All that farting around with Finite Capacity Planning, Sales Forecasting and stuff I did for a pie factory around 15 years ago was to be actually invented around now.
We would generate a forecast of sales, fax it to the customer (multiples in the UK) and then manufacture and ship product based on that forecast. Most of the time the forecast would come back with a signature on it (an order).
Pies (Pasties, sausage rolls, pork pies etc etc) have a short life span and have to be generally made before the order to ensure they arrive into depot (ie into the customer's depot) with enough "code" (shelf life) to be saleable. We weren't perfect but it generally worked.
So, I submit that huge swathes of manufacturing have been doing this sort of thing for decades. I used text books that my dad had lying around from his days at University for my forecasting models and details on how logistics works.
Cheers Jon
PS OK, my case is not exactly in 1-1 with the patent but any sufficiently large logistical operation has done this and much more routinely for a very long time but probably used less buzz words.
When you have finished snorting the coffee through the (slightly modified) dildo and smoked the Pony whilst wearing the Ears, please ensure you fill in your reviews. I need to know...
Are you sure? My laptop begs to differ: $uname -a Linux jglaptop 3.12.6-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 28 11:22:53 GMT 2013 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
and spits out things like this:
gerdesj@jglaptop:~$ systemctl status apache2 apache2.service - Apache Web Server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sat 2013-12-28 12:18:03 GMT; 1 day 10h ago
Process: 2719 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/apache2 $APACHE2_OPTS -k start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 2796 (/usr/sbin/apach)
CGroup:/system.slice/apache2.service
2796/usr/sbin/apache2 -D INFO -D MANUAL -D SSL -D SUEXEC -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SECURITY -D PERL -k start
2797/usr/sbin/apache2 -D INFO -D MANUAL -D SSL -D SUEXEC -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D
Are you sure that a judge would not know how the no fly list works and the legislation behind it - given that knowing or at least how to research the law is his job?
You feel happy to espouse views like that openly, using an account rather than AC.
The US really does not resemble either the DDR or USSR in any way. I'm from the UK but recently visited the US (again) for some time. I have also briefly visited the DDR via Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin in the '80s - that was an eye opener, as was the Corridor and the Wall.
There's no reason to dig up history for repression. You might like to note that women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia but some brave souls flout the rules. You may also think about what life in say Syria or large parts of Africa, let alone Afghanistan and other large parts of the world I've missed out, might be like.
Are you sure the world is such a bad place for the likes of you and I?
Yeah right, except quite a few of us post on Slashdot and other tech sites - we are a gated community. Nearly all sysadmins are a piece of piss to find on t'interwebs.
Perhaps those site's web log files might not be as well protected as you might want - I doubt that our host's web masters are the only viewers.
Perhaps you describe some aspect of your home/work/cloudy system, perhaps over many posts over several months/years (your modus operandus) on these tech sites.
Perhaps there is someone who has a system that draws neat graphs linking posts to persons to groups of IT systems and hence to how they are secured.
To make it especially easy to follow, why not sign off your posts in a distinctive way.
Cheers Jon
PS Bugger AC - I've been here years and a few years before I signed up. I've never bothered posting AC - I'm a security consultant.
Here's a snippet from one of the data dumps (telnet is less than 300MB), note the dates. Have a look yourself and you'll get the IP address this belongs to along with many, many others:
(This is a telnet login banner which I've had to clean out somewhat to post here) Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. Without the owner's prior written consent, no decompiling or reverse-engineering shall be allowed.
I was pretty horrified but not too surprised at the contents of just one data dump after a quick look.
Do you actually remember what search engines looked like before Google came on the scene?
They were awful and ad ridden (cf the modern Google - it's rather subtle) and shallow. I moved my home page away from Altavista pretty smartish when I heard of them.
Fault them all you like but G's founders filled a niche nicely with good (enough) maths/algorithms and a canny eye for user requirements and as it turns out by results: good business sense.
They do evil by default nowadays but they are still pretty good at the basic premise - search.
I note that the story above about the NSA inventing a new magnifying glass and can now read text down to 2 point or something has shit loads of comments but this one has very few.
Come on you buggers, comment here where it really counts.
Oh - you can't hear me no matter how hard I tap the keys...... bugger
I seem to recall rather a lot of floppies making up GEOS - yes the "desktop" might have appeared eventually from one but it was a disc swapping frenzie I seem to recall to actually do anything.
As you say though - they weren't as spacious as those fancy new 1.44MB jobbies.
LOAF on the other hand got rather a lot out of a 1.44MB floppy.
Yes. It was called SPX (Sequenced Packet eXchange). You had an IPX address which is basically a MAC address and you preface that with a colon (:) and a six hex char SPX address.
