Just because they have H1B visa's doesn't mean it's an automatic ticket for extension. When taking the H1B visa's they knew it was a 6-year stint at the most.
I see no problem with, once their visa's expiring, having them sent home. That's what they knowingly agreed to.
The IT shortage is another topic entirely and is not relevant here.
These individuals agreed to something and the comments in the posting make it sound like it's the goverments fault. It's not. Just so happens it's what they agreed to.
I did the contracting route after I got out of school - it's a good way to get experience - get your name known aroung certain circles etc... but... I felt like I was a prostitue. They pay me this... I do this...
Now I still feel like a prostitute - just one on salery. They pay me this..... I do this....
Ya zee - itza notta zin zu makeza moonee. Idza zin to givez it awayza for free-ah. Youza little numbzkulla been geddin tooze mucha for free-ah. Youza needza put someza that moonee awayze. Buyza someding. Itz notza extortion racketz. Itza my life-a breada. I gotza getz paid-a.
I see no problem with it - as attempted in the poor attempt at parody above. ( Say it in a mafia voice ).
Palm deserves to charge what ever they see fit. They also deserve to take the consequences for their actions. If people don't like it - it'll be reflected in competitor's projects, in free-Palm-OS movement etc...
In short, it's Palm's decision - not yours so get over it.
Da**it - I wanted use of ePay or some online payment system. Guess I'll have to do it anonymously via an American Express card. Good things I've posted anonymously...
Da** cat! - She hit the mouse button and posted it.... Now everyone will know I own the Internet. Everyone now has to pay a 1cent / byte use tax.
Al Gorey gave an interview in which he mis-spoke and stated that he took the lead in bringing the inter-net about. Ever since then he's suffered for it.
Although he does make light of it on Lettermen etc.... better than Bush's flubbing of subliminalal.:-)
If you released your game as free with no restrictions whatsoever - then there's nothing you can do. Period.
If you did make a conditional release - such as keeping it free and acknowledging your authorship then try emailing the system contact for the sites. If that fails to get you anywhere then go to the ISP that they're using to host the sites.
If that still fails to get you anywhere - trying sending a letter to the copyright agency in the respective country. Mention honoring of US copyrights and the copyright agreements between the two countries and state that you expect action to take place.
If that fails - notify some of the local press for where the sites are located at.
If nobody's interested at that point then notify the advertisers of the site - before you do this make sure that everything you say can be proven clearly.
If all else fails, give it up -- make sure you do post it to all free software repositories.
All of the above should be taken with a grain of salt. I give advice but rarely take it. You shouldn't take my advice either unless you're really reckless.
I'm way too impatient to listen to people talk... I read much faster than most people talk.
While it would be tedious ( probably ) - it might be worthwhile to the readership/ slash-dotter-ship to transcribe the conversations into a file that can be perused at leisure. Perhaps post it as a regular article that can be reviewed and then commented on ??
There's two issues that the commenters are running into here. Intent and Action. The intent may be all well and good - educational, learning to be 'leet without any harm or ill malice towards the targeted machine.
The problem lies with the action the person took - If I go into a bank with good intents but happen to have a gun and wave it around and say give me $20.00; the bank teller is probably not going to ask me for my account number. I'll be arrested for bank robbery because of how I carried about my action - not because of my good intentions.
Freedom is not illegal. Abuse of it is. Deal with it. Grow up.
Whether a robber breaks into your house and takes something is not the issue. He broke into your house. Here, the stupid script kiddie ( probably ) broke in, and managed to lift some confidential information. It's that disregard for security that I find offensive. It should be punishable.
By just taking a major loss on e-business - woop-de-doo. Like that's really going to affect the company 3 years from now. Larger companies aren't so concerned about 1-time hits of 3 or 4 months duration - they're more concerned about their long-time PR etc... You think Ford really cares about the tire recall right now? For PR sake's they have to - but they know they'll weather this storm. ( in fact, I think it's more Firestone was at fault.. but anyway... ).
Memory is so fleeting. Time passes. People forget. Companies go on without a bump.
They shouldn't. They should hurt, feel pain and remember the lessons learned.
This should never have happened. With the proper safeguards - ie: having a 1 way cipher to the credit card data and then another machine not connected to the internet to process it; the accounts would merely be a jumble of characters and digits encoded.
Any company that does business on the Internet without proper safeguards ( which is what it sounds like... ) deserves to be sued.
