And you shouldn't be forced to use Ubuntu if you don't want to.
However, I think that the two distros might focus on different pieces of the Linux realm. There is a natural split between the Server and Desktop realms... and this just might be indicitive of that split. My robust Debian webserver doesn't necessarily need a well-designed GUI widgets, and my workstation doesn't necessarily need to compile programs designed for an 8-processor box.
That's exactly what I was talking about. I ask a question, and you bite my head off. If this is such a trivial question, then why isn't there a simple solution?
Perhaps you should try some of your solutions yourself, instead of blindly assuming they work well. A quick Google search does not show any Definate answers. There is no obvious, definitive answer on debian.org.
I see some mailinglist posts made by people who I don't know. I also see a bunch of sites which have no obvious authority in the Debian project. Where's the offical word from the Debian leaders? Why should I trust what some stranger says on the mailinglist?
This is why people keep asking.
If the Debian devs want people to stop asking this frequently asked question, perhaps they should drop the elitist additide and put it in the Debian FAQ-- that's why we have a FAQ.
Debian stable eschews the bleeding edge in favor of reliability.
For production servers, I agree with you.
But for desktops and developmment servers, I don't agree.
x.org is not included in any official Debian repository. I don't consider it to be 'bleeding edge'. It certainly isn't well-tested and stable, but it's not bleeding edge. The alpha- beta- or latest point release of a package is 'bleeding edge'-- so just exclude those latest packages if it bothers you.
Either way, packages like this should have be in some sort of Debian test version. The Debian devs say they need to postponing x.org so that it won't interfere with the latest release of Debian. But this shows that there is something fundamentally wrong with the Debian release cycle.
If Ubuntu takes pressure off the Debian project to be all things to all people, then perhaps Debian can refine it's core competency (being the best server distro); which might help it stay a little more polished and up-to-date.
I think you are right on the money. Debian will probably focus on server stuff, and Ubuntu will focus on desktop. It's a good possible symbiosis.
Now imagine if Ubuntu had instead been a group of developers who decided to combine their efforts with the Debian group to improve Debian?
The people-who-control-Debian isn't always friendly towards new users, novice developers, or people ask simple questions like 'Why is x.org NOT in Debian-unstable?'.
More often then not, if I ask a question in a Debian forum, IRC channel or here on Slashdot, somebody will basically tell me to shut up and live with it.
It's this additude which has kept many people from using Debian, and is the same reason why many people are now reviewing Ubuntu.
Start a document management system for your resume.
I keep a Word Doc, PDF, HTML and plain text version. The manual update is a small hassle, and converting a formatted doc to a plain text version is annoying.
Oh, and many places require you to submit a Cover Letter as a Word Doc attachment in your email. I know it sounds lame, but it's helpful to have a word and plain text version of the same text.
Because, the articles come from Roland as if he was just another Slashdot user, which then gives more credibility to the submission [1].
In reality, it's quite clear that there is some sort of business connection between Roland and Slashdot. There is no other reason to accept 100% of Roland's submissions.
It's a desceptive relationship.
[1] Except that the credibility is undermined by the constant complaining of the Slashdot readers.
6 articles were submitted in the last month, NONE were rejected. If there were any Rejected articles, they would be displayed under a "Recent Submissions" section.
What are the chances that the Slashdot editors accept 100% of Roland's submissions, when they reject the majority of submissions from other people.
When was the last time YOU had a story accepted by the Slashdot crew?
Individual "gays" can marry the same as individual straight folks. There are no more or fewer restrictions on them.
But there are numerous government incentives for straight folks to marry-- Tax benefits, inheritance rights, adoption rights, the list goes on and on.
These are a government-sanctioned privledges which are restricted to one class of people.
dying with dignity,
Only if you want to.
Considering the big Conservative reaction to Terri Schiavo's death, they don't believe this.
It's a personal choice, not a place for Jeb Bush to force his religious views on us, nor is it a place for Congressional Republicans or President Bush to push through special legislation and request that the supreme court hear this case.
Who are these people you're talking about?
