The MPAA is like OJ. Even when they win, they will still be a loser. I still don't understand how they could have such a low understanding of technology that they would attack torrent sites anyway.
Besides, there is still the old idea that you can't call downloading "theft" because there really is no proven loser. We should all of us contact a lawyer and have legal documents drawn up, and notorized that say something like "In the event that any digitally copyrighted material is found on this hard drive, let this document serve as a legally binding guarantee that said materials would never have been purchased otherwise and therefore no loss of revenue can possibly be proven solely based on the posession and or existance of these materials."
See, the problem is they have managed to convince too many judges that ALL of the material you or I may have on a hard drive would have absolutely been purchased had we not had the opportunity to download it.
Would people fucking quit trying to install BETA software already just to complain about it? Jesus Christ! Especially a report on MSnbc. Especially a writer who seems barely literate to begin with. Let's fuck with this guy a little.
"which meant wiping out everything on the hard drive and starting from scratch. That took about an hour to complete. It also removed every device driver that I needed to run the laptop."
Funny, last time I formatted my hard drive, all my device drivers were still installed, I don't know how this could have happened.
"I did try installing Vista on two other laptops. One, it turns out, needs a new Real Time Clock battery (a trip to the manufacturer is needed) and another which had a massive hard drive failure at the beginning of the installation process."
During your drive to the manufacturer for a radio shack cmos battery, did you come to the realization that this entire paragraph is irrelevant?
"I did not try to install the Vista Beta on the computer I'm using to write this. I'll bet you can figure out why."
Because Vista doesn't support your Lenovo laptop completely? That's the closest reason I can come up with.
"and a set of high-performance, all-season tires."
A set of what? WHY DO THEY LET FUCKING ILLITERATE PEOPLE WRITE FOR POPULAR NEWS SOURCES!. This is just as bad as the Bose commercial where one of the ways they promote their "audio product" is by telling us what some jerkoff from The Boston Globe thinks about it. Oh, yeah thats right, audiophile magazines would never review that hunk of shit, so we need to get some 90 year old financial expert to review it.
I'm sorry, I'm just a little frustrated with all this negative crap about a beta operating system.
Why does nobody say anything about any betas besides Microsoft ones?
Mod me negative all you want because im defending MS, but just so you know I wrote this from a linux box.
Wasn't trying to be smug, and I'm sorry if it came across that way. What I was trying to illustrate is that you can, in fact have a completely normal computing experience without AV software. Playing games isn't out at all. What I was trying to say is Clicking the blinking link that says TRY out FABULOUS FREE GAMES NOW!!!! and somehow being drawn to the link like a bug to a zapper light is what causes the problems. I was trying to say that a very small amount of user education and self-control can, as it has for me, do as much, if not more good than any AV software.
Anybody who has installed winamp in the last few months knows exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about. So far, I'm the only one who uses my network that has managed to not get a "fabulous free music from e-music" icon on my desktop, because I'm one of the few people I know that read the text in the menus. Clicking "advanced" and making sure that an app isn't sneaking another app in at the same time helps.
So, really, I wasn't saying I was any better than you. All I meant to say is a little literacy and time-taking goes a long way. If anybody took offence to that, there is nothing I can do.
Try using the anti-virus software I use at home. It's a mental document I have that I spew at everybody who uses my network. I call it: "Don't be an idiot."
It contains several points.
Don't click before you read
Don't open e-mail attachments unless it's from sombody you know in real life.
Don't ever run anything in a browser, or click anything that a web site says you should, no matter HOW WONDERFUL it claims to be.
Don't use file sharing or P2P of any kind.
Don't give out your e-mail address to any site that you use for communication. Use a seprate spam e-mail address with a free provider when a website requests an e-mail address.
There are other things, but the general idea is this. Most anti-virus software will slow down your computer. Sometimes, as much so that it behaves as if it's actually infected with a virus. Following general rules you can lead a completely normal life with a computer, sans anti virus software. I have been doing it for over 12 years, and none of my computers have ever been infected with a real virus. Sure, I've had to do MS updates for sasser and the like to prevent other drone computers on the internet from attacking me using a flaw, but that doesn't count as being infected with a virus, and most likely wouldn't have been something an anti-virus program would have stopped to begin with.