Granted, my view may change - because there is not enough information about how - but this has happened at other sites and it still amazes me.
There are some areas in computers which are way too easy to use and which are actually a detriment to their use.
GUI:
Granted, gui's have increased the acceptance of computers and made them more wide-spread. That's a good thing - yet, people are also loosing the ability to individually finesse all the options of a program quickly. ( Yes, I prefer the command line ).
Programming:
Programming has gotten way to gui'ized ( Hey, new word - I'm gonna patent it so don't use it.) and as such most programs now are over-bloated, overly complex. Look at office ( okay, bad example - bad company ), at any major application. Most ( not all ) are memory hogs and internally go through a very complex "model" approach when, because of their limited implementation and support scope, would appear fine to just directly approach it.
You begin by finding the amount of energy consumed during their normal eating process. You then multiply it by the estimated number on earth at any given time. Add all those sums for the differant animals.
To further illustrate what this article is really about:
A rejoinder which consigns Joy to the realms of science fiction - which of us would
not applaud? Freitas' article is 30 pages long and contains a lot of complex sums. But
the point of these computations is not to tell us whether or not atomic nanorobots are
feasible. Instead, they tell us how to read the tell-tale signs of rampant robotic
procreation and what can be done to stop it. Freitas tells us how we can use global
warming to measure the spread of nanorobots. He also calculates the energy
consumption of all the insects and all the birds on the Earth. His paper has already
been presented to the U.S. authorities responsible for President Clinton's
nanotechnology initiative. It is an advisory paper intended for politicians.
Granted that I didn't read the article all the way through ( After 3 paragraphs who wanted to? ) but it seemed the article had little to do with Model & Metaphor and more to do with robots taking over the world and the author's fears as such.
The question of model and metaphor do bring up interesting questions about the cognitive process of human thinking... but the background given for who this person is I question to be writing anything about Model & Metaphor.... much less attributing anything like that to him.
What Napster has done is to act as a facillitator to illegal activity ( piracy ). What the RIAA has done is to mis-apply existing laws to try to stop Napster and it's entirely understandable on the RIAA's part. ( I don't support RIAA in regards to css ).
The judge should find for Napster because of the mis-application of laws that the RIAA wants. Congress should get off their fat buts ( take a look - they're really really fat - that's why the TV usually shows them from the waist up or just their heads ), and pass some laws to make the facillitation of illegal activity like this illegal.
This then brings up the question of activity regarding GnuTella and other distributed search / retrieval engines. Due to free speach concerns etc - these should not be limited or constricted in any way. Any encouragement or activity to facillitate illegal activity should be addressed on who / what company is doing the encouragement / facillitating. Society can either be totally free or totally restricted. I'd rather see it totally free and have the RIAA follow up with the individual users.
After it started scanning the/. directories it bombed out with a message that it had allocated too much memory ( I've got 192+swap for 256k). I'm sorta suspect of a simple scanner needing more than this...
One warning - it gobbles memory fast. If you run it, run it during a very idle time.
If you carry the DOS attacks out to an extreme and imagine a virus that could replicate through email or what-not and at a pre-programmed date/time automatically start bombing numerous major sites it would effectively cripple the web because of the amount of bandwith involved.
Does IPv6 support a "pass-back" of telling the source-root router to no longer forward packets from a given IP ?? Is there any possible extensions that are planned / or could be implemented to circumvent this type of scenario?
For those of you who have read the article ( What's that in the back ? - I think I see one person who did ) - it's pretty apparent that thw way the questions were asked it was designed to elicit this type of response. Some of the questions made referance to a Microsoft statement in the beginning, ie: Some believe Microsoft should be broken up... Would you support a Goverkment agency having oversite over Technology type stuff.... The two are not necessarily related. Mentioning Micro$oft only serves to support later questions that deal directly with Microsoft.
Why isn't there any abstractive cut-and-dried rules on how to evaluate how weighted, mis-leading a quiz or survey is so that that figure could then be legislated into having to be mentioned anytime the results are? The survey is accurate within 3% doesn't cut it....
Aah, Media people - Willing to byte at anything. Aah, Publicists - willing to give anything.
The problem with this injunction, the patent filing etc is that theree is way too much reliance upon the rule of law, rather then the spirit of the law.
It's ridiculous - common sense should prevail in courts over any fine technicalities and varying interpretations of prior rulings.
