They already have. I own three Loki games, and they all worked straight out of the box.
So you're saying those 3 games represent every game available for Linux? And because those three games worked immediately, that means ALL games for Linux do the same? That's a bad assumption.
What did I install? Everything on linux.3dfx.com that pertains to my system setup, as well as the latest q3demo from quake3.com.
Exactly? Got me... I've done so much shit to this box to try to get Q3 working, I'm not even entirely sure. But I think I can assume I have the latest versions of everything installed. (Except for the X server. I don't think I figured out how to get that in there.)
How is this going to affect the price of their products?
A standard NE2000 NIC card runs about $15. TurboLinux 6.0 runs $19.99. I don't mind buying NIC cards because they're cheap. If the price stays the same then consumers would be happy, but A) Linksys has no incentive to bundle, and B) TurboLinux makes no money from the bundle. If the price goes up, consumers will buy other cards (Like D-Link, which I have had good luck with) because they're still hovering around the $12-$15 price range.
But if the price goes up, what's the difference between buying a Linksys Card with TurboLinux bundled, or buy a different card and TurboLinux seperately....other than conveniance?
I actually took a day to try and get this thing working, and I haven't got it yet. I read the Step-by-step guide on the Loki GLDrivers page (I have a 3dfx voodoo3) and I have my system to the point where/usr/local/glide/bin/test3Dfx works fine. I've read the FAQs, the READMEs, and everything on linux.3dfx.com. Nothing seems to help.
/dev/3dfx is installed as well.
While we don't technically support the demo, we do want you to have a good experience with it (how else are we going to sell anything?) and will gladly provide a few pointers to get you going.
I appriciate that. Believe me, when and if I get this working I *will* buy the game.:)
Hot-Plug CPUs? Jesus, that's scary. I'd be afraid to do it, even if I had a Motorola technician walk me through it. It's just so...so WRONG.
That's almost like plugging in an ISA card while the computer is compiling a kernel. *shiver* I actually pulled an ISA NIC card out of a running computer by accident once. The computer locked up, but I was astounded that after a reboot, everything worked fine (Including the NIC!)
Next they're gonna tell me the machine supports direct-circuit contact Water Cooling. (RUN! ACK!)
When do you think Linux Games will evolve to the point of working correctly straight out of the box?
The reason I ask, is because I've been drooling over the thought of buying Quake 3 for Linux -- But the thing that stops me is the q3demo didn't work properly. I downloaded it, and installed it (the shell script installer was fantastic, by the way), but when I run it, it runs at about 1 frame per second from start to finish (From the ID Software logo, to the menus, to the game, right to the exit screen.) I've tried for a long long time to get it working, and to no avail. Windows sucks but Games work - Both well, and immediately.
Because of this, I haven't bought Quake 3 yet. I want to know it *WILL WORK* so I'm not stuck with a $50 piece of software that is of no use to me.
Yes. It's mostly gaseous. (Which if you consider it, would kind of eliminate the idea of 'crashing')
If there is life there, it doesn't resemble anything we have on earth
Of course it doesn't. Which is why the search for life shouldn't be based SOLELY on the search for water. Yeah, it's a great starting point, but there is no guarantee that life everywhere NEEDS water to survive.
whatever we bring from earth wouldn't be able to survive if it got there.
Prove it. Do you know for sure? If you do, what do you base your proof on? How do you know 100% that Earth-based life would not/could not survive on Jupiter?
it'd crap all over lots of our biological and astronomical theories
There are only 2 absolute results to all theories. They're either proven, or broken.
that doesn't mean it's possible.
It doesn't mean it's impossible either.
By the way, that last part was a joke. Haven't you ever seen Star Trek: The motion picture? (God, I HATE explaining jokes.)
A member of the Galileo imaging team says NASA are considering crashing the spacecraft into Jupiter or one of its icy moons in 2002 because it might still contain microbes from Earth.
Great. So those microbes take a plunge on to a new planet. Fast forward 5 billion years, and those microbes have populated Jupiter and have created life on an otherwise lifeless planet. We've just infected Jupiter!
"Just to be sure, they want to get rid of it and make sure it doesn't go into Europa, where we have a possible habitat of some kind of extraterrestrial life."
Soooooo.....What happens if the crash site is currently occupied with Life Forms that we DON'T suspect, hmm? So in an ironic ending to the life of Galileo, it crashes into a planet with life forms and introduces extra-Jupiterian life to divide and conquer.
Or, we could send it off into deep space, and discover it 300 years from now as a tremendous space probe named G'leo.
Oh, being not-for-profit is entirely false. Ask Redhat how much their stock is worth.
For the last friggin time:
Red Hat != Linux
All of the Linux Community is not getting Red Hat's chunk of change. And most, if not all of the programmers who code additions for the kernel are NOT getting paid for it.