Oh, and Linux zealots: Please try to stop yourselves from suggesting that Linux in some form is the "end all, catch all" cure for PC woes and viruses. I would much rather go to my mothers house once a month ro remove a virus than once every 15 minutes to try to explain how to do something simple with her system. Before you fuckers get happy with the moderate menu please understand I'm not bashing Linux, I'm just saying we have to stop making the answer to every question "Install Linux."
Its the same crap, a small electric motor with an offset metal weight. Everything that uses this technology should violate their patent, no? Cel phones? pagers?
Does it make anybody else nervous that there is a market for these products? "off the shelf" products that can scale to this degree?
If enough large companies are purchasing these to the degree that a company manufactures this equipment...exclusively.. doesn't that strike an interesting chord?
Anybody who still uses P2P software at this point deserves to have their upload / download directories cleaned out.
The trojan probably does you a favor by deleting all the rest of the virii that you probably have in those directories as a condition of being dumb and using P2P.
How did I know a story like this would illicit these kinds of comments?
They should know better than to post a story on Slashdot that smells at all like sombody is being negative toward Linux. I think the basic idea everybody seems to forget here is the actual reason most of us "in the know" folks like to be positive about Linux rather than windows. Here are a few reasons:
1.) Open source, community developped vs. Closed, corporate monolith evil empire, Darth Gates.
2.) User-configurable internals vs. Pre-defined locked core system (only illusionary, mind you.)
3.) Free-ness vs. Not-so-free-ness.
I think the general thing alot of people don't discuss out of fear for sounding like they are speaking against their ideals are real world issues. While we like to judge operating environments and software on Slashdot based on the above pointers, this article attempts to shift the focus to some different judging ideas:
Let's talk seriously about Linux useability. It seems like distro's and folks that make UI's for linux focus more on making the basic "this is what you see when you boot" look and feel alot like Windows. The point is, it should be different. Stop trying to make Windows users feel comfortable for the first few minutes of use (the way the shit looks) and focus on putting more usefulness into it. Why the hell is it that when I load windows, 90% of the time I don't have a display driver Windows knows the approximate capabilities of my card and at least gives me a native resolution? Why is it when I install Ubuntu on my laptop with a wifi card, it just takes a fat shit on itself? Why is it if you jump on freenode and hop into the Ubuntu channel, it takes 12 hours of fighting to get a peice of hardware to even initialize (it still won't work) where as when you go into the Windows channel you are treated to hours of silence, and when the silence is finally broken it's "does anybody know why I can't un-set read only on an NTFS volume?". I think you can prove this point by simply examining the way people doll out help. I know this issue has been brought up before, Linux users don't like to help alot of the time because it's a god-damn loosing battle. They get snippy with me, or anybody else who asks for help setting up a wifi card simply because even after a few hours they know in their heart of hearts it's probably still not going to work.
Ok, so you are probably thinking "Wahh, it's because hardware manufacturers blah blah blah..". You know what? You are absolutely right. Let's take a sound card manufacturer for example. These people set up a callcenter that they pay per call, or based on volume/staffing. If the same rules apply to tech support for online help (IRC, Forums) then it would apply to users calling tech on the phone right? What company do you know of wants to staff an ENTIRE secondary callcenter with techs, have all of them with call handle times measured in HOURS, only to discover "well, it's a kernel limitation" or "I think the issue is with your DM." It's not that hardware manufacturers don't care enough about Linux to write a driver, IMHO I think it's because they dont want to open another can of worms.
So, you want to talk about usability and differences, thats great. The only way Linux is going to be competitive in this world, IMHO is if all the people who are in the upper eschelon of coding rent / buy a huge amount of land somewhere, build a 10 million SQ-FT building, take up offices, and COLLABORATE.
Being able to charge for your operating system guarantees a certain amount of quality, through accountability. Linux dev's will always have the ability to abandon the end user simply because the dev's don't owe them jack shit.
Last point, I wonder what would happen if Bill Gates found a way to fi
They are this dumb. In fact, dumber. The government is actually, for the most part, quite stupid. I beleive my mother said it best the other day when she said:
Will sombody please give President Bush a blowjob so we can impeach him already?
We could incorporate that solution to encompass everybody on capitol hill and solve many a problem.