The SPX address is roughly analogous to an IP subnet. The IPX address would be the individual IP host address. Note that the protocol doesn't stop you from repeating the full IPX range on each SPX network, you would have to override the automatic MAC address to IPX address assignment which would be unwieldy.
I suspect that a full modern internet running on IPX/SPX style addressing would look a little different from what we used back in the day. It might look rather more like IPv6 perhaps...
Why on earth would you need that many columns? The only reason I can personally think of for that is for marketing purposes by the writer of the software.
Please enlighten me.
Cheers Jon
PS. I managed to get Excel 5.0 to do a finite capacity plan for a fair sized factory (>300,000 units per day in >200 product lines with >300 ingredients) without running out of columns. If I remember correctly it had around 20 odd sheets and around 1000 odd lines of VBA. My P60 usually took about 10-15 minutes to crank out a good enough solution to work the plant to.
I agree with you on every point. I run quite a large corporate intranet on MediaWiki with all the toys added in and I find it functional in appearance. My end users say it it works nicely and are pretty much against me wasting time trying to make it look somehow more "designed". Information is relatively easy to find and it is seriously fast compared to the old SharePoint based jobbie.
However the lack of a really good editor is a drawback and some of my pages look like line noise, especially the dot graphs and charts. Even with the funky new editor It feels like using WordPerfect 5.x for DOS with the coloured cardboard memory jogging strip over your function keys replaced with some icons.
We resort to people entering their basic content and then flagging the article for marking up by a pool of editors if they are not able to do it themselves.
When someone does eventually make wiki markup editing simple enough for non techies then they will be a hero!
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God God, they've invented JIT.
All that farting around with Finite Capacity Planning, Sales Forecasting and stuff I did for a pie factory around 15 years ago was to be actually invented around now.
We would generate a forecast of sales, fax it to the customer (multiples in the UK) and then manufacture and ship product based on that forecast. Most of the time the forecast would come back with a signature on it (an order).
Pies (Pasties, sausage rolls, pork pies etc etc) have a short life span and have to be generally made before the order to ensure they arrive into depot (ie into the customer's depot) with enough "code" (shelf life) to be saleable. We weren't perfect but it generally worked.
So, I submit that huge swathes of manufacturing have been doing this sort of thing for decades. I used text books that my dad had lying around from his days at University for my forecasting models and details on how logistics works.
Cheers
Jon
PS OK, my case is not exactly in 1-1 with the patent but any sufficiently large logistical operation has done this and much more routinely for a very long time but probably used less buzz words.
When you have finished snorting the coffee through the (slightly modified) dildo and smoked the Pony whilst wearing the Ears, please ensure you fill in your reviews. I need to know ...
Cheers
Jon
-40F == -40C. Clearly a pedant had to bother putting in the name of the scale used.
Now what's that in Kelvin (K)? That's what this pedant uses.
Cheers
Jon
>> Gentoo can not be setup to use systemd too
Are you sure? My laptop begs to differ:
$uname -a
Linux jglaptop 3.12.6-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 28 11:22:53 GMT 2013 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
and spits out things like this:
gerdesj@jglaptop:~$ systemctl status apache2 /system.slice/apache2.service /usr/sbin/apache2 -D INFO -D MANUAL -D SSL -D SUEXEC -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SECURITY -D PERL -k start /usr/sbin/apache2 -D INFO -D MANUAL -D SSL -D SUEXEC -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D
apache2.service - Apache Web Server
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sat 2013-12-28 12:18:03 GMT; 1 day 10h ago
Process: 2719 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/apache2 $APACHE2_OPTS -k start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 2796 (/usr/sbin/apach)
CGroup:
2796
2797
Cheers
Jon
Are you sure that a judge would not know how the no fly list works and the legislation behind it - given that knowing or at least how to research the law is his job?
Cheers
Jon
You feel happy to espouse views like that openly, using an account rather than AC.
The US really does not resemble either the DDR or USSR in any way. I'm from the UK but recently visited the US (again) for some time. I have also briefly visited the DDR via Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin in the '80s - that was an eye opener, as was the Corridor and the Wall.
There's no reason to dig up history for repression. You might like to note that women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia but some brave souls flout the rules. You may also think about what life in say Syria or large parts of Africa, let alone Afghanistan and other large parts of the world I've missed out, might be like.
Are you sure the world is such a bad place for the likes of you and I?
Cheers
Jon
The article only mentions the username going in clear.
It wasn't ceded - the lease expired.
Actually as with most things arranged around here (UKoGB&NI), it's a bit more complicated than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_sovereignty_over_Hong_Kong
Cheers
Jon
Yeah right, except quite a few of us post on Slashdot and other tech sites - we are a gated community. Nearly all sysadmins are a piece of piss to find on t'interwebs.