Somebody reverse engineered a trade secret. Oops - Guess it's not a trade secret anymore. Therefore, it's legal as the cat it out of the bag like any other trade secret.
Passing laws or hiring lobbyists to pass laws to protect your trade secrets is a low and dirty act. Laws are meant to protect people as a group - not coorporations - indvidual corpoerations specifically.
The laws just going to get more and more ridiculous... One day somebody will put on a smart hat and say, Geesh - Why don't we just look at things for how they are
This brings up the whole issue of there being too many computer languages in general. Python I've never learned so I don't know if it's suitable for the task or not but when last looking for some graphics / net language for programming I was swamped by everything that was out there. It'd be nice to have one language with extensions that are reasonable, and understandable. ( I know - languages like this probably exist - but how _reasonable_ are they? How understandable are they? )
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I see no problem with, once their visa's expiring, having them sent home. That's what they knowingly agreed to.
The IT shortage is another topic entirely and is not relevant here.
These individuals agreed to something and the comments in the posting make it sound like it's the goverments fault. It's not. Just so happens it's what they agreed to.
Now I still feel like a prostitute - just one on salery. They pay me this ..... I do this....
All in how you look at it I guess...
Ya zee - itza notta zin zu makeza moonee. Idza zin to givez it awayza for free-ah. Youza little numbzkulla been geddin tooze mucha for free-ah. Youza needza put someza that moonee awayze. Buyza someding. Itz notza extortion racketz. Itza my life-a breada. I gotza getz paid-a.
I see no problem with it - as attempted in the poor attempt at parody above. ( Say it in a mafia voice ).
Palm deserves to charge what ever they see fit. They also deserve to take the consequences for their actions. If people don't like it - it'll be reflected in competitor's projects, in free-Palm-OS movement etc...
In short, it's Palm's decision - not yours so get over it.
Da** cat! - She hit the mouse button and posted it.... Now everyone will know I own the Internet. Everyone now has to pay a 1cent / byte use tax.
Although he does make light of it on Lettermen etc.... better than Bush's flubbing of subliminalal. :-)
Hmmm, what kind of idiot would it take to buy something from someone who isn't really Al Gore?
Oh. Oops - I forgot the calibar of people on the net...
Another story for e-crime pundits I guess...
If you released your game as free with no restrictions whatsoever - then there's nothing you can do. Period.
If you did make a conditional release - such as keeping it free and acknowledging your authorship then try emailing the system contact for the sites. If that fails to get you anywhere then go to the ISP that they're using to host the sites.
If that still fails to get you anywhere - trying sending a letter to the copyright agency in the respective country. Mention honoring of US copyrights and the copyright agreements between the two countries and state that you expect action to take place.
If that fails - notify some of the local press for where the sites are located at.
If nobody's interested at that point then notify the advertisers of the site - before you do this make sure that everything you say can be proven clearly.
If all else fails, give it up -- make sure you do post it to all free software repositories.
All of the above should be taken with a grain of salt. I give advice but rarely take it. You shouldn't take my advice either unless you're really reckless.
Hrm, # of keyboards * 2grams * 12 months = enough to feed a third world country.
While it would be tedious ( probably ) - it might be worthwhile to the readership/ slash-dotter-ship to transcribe the conversations into a file that can be perused at leisure. Perhaps post it as a regular article that can be reviewed and then commented on ??
The problem lies with the action the person took - If I go into a bank with good intents but happen to have a gun and wave it around and say give me $20.00; the bank teller is probably not going to ask me for my account number. I'll be arrested for bank robbery because of how I carried about my action - not because of my good intentions.
Freedom is not illegal. Abuse of it is. Deal with it. Grow up.
By just taking a major loss on e-business - woop-de-doo. Like that's really going to affect the company 3 years from now. Larger companies aren't so concerned about 1-time hits of 3 or 4 months duration - they're more concerned about their long-time PR etc... You think Ford really cares about the tire recall right now? For PR sake's they have to - but they know they'll weather this storm. ( in fact, I think it's more Firestone was at fault.. but anyway... ).
Memory is so fleeting. Time passes. People forget. Companies go on without a bump.
They shouldn't. They should hurt, feel pain and remember the lessons learned.
Any company that does business on the Internet without proper safeguards ( which is what it sounds like ... ) deserves to be sued.