So, basically, they put a menu in that allows you to scroll through some text, which takes the shape of some old games?
Maybe when it comes out, it might work, but for now according to whats being said here, it's just a menu.
"None of the prominent desktop applications that can create and save documents in OpenDocument currently work well with screen readers."
Um, owned?
Sounds to me like sombody needs to start dictating a little C++ into their little speech recognition program. Sorry for being insensitive, but come on, how fucking nit witted do you have to be, they outright SAY "lack of programs supporting ODF."
I'm starting to have the opinion that ISP's in general are loosing money on subscribers, especially since now people arent just checking their e-mail and browsing the web. We have, in the last couple of years seen an exponential increase in:
1.) People that stay connected continually.
2.) People sharing files (big ones)
3.) People downloading bigger and bigger files, since hard drive space is el-cheapo.
4.) Myriads of video sites popping up everywhere.
So, rather than your little ISP eat it's own shit over your extravegant downloading habits, or jacking up your bill, they are trying to shunt this bandwidth hurt over to the major players who supply it. I know, it's bullshit. But, the only alternative I see, scary thought, ISP's being forced to go back to some sort of "pay for what you use" service, which works for major ISP's and backbones, but joe consumer whore won't swallow it because he would find out that his $40/month cable service really costs the cable company $80/month once you figure in his 30 gig/month porn downloading habit. I know a guy that works for a major cable internet provider, and I've got it on good authority that their CMTS is over subscribed, and their connection to the world in the are we live in is VERY overburdened, but they just can't seem to afford an upgrade.
The sad truth is the article doesn't say "Should they introduce a new standard" it's "They are introducing a new standard.
As I see it, everybody will eventually have to start using it, everything else will, someday, become obsolete into oblivion.
The sad part is the whole DRM and TPM and everything else that goes along with it. Sooner or later, I hope these fuckwits big-brother themselves out of a job, and Microsoft big-brothers itself out of business.
Why don't they name the chips what they really are rather than rely on names that are buttered for easy sliding down the throat of joe-bob gamer-consumer-whore?
Assholes, just name the thing "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
That always pissed me off about AMD too. processors with the same clock speed but varying amounts of cache warranted a different "fake speed name". Fuck that, I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
I would like to see a kernel that is completely compartmentalized, maybe even with some "at install time" configuration options. Break it down into a tree that you can pick and choose parts from. Maybe this is a bit off topic, but it would be nice to not have to install, then get kernel sources, strip, reconfigure, recompile, install, hope it works...
Doesn't this compartment thing mean some sort of "plugin" style?
Agreed. Plays right into my master plan about forcing people to get a licence before attempting to do anything with / about a computer. Maybe then defense lawyers could use that to get these suits thrown out
"Your honor, we would like to introduce into evidence that the plaintiff does not in fact have a computer licence, and therefore can not qualify a law suit based on a theory about computers. Move to dismiss."
While everybody is so enthralled with suing google over being able to access stuff, why don't they start suing domain registrars for allowing websites with questionable content to register domains.
While they are at it, let's sue the ISP on the other end of the server the content sits on for allowing the data to pass through it.
Let's also sue the company(ies) that made the routers too, they don't filter child porn.
Let's just make a list of all the companies that participated in the delivery of the content, from the companies that developped the components inside the servers the people that supplied the silicon, the companies that developped the teflon insulation in the cabling, the copper miners for making cable that could be used to transmit child porn...the list goes on and on for people that, by this same ruleset could be held accountable.
Fucktards, suing google is assinine. All they do is provide a service for people to search what is on the internet. They profit from EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET. You can't sue them because of what the internet contains. Send the people who create child porn to jail.
This whole issue is simply passing the buck. They realise it's hard to keep porn producers in check, so they sue sue sue big dollar Google to try and win a company that will help them fight their battle? It's very plain to me that most people that hold a political office of some kind have no fucking idea how the internet or computers really work, and insist on sensationalizing things like this that make grandma and grampa think they give a fuck, but the people who actually use the internet always see right the hell through it.
Can you blame MS for wanting to make it not un-familliar? Even the most ignorant of computer duphises can be trained to click a dialog or supply a password here and there.
Windows experts explain how to disable security features, how quaint. Honestly, the whole time i was using Vista it never occured to me to turn this "feature" off.