Give me a fucking break. You're head is in the sand. "There is no problem! There is no problem!"
Conservatives are for the smallest possible amount of government involvement in peoples' lives and a belief that the status quo usually represents an acceptable equilibrium
Except when it comes to gay marriage, dying with dignity, smoking marijuana, playing D&D in the community center, or a thousand other personal issues. Then it's regulation hell.
People who call themselves Conservatives just *say* they want to give the government off your back. That doesn't actually *mean* they want the government off your back.
Now you might see some Bible-thumpers claiming
Don't water it down by claiming there are only "some" Bible-thumpers trying to tell us what to do. These Bible-pushers have become the most powerful force in the Republican party, and are only too happy to ask the government to regulate my personal activities.
No, honestly. Firefox is some of your best protection against spyware.
I've used dozens of computers since 1999, and have received less then 5 pieces of spyware in that time-- all of it was injected into my system on those rare occasions that I used Internet Explorer. I've used Mozilla or Firefox as my primary browser since 2000 or so.
My 60 year old parents used IE for years, and got spyware on his system every couple months. He switched to Firefox a year ago because he read an article Kiplingers or some other business magazine (No encouragement from me) and hasn't had a single piece of spyware since.
I know I'm definately on the losing side of this one... automation is the future. My opinion doesn't matter much. I just mourn the loss of the the human side of all of this.
you follow their (or standard accepted for that type of application) practices
And here's the rub. Their standard practices is usually not known to external job applicants. It's a black box. Maybe they want the cover letter attached as a word doc. Maybe they hate that practice since it goes against the Unix practices. Maybe they cannot accept a resume as a PDF, maybe not. I don't know.
I try to bypass their standard practices anytime I can and try the old-fashioned human approach.
In the last 3 years, I have easily sent 150 resumes through Peoplesoft or Brass Ring tools used by HR without a single hit. In the same time, I've used my business network 10 times, and have scored 6 job interviews and 3 job offers. Same resume, similar cover letter.
These new practices have changed the concept of a 'cover letter'. A cover letter used to be a way of personally introducing yourself to the company. Now it's a document to be scaned and analyzed by a computer. The human side of the communication has been removed.
I know that if someone sent me a job application, and said "Please read the attached cover letter", I would probably trash the application because it indicates that the person does not know the appropriate way to use email. This is increasingly a problem in the corporate world. The HR department in my 10,000 person company will frequently send out "HR News" emails to the entire company without realizing that 1/3 of the company cannot read their format (Lotus Notes vs MS Exchange, internal hyperlinks, etc.)-- and they never acknowledge this problem or send a correction.
So I think I need to prepare for the least common denominator--- put the 'cover sheet' in the email body and as an attachment.
A fax cover sheet is equal to the email headers, which are available in the folder list.
People in the real world don't communicate by sending an email asking them to read an attachment. This situation only happens when dealing with job applications, or when dealing with people who have never used email before.
Those of us in the real world can save the email message... why require these through extra steps when they don't add value to the communication?
Slashdot Mirror
Thanks for the informative post. That clears things up.
I think I have found that page in the past, but back then I was just searching for some help with X.
Now here's my concern: I have no idea who Deadbeast is (There isn't a top level page -- which is wierd), how do I know it's not just wishful thinking?
If there was some link on debian.org's FAQ to the Deadbeast FAQ, then I would be less confused.
Although, I see Branden's page has alot of these links.
And you shouldn't be forced to use Ubuntu if you don't want to.
However, I think that the two distros might focus on different pieces of the Linux realm. There is a natural split between the Server and Desktop realms... and this just might be indicitive of that split. My robust Debian webserver doesn't necessarily need a well-designed GUI widgets, and my workstation doesn't necessarily need to compile programs designed for an 8-processor box.
Wow, what an asshole.
That's exactly what I was talking about. I ask a question, and you bite my head off. If this is such a trivial question, then why isn't there a simple solution?
Perhaps you should try some of your solutions yourself, instead of blindly assuming they work well. A quick Google search does not show any Definate answers. There is no obvious, definitive answer on debian.org.
