It is more than just "we don't have the capability". It's the fact that that same DSRV capability was designed to steal Russian submarine secrets from the bottom of the ocean. The fact that the Thresher accident gave the Navy a convenient cover story for building such tools was a slap in the face to the Russians. To have the U.S. use the DSRV technology that they built to steal Russian submarine secrets, but never got to use for said purpose (at least as far as I know), to actually save Russian submariners was just too much.
We'd never let the Russians on a SS(B)N if it were reversed, either. We've (U.S.) have been talking about DSRV for 30+ years. You'd think the Russians would at least have some capability for this by now?
So, I'm out fishing one day, catching stripers off of Plymouth Rock, right... and lo and behold, we look up and there's 3 B25's or B26's (I'm having a tough time IDing the planes) cruising around overhead, followed by some P51's up and down the coast. At one point as one of them is coming in, we got the whole boat to wave, and the pilot happily tipped his wings at us.
I have to imagine that you could get some decent airshows down Norfolk way. Hell, I was down there last February, and sitting on Virginia Beach got treated to 6 hours of F15's and F18's on practice runs. We were having a hard time deciding whether all the bangs we were hearing were bombs or sonic booms...
You sir, have nothing on people living underneath a military air approach. When a C5 galaxy comes sailing 300 feet over your house at 3am, touches down, and kicks the thrust reversers to full-throttle just so it doesn't run out of runway, come complaining. Nevermind wave after wave of f-15 on practice runs. F15's sound like crashing gongs, and a C5 will take the books off the shelf.
Military aircraft have almost zero noise abatement requirements. Two years - Hanscom AFB resident. Thankfully, it's a low-traffic airfield.;-)
People get first class so they don't have to sit in a cramped seat for 6+ hours. Get them to tokyo in 2-4 hours instead of 16-18, and they'll pay the price.
Since there are still a few graphite moderated reactors left in the world including a unit still at chernobyl that is supposedly being shut down RSN, saying that such an accident couldn't happen again is a bit premature.
I'm sorry, but with 600+ nuclear reactors in the world, it would seem to me that nuclear power has indeed turned out to be "safe enough". Minus a few notable events in Japan, the U.S. and the Ukraine, nuclear power has proven to be as safe as any other non-renewable power-generating industry.
I live next to 3 very large natural gas holding tanks that are a much more vulnerable terrorist target than any nuclear reactor.
Right. The same people who said Chernobyl would be a wasteland for millennia, and who conveniently neglect the fact that plants and animals STILL LIVE THERE!!
Maybe it's time we start reinvigorating the species with a little bit of random cellular mutation. Who knows, it might just be good for us when we hit deep space and have to deal with radiation 200 times worse than background uranium radiation.
Personally, I'm a little more worried about the LAVA and sulfur coming out of volcanoes, than the few insignificant tonnes of plutonium and uranium that would be spewed out.
But this is all ignoring the fact that if the nuclear industry has a decent reprocessing plan in plan, there would be almost no waste.:-) Except the reactor vessel itself...
I'd rather let Bush play with nuclear power than airplanes and bombs...
Which is why you encrypt the payload, and not the envelope. Same as email. The headers are all decrypted, for deliver, yet the payload, the actual message, that's what's encrypted. They can tap your line all you want, but if they don't have the keys to your conversation, they're phucked.:-)
No, what's really pathetic is how the press is just buying it.
McBride:
We're protecting our IP and it's turned into a bar-room brawl. What's at stake here at the end of the day is not just between SCO and IBM, it's what's in the balance for the computer industry. Is the future of software free or a traditional license model and the outcome will have a lot of impact on the industry going forward.
Are you saying that commercial software and free software are mutually exclusive? Because the evidence seems to indicate the opposite.
McBride:
IBM will have a lot of problems trying to hide behind the GPL. Basically the GPL is countering U.S. Copyright law. Is IBM on the side of free software while