That is called Non-Profit. Red Hat is a COMPANY. Linux is a KERNEL. How the hell do you equate the two?
Does anyone know where I can find some better specifications for this unit? I looked on the Samsung website (http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/ pda/index.htm), and it said the CPU was a"Strong CPU of High Performance". That's great, but what speed is it?
The reason I ask, is it would be pretty easy (?) to run the distributed.net client(s), and if it has a reasonably fast processor, it wouldn't be a waste.
I'm sorry, but, well, there are just too many mail characters.
God, you are so right. Especially in games like Postal.;)
Anyway, I definitely agree with your second point about women in games being stylish. They usually are sexy, and dress nice, and are very smart. These all make attractive traits for females. That's probably what lures males to 'be' them.
How many game players sampled played Tomb Raider? I ask this because you don't have any other choice than to play a female role. Considering this, how many games were reviewed that had exclusive female characters?
In Quake III, I usually play the female skin. Not because I want to explore my feminine side, but because she seems to move quickly, and more gracefully, plus she's not this big grunt that you can see/hit easily.
Fifteen subjects, or 23%, reported that they play female characters because they are "more aesthetically pleasing" than male characters.
That goes for real life too. The female form is a much more pleasing shape to look at than the male form. (Don't think I'm biased because I'm male, ladies. Anyone who's ever studied art knows this.)
Respondents commented that if they have to see a character running round a game for hours on end, they prefer to be looking at a sexy female rather than a hairy male.
Duh...
Yeah, I'll agree with most aspects of the article. I do catch myself occasionally wondering what it would be like to be a female in life situations. Every guy does this. If you say you don't, you're a liar. Once you accept you are male early in life, it's natural to wonder what it would be like to be female. I also say that anyone who says "Oh God, you're a guy and you're playing a FEMALE?" is pretty insecure about themselves.
Some guys want to explore feminity, that's fine with me. I'll do the same. (Although I think I need to cut down on those weekend trysts with Barbie Dream Designer.;)
While searching for the origins of a very funny German ad to learn english (A family is listening to a very vulgar song, and enjoying the hell out of it) I stumbled across something interesting from Google when doing a search of the song's lyrics:
All in all, I would say that Microsoft is a good place to work. (I read the article, and nothing in there struck me as 'spooky'.) Quite the opposite, it seems like a motivated place to work where you have lots of creative and technical freedom. It's good when your management says "You think that should be this way? Go for it."
The author also brings up a good point:
If there is something you love or hate about Microsoft programs, don't thank or blame Bill Gates; some specific member of the Microsoft team decided to "own" that feature and include it in a program.
Everyone who gets fed up with a program at one point (partly humoursly) says "I HATE BILL GATES!" assuming he's the one who screwed up their computer. People are quick to say that since he's the richest man in the world, and he's in charge of Microsoft, it must have been HIM that wrote every single line of code in every single product -- Therefore, this blue screen is HIS FAULT. Bzzzt, Wrong. (Sure, everyone knows this but too few actually REALIZE this.)
There is even a person who created the "It looks like you're writing a letter" auto-annoyance feature in Word. I had to sign a separate confidentiality clause promising not to name him.
That's because he'd probably be jumped in the parking lot the day this article was published.;)
Note: No, I DON'T work for Microsoft, I don't worship their software, and I love Linux. So toss your predisposed judgements in the garbage.
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High doses of Vitamin C can lead to Kidney Stones, although since they're water soluable, they pass through sweat and urine. (Large levels of Vitamin C are also dangerous for people who suffer from hemochromatosis (sp?), also known as Iron Overload Disease, causing serious problems, even death. Vitamin C absorbs Iron, and people who suffer from this disease have way too much iron as it is.
Nothing bad, usually. In fact, when some vitamins are taken in larger amounts, they actually have preventative effects on the body. Toxic vitamin levels are a possibility, but rare. (300% isn't much of a problem, but when you hit 1000%+, then you may run into problems. Especially with fat-soluable vitamins like A, K, and E.
I'm not a doctor, so don't take the above as a replacement for doctor's advice.
Jolt is more of a drug than sustenance. Yeah, it gives you a blow of caffeine, but it has damn near no nutritional value. (Don't get me wrong, I like Jolt, but it's not what I'd have in place of dinner.)
4. It's very possible that a straight line is not always the shortest path between two points. Wormholes, people!
A wormhole? Shortest path, perhaps....but Wormholes do not change the distance from one object to the next. They just get you there a hell of a lot faster by bending and shifting spacetime. (Physicists have been trying for a long time to mathematically construct wormholes that won't collapse on on themselves, fly apart, or break other laws of physics....but it hasn't been done yet.)