I see some mailinglist posts made by people who I don't know. I also see a bunch of sites which have no obvious authority in the Debian project. Where's the offical word from the Debian leaders? Why should I trust what some stranger says on the mailinglist?
This is why people keep asking.
If the Debian devs want people to stop asking this frequently asked question, perhaps they should drop the elitist additide and put it in the Debian FAQ-- that's why we have a FAQ.
Britain started losing the empire long before WWII.
Debian stable eschews the bleeding edge in favor of reliability.
For production servers, I agree with you.
But for desktops and developmment servers, I don't agree.
x.org is not included in any official Debian repository. I don't consider it to be 'bleeding edge'. It certainly isn't well-tested and stable, but it's not bleeding edge. The alpha- beta- or latest point release of a package is 'bleeding edge'-- so just exclude those latest packages if it bothers you.
Either way, packages like this should have be in some sort of Debian test version. The Debian devs say they need to postponing x.org so that it won't interfere with the latest release of Debian. But this shows that there is something fundamentally wrong with the Debian release cycle.
If Ubuntu takes pressure off the Debian project to be all things to all people, then perhaps Debian can refine it's core competency (being the best server distro); which might help it stay a little more polished and up-to-date.
I think you are right on the money. Debian will probably focus on server stuff, and Ubuntu will focus on desktop. It's a good possible symbiosis.
s[isn't][aren't]
Now imagine if Ubuntu had instead been a group of developers who decided to combine their efforts with the Debian group to improve Debian?
The people-who-control-Debian isn't always friendly towards new users, novice developers, or people ask simple questions like 'Why is x.org NOT in Debian-unstable?'.
More often then not, if I ask a question in a Debian forum, IRC channel or here on Slashdot, somebody will basically tell me to shut up and live with it.
It's this additude which has kept many people from using Debian, and is the same reason why many people are now reviewing Ubuntu.
Well, his kind are slowly heading towards extinction.
The actions you see today are the last, desperate attempts at survival for the old empire. A quick grab for the power & money while they still can.
It would be best to use the oldest PCI-bus system you have for this particular task, so if you kill it, you aren't sad when you throw it in the bin.
Since this is a labor intensive process, you also want a fast computer. Losing a G4 shouldn't be bank-breaking for any business.
Start a document management system for your resume.
I keep a Word Doc, PDF, HTML and plain text version. The manual update is a small hassle, and converting a formatted doc to a plain text version is annoying.
Oh, and many places require you to submit a Cover Letter as a Word Doc attachment in your email. I know it sounds lame, but it's helpful to have a word and plain text version of the same text.
How do you know she wanted to die?
Regardless, it's not a place for Republican grandstanding, nor is it a place for democrats Jesse Jackson to get his face on the news again.
This post set me straight.
I made a false assumption... I thought you could see all of the rejected submissions in a user's profile. I was wrong.
This post set me straight.
However, 6 accepted submissions in under 30 days is quite suspicious. Perhaps he made 300 submissions, and the editors only accepted 6...
I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.
Why would we hide his posts?
Because, the articles come from Roland as if he was just another Slashdot user, which then gives more credibility to the submission [1].
In reality, it's quite clear that there is some sort of business connection between Roland and Slashdot. There is no other reason to accept 100% of Roland's submissions.
It's a desceptive relationship.
[1] Except that the credibility is undermined by the constant complaining of the Slashdot readers.
If you're wondering why all this fuss about the Roland Piquepaille problem, check out the rpiquepa's Recently Accepted Submissions.
6 articles were submitted in the last month, NONE were rejected. If there were any Rejected articles, they would be displayed under a "Recent Submissions" section.
What are the chances that the Slashdot editors accept 100% of Roland's submissions, when they reject the majority of submissions from other people.
When was the last time YOU had a story accepted by the Slashdot crew?
No, she's a fembot -- look at the name.
That's great! I see they have made many improvements with these bots since I last played...
The fembots used to just run around and circles and got confused when they ran into a corner.
Now, they can dodge and shoot around corners.
