It's not just the US that spends almost every dime they make... plenty of other Western countries as well... New Zealand, Finland and Australia stand out...
The Great Depression took at least 3 years to get to worst case... we aren't even close to that yet...
Just wait... The worst hasn't even come close to occurring yet... but it will, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it.
'Supply side' economics only works when the people who can buy the goods actually earn more over time, just like the people SUPPLYING the goods (i.e the rich). For the last 8 years, this has been crazily out of balance in the US. The people who BUY the goods have had to do so on credit, because their incomes NEVER GREW. Yes, that's right, 8 years of GOP rule brought us to no wage growth over that whole time.
You can't have the middle class buying the things the rich supply on credit forever. It just doesn't work that way. Sooner or later the bills come due. The financial crooks^H^H^Hwhizzes on Wall Street delayed that as long as they could, but in the end not even they could undo natural laws.
Now the bill has come due. Now our economy is imploding because there is no more money for the middle class to buy the things ON CREDIT that kept our economy running.
And unfortunately we've offshored almost all our manufacturing to other countries, so we are doubly $crewed. A service economy doesn't work when no one has money for services. At least in a manufacturing economy you have a physical THING at the end that you can sell...
Hey, look at the electoral map. This is what the DATA says, not what I say.
The states that are Red are by far the LEAST EDUCATED states by any measure.
Yes there are other demographics in the Democratic party, but the Republicans, with their anti-'elitist' and anti-educated platform have catered to the ignorant and uneducated for quite a while now. It is hardly surprising that people with an education, people who are NOT ignorant, are abandoning the party left and right.
It's not just me making this point. Republican pundits are making it as well. People like David Frum and others are pointing out that just writing off many of the most educated people in the country is insanity.
Yes my 'hicks in the sticks' comment was rather over the top, but it got the point across.
Sadly, given the current make up of our population, all this does is give the Republicans a reasonable chance to win every election because the ignorant 'hicks in the sticks' get more of a vote than the educated 'city slickers'.
I say this as one of the educated 'hicks in the sticks'.
It's no coincidence that the most educated states are the most Blue and the most ignorant are the most Red (approximately). You'd HAVE to be ignorant to vote against your own self interest as often as the Red state populations have.
Sorry, but look at the data...this is merely the economic facts...
Perhaps you should do a little research before resorting to name-calling. You are 100% factually incorrect regarding Palin's stance on sex ed. I already addressed it in another post:
Um... you realize that she said this AFTER her daughter got pregnant and that I have only YOUR hypothesis that she thought "explicit" meant some sort of technique teaching.
Maybe you are right, but you are jumping to your own conclusions here unless you can point me to something that says that this is what she meant.
Even if Palin doesn't believe that idiocy, a LARGE portion of her party's faithful DOES, so I still laugh at her daughter getting knocked up because she failed to take precautions.
Call it schadenfreude if you will, but it is nice to see the absolute STUPIDITY of that stance pointed out for all the world to see. More knowledge is ALWAYS better than less knowledge, and idiots who would keep needed sex education from our kids should be exposed as the dangerously backward nutballs they are.
As I mentioned, I used to be a Republican until GWB came along. His attempt to turn the Presidency into some sort of Emperor cured me of that pretty fast. Now we have Palin and McCain saying they are going to keep doing things the GWB only better... no thanks.
Add to that the data analysis I've done of how Republican administrations ACTUALLY work and I wouldn't touch the GOP with a 10 foot pole.
Fine, but Caribou Barbie's idiotic stance on abstinence only sex ed ought to disqualify her if nothing else does.
Heck, her own child is a poster child for why THAT doesn't work. The irony of it is so hilarious it is hard not to laugh out loud.
But in the end, it all comes down to money. Unless you make $250k/year, you aren't rich enough to be a Republican, because you will be paying for all the tax breaks that the Republicans give the super rich.
That is the "Real" Republican agenda. All their talk about small government is a joke. Look at the data, every single Republican president in the last 40 years has grown government far more than the Democratic presidents have. Every single one has had higher budget deficits. All the things Republicans claim they do better (fiscal conservatism, small government) they actually do WORSE.
Absolutely wrong. So completely wrong it is hard to even laugh loud enough.
Go look up the data. It's not even CLOSE.
Republicans spend like drunken sailors whenever they are in power over the last 40 years.
Here's the link to the Congressional Budget Office historical data. http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.shtml
I've done a lot of analysis of this and the Republicans are anything BUT fiscally conservative, no matter WHAT they say. Unfortunately I can't link to all my analysis, but here is the visualization on Many-Eyes and the data set is there so that you can do your own analysis. It is pretty eye opening, and I say that as a recovering Republican.
