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Intel Names Upcoming Chips
Phooey42 writes "USA Today is reporting that Intel has finally announced names for their new set of desktop and notebook processor lines, previously dubbed Conroe and Merom. The new chips for both the desktop and laptop lines will be dubbed "Core 2 Duo", whereas their new "premium processor" for high end desktop users will be called the "Core 2 Extreme". Knowing Intel, who would have ever thought that the successor to the Core Duo would be the Core 2 Duo!?"
I am very happy to see Intel stepping it up in the Processor market again. Hopefully it will provide a nice environment for more competition between AMD and Intel again so another leap forward can be made in the computing world. Also, I hope they come up with a new jingle for this processor... I hate hte Pentium one. Hehe. Evil inside.
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Intel has recently come up with a series of totally unoriginal and ultimately confusing names for their CPUs.
For example, the "Core Duo" is a pretty unoriginal name for a dual core processor, and I've seen a lot of people start referring to dual core CPUs as "DuoCore" or other such nonsense.
Core 2 Duo? Talk about redundant and confusing naming...
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Let's extrapolate: How long until we get the Core 2 Duo Duplex Beta II?
Argh.
A name is the most important part of any product... If you're the producer.
Glad to see Intel have got their names all worked out, now about the other issues?
I'm holding out for the Deuling Core 2 Dual Duo!
With dual SLI, of course!
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Clearly a better sequel to Core Duo would have been The Two Coreys.
against anything with the word "extreem" in it. This includes dictionaries that still contain this "word".
Quote: With its own unique brand name, the Intel® Core(TM)2 Extreme processor, also to be launched later this year, will be the world's fastest processor and the new first choice of gamers and multimedia professionals worldwide. Core2 Yet it will also be the world's premiere choice for ripping off your wallet.
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They could've called it the "CoreBook Pro."
model when the Extreme version is out.
You may risk getting insulted at Best Buy: "Look at that loser buying the regular core duo, guess he cant handle the extreme."
Oh you got served sucker.
The phrase "more better" is acceptable English. suck it grammar Nazis
The successor to the "Core 2 Duo" will be the "Core 2 Duo: Championship Edition." Alas, folks will illegally mod the chip to the point that Intel releases its own "Core 2 Duo Turbo Hyper Fighting" modified chip to combat such modifications. Then they'll release "Super Core 2 Duo" but it'll bomb for the most part and it's home version will nearly bankrupt the company.
I know there has got to be a number of ways to make fun of these name choices. My problem is everything I come up with is obvious and pedantic
I am guessing Intel had the same problem.
I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
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core 2 duo core 2 2
stupid
I suggest Zanziblurr Duality Turbo Plus.
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At least try to come up with a clever name... something that's exciting. I don't really care if it has "duo" or "du" or "two" in it...
How about Durex?
Duodenum?
Dewey?
Okay, I'll stop now...
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If you're completely soaked in the month-by-month history of a company's products, then something like "Intel Core Duo" means something to you, and "Intel Core 2 Duo" is a delta off of something you already know.
To Mr. and Mrs. America, standing in front of two computers at Best Buy and trying to figure out whether it's worth paying extra money for an Intel Core 2 Duo instead of an Intel Core Duo... heck, they aren't even going to be sure it's not just a misprint on the label.
Will there be an Intel Core 2 Solo?
(If they think "Intel Core" sounds like a good name for a product line, how about "Intel Drum" and "Intel Delay Line?")
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Looks like a collision between "Monroe" (not this one) and "Cerom"...
It would be so great if the core 2 duo was just a regular single cpu, single thread chip, and the extreme was the only real dual-processing one. Intel would be my hero! "Our new chip can do 2 threads! (just not both at the same time)."
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I read in a science magazine that these names are 50% unoriginal and 50% lame.
"The project has been using the code-name 'Death Star', but we felt that 'Laser 2 Station' would better strike fear into the Rebellion."
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The one you've got there is over 5 months old. Try this one.
Many companies are doing similar -- the goal is to emphasize the company brand name over the individual product names.
For example, Cadillac replaced the Seville and Deville with anonymous letters like STS and DTS. This puts more brand id on "Cadillac" part. And Apple is moving to a generic Mac* naming scheme to emphisize the "Apple" and "Mac" parts over the individual model names.
Intel had the problem that "Pentium" had such high brand recognition that it was difficult to move away from it, and after a while having products like "Pentium D" got very silly & confusing. They could create a new product brand like "Stupendium", but then they're starting at zero and they would just create the same problem again in the future. Instead they put that money behind "Intel" by picking a rather generic product names.