Anybody who needs instructions on how to disable something using gpedit has no business running a beta operating system that was intended for a serious testing audience.
Come to think of it, having a meaningful conversation about an un-finished product is also quite silly. Ok, so in the light of this, I offer this comparison / excersize.
Test 1.) In Windows Vista, make a shortcut to a program you know needs admin to run. Time this part Click the icon, then click the resulting dialog as quickly as you normally would to grant it permission.
Test 2.) In Linux (for argument, lets say Ubuntu) pop open a term. Think in your head the name of an app or process / shell script that needs root or super user to run. Time this part type sudo then the name of the program or command.
Did clicking the box take longer than typing SUDO? meh. what a shame were wasting so much of slashdot's disk space on a coversation over a few milliseconds.
But, if you disable the run elevated functions, wont the popup be replaced with a dialog that says "This program needs administrator priveleges to run. Unfortunatly, you disallowed elevating you, dumbass. please log on using an account capable of running this."
Heres just another example of everybody up in arms over some crap microsoft is doing. I swear, if the zealots stepped back for 2 seconds and looked at the bigger picture objectively, they might find out that none of these types of discussions are worth the bandwidth charges they cause from people reading them.
Get over it people. Go ahead and mod me crappy, I've said something that could be misconstrewed as pro-Microsoft.
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What now?
Besides, there is still the old idea that you can't call downloading "theft" because there really is no proven loser. We should all of us contact a lawyer and have legal documents drawn up, and notorized that say something like "In the event that any digitally copyrighted material is found on this hard drive, let this document serve as a legally binding guarantee that said materials would never have been purchased otherwise and therefore no loss of revenue can possibly be proven solely based on the posession and or existance of these materials."
See, the problem is they have managed to convince too many judges that ALL of the material you or I may have on a hard drive would have absolutely been purchased had we not had the opportunity to download it.
I call bullshit. Who's with me?
"which meant wiping out everything on the hard drive and starting from scratch. That took about an hour to complete. It also removed every device driver that I needed to run the laptop."
Funny, last time I formatted my hard drive, all my device drivers were still installed, I don't know how this could have happened.
"I did try installing Vista on two other laptops. One, it turns out, needs a new Real Time Clock battery (a trip to the manufacturer is needed) and another which had a massive hard drive failure at the beginning of the installation process."
During your drive to the manufacturer for a radio shack cmos battery, did you come to the realization that this entire paragraph is irrelevant?
"I did not try to install the Vista Beta on the computer I'm using to write this. I'll bet you can figure out why."
Because Vista doesn't support your Lenovo laptop completely? That's the closest reason I can come up with.
"and a set of high-performance, all-season tires."
A set of what? WHY DO THEY LET FUCKING ILLITERATE PEOPLE WRITE FOR POPULAR NEWS SOURCES!. This is just as bad as the Bose commercial where one of the ways they promote their "audio product" is by telling us what some jerkoff from The Boston Globe thinks about it. Oh, yeah thats right, audiophile magazines would never review that hunk of shit, so we need to get some 90 year old financial expert to review it.
I'm sorry, I'm just a little frustrated with all this negative crap about a beta operating system.
Why does nobody say anything about any betas besides Microsoft ones?
Mod me negative all you want because im defending MS, but just so you know I wrote this from a linux box.
Anybody who has installed winamp in the last few months knows exactly the kind of crap I'm talking about. So far, I'm the only one who uses my network that has managed to not get a "fabulous free music from e-music" icon on my desktop, because I'm one of the few people I know that read the text in the menus. Clicking "advanced" and making sure that an app isn't sneaking another app in at the same time helps.
So, really, I wasn't saying I was any better than you. All I meant to say is a little literacy and time-taking goes a long way. If anybody took offence to that, there is nothing I can do.
It contains several points.
There are other things, but the general idea is this. Most anti-virus software will slow down your computer. Sometimes, as much so that it behaves as if it's actually infected with a virus. Following general rules you can lead a completely normal life with a computer, sans anti virus software. I have been doing it for over 12 years, and none of my computers have ever been infected with a real virus. Sure, I've had to do MS updates for sasser and the like to prevent other drone computers on the internet from attacking me using a flaw, but that doesn't count as being infected with a virus, and most likely wouldn't have been something an anti-virus program would have stopped to begin with.