I agree with you, but you need to understand that the entire Republican ideology is based on selfishness.
Based on their actions, Republicans believe:
1) Dog eat dog laissez-faire capitalism is the only possible economic philosophy to follow. $crew the weak, only the sharks survive. 2) The government is a giant slush fund they can use to give free money to their business buddies regardless of whether the government is taking in enough money to pay for it 3) Anyone who is poor is alternately: a loser, lazy, socially inferior, and deserves whatever happens to them 4) Paying taxes is only for chumps and the rich shouldn't have to pay for things for the plebian scum that reside below them on the class scale 5) The USA is the only country in the world that matters and everyone else exists or dies at our sole whim. The USA is the sole decent country on the globe by virtue of God (inevitably Judeo-Christian) and the US military 6) Socialism and the government helping others financially are un-Godly, heathen and communistic and to be excoriated at every opportunity. Heaven forbid that they be forced to help others.
There is more, but this covers a lot of it... the entire philosophy is all about selfishness and justifying that selfishness with capitalism.
You HAVE to be kidding me. That is what the Republicans SAY, but you have to look at what they DO. The government has grown more under Republicans in the last 40 years than it has under Democrats. That is a FACT. Reagan, Bush I and Bush 2 all grew the government more than Clinton or Carter. The data is out there and it is CLEAR and INCONTROVERTIBLE.
In addition, although Republicans like to pretend they are the party of fiscal conservatism, they are NOTHING OF THE KIND. Again, the facts, the data bears this out completely. They say one thing and do the EXACT opposite. Again, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 all spent more money than the government took in in taxes than did Carter or Clinton.
Take a look at the historical data from the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) uploaded to Many Eyes. It is very, very clear that Republicans are basically big government lovers who spend and spend and spend more money than they make. http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SkWN8RsOtha6iO0l5WlGR2~
Again, I'm tired of Republicans trying to pretend they are somehow against Big Government when they make more Big Government than anyone else.
I know individual Republicans actually believe this, but as a recovering Republican, I urge you to look at the DATA. It says something COMPLETELY different.
Yeah, but Cheney was the one dumb enough to draw the "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" conclusion from Reagan's actions.
We need engineers in government, not politicians and lawyers. They don't have any respect for what happens when you ignore science and mathematical facts and press on as if they didn't matter.
But wait, the debt has grown insanely under every single Republican president in the last 40 years.
How could that be?
The Republicans aren't fiscally conservative at all. Every single republican president has spent like a drunken sailor and GWB is the worst of the lot.
The only thing more stupid than Tax and Spend is Spend and Spend.
Need more proof? PATRIOT Act, Guantanamo, waterboarding, illegal wiretaps, TSA, Homeland (sound like Fatherland to you too?) Security, etc., etc., etc.
I went to high school in Virginia, and my HS Physics teacher told us that the reason that astronauts on the space shuttle in orbit around the Earth floated and people on airplanes flying around the Earth did not was because of "air pressure" (I kid you not).
So yeah, they need something like this... if the teachers will READ it.
On the plus side, my physics teacher was HOT, hence I forgave her for her idiocy.:)
The government has figured out that as long as we have our "bread and circuses" we mostly can't be bothered to complain about this stuff.
Especially since they've lowered the living wage to the point that all adults pretty much have to work full time. No more free time for Mommy while the kids are in school.
The people in charge of this country didn't get where they are by being dumb, and they won't let a piece of paper stop them from crushing anyone who is against the status quo either.
99% of the people prosecuted through the terror laws since 2001 have been US citizens with no links to any terrorist organization. But of course the government HAD to have these laws to "protect" us. NOT.
Jobs should fire his OS validation team.
It is completely unacceptable not to find this when you control ALL of the hardware.
Pathetic. The mind just boggles.
Apple really screwed the pooch on this one.
Take a look at: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4456/is_2002_Dec/ai_98032790
It's not just the US that spends almost every dime they make... plenty of other Western countries as well... New Zealand, Finland and Australia stand out...
Not this time.
The train is leaving the station and accelerating... too bad the bridge is out...
The Great Depression took at least 3 years to get to worst case... we aren't even close to that yet...
Just wait... The worst hasn't even come close to occurring yet... but it will, and there's nothing that can be done to stop it.
'Supply side' economics only works when the people who can buy the goods actually earn more over time, just like the people SUPPLYING the goods (i.e the rich). For the last 8 years, this has been crazily out of balance in the US. The people who BUY the goods have had to do so on credit, because their incomes NEVER GREW. Yes, that's right, 8 years of GOP rule brought us to no wage growth over that whole time.