Business. Numbers. Money. People. Computer World.
Assholes, just name the thing "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
That always pissed me off about AMD too. processors with the same clock speed but varying amounts of cache warranted a different "fake speed name". Fuck that, I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
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I can't wait for the new Macs that have these things.
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Has anyone got a nice modern processor anti-confusion chart? Something listing marketing name, code name, speed range, cache size, # of cores, and socket type? Covering AMD & Intel?
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Intel has been dropping the ball lately on performance... it seems like the inmates in Marketing have been running this asylum for some time now. They need to hand it back over to Engineering if they are to stop their decline.
Especially now that even Marketing is running out of ideas, evidenced by stupid product names and logos. (VIIV? 64? 75? Core 2 Duo... Extreme? Wha...?!)
Make the product perform better than the competition. Make "Intel Inside" *mean something*.
Do that, and I'd be willing to bet that everything else (including bad marketing) will take care of itself.
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You seem to have stopped when you mentioned dewey. You can stop wanking now....
This is just brilliant marketing for Intel - instead of using logically progressive numbers (286, 386, 486) they are activly confusing the consumer base (Core Solo -> Core Duo -> Core 2 Duo -> Core 2 Extreme) with subjective an illogical naming conventions.
This means that consumers will have to rely more heavily on Best Buy and Dell to "guide" them right where Intel wants them - buying a computer with too much horsepower for what they want to do - send email and surf the web - but just enough so that when Vista arrives, it is "too slow" and an upgrade will be in order in a few years.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
They are waiting for the Core Trio to use the
"Moe, Larry and Curly"
"Moe, Larry and Shemp"
"Moe, Larry and Curly-Joe"
names.
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The new name obviously came from the "Department of Repetitive Redundancy Department"
Sure would be nice to just have a name that gives a chip's relative performance in terms of a single number, which could then be compared to other chips when making buying decisions.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
The two spokesmen for Core 2 Duo: Ace and Gary
What about 'Batman and Robin' ... the Dynamic Duo(tm)
A bit confusing but could be worse. I'm shocked they didn't try to play the number game again, what is this 8th generation for them? Octanium, Octane, Octeron :P, OctaOMFGItsTehPwnage.
Or perhaps their new relationship with Apple is inspring their names now, Core, Seed, Stem
I think in the spirit of 8th generation, they should name one after Chuck Norris (who starred in "The Ocatagon"). I mean who wouldn't buy an Intel Ninjah-jah-jah 2 Roundhouse Edition chip?
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So if I have a server with two of these, it's a dual Core 2 Duo? -j00bar
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Yep you can always count on slashdot to find out what is most important in today's world:
CPU names.
Un-be-f*cking-lievable.
Core Duo TO THE EXTREME!
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Rejected Core 2 Duo Names:
1) CORE 2: The Meltdown
2) Dual HardCore Extreme2
3) Penetrino II
4) C.H.I.P.S. - Core Hardware Intel Pentium Substitute
5) The Dual Core Acute Consummate Maximal Intense Ultimate Severe Processor
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
They could have named them Duo Core Venti and Duo Core Grande.
Great to see Hollywood legend Carolyn Conroe finally honored this way!
I suppose Intel waited until they had a processor that could produce as much heat as she used to do.
When CPU's were first developed they had numbers like most TTL chips back in the day. We had things like 8080, Z80, 68000, 6502, 6510, 8088, 8086 etcetera. No mention of clock speed or name anywhere. We also had 555 and 556 timers. Some were parts referred to as "Zener diodes" and "Darlington transistors" after their inventors but they were still ordered by manufacturing numbers.
And then the marketing department started taking over the naming from the engineering department. That is when things went into the shitter...
I for one am hoping for Intel Core Quadra so we can return to the days of the Quadra Mac!
They can't trademark "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
This is not my sig.
my dictionary doesn't contain this word by default...
They could have named them "Justin", "Britney" and "Christina". :) Oh yeah, that's right I forgot you're not supposed to have a sense of humor on Slashdot. Sorry folks.
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..I'd love to understand what Intel is doing to one-up the hypertransport that AMD has been so wildly successful with.
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I look forward to Apple and Intel releasing the "Apple Core" chip.
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...will be whatever AMD comes up with as it tries to imitate Intel's names...
Massive caches and using ear plugs while the tech fans roar about it. In addition, things like more flexible load reordering and the general wideness of the architecture might alleviate the latency problem. (And, of course, this time the Intel cores won't synchronize over the FSB, but rather share the complete L2.)