Also, wormholes are theoretical. So until they're proven, 13 billion light years it is.:)
They will not Open Source the linux [sic] source code, they will license out the viewing of the source code to other companies [...] And the license will be very strict, like an NDA.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. They ALREADY do this. (And if the article were talking about something Microsoft has done for years, wouldn't that be a pretty pointless article?)
You are just reiterating what I already said.
No, I'm disagreeing with what you said, and supplying points to back up my opinion.
I dont understand why you think they are obligated to show the linux community the source code, especially if like you say, they consider linux a competitor.
How fast did you read the article? Look Again:
"Microsoft would be willing to open the source code for its Windows software to competitors in order to settle the antitrust case filed by the U.S. Justice Department, chairman Bill Gates said."
That says to "competitors"!!! That is the very first paragraph of the article. And since Microsoft has openly acknowledged Linux as a competitor, I would say that justifies an obligation.
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So you're saying those 3 games represent every game available for Linux? And because those three games worked immediately, that means ALL games for Linux do the same? That's a bad assumption.
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I answered 69 out of 200 questions. (Judging by some of those questions, I'm pretty sure I'm one of the more well-behaved members of Slashdot.)
61. [ ] Have you ever continued a flame war over private email?
Jeez! heh
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Exactly? Got me... I've done so much shit to this box to try to get Q3 working, I'm not even entirely sure. But I think I can assume I have the latest versions of everything installed. (Except for the X server. I don't think I figured out how to get that in there.)
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A standard NE2000 NIC card runs about $15. TurboLinux 6.0 runs $19.99. I don't mind buying NIC cards because they're cheap. If the price stays the same then consumers would be happy, but A) Linksys has no incentive to bundle, and B) TurboLinux makes no money from the bundle. If the price goes up, consumers will buy other cards (Like D-Link, which I have had good luck with) because they're still hovering around the $12-$15 price range.
But if the price goes up, what's the difference between buying a Linksys Card with TurboLinux bundled, or buy a different card and TurboLinux seperately....other than conveniance?
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/dev/3dfx is installed as well.
While we don't technically support the demo, we do want you to have a good experience with it (how else are we going to sell anything?) and will gladly provide a few pointers to get you going.
I appriciate that. Believe me, when and if I get this working I *will* buy the game.
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That's almost like plugging in an ISA card while the computer is compiling a kernel. *shiver* I actually pulled an ISA NIC card out of a running computer by accident once. The computer locked up, but I was astounded that after a reboot, everything worked fine (Including the NIC!)
Next they're gonna tell me the machine supports direct-circuit contact Water Cooling. (RUN! ACK!)
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The reason I ask, is because I've been drooling over the thought of buying Quake 3 for Linux -- But the thing that stops me is the q3demo didn't work properly. I downloaded it, and installed it (the shell script installer was fantastic, by the way), but when I run it, it runs at about 1 frame per second from start to finish (From the ID Software logo, to the menus, to the game, right to the exit screen.) I've tried for a long long time to get it working, and to no avail. Windows sucks but Games work - Both well, and immediately.
Because of this, I haven't bought Quake 3 yet. I want to know it *WILL WORK* so I'm not stuck with a $50 piece of software that is of no use to me.
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Yes. It's mostly gaseous. (Which if you consider it, would kind of eliminate the idea of 'crashing')
If there is life there, it doesn't resemble anything we have on earth
Of course it doesn't. Which is why the search for life shouldn't be based SOLELY on the search for water. Yeah, it's a great starting point, but there is no guarantee that life everywhere NEEDS water to survive.
whatever we bring from earth wouldn't be able to survive if it got there.
Prove it. Do you know for sure? If you do, what do you base your proof on? How do you know 100% that Earth-based life would not/could not survive on Jupiter?
it'd crap all over lots of our biological and astronomical theories
There are only 2 absolute results to all theories. They're either proven, or broken.
that doesn't mean it's possible.
It doesn't mean it's impossible either.
By the way, that last part was a joke. Haven't you ever seen Star Trek: The motion picture? (God, I HATE explaining jokes.)
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Great. So those microbes take a plunge on to a new planet. Fast forward 5 billion years, and those microbes have populated Jupiter and have created life on an otherwise lifeless planet. We've just infected Jupiter!
"Just to be sure, they want to get rid of it and make sure it doesn't go into Europa, where we have a possible habitat of some kind of extraterrestrial life."
Soooooo.....What happens if the crash site is currently occupied with Life Forms that we DON'T suspect, hmm? So in an ironic ending to the life of Galileo, it crashes into a planet with life forms and introduces extra-Jupiterian life to divide and conquer.
Or, we could send it off into deep space, and discover it 300 years from now as a tremendous space probe named G'leo.
