I don't know what's more interesting: that there's no clear indication M$ financed this report or that there are growing indications that someone's trying to distance its association from M$ as much as is humanly possible. You can almost picture a war-room with BG and SB donning headsets and communicating with field PR operatives at the AP over encrypted UV communications channels. Funny shit!
UnitedLinux appears to attain to standardize the core of Linux distributions similar to the goal of the Linux Standards Base project from what I've read thus far. What distinguishes the UL project from the LSB project: goals? approach? an effort to competitively differentiate Caldera from RedHat?
At first glance, this project appears to be geared more to bolstering the marketing position of the distros (esp. Caldera) involved relative to RedHat than to furthering overall Linux market penetration. As a developer, I'd like to be clear on what you're trying to accomplish.
The only model that fits with M$'s corporate charter is profit, profit, and more profit. Otherwise why would the richest guy in the world still be trying to get richer. It's like a badly addicted Quake player who's already beat the game countless times. He just goes to other networks to beat other users to further prove to himself how supreme he is.
Leave them to do what they will. We all know you to be an accomplished coder: don't waste time trying to turn a zealous capitalist into an altruistic contributor to the common knowledge-base. Just keep coding...
Me and my 4 singing buddies would like to go, too. A certain Russian opportunity to fly into space fell through, so this would be great! I just had some heart tests done that say my health is good enough for space flight. Say; do they have Burger Kings there? We did a CD for them a couple years back and get free Whoppers for life...
The case is in Australia. They don't have a 1st Amendment there, but I agree with your argument as it pertains to the U.S.
Whoever tied "Freedom of Speech" to the Spam issue did a huge disservice to anyone whoever dreamt of making an honest living on the Internet in this lifetime...
Oddly enough, I got caught up in tech when MIDI came around and I could do more with my songwriting using it. I've since picked up the guitar, but along the way I got more immersed in tech than music.
About a year ago, I shifted priorities, let the screensaver keep the PC company at 5pm and go pick up the guitar / keys for the rest of the day.
Of course, not everyone plays the guitar; some people don't have any other interests (and, that's not a bad thing). But, be grateful you still know how to break free. Enjoy the walk. Great point!
So, for $120/yr Bell South gets your undivided attention and you get to be $120 poorer but will still be bugged by Bell South. Yup, sounds like a great deal. (BTW, the only TM calls I've received this week are 3 from Qwest.)
Just think if the highway dep't in your state offered you a $120/yr fee for them to prevent adolescent kids from throwing rocks and oranges at your car whilst you drove about town... Of course, if you didn't pay the $120/yr, you wouldn't get the service and your car would have a lot of nicks and dents in it.
I realize the analogy isn't the best, but think about it: $120/yr to not get harrassed, and then only not harrassed by everyone except the people who you pay for the service? Sounds like graft to me....
Any ideas what this lifespan is? What about for (E)IDE drives?
I've got 2 - 3 GB drives still working after 8 yrs full-time use. I've had more IDE drives (IBM, Western Digital) die in the past 2 years that were purchased w/in the last 4 years than I can count.
The drives keep getting bigger, and for those of us who only want 10GB to run a server, it seems like a good idea to steer clear of 250 TB IBM EIDE drives at Fry's, especially when they're not recommended for fulltime use. I'd imagine other people have made this observation.
The term "precise" is strategic in M$' defense. It's been used throughout the trial when M$ (or BG) has been accused of being evasive. Consider the word "innovate" and M$ marketing / anti-AntiTrust campaigning. This is another useful term for them.
Re:I'm going to have to write a virus wuth a EULA
on
Spyware Fights Back
·
· Score: 1
Would be even better with a disabled close control on the messagebox.
My last employer put together a contract for a charter school a few years back for 25 workstations and a server (win95 / winnt), 4 printers and cd-server that never worked (but got hacked a few times). Total bid was about $80K ($55K for machines, $3K for our services and the rest for licensing). I remember thinking what a shame that so much was tied up in licensing (25 workstation licenses; plus Office; plus the 50-user NT license.)
If the licensing had been a little more reasonable, the school would have been able to afford more of our services and we probably would have been able to make their network more useful as a result. I ended up spending a couple hundred hours of my own over a couple years to help nurse things along, but I recall thinking that if the school licensing had been given to the school, they could have gotten a lot more value out of it. Also, since most of the 300, or so students were entering the business world in a few years, having them trained in M$ tools would have been great for the software vendor.