I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
... I bought a Honda Minivan, 7 passenger, power sliding doors, V6, AM/FM/CD, power seats, hideaway rear seat, AC, automatic, TCS, ABS, side airbags, ....
So by your logic I didn't buy a Honda Odyssey
Yeah, that'll work.
CPUs are way too complicated to ever fully identify them with their name. Get use to reading the specs, it's only going to get worse.
I for one actually really like the AMD approach. I periodically check the benchmarks to verify that their numbers correlate at least somewhat with real application-level performance. This allows me to fairly easily price-compare different CPUs, knowing "roughly" the relative performance difference between them. For example, an Athlon 64 X2 3800+ will be *about* 10% slower (your mileage may vary) than an Athlon 64 X2 4200+. This is extremely helpful to me, and tells me alot more than comparing the specs and noticing one has 512KB L2 cache while the other has 256KB.
I would love for there to be a standard benchmark suite, and have the weighted average of the benchmark scores go right into the product names. that way I could compare across product architectures rather than only within a specific architecture. Unfortunately that will never happen because one or the other vendor (intel, AMD) will be far enough behind that they will have to come up with their own naming convention to obfuscate the truth.
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Apple introducing desktop Macintoshes with these chips.
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Let's trying to name our products as confusingly as possible:
Memory Stick (with MagicGate)
Memory Stick Pro
Memory Stick Duo
Memory Stick Pro Duo
Darned if I know which one will or will not work in my camera. Looks like they want to do the same thing for motherboards.
Core 2 Duo - Revenge of the Chip
Core Duo! Part Deux
Double Double (In talks with In-N-Out over naming rights)
The team of presenters and booth babes who will go on tour to events to promote the chips will be known as the EXTREME CORE 2 LIVE CREW.
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Maybe they got tired of paying people to research names like Pentium, Itanium, etc. Thus the new generic naming scheme.
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It's not -1 Flamebait! It's +5 Funny. You just didn't get the joke...
I had my money on Core Duo 2.
I wonder what the new socket type will be called?
Where's the 0xBEEF
At least they didn't call it "Wii"
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At this point, the Core series are untouched in the laptop market when it comes to performance/power. They are extremely fast, up there with many desktop chips, yet very low power. That was one of the driving factors of Apple going Intel, the Core chips are impossible to beat at this point for efficient laptops.
) and, more importantly, is much more power efficient.
Looks like it's going to swing back around on the desktop too. The Conroe, Intel's next gen desktop chip looks like it's a powerhouse. It's apparantly faster than what's out currently (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1
To me, looks like Intel is doing just fine. I know it's popular to hate on Intel, but really, their products are not bad. AMD does not have some amazing, crushing superority. Their products are a little faster right now. Ok, great, looks liek Intel's products will be a little faster here soon, and I expect AMD to hit back with something not long after that.
Well I suppose if they had stuck to that scheme it would have had to come to an end anyway, or gain digits. Or it could have hex digits. :-)
586 (Pentium)
686 (PPro & PII)
786 (PIII)
886 (P4)
986 (Core)
A86 (Core 2)
What will they call it upon retail? Core Quado? Core Duo-Duo?
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I don't think it will be clear to average (ignorant) consumers that the Core 2 Duo is the successor to the Core Duo. How many other products put the version number in the middle of the name? Internet 8 Explorer? Play 3 Station?
Of course, it depends on the kind of work you're doing. Much of my work involves multiple threads dealing with the same data objects, so suppose a shared L2 cache would have a big impact. I'm not sure its going to help the game players as much. Specialty chips for physics and calc combined with ever faster video processing is their goal I guess. At some point, graphics processors will need to manage whole objects in virtual physics environments entirely outside the scope of the processor without ever even using the fsb.
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Well, they've answered the age-old question of what would follow Pentium 4. It's not the Pentium Pentium. Instead they've gone to "Core." But is it just me, or does "Core Extreme" sound silly? Shouldn't they just have "Core" and "Hardcore"? Or is that a little too wannabe punk?
Personally I think they're crazy for using such a generic term for their CPU cores. In the embedded SoC world, we've been using the word "core" to refer to CPUs for quite awhile. What makes Intel think it can establish a trademark and brand for something so generic? And after the Apple-Intel switch, I can just imagine all the Apple/Core jokes... (as in "rotten to the...").
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Apologies for not making a joke on the name, like every other post so far...
I'm confused about these new CPUs. I know the Core is based off the Pentium M, and the Core 2 uses a new micro-architecture, also based primarily off the Pentium M, as well as the Pentium III. My question is -- is the Core 2 a direct-line descendent from the Core? Or is the Core 2 the first to use the new micro-architecture, with the Core the last direct-line descendent of the Pentium M?
