universe, ond Everything?"
I like how eBay tries to sell me '42' items when I search google for 42:
Huge selection, great deals on 42 items.
What is the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything?
It had to be asked.
But what about the good little sheep who always do what Monkey Boy Bush tells them to do?
They get a coupon for a free Big Mac! Now shattup, Survivor is on!
Once upon a time, there used to be a concept that you were free to do what you want unless and until you violate someone else's rights
I don't disagree with most of what you are saying, but I do disagree with this romanticized version of our nation's history.
Once upon a time, blacks were murdered for looking at a white woman the wrong way, gays were severely punished for having consentual sex in the privacy of their own home, women couldn't vote, poor people were shot by police for demanding a 5 day work week.
50 years ago, a movie couldn't show a a black man and white woman kissing. The government censors would cut the scene out. You couldn't show two men kissing-- religious fanatics in the government would have you thrown in jail.
In many ways, we have more freedoms today then in the past.
Or "online journals" or "websites".
Maybe people didn't didn't know what a 'Blog' was because it's a trendy slang word?
Quickly runs out of the room and hides.
Sorry, command.com is so lame I don't think it can even handle a simple command like that.
I think I remember what you are talking about...
Are you thinking of 'ESC-k' (or 'ESC-up-arrow') which opens the commandline history? That's like the 'fc' command, without opening a vi session.
In the ksh93, the vi command-line editing actually consisted of some vi-style commands, some ksh-only style commands, and some emacs-style.
I think the ESC-ESC was a ksh-only command, or it was some common binding on some OSs... but it wasn't universal. ksh93 was annoyingly different on Solaris 8 vs HPUX or AIX. Drove me crazy...
Life is not all genetically modified skittles and beer you know!
Linus didn't have the POSIX specs when he started so he couldn't possibly have written to them.
But he did eventually get the POSIX specs, and made Linux conform with the specs.
As an interesting piece of history, here's the post which got the ball rolling.
I like how 8 of us all posted the same opinion within 2 minutes of each other.
...
I couldn't even access Slashdot for a couple minutes there
But I'm not fine with them writing a free replacement just by reverse engineering the proprietary formats
Linus never said that. From the fucking article:
"Actually he didn't - we just made that quote up."
Please don't put words in Linus' mouth. That's very sleazy, Mr. Andrew Orlowsk.
Also from the fucking article:
So is Linus going to come down hard on other efforts to create a free and open alternative to a proprietary product - say, for example, a UNIX(TM)-like operating system?
Does the author understand that this is a different situation? Linus did not reverse engineer Unix.
I dare say that The Tick patented "spoon" in the mid-80s.
the end is near for meetup.com
I was just saying
You called my questions "stupid" and "trivial".
that the answer is available on google (albeit not in the first link, you have to dig a bit)
Once again, did you actually check your own answer to see if it worked well? A needle in a haystack is not a good answer.
I'm looking for a definitive answer from the Debian leadership-- all I could find ws some email posts from people who, until this morning, were complete strangers. Should I trust "Joe Schmoe" when he says x.org will be included after the Sarge release?
also in the Debian faq as someone pointed out.
Unfortunately, the answer is NOT in the Debian FAQ. It should be.
There is an answer in this other FAQ at 'deadbeast.net'. Until Brandan (and others) responded to my post, I had no idea what Deadbeast.net was, who Brandan was, or why I should trust either source.
I'll pay you $6.95 an hour to erase my data!
But due to HIPPA regulations I'll need to shoot you when you finish...
Thank you. I appreciate your kind response.
:)
Until this morning, I didn't know who Branden or Daniel were, or why their opinions matter. Now I know
Part of this is my own misunderstanding of how Debian works. However, Debian is a very inward-looking project. As an outsider, I find it very difficult to see where the project is going.
I would love to understand and contribute, but I simply don't have time to become an expert of Debian's policies.
MIT responds by building a dance floor for a fad which hasn't been popular in 25 years.
And they just might it popular again for the next 25 years. Eye candy is quite popular at modern clubs, raves, Burning Man and elsewhere.
An interactive dance floor would be one of the coolest things ever.
Well, it's the sort of task where you end up waiting 5-15 minutes for the computer to clean the drive, but 5-15 minutes isn't always enough time for you to finish up on other big tasks.
So you end up doing dumb, simple stuff like organizing small parts of the serverroom or something.
It's exactly the type of task that I hate doing...
Branden, thank you for listening. I know you are very busy, and really appreciate that you took the time to read my comments. Congratulations on the election.
I wish the best for the Debian community. My comments may be blunt, but I feel they are honest and reflect the opinions of many users.
While I understand why x.org won't be included in the testing/sarge or stable releases, I don't understand why x.org has not yet made it into unstable/sid. Is this caused by a lack of time & labor?
I've read a number of journals and articles on this subject, and people seem to be saying that x.org will be included into one of the branches after Sarge has become the stable release.
It seems like X.org could be included into the Sid/Unstable branch without affecting the stability of the Sarge/Testing branch. If x.org is not released into Unstable now, this will slow the adoption of x.org in the future.
I've heard rumors that this release policy will be changed after Sarge is released. Is this true?
then likely started crying like a little girl
Bah, when I was 6 I fell off my bike and immediately started crying like a grown man.