Actually they can be worse.
A few months ago a was getting slammed with religious messages. They were down right foul. I won't bother repeating them but they went after just about everyone (Pagans, Jews, Catholics, etc). It took be weeks to track down all the networks it was comming out of and get the accounts wacked.
See if the local thrift shop will take it. There are people who will buy it off them. I have friends who loves old computers and looks for them at thrift shops (their on the east coast and the shipping wouldn't be worth it.
I think I read about the same problem with PC emulators on the Mac. You might be able to find a fix at www.macwindows.com (I'm too lazy to look myself).
I think it depends on you account name. My account with this name gets tons but my girlfriend's account with an underscore in the name gets maybe one a month.
Same deal here. It took forever for the.exe to load and then the game was so slow to be unplayable. I know it's not OpenGL because other games that use that run fine.
It looks sweet though.
Just off the top of my head but:
IIRC, ISP's can't be held responcible for what their users download through their network and for most students their school's network pretty much is their only connection to the net. So could schools say that they are ISPs and there for be safe from being sued?
I agree! I have one on my Mac and love it. I'm scared to death of it dieing on my one day because there hard to find and when you do they got for $80 and greater.
I use Windows, MacOS, and Unix most every day and I can use PGP with all three so that's what I use. I'd go for GPG if their was a Mac version but last time I checked there wasn't (I can't code so I can't port).
Yup!
I bought a copy for the Mac a couple of months before OS 9 came out. When it did a incampatability cropped up and I needed an upgrade. I call them and ask if there will be a free upgrade. Nope. I ask if there's a upgrade discount like most software. Nope. They actually wanted me to pay the full price again after just a few months! I'll never buy anything off them again.
#1 sounds a lot like NetBSD's (and maybe other BSD's) pkgsrc system. The is the one thing that I really wish linux had: cd to say, the kde directory and type "make". Wait a minute, this requires foo, bar, and baz. Let me down load them for you.
Much nicer then rpm -Uhv netscape. This requires foo and bar. Stop.
Agreed.
I'm fairly enviromentally minded but I think that this sort of thing really needs to be checked out before we form an opinion. I get so sick of people saying it's man's fault 5 minutes after it gets reported. Yea, Man is a big defiler but lets try to handle it rashinally! When it's our fault work toward a fix it. when it's not then we can either ignore it or try to contain it (If it's a threat).
You're right. The front end is very important but the reason I care about the DB server more is because if they go down they could drop some messages. I get far too many e-mails (not including spam) and I'd like not to loose them.
<JOKE>
Who do I talk to about marketing Hotmail yo-yos?
</JOKE>
Well,
I want to know what the servers lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com references (if you look in the address bar you'll see a IP address). As I said in another post I don't care what the front end runs. It's the DB server that matters.
I don't know if they went through with it or not but a couple of weeks ago I made a hotmail account for my girlfriend and she was having problems with it left and right (could find the page, script errors, broken pipes, and hotmail's "Sorry internal error"). After a week of this I contacted hotmail and they insisted it was on my end (even though my hotmail account is fine with the same set up on my end). Now as of yesterday everthing's fine.
I don't know this has anything to do this the Win2000 switch over or not as I can't figure out how to find out what the mail DB servers they use runs but I suspect it is.
I agree (for the most part). I use a Mac for almost all my day to day stuff. It does what I want and I don't have to fight with it to get things done. My mother uses a Mac because she's to computers as holy water is to undead. With out even trying she ends up killing every computer she touches. With a Mac it's easier to fix it when she kills it.
When I set up a server I use Unix/Linux bcause it's the best for the job. There's more set up needed but once that's done it's rock solid. When my g/f wanted a game machine I set up a Windows box. It goes down from time to time, sometimes hard but it's the best for games.
Play nice people. If you like $OS and it does what you want then use it. If your friend uses a different OS and he likes it then leave him be. Holy wars are useless.
Root? no. But there are a few hacks to crash a Mac (Open Transport bugs and such). Plus, now that MacOS 9 has TCP/IP File sharing some one might be able to do some damage (I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet).
I stand corrected. I was going by what I was told by a ISP in your country when I reported some one posting under-aged girls in a newsgroup. I was told that 15 or 16 is legal there.
Okay, I can understand them wanting to get rid of Napster but this is scary! You don't like Napster and since you haven't been able to get rid of it (yet) you're going to cut it off the net (essentially)? Hell, I hate child porn but some of it's legal in Holland (15 y/o and up I think). So using their logic I should try to cut Holland of the net?
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I agree.
The only questions we answered at my house were the number of people and race (human).
Actually they can be worse.
A few months ago a was getting slammed with religious messages. They were down right foul. I won't bother repeating them but they went after just about everyone (Pagans, Jews, Catholics, etc). It took be weeks to track down all the networks it was comming out of and get the accounts wacked.
See if the local thrift shop will take it. There are people who will buy it off them. I have friends who loves old computers and looks for them at thrift shops (their on the east coast and the shipping wouldn't be worth it.