Oh, and Linux zealots: Please try to stop yourselves from suggesting that Linux in some form is the "end all, catch all" cure for PC woes and viruses. I would much rather go to my mothers house once a month ro remove a virus than once every 15 minutes to try to explain how to do something simple with her system. Before you fuckers get happy with the moderate menu please understand I'm not bashing Linux, I'm just saying we have to stop making the answer to every question "Install Linux."
Its the same crap, a small electric motor with an offset metal weight. Everything that uses this technology should violate their patent, no? Cel phones? pagers?
Uh, what network security test do you perform that includes the step "record all IP traffic for all users, 24/7, for a couple of years" ?
If enough large companies are purchasing these to the degree that a company manufactures this equipment...exclusively.. doesn't that strike an interesting chord?
The trojan probably does you a favor by deleting all the rest of the virii that you probably have in those directories as a condition of being dumb and using P2P.
Long live the usenet!
They should know better than to post a story on Slashdot that smells at all like sombody is being negative toward Linux. I think the basic idea everybody seems to forget here is the actual reason most of us "in the know" folks like to be positive about Linux rather than windows. Here are a few reasons:
1.) Open source, community developped vs. Closed, corporate monolith evil empire, Darth Gates.
2.) User-configurable internals vs. Pre-defined locked core system (only illusionary, mind you.)
3.) Free-ness vs. Not-so-free-ness.
I think the general thing alot of people don't discuss out of fear for sounding like they are speaking against their ideals are real world issues. While we like to judge operating environments and software on Slashdot based on the above pointers, this article attempts to shift the focus to some different judging ideas:
1.) Useability / Difficulty.
2.) Interoperability / Being the odd man.
3.) Capability / Shortcomings.
4.) Grandmother factor.
5.) Hardware support.
Let's talk seriously about Linux useability. It seems like distro's and folks that make UI's for linux focus more on making the basic "this is what you see when you boot" look and feel alot like Windows. The point is, it should be different. Stop trying to make Windows users feel comfortable for the first few minutes of use (the way the shit looks) and focus on putting more usefulness into it. Why the hell is it that when I load windows, 90% of the time I don't have a display driver Windows knows the approximate capabilities of my card and at least gives me a native resolution? Why is it when I install Ubuntu on my laptop with a wifi card, it just takes a fat shit on itself? Why is it if you jump on freenode and hop into the Ubuntu channel, it takes 12 hours of fighting to get a peice of hardware to even initialize (it still won't work) where as when you go into the Windows channel you are treated to hours of silence, and when the silence is finally broken it's "does anybody know why I can't un-set read only on an NTFS volume?". I think you can prove this point by simply examining the way people doll out help. I know this issue has been brought up before, Linux users don't like to help alot of the time because it's a god-damn loosing battle. They get snippy with me, or anybody else who asks for help setting up a wifi card simply because even after a few hours they know in their heart of hearts it's probably still not going to work.
Ok, so you are probably thinking "Wahh, it's because hardware manufacturers blah blah blah..". You know what? You are absolutely right. Let's take a sound card manufacturer for example. These people set up a callcenter that they pay per call, or based on volume/staffing. If the same rules apply to tech support for online help (IRC, Forums) then it would apply to users calling tech on the phone right? What company do you know of wants to staff an ENTIRE secondary callcenter with techs, have all of them with call handle times measured in HOURS, only to discover "well, it's a kernel limitation" or "I think the issue is with your DM." It's not that hardware manufacturers don't care enough about Linux to write a driver, IMHO I think it's because they dont want to open another can of worms.
So, you want to talk about usability and differences, thats great. The only way Linux is going to be competitive in this world, IMHO is if all the people who are in the upper eschelon of coding rent / buy a huge amount of land somewhere, build a 10 million SQ-FT building, take up offices, and COLLABORATE.
Being able to charge for your operating system guarantees a certain amount of quality, through accountability. Linux dev's will always have the ability to abandon the end user simply because the dev's don't owe them jack shit.
Last point, I wonder what would happen if Bill Gates found a way to fi
Will sombody please give President Bush a blowjob so we can impeach him already?
We could incorporate that solution to encompass everybody on capitol hill and solve many a problem.