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Couldn't they just leave it alone? Conroe has started to get a name for itself as a great technology. Why nip that in the butt?
I hate when they decide to name something like: "Stupid Name" "2" "Duo" (processor version). It should just be: "Name" (processor version)
AMD is not much better with the "X2". There should only be one number in the name and that should define the specific processor within a certain chip style (Pentium 133, Opteron 850). Though i'm not attracted to a name that I have to lookup how to spell it (Opteron?? Xeon? Duron? Athlon? Sempron? Turion? Sounds like some transformer or a weird elements on the periodic table). I think I'm going to hold out for the "Megatron X2 Duo 2 D 64 5000 Extreme" processor. It's supposedly the best!
Come up with unique names and naming system that are easy for the general public. It's not that hard, really.
D.CPU or DCPU
quadro .....
pentio
sexio
You work in marketing, don't you?
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so you think intel would benifit by naming it after a line of condoms? Durex? you need to do your own name research or the patent trolls will be on YOU loll
The confusion in Intel's product names reflected the confusion inside the company, I think. At the time the various crazy "Extreme Edition", "Xeon", and "Pentium M" names came out, Intel had three (or four? I forget) separate engineering teams, working on entirely different implementations of the Pentium architecture.
It seems like the "NetBurst" design is well and truly dead now. The laptop chips are making their way into the desktop arena, and therefore it makes sense for the company to rationalize the naming, since every product in the Pentium family will be built on the new foundation.
The "Core Duo 2" name doesn't really roll off the tongue, though. It's not clear to me that they'll be any more successful in getting across that this is "new and improved" than they were with the Pentium 2,3,4 series. I wonder if my recollection that "everybody" knew the performance difference between 286, 386, and 486 chips is just an artifact of how much smaller the PC enthusiast market was those days?
Even though Pentiums and Xeons have shared the same core since P6 (Pentium 2), Intel has reserved some workstation/server features (like multiple processors) for the Xeon platform (AMD does the same for Athlon/Opteron).
So if Apple still wants dual-processor options for the PowerMac's successor, then they will very likely use Woodcrest (Xeon). However, the emergence of dual-core and the availability of Intel "Extreme" CPUs might mean Apple does not need more than one processor anymore for their "pro" desktops. Also, Intel offers "low end" workstation platforms that use Pentium CPUs with worstation chipsets (ECC memory, worstation graphics cards, PCI-X, PCIe x4/x8). Example: E7230 chipset.
My revised predictions: iMac will use Core 2 Duo. PowerMac (Mac Pro?) will use Core 2 Extreme (no more dual-processor) with a workstation chipset (ECC, workstation graphics cards, PCIe x4 and x8 slots). Xserve will use dual-processor Xeon (Woodcrest). I'm hoping Apple will offer another non-pro desktop (besides iMac and Mac mini) that uses Core 2 Duo.
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"Knowing Intel, who would have ever thought that the successor to the Core Duo would be the Core 2 Duo!?"
Well I was saving my jokes about redundancy for the Pentium 5, and was disappointed I wouldn't get to use them when they discarded the brand. But lo and behold, Intel gives me Core 2 Duo!
So why not just Core 4 instead? Since we're not in the Gigahertz race anymore, how about the naming scheme numbering race? Those lamers at AMD are sooo not with the program that their chips don't even have numbers! Intel has a great chance to leap ahead and get a head start in chip name numbering race, just combine the 2 and Duo (add or multiply, whatevers) and get 4, eg 4 times the awesomeness of stupid Athlon and Opteron.
Or perhaps Intel's marketers are trying to imitate GNU, but just haven't figured out recursion yet. Here's a hint guys, it's not in the arithmetic texts...
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Marketers frequently come up with something "creative" that they are just sure will provide them with the "edge" they need to get the consumer to pony up more cash. It works in the short-term and then in the long-term it is discovered that it has a negative impact on consumer recognition of the brand.
"Extreme Edition" is just a poor naming convention anyway. It does not in any way indicate to the consumer what the basis of differentiation is between this chip and the others. Category names should be functional names based on recognized consumer uses.
If those darn marketers would just listen to their programmers, ... :-)
Can anybody verify if the Intel Core 2 will be 32 bit or 64 bit?
Parent post isn't redundant!!!! It's the third frickin' post in this thread! PAY ATTENTION!
It was abandoned because Moore's law ended. The clockspped does not grow anymore. Thus they make dual core CPUs.