-Fyre
I think I read about the same problem with PC emulators on the Mac. You might be able to find a fix at www.macwindows.com (I'm too lazy to look myself).
-Fyre
I think it depends on you account name. My account with this name gets tons but my girlfriend's account with an underscore in the name gets maybe one a month.
Same deal here. It took forever for the .exe to load and then the game was so slow to be unplayable. I know it's not OpenGL because other games that use that run fine.
It looks sweet though.
But they had the balls to keep it up.
Trout Run? Cool!
I need to get back up to Cross Fork next summer. I haven't been there in years
(I'm sorry for posting this but he didn't pub. his e-mail address.)
Just off the top of my head but:
IIRC, ISP's can't be held responcible for what their users download through their network and for most students their school's network pretty much is their only connection to the net. So could schools say that they are ISPs and there for be safe from being sued?
-Fyre
I agree! I have one on my Mac and love it. I'm scared to death of it dieing on my one day because there hard to find and when you do they got for $80 and greater.
I use Windows, MacOS, and Unix most every day and I can use PGP with all three so that's what I use. I'd go for GPG if their was a Mac version but last time I checked there wasn't (I can't code so I can't port).
-Fyre
Yup!
I bought a copy for the Mac a couple of months before OS 9 came out. When it did a incampatability cropped up and I needed an upgrade. I call them and ask if there will be a free upgrade. Nope. I ask if there's a upgrade discount like most software. Nope. They actually wanted me to pay the full price again after just a few months! I'll never buy anything off them again.
#1 sounds a lot like NetBSD's (and maybe other BSD's) pkgsrc system. The is the one thing that I really wish linux had: cd to say, the kde directory and type "make". Wait a minute, this requires foo, bar, and baz. Let me down load them for you.
Much nicer then rpm -Uhv netscape. This requires foo and bar. Stop.
Some old printers (The ones that you can still get ink for) are great for printing logs. I have an old HP (from 1982)that works great for text.
Agreed.
I'm fairly enviromentally minded but I think that this sort of thing really needs to be checked out before we form an opinion. I get so sick of people saying it's man's fault 5 minutes after it gets reported. Yea, Man is a big defiler but lets try to handle it rashinally! When it's our fault work toward a fix it. when it's not then we can either ignore it or try to contain it (If it's a threat).
-Fyre
PS- Isn't it amazing how bad I spell?
In my exp. it's not that bad anymore. From what I've seen it's about 1-10% (10% is on a really bad day).
Fyre
You're right. The front end is very important but the reason I care about the DB server more is because if they go down they could drop some messages. I get far too many e-mails (not including spam) and I'd like not to loose them.
<JOKE>
Who do I talk to about marketing Hotmail yo-yos?
</JOKE>
Well,
I want to know what the servers lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com references (if you look in the address bar you'll see a IP address). As I said in another post I don't care what the front end runs. It's the DB server that matters.
What the front end runs isn't really that importent. What matters is the DB's in the background run and they don't make it easy to find out.
I don't know if they went through with it or not but a couple of weeks ago I made a hotmail account for my girlfriend and she was having problems with it left and right (could find the page, script errors, broken pipes, and hotmail's "Sorry internal error"). After a week of this I contacted hotmail and they insisted it was on my end (even though my hotmail account is fine with the same set up on my end). Now as of yesterday everthing's fine.
I don't know this has anything to do this the Win2000 switch over or not as I can't figure out how to find out what the mail DB servers they use runs but I suspect it is.
Just my $0.02
-Fyre
I agree (for the most part). I use a Mac for almost all my day to day stuff. It does what I want and I don't have to fight with it to get things done. My mother uses a Mac because she's to computers as holy water is to undead. With out even trying she ends up killing every computer she touches. With a Mac it's easier to fix it when she kills it.
When I set up a server I use Unix/Linux bcause it's the best for the job. There's more set up needed but once that's done it's rock solid. When my g/f wanted a game machine I set up a Windows box. It goes down from time to time, sometimes hard but it's the best for games.
Play nice people. If you like $OS and it does what you want then use it. If your friend uses a different OS and he likes it then leave him be. Holy wars are useless.
Thank you for the link. I've been looking for a place to report the questionable ones (they all seem to come from the Netherlands).
;->
I know I wasn't nuts...., we not too nutes
Root? no. But there are a few hacks to crash a Mac (Open Transport bugs and such). Plus, now that MacOS 9 has TCP/IP File sharing some one might be able to do some damage (I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet).
-Fyre
(Please note that I'm a Mac user)
I stand corrected. I was going by what I was told by a ISP in your country when I reported some one posting under-aged girls in a newsgroup. I was told that 15 or 16 is legal there.
Okay, I can understand them wanting to get rid of Napster but this is scary! You don't like Napster and since you haven't been able to get rid of it (yet) you're going to cut it off the net (essentially)? Hell, I hate child porn but some of it's legal in Holland (15 y/o and up I think). So using their logic I should try to cut Holland of the net?