It's too bad M$ doesn't take a different approach to licensing for schools. It would be a great tax write-off and would further proliferation of M$-based skillsets to further promote their software in businesses, where these youths would eventually wind up. Not to mention a much better PR message than this article sends. I hope people consider things like this when the Bill and Melissa Gates foundation offers token contributions for their pet projects. A little perspective....
There's more to systems administration than having irritating dialog boxes asking you to authorize inbound port 80 connections. These types of processes are end user activities, for which it sounds you're more inclined. If you don't have the patience to analyze packet data, don't be a network administrator. Be an end user instead and don't complain about how hard it is to be a system administrator.
Of course, I'm assuming this is your lot. If the original poster hadn't struck a nerve, I doubt you'd have replied. No offense, but network administration is hardly child's play. It's difficult for a reason. Some people aren't qualified to do it. M$ is educating PHBs incorrectly, which was the original poster's point and I agree with it....
"Sanders agreed he had not read the states' proposals." (from the follow-up story)
Yes, I believe people are hearing other messages. It seems Sanders hass been swiftly discredited. Not a good sign considering you'd think the defense's first witness would be selected strategically.
The reason it affects me is that there is no version of Cakewalk Pro Audio for Linux/UNIX, which I would gladly pay for. The reason there isn't is because there is no other consumer OS but Windows for which programmers are willing to program.
Windows has a big disadvantage when it comes to competing with every other operating system out there. It has to run on every imaginiable intel platform out there...
How is Windows disadvantaged? Linux runs on all the following: alpha cris ia64 mips parisc s390 sh sparc64 arm i386 m68k mips64 ppc s390x sparc
WRT voiding of warrantees, keep in mind this is software. If M$ put their software together correctly, it would be secure, stable, and prevent installation of rogue software by the end user correctly, instead of threatening them through the EULA.
Windows is $300 for an upgrade for the FIRST YEAR! That is approaching the cost of the actual PC! I would expect anything I spend $300/yr to be perfect!
But, it isn't. And, if it can't be modularized in a way to keep it manageable to windows developers, at least show me some KDE desktops at Best Buy. Your dad doesn't need to run Linux, but shouldn't he have the right to judge that for himself? Perhaps he could use the extra $250 he'd save for other things. Or, perhaps he could pay a more reasonable fee for windows if other OSes were allowed to be sold at the Gateway store.
Do you have a fundamental right to use your computer _with_ _their_ _software_ as you wish?
No, but if there were choices for competing operating systems in the consumer electronics space, I'd make it a point to deal with OS software vendors who didn't saddle my property rights by exerting their own over mine.
You mean forcing the *competitors* to implement the ACPI specification... This is where it gets sticky. Open Source OS vendors are still at the mercy of what OEM hardware manufacturers give them, which is still dictated by M$ via legacy contracts, agreements, and the fact that these OEM's still clearly give M$ priority to ensure they are perceived as Redmond-Compatable. These legacy factors exist still; there has been no resolution on the Anti-Trust matters and no discipline evoked, nor any marketplace changes to restore competition instilled.
If XP can run without soldering shut ACPI settings to the end-user but rather by simply shipping the motherboard in the setting M$ wants, that should have no impact on the XP OS running on it if those "buggy" technologies have been disabled. But, now the consumer has a motherboard analagous to a win-modem in that they can't choose another OS before replacing their motherboard. Good for the consumer? Innovative?
Read a couple M$ EULA's. Those licenses exert more than just trivial rights over _my_ property if I accept them. In fact, the intellectual property rights of M$ trump my physical property rights (my computer hardware) under such licenses.
Such a property rights argument is a very shaky one both legally and morally...
Slashdot Mirror
Mod this up. Awesome discovery!
I don't know what's more interesting: that there's no clear indication M$ financed this report or that there are growing indications that someone's trying to distance its association from M$ as much as is humanly possible. You can almost picture a war-room with BG and SB donning headsets and communicating with field PR operatives at the AP over encrypted UV communications channels. Funny shit!
be even cooler if he changed his first name to "Random..."