Granted, my view may change - because there is not enough information about how - but this has happened at other sites and it still amazes me.
GUI:
Granted, gui's have increased the acceptance of computers and made them more wide-spread. That's a good thing - yet, people are also loosing the ability to individually finesse all the options of a program quickly. ( Yes, I prefer the command line ).
Programming:
Programming has gotten way to gui'ized ( Hey, new word - I'm gonna patent it so don't use it.) and as such most programs now are over-bloated, overly complex. Look at office ( okay, bad example - bad company ), at any major application. Most ( not all ) are memory hogs and internally go through a very complex "model" approach when, because of their limited implementation and support scope, would appear fine to just directly approach it.
In summary: GUI != OOP. OOP != Great Programming.
Simple.
You begin by finding the amount of energy consumed during their normal eating process. You then multiply it by the estimated number on earth at any given time. Add all those sums for the differant animals.
Ontopic:
Nope. Nada. Nothing comes to mind.
The question of model and metaphor do bring up interesting questions about the cognitive process of human thinking ... but the background given for who this person is I question to be writing anything about Model & Metaphor .... much less attributing anything like that to him.
How many of you have read the article?
What Napster has done is to act as a facillitator to illegal activity ( piracy ). What the RIAA has done is to mis-apply existing laws to try to stop Napster and it's entirely understandable on the RIAA's part. ( I don't support RIAA in regards to css ).
The judge should find for Napster because of the mis-application of laws that the RIAA wants. Congress should get off their fat buts ( take a look - they're really really fat - that's why the TV usually shows them from the waist up or just their heads ), and pass some laws to make the facillitation of illegal activity like this illegal.
This then brings up the question of activity regarding GnuTella and other distributed search / retrieval engines. Due to free speach concerns etc - these should not be limited or constricted in any way. Any encouragement or activity to facillitate illegal activity should be addressed on who / what company is doing the encouragement / facillitating. Society can either be totally free or totally restricted. I'd rather see it totally free and have the RIAA follow up with the individual users.
Uh, duh. Make that 256megs, not 256k.
:-)
After it started scanning the /. directories it bombed out with a message that it had allocated too much memory ( I've got 192+swap for 256k). I'm sorta suspect of a simple scanner needing more than this...
One warning - it gobbles memory fast. If you run it, run it during a very idle time.
If you carry the DOS attacks out to an extreme and imagine a virus that could replicate through email or what-not and at a pre-programmed date/time automatically start bombing numerous major sites it would effectively cripple the web because of the amount of bandwith involved.
Does IPv6 support a "pass-back" of telling the source-root router to no longer forward packets from a given IP ?? Is there any possible extensions that are planned / or could be implemented to circumvent this type of scenario?
For those of you who have read the article ( What's that in the back ? - I think I see one person who did ) - it's pretty apparent that thw way the questions were asked it was designed to elicit this type of response. Some of the questions made referance to a Microsoft statement in the beginning, ie: Some believe Microsoft should be broken up... Would you support a Goverkment agency having oversite over Technology type stuff.... The two are not necessarily related. Mentioning Micro$oft only serves to support later questions that deal directly with Microsoft.
Why isn't there any abstractive cut-and-dried rules on how to evaluate how weighted, mis-leading a quiz or survey is so that that figure could then be legislated into having to be mentioned anytime the results are? The survey is accurate within 3% doesn't cut it....
Aah, Media people - Willing to byte at anything. Aah, Publicists - willing to give anything.
It's ridiculous - common sense should prevail in courts over any fine technicalities and varying interpretations of prior rulings.
Somebody reverse engineered a trade secret. Oops - Guess it's not a trade secret anymore. Therefore, it's legal as the cat it out of the bag like any other trade secret.
Passing laws or hiring lobbyists to pass laws to protect your trade secrets is a low and dirty act. Laws are meant to protect people as a group - not coorporations - indvidual corpoerations specifically.
The laws just going to get more and more ridiculous... One day somebody will put on a smart hat and say, Geesh - Why don't we just look at things for how they are
This brings up the whole issue of there being too many computer languages in general. Python I've never learned so I don't know if it's suitable for the task or not but when last looking for some graphics / net language for programming I was swamped by everything that was out there. It'd be nice to have one language with extensions that are reasonable, and understandable. ( I know - languages like this probably exist - but how _reasonable_ are they? How understandable are they? )