Super Mario Brothers
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Sonic The Hedgehog
Bonk's Adventure
Look I can do it too.
Um, owned?
Sounds to me like sombody needs to start dictating a little C++ into their little speech recognition program. Sorry for being insensitive, but come on, how fucking nit witted do you have to be, they outright SAY "lack of programs supporting ODF."
Wait, does this mean Google will have to pay triple for my browsing habits?
1.) People that stay connected continually.
2.) People sharing files (big ones)
3.) People downloading bigger and bigger files, since hard drive space is el-cheapo.
4.) Myriads of video sites popping up everywhere.
So, rather than your little ISP eat it's own shit over your extravegant downloading habits, or jacking up your bill, they are trying to shunt this bandwidth hurt over to the major players who supply it. I know, it's bullshit. But, the only alternative I see, scary thought, ISP's being forced to go back to some sort of "pay for what you use" service, which works for major ISP's and backbones, but joe consumer whore won't swallow it because he would find out that his $40/month cable service really costs the cable company $80/month once you figure in his 30 gig/month porn downloading habit. I know a guy that works for a major cable internet provider, and I've got it on good authority that their CMTS is over subscribed, and their connection to the world in the are we live in is VERY overburdened, but they just can't seem to afford an upgrade.
Dunno, just my 2 cents.
As I see it, everybody will eventually have to start using it, everything else will, someday, become obsolete into oblivion.
The sad part is the whole DRM and TPM and everything else that goes along with it. Sooner or later, I hope these fuckwits big-brother themselves out of a job, and Microsoft big-brothers itself out of business.
Assholes, just name the thing "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
That always pissed me off about AMD too. processors with the same clock speed but varying amounts of cache warranted a different "fake speed name". Fuck that, I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
Doesn't this compartment thing mean some sort of "plugin" style?
"Your honor, we would like to introduce into evidence that the plaintiff does not in fact have a computer licence, and therefore can not qualify a law suit based on a theory about computers. Move to dismiss."
While they are at it, let's sue the ISP on the other end of the server the content sits on for allowing the data to pass through it.
Let's also sue the company(ies) that made the routers too, they don't filter child porn.
Let's just make a list of all the companies that participated in the delivery of the content, from the companies that developped the components inside the servers the people that supplied the silicon, the companies that developped the teflon insulation in the cabling, the copper miners for making cable that could be used to transmit child porn...the list goes on and on for people that, by this same ruleset could be held accountable.
Fucktards, suing google is assinine. All they do is provide a service for people to search what is on the internet. They profit from EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET. You can't sue them because of what the internet contains. Send the people who create child porn to jail.
This whole issue is simply passing the buck. They realise it's hard to keep porn producers in check, so they sue sue sue big dollar Google to try and win a company that will help them fight their battle? It's very plain to me that most people that hold a political office of some kind have no fucking idea how the internet or computers really work, and insist on sensationalizing things like this that make grandma and grampa think they give a fuck, but the people who actually use the internet always see right the hell through it.
Can you blame MS for wanting to make it not un-familliar? Even the most ignorant of computer duphises can be trained to click a dialog or supply a password here and there.
Anybody who needs instructions on how to disable something using gpedit has no business running a beta operating system that was intended for a serious testing audience.
Come to think of it, having a meaningful conversation about an un-finished product is also quite silly. Ok, so in the light of this, I offer this comparison / excersize.
Test 1.) In Windows Vista, make a shortcut to a program you know needs admin to run. Time this part Click the icon, then click the resulting dialog as quickly as you normally would to grant it permission.
Test 2.) In Linux (for argument, lets say Ubuntu) pop open a term. Think in your head the name of an app or process / shell script that needs root or super user to run. Time this part type sudo then the name of the program or command.
Did clicking the box take longer than typing SUDO? meh. what a shame were wasting so much of slashdot's disk space on a coversation over a few milliseconds.
But, if you disable the run elevated functions, wont the popup be replaced with a dialog that says "This program needs administrator priveleges to run. Unfortunatly, you disallowed elevating you, dumbass. please log on using an account capable of running this."
Every time that box pops up, just think to yourself:
"Good thing spyware can't click this button."
Get over it people. Go ahead and mod me crappy, I've said something that could be misconstrewed as pro-Microsoft.