Perhaps those site's web log files might not be as well protected as you might want - I doubt that our host's web masters are the only viewers.
Perhaps you describe some aspect of your home/work/cloudy system, perhaps over many posts over several months/years (your modus operandus) on these tech sites.
Perhaps there is someone who has a system that draws neat graphs linking posts to persons to groups of IT systems and hence to how they are secured.
To make it especially easy to follow, why not sign off your posts in a distinctive way.
Cheers
Jon
PS Bugger AC - I've been here years and a few years before I signed up. I've never bothered posting AC - I'm a security consultant.
Remind me who sponsored SELinux in the first place please ...
Cheers
Jon
AC up there is almost certainly joking - riffing on hosts file ...
Cheers
Jon
Stale -Ha!
Here's a snippet from one of the data dumps (telnet is less than 300MB), note the dates. Have a look yourself and you'll get the IP address this belongs to along with many, many others:
(This is a telnet login banner which I've had to clean out somewhat to post here)
Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. All rights reserved. Without the owner's prior written consent, no decompiling or reverse-engineering shall be allowed.
I was pretty horrified but not too surprised at the contents of just one data dump after a quick look.
Cheers
Jon
Why?
Do you actually remember what search engines looked like before Google came on the scene?
They were awful and ad ridden (cf the modern Google - it's rather subtle) and shallow. I moved my home page away from Altavista pretty smartish when I heard of them.
Fault them all you like but G's founders filled a niche nicely with good (enough) maths/algorithms and a canny eye for user requirements and as it turns out by results: good business sense.
They do evil by default nowadays but they are still pretty good at the basic premise - search.
AC - I see you as a kid until you uncloak - twat.
Cheers
Jon
... and me with Mod points 'n' all
Kids today.
This is real news for nerds.
I note that the story above about the NSA inventing a new magnifying glass and can now read text down to 2 point or something has shit loads of comments but this one has very few.
Come on you buggers, comment here where it really counts.
Oh - you can't hear me no matter how hard I tap the keys ...... bugger
Cheers
Jon
I seem to recall rather a lot of floppies making up GEOS - yes the "desktop" might have appeared eventually from one but it was a disc swapping frenzie I seem to recall to actually do anything.
As you say though - they weren't as spacious as those fancy new 1.44MB jobbies.
LOAF on the other hand got rather a lot out of a 1.44MB floppy.
Cheers
Jon
Yes. It was called SPX (Sequenced Packet eXchange). You had an IPX address which is basically a MAC address and you preface that with a colon (:) and a six hex char SPX address.
The SPX address is roughly analogous to an IP subnet. The IPX address would be the individual IP host address. Note that the protocol doesn't stop you from repeating the full IPX range on each SPX network, you would have to override the automatic MAC address to IPX address assignment which would be unwieldy.
I suspect that a full modern internet running on IPX/SPX style addressing would look a little different from what we used back in the day. It might look rather more like IPv6 perhaps ...
Cheers
Jon
Why on earth would you need that many columns? The only reason I can personally think of for that is for marketing purposes by the writer of the software.
Please enlighten me.
Cheers
Jon
PS. I managed to get Excel 5.0 to do a finite capacity plan for a fair sized factory (>300,000 units per day in >200 product lines with >300 ingredients) without running out of columns. If I remember correctly it had around 20 odd sheets and around 1000 odd lines of VBA. My P60 usually took about 10-15 minutes to crank out a good enough solution to work the plant to.
What are you on about?
$ file /opt/google/chrome/chrome
/opt/google/chrome/chrome: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, BuildID[sha1]=690874ce18d973267436f04ec75877f26a6af0f1, stripped
Chrome and Firefox have both been 64 bit for years
Cheers
Jon
Yes you'd like to think there would firewalls installed on things like traffic lights. However as the fairly recent SCADA attacks demonstrate ...
I agree with you on every point. I run quite a large corporate intranet on MediaWiki with all the toys added in and I find it functional in appearance. My end users say it it works nicely and are pretty much against me wasting time trying to make it look somehow more "designed". Information is relatively easy to find and it is seriously fast compared to the old SharePoint based jobbie.
However the lack of a really good editor is a drawback and some of my pages look like line noise, especially the dot graphs and charts. Even with the funky new editor It feels like using WordPerfect 5.x for DOS with the coloured cardboard memory jogging strip over your function keys replaced with some icons.
We resort to people entering their basic content and then flagging the article for marking up by a pool of editors if they are not able to do it themselves.
When someone does eventually make wiki markup editing simple enough for non techies then they will be a hero!
Why do you describe Esperanto as the French language? (OK Frankish language)
Note the name of the submitter of the article and then ignore in future. You'll find /. much more fun then.
>Every time I have to go back to using Windows, it's like trying to work with mittens on ...
There, fixed that for you.