You can't have the middle class buying the things the rich supply on credit forever. It just doesn't work that way. Sooner or later the bills come due. The financial crooks^H^H^Hwhizzes on Wall Street delayed that as long as they could, but in the end not even they could undo natural laws.
Now the bill has come due. Now our economy is imploding because there is no more money for the middle class to buy the things ON CREDIT that kept our economy running.
And unfortunately we've offshored almost all our manufacturing to other countries, so we are doubly $crewed. A service economy doesn't work when no one has money for services. At least in a manufacturing economy you have a physical THING at the end that you can sell...
This will be BAD...
Is that Darl will never be another CEO, anywhere, at any time, unless it is CEO of his own house cleaning company.
Also good news that evil ba$tards that try to sue their own customers lose.
In this economy, just be happy if they don't rescind the offer.
In my company we are being told 'forget raises, just be glad you still have a job you worthless sods'
Isn't this "Marxist" type of negative tax one of the basic principles of the state governed by McCain's running mate?
Don't clutter the Republicans' minds with facts! They can't take it! :)
Hey, look at the electoral map. This is what the DATA says, not what I say.
The states that are Red are by far the LEAST EDUCATED states by any measure.
Yes there are other demographics in the Democratic party, but the Republicans, with their anti-'elitist' and anti-educated platform have catered to the ignorant and uneducated for quite a while now. It is hardly surprising that people with an education, people who are NOT ignorant, are abandoning the party left and right.
It's not just me making this point. Republican pundits are making it as well. People like David Frum and others are pointing out that just writing off many of the most educated people in the country is insanity.
Yes my 'hicks in the sticks' comment was rather over the top, but it got the point across.
Sadly, given the current make up of our population, all this does is give the Republicans a reasonable chance to win every election because the ignorant 'hicks in the sticks' get more of a vote than the educated 'city slickers'.
I say this as one of the educated 'hicks in the sticks'.
It's no coincidence that the most educated states are the most Blue and the most ignorant are the most Red (approximately). You'd HAVE to be ignorant to vote against your own self interest as often as the Red state populations have.
Sorry, but look at the data.. .this is merely the economic facts...
At least 4 years... :)
Perhaps you should do a little research before resorting to name-calling. You are 100% factually incorrect regarding Palin's stance on sex ed. I already addressed it in another post:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1016459&cid=25612725
Um... you realize that she said this AFTER her daughter got pregnant and that I have only YOUR hypothesis that she thought "explicit" meant some sort of technique teaching.
Maybe you are right, but you are jumping to your own conclusions here unless you can point me to something that says that this is what she meant.
Even if Palin doesn't believe that idiocy, a LARGE portion of her party's faithful DOES, so I still laugh at her daughter getting knocked up because she failed to take precautions.
Call it schadenfreude if you will, but it is nice to see the absolute STUPIDITY of that stance pointed out for all the world to see. More knowledge is ALWAYS better than less knowledge, and idiots who would keep needed sex education from our kids should be exposed as the dangerously backward nutballs they are.
As I mentioned, I used to be a Republican until GWB came along. His attempt to turn the Presidency into some sort of Emperor cured me of that pretty fast. Now we have Palin and McCain saying they are going to keep doing things the GWB only better... no thanks.
Add to that the data analysis I've done of how Republican administrations ACTUALLY work and I wouldn't touch the GOP with a 10 foot pole.
Fine, but Caribou Barbie's idiotic stance on abstinence only sex ed ought to disqualify her if nothing else does.
Heck, her own child is a poster child for why THAT doesn't work. The irony of it is so hilarious it is hard not to laugh out loud.
But in the end, it all comes down to money.
Unless you make $250k/year, you aren't rich enough to be a Republican, because you will be paying for all the tax breaks that the Republicans give the super rich.
That is the "Real" Republican agenda. All their talk about small government is a joke. Look at the data, every single Republican president in the last 40 years has grown government far more than the Democratic presidents have. Every single one has had higher budget deficits. All the things Republicans claim they do better (fiscal conservatism, small government) they actually do WORSE.
Signed, a Recovering Republican
Absolutely wrong. So completely wrong it is hard to even laugh loud enough.
Go look up the data. It's not even CLOSE.
Republicans spend like drunken sailors whenever they are in power over the last 40 years.
Here's the link to the Congressional Budget Office historical data.
http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.shtml
I've done a lot of analysis of this and the Republicans are anything BUT fiscally conservative, no matter WHAT they say. Unfortunately I can't link to all my analysis, but here is the visualization on Many-Eyes and the data set is there so that you can do your own analysis. It is pretty eye opening, and I say that as a recovering Republican.
http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SkWN8RsOtha6iO0l5WlGR2~
I agree with you, but you need to understand that the entire Republican ideology is based on selfishness.