Great work to the fembot designers!
Don't confuse "conservative" with "right wing."
With so many "right wingers" calling themselves "conservative" and attempting to restrict my activities, it's hard not too.
Plus "Right wing" is just another label... none of these are exact definitions...
Individual "gays" can marry the same as individual straight folks. There are no more or fewer restrictions on them.
But there are numerous government incentives for straight folks to marry-- Tax benefits, inheritance rights, adoption rights, the list goes on and on.
These are a government-sanctioned privledges which are restricted to one class of people.
dying with dignity,
Only if you want to.
Considering the big Conservative reaction to Terri Schiavo's death, they don't believe this.
It's a personal choice, not a place for Jeb Bush to force his religious views on us, nor is it a place for Congressional Republicans or President Bush to push through special legislation and request that the supreme court hear this case.
Who are these people you're talking about?
Give me a fucking break. You're head is in the sand. "There is no problem! There is no problem!"
Conservatives are for the smallest possible amount of government involvement in peoples' lives and a belief that the status quo usually represents an acceptable equilibrium
Except when it comes to gay marriage, dying with dignity, smoking marijuana, playing D&D in the community center, or a thousand other personal issues. Then it's regulation hell.
People who call themselves Conservatives just *say* they want to give the government off your back. That doesn't actually *mean* they want the government off your back.
Now you might see some Bible-thumpers claiming
Don't water it down by claiming there are only "some" Bible-thumpers trying to tell us what to do. These Bible-pushers have become the most powerful force in the Republican party, and are only too happy to ask the government to regulate my personal activities.
No, honestly. Firefox is some of your best protection against spyware.
I've used dozens of computers since 1999, and have received less then 5 pieces of spyware in that time-- all of it was injected into my system on those rare occasions that I used Internet Explorer. I've used Mozilla or Firefox as my primary browser since 2000 or so.
My 60 year old parents used IE for years, and got spyware on his system every couple months. He switched to Firefox a year ago because he read an article Kiplingers or some other business magazine (No encouragement from me) and hasn't had a single piece of spyware since.
I know I'm definately on the losing side of this one... automation is the future. My opinion doesn't matter much. I just mourn the loss of the the human side of all of this.
you follow their (or standard accepted for that type of application) practices
And here's the rub. Their standard practices is usually not known to external job applicants. It's a black box. Maybe they want the cover letter attached as a word doc. Maybe they hate that practice since it goes against the Unix practices. Maybe they cannot accept a resume as a PDF, maybe not. I don't know.
I try to bypass their standard practices anytime I can and try the old-fashioned human approach.
In the last 3 years, I have easily sent 150 resumes through Peoplesoft or Brass Ring tools used by HR without a single hit. In the same time, I've used my business network 10 times, and have scored 6 job interviews and 3 job offers. Same resume, similar cover letter.
These new practices have changed the concept of a 'cover letter'. A cover letter used to be a way of personally introducing yourself to the company. Now it's a document to be scaned and analyzed by a computer. The human side of the communication has been removed.
I know that if someone sent me a job application, and said "Please read the attached cover letter", I would probably trash the application because it indicates that the person does not know the appropriate way to use email. This is increasingly a problem in the corporate world. The HR department in my 10,000 person company will frequently send out "HR News" emails to the entire company without realizing that 1/3 of the company cannot read their format (Lotus Notes vs MS Exchange, internal hyperlinks, etc.)-- and they never acknowledge this problem or send a correction.
So I think I need to prepare for the least common denominator--- put the 'cover sheet' in the email body and as an attachment.
And it really bothers me when they show two iPod Shuffles or MiniMac's copulating.
I mean, isn't there an age limit or something?
True... I actually meant to say "This week"...
It was hard to keep up with the fast pace of the April Fools postings...
A fax cover sheet is equal to the email headers, which are available in the folder list.
People in the real world don't communicate by sending an email asking them to read an attachment. This situation only happens when dealing with job applications, or when dealing with people who have never used email before.
Those of us in the real world can save the email message... why require these through extra steps when they don't add value to the communication?