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For the last friggin time:
Red Hat != Linux
All of the Linux Community is not getting Red Hat's chunk of change. And most, if not all of the programmers who code additions for the kernel are NOT getting paid for it.
That is called Non-Profit. Red Hat is a COMPANY. Linux is a KERNEL. How the hell do you equate the two?
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The reason I ask, is it would be pretty easy (?) to run the distributed.net client(s), and if it has a reasonably fast processor, it wouldn't be a waste.
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God, you are so right. Especially in games like Postal.
Anyway, I definitely agree with your second point about women in games being stylish. They usually are sexy, and dress nice, and are very smart. These all make attractive traits for females. That's probably what lures males to 'be' them.
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In Quake III, I usually play the female skin. Not because I want to explore my feminine side, but because she seems to move quickly, and more gracefully, plus she's not this big grunt that you can see/hit easily.
Fifteen subjects, or 23%, reported that they play female characters because they are "more aesthetically pleasing" than male characters.
That goes for real life too. The female form is a much more pleasing shape to look at than the male form. (Don't think I'm biased because I'm male, ladies. Anyone who's ever studied art knows this.)
Respondents commented that if they have to see a character running round a game for hours on end, they prefer to be looking at a sexy female rather than a hairy male.
Duh...
Yeah, I'll agree with most aspects of the article. I do catch myself occasionally wondering what it would be like to be a female in life situations. Every guy does this. If you say you don't, you're a liar. Once you accept you are male early in life, it's natural to wonder what it would be like to be female. I also say that anyone who says "Oh God, you're a guy and you're playing a FEMALE?" is pretty insecure about themselves.
Some guys want to explore feminity, that's fine with me. I'll do the same. (Although I think I need to cut down on those weekend trysts with Barbie Dream Designer.
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Do a Google Search for: I wanna fuck you in the ass
Have a look at the first result on THAT one.
After seeing that, I tried a variation. The first few search results are QUITE amusing:
Fuck you up the ass - Amusingly, those few search results DO JUST THAT!
Here's a well known search: More evil than the devil himself
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The author also brings up a good point:
If there is something you love or hate about Microsoft programs, don't thank or blame Bill Gates; some specific member of the Microsoft team decided to "own" that feature and include it in a program.
Everyone who gets fed up with a program at one point (partly humoursly) says "I HATE BILL GATES!" assuming he's the one who screwed up their computer. People are quick to say that since he's the richest man in the world, and he's in charge of Microsoft, it must have been HIM that wrote every single line of code in every single product -- Therefore, this blue screen is HIS FAULT. Bzzzt, Wrong. (Sure, everyone knows this but too few actually REALIZE this.)
There is even a person who created the "It looks like you're writing a letter" auto-annoyance feature in Word. I had to sign a separate confidentiality clause promising not to name him.
That's because he'd probably be jumped in the parking lot the day this article was published.
Note: No, I DON'T work for Microsoft, I don't worship their software, and I love Linux. So toss your predisposed judgements in the garbage.
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Ah, run for the woods.
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Nothing bad, usually. In fact, when some vitamins are taken in larger amounts, they actually have preventative effects on the body. Toxic vitamin levels are a possibility, but rare. (300% isn't much of a problem, but when you hit 1000%+, then you may run into problems. Especially with fat-soluable vitamins like A, K, and E.
I'm not a doctor, so don't take the above as a replacement for doctor's advice.
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Jolt is more of a drug than sustenance. Yeah, it gives you a blow of caffeine, but it has damn near no nutritional value. (Don't get me wrong, I like Jolt, but it's not what I'd have in place of dinner.)
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A wormhole? Shortest path, perhaps....but Wormholes do not change the distance from one object to the next. They just get you there a hell of a lot faster by bending and shifting spacetime. (Physicists have been trying for a long time to mathematically construct wormholes that won't collapse on on themselves, fly apart, or break other laws of physics....but it hasn't been done yet.)
Also, wormholes are theoretical. So until they're proven, 13 billion light years it is.
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Your PROPOSAL is already in effect. You said:
They will not Open Source the linux [sic] source code, they will license out the viewing of the source code to other companies [...] And the license will be very strict, like an NDA.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. They ALREADY do this. (And if the article were talking about something Microsoft has done for years, wouldn't that be a pretty pointless article?)
You are just reiterating what I already said.
No, I'm disagreeing with what you said, and supplying points to back up my opinion.
I dont understand why you think they are obligated to show the linux community the source code, especially if like you say, they consider linux a competitor.
How fast did you read the article? Look Again:
"Microsoft would be willing to open the source code for its Windows software to competitors in order to settle the antitrust case filed by the U.S. Justice Department, chairman Bill Gates said."
That says to "competitors"!!! That is the very first paragraph of the article. And since Microsoft has openly acknowledged Linux as a competitor, I would say that justifies an obligation.
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