Based on their actions, Republicans believe:
1) Dog eat dog laissez-faire capitalism is the only possible economic philosophy to follow. $crew the weak, only the sharks survive.
2) The government is a giant slush fund they can use to give free money to their business buddies regardless of whether the government is taking in enough money to pay for it
3) Anyone who is poor is alternately: a loser, lazy, socially inferior, and deserves whatever happens to them
4) Paying taxes is only for chumps and the rich shouldn't have to pay for things for the plebian scum that reside below them on the class scale
5) The USA is the only country in the world that matters and everyone else exists or dies at our sole whim. The USA is the sole decent country on the globe by virtue of God (inevitably Judeo-Christian) and the US military
6) Socialism and the government helping others financially are un-Godly, heathen and communistic and to be excoriated at every opportunity. Heaven forbid that they be forced to help others.
There is more, but this covers a lot of it... the entire philosophy is all about selfishness and justifying that selfishness with capitalism.
You mean like the 700 billion dollar bailout to Wall Street CEOs that pay no taxes?
The only constant is that the middle class gets $crewed.
You HAVE to be kidding me. That is what the Republicans SAY, but you have to look at what they DO. The government has grown more under Republicans in the last 40 years than it has under Democrats. That is a FACT. Reagan, Bush I and Bush 2 all grew the government more than Clinton or Carter. The data is out there and it is CLEAR and INCONTROVERTIBLE.
In addition, although Republicans like to pretend they are the party of fiscal conservatism, they are NOTHING OF THE KIND. Again, the facts, the data bears this out completely. They say one thing and do the EXACT opposite. Again, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 all spent more money than the government took in in taxes than did Carter or Clinton.
Take a look at the historical data from the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) uploaded to Many Eyes. It is very, very clear that Republicans are basically big government lovers who spend and spend and spend more money than they make. http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SkWN8RsOtha6iO0l5WlGR2~
Again, I'm tired of Republicans trying to pretend they are somehow against Big Government when they make more Big Government than anyone else.
I know individual Republicans actually believe this, but as a recovering Republican, I urge you to look at the DATA. It says something COMPLETELY different.
Yes, but notice that he is coming in at the END... not at the beginning.
They call in the engineers and problem solvers when everything is totally $crewed, but ignore us before that.
The only way to fix that is to get more engineers and technical people into government.
Yeah, but Cheney was the one dumb enough to draw the "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" conclusion from Reagan's actions.
We need engineers in government, not politicians and lawyers. They don't have any respect for what happens when you ignore science and mathematical facts and press on as if they didn't matter.
The Logic of Failure....
What "fiscal conservatives"!
But wait, the debt has grown insanely under every single Republican president in the last 40 years.
How could that be?
The Republicans aren't fiscally conservative at all. Every single republican president has spent like a drunken sailor and GWB is the worst of the lot.
The only thing more stupid than Tax and Spend is Spend and Spend.
I can only assume so. This stuff keeps happening over and over again and they don't seem to be bothered enough to keep it from occurring.
There are plenty of ways to stop this sort of thing as other posters have mentioned... but no, the CC industry just can't be bothered.
Of course since most of the banks running them seem to be going out of business, maybe they have more important things on their minds nowadays.
Well, at least GWB and Cheney are.
Need more proof? PATRIOT Act, Guantanamo, waterboarding, illegal wiretaps, TSA, Homeland (sound like Fatherland to you too?) Security, etc., etc., etc.
I used to be a Republican until GWB. Never again.
Did you actually RTA?
From the die image on the foils it is clear there are 6 cores BY DESIGN. There aren't any of them that are defective.
Next time RTA.
I went to high school in Virginia, and my HS Physics teacher told us that the reason that astronauts on the space shuttle in orbit around the Earth floated and people on airplanes flying around the Earth did not was because of "air pressure" (I kid you not).
So yeah, they need something like this... if the teachers will READ it.
On the plus side, my physics teacher was HOT, hence I forgave her for her idiocy. :)
They were evil before Microsoft even existed.
The government has figured out that as long as we have our "bread and circuses" we mostly can't be bothered to complain about this stuff.
Especially since they've lowered the living wage to the point that all adults pretty much have to work full time. No more free time for Mommy while the kids are in school.
The people in charge of this country didn't get where they are by being dumb, and they won't let a piece of paper stop them from crushing anyone who is against the status quo either.
99% of the people prosecuted through the terror laws since 2001 have been US citizens with no links to any terrorist organization. But of course the government HAD to have these laws to "protect" us. NOT.