UnitedLinux appears to attain to standardize the core of Linux distributions similar to the goal of the Linux Standards Base project from what I've read thus far. What distinguishes the UL project from the LSB project: goals? approach? an effort to competitively differentiate Caldera from RedHat?
At first glance, this project appears to be geared more to bolstering the marketing position of the distros (esp. Caldera) involved relative to RedHat than to furthering overall Linux market penetration. As a developer, I'd like to be clear on what you're trying to accomplish.
The only model that fits with M$'s corporate charter is profit, profit, and more profit. Otherwise why would the richest guy in the world still be trying to get richer. It's like a badly addicted Quake player who's already beat the game countless times. He just goes to other networks to beat other users to further prove to himself how supreme he is.
Leave them to do what they will. We all know you to be an accomplished coder: don't waste time trying to turn a zealous capitalist into an altruistic contributor to the common knowledge-base. Just keep coding...
Me and my 4 singing buddies would like to go, too. A certain Russian opportunity to fly into space fell through, so this would be great! I just had some heart tests done that say my health is good enough for space flight. Say; do they have Burger Kings there? We did a CD for them a couple years back and get free Whoppers for life...
The case is in Australia. They don't have a 1st Amendment there, but I agree with your argument as it pertains to the U.S.
Whoever tied "Freedom of Speech" to the Spam issue did a huge disservice to anyone whoever dreamt of making an honest living on the Internet in this lifetime...
Spokesman Jon Murchinson said Microsoft has been talking about how to allow open-source and proprietary software to coexist.
When did the DOD cede authority to M$ on what software is "allowed?" Pretty poor choice of terminology from a marketing standpoint.
I think you've finally solved the copy-protection dilemma:
WARNING: This CD Media Contains Audio Recordings of Celine Dion. Use at Your Own Risk!
I know wouldn't rip it....
Oddly enough, I got caught up in tech when MIDI came around and I could do more with my songwriting using it. I've since picked up the guitar, but along the way I got more immersed in tech than music.
About a year ago, I shifted priorities, let the screensaver keep the PC company at 5pm and go pick up the guitar / keys for the rest of the day.
Of course, not everyone plays the guitar; some people don't have any other interests (and, that's not a bad thing). But, be grateful you still know how to break free. Enjoy the walk. Great point!
So, for $120/yr Bell South gets your undivided attention and you get to be $120 poorer but will still be bugged by Bell South. Yup, sounds like a great deal. (BTW, the only TM calls I've received this week are 3 from Qwest.)
Just think if the highway dep't in your state offered you a $120/yr fee for them to prevent adolescent kids from throwing rocks and oranges at your car whilst you drove about town... Of course, if you didn't pay the $120/yr, you wouldn't get the service and your car would have a lot of nicks and dents in it.
I realize the analogy isn't the best, but think about it: $120/yr to not get harrassed, and then only not harrassed by everyone except the people who you pay for the service? Sounds like graft to me....
Most of us bash all OSSes. Red Hat sucks (for now), and Slack is the only thing I'd trust to do any public work
"... best item/app/os for the job
Put something else on the fucking shelf at CompUSA and let's see what the best OS ios for the job!
"... lifespan of your agerage SCSI drive
Any ideas what this lifespan is? What about for (E)IDE drives?
I've got 2 - 3 GB drives still working after 8 yrs full-time use. I've had more IDE drives (IBM, Western Digital) die in the past 2 years that were purchased w/in the last 4 years than I can count.
The drives keep getting bigger, and for those of us who only want 10GB to run a server, it seems like a good idea to steer clear of 250 TB IBM EIDE drives at Fry's, especially when they're not recommended for fulltime use. I'd imagine other people have made this observation.
The term "precise" is strategic in M$' defense. It's been used throughout the trial when M$ (or BG) has been accused of being evasive. Consider the word "innovate" and M$ marketing / anti-AntiTrust campaigning. This is another useful term for them.
Would be even better with a disabled close control on the messagebox.
My last employer put together a contract for a charter school a few years back for 25 workstations and a server (win95 / winnt), 4 printers and cd-server that never worked (but got hacked a few times). Total bid was about $80K ($55K for machines, $3K for our services and the rest for licensing). I remember thinking what a shame that so much was tied up in licensing (25 workstation licenses; plus Office; plus the 50-user NT license.)
If the licensing had been a little more reasonable, the school would have been able to afford more of our services and we probably would have been able to make their network more useful as a result. I ended up spending a couple hundred hours of my own over a couple years to help nurse things along, but I recall thinking that if the school licensing had been given to the school, they could have gotten a lot more value out of it. Also, since most of the 300, or so students were entering the business world in a few years, having them trained in M$ tools would have been great for the software vendor.
It's too bad M$ doesn't take a different approach to licensing for schools. It would be a great tax write-off and would further proliferation of M$-based skillsets to further promote their software in businesses, where these youths would eventually wind up. Not to mention a much better PR message than this article sends. I hope people consider things like this when the Bill and Melissa Gates foundation offers token contributions for their pet projects. A little perspective....
There's more to systems administration than having irritating dialog boxes asking you to authorize inbound port 80 connections. These types of processes are end user activities, for which it sounds you're more inclined. If you don't have the patience to analyze packet data, don't be a network administrator. Be an end user instead and don't complain about how hard it is to be a system administrator.
Of course, I'm assuming this is your lot. If the original poster hadn't struck a nerve, I doubt you'd have replied. No offense, but network administration is hardly child's play. It's difficult for a reason. Some people aren't qualified to do it. M$ is educating PHBs incorrectly, which was the original poster's point and I agree with it....
"Sanders agreed he had not read the states' proposals." (from the follow-up story)
Yes, I believe people are hearing other messages. It seems Sanders hass been swiftly discredited. Not a good sign considering you'd think the defense's first witness would be selected strategically.
Someone mod this up.
The reason it affects me is that there is no version of Cakewalk Pro Audio for Linux/UNIX, which I would gladly pay for. The reason there isn't is because there is no other consumer OS but Windows for which programmers are willing to program.
Windows has a big disadvantage when it comes to competing with every other operating system out there. It has to run on every imaginiable intel platform out there...
How is Windows disadvantaged? Linux runs on all the following:
alpha cris ia64 mips parisc s390 sh sparc64 arm i386 m68k mips64 ppc s390x sparc
WRT voiding of warrantees, keep in mind this is software. If M$ put their software together correctly, it would be secure, stable, and prevent installation of rogue software by the end user correctly, instead of threatening them through the EULA.
Windows is $300 for an upgrade for the FIRST YEAR! That is approaching the cost of the actual PC! I would expect anything I spend $300/yr to be perfect!
But, it isn't. And, if it can't be modularized in a way to keep it manageable to windows developers, at least show me some KDE desktops at Best Buy. Your dad doesn't need to run Linux, but shouldn't he have the right to judge that for himself? Perhaps he could use the extra $250 he'd save for other things. Or, perhaps he could pay a more reasonable fee for windows if other OSes were allowed to be sold at the Gateway store.
"Yahoo! and Hotmail both send your spam to a Junk Mail folder... "
He's not using Yahoo Mail, his sister is. He's probably running access checks on his MTA.
Something like:
yahoo.com REJECT
sister@yahoo.com OK
Do you have a fundamental right to use your computer _with_ _their_ _software_ as you wish?
No, but if there were choices for competing operating systems in the consumer electronics space, I'd make it a point to deal with OS software vendors who didn't saddle my property rights by exerting their own over mine.
You mean forcing the *competitors* to implement the ACPI specification
If XP can run without soldering shut ACPI settings to the end-user but rather by simply shipping the motherboard in the setting M$ wants, that should have no impact on the XP OS running on it if those "buggy" technologies have been disabled. But, now the consumer has a motherboard analagous to a win-modem in that they can't choose another OS before replacing their motherboard. Good for the consumer? Innovative?
Read a couple M$ EULA's. Those licenses exert more than just trivial rights over _my_ property if I accept them. In fact, the intellectual property rights of M$ trump my physical property rights (my computer hardware) under such licenses.
Such a property rights argument is a very shaky one both legally and morally...
Which works perfectly until new DVD's no longer play on your "old fashioned" consumer devices forcing you to upgrade to XBox, anyway.
Any other suggestions for a "real" solution? I can think of one, but you still can't buy it pre-loaded on PCs in stores...
for i in `echo
do
echo $i" REJECT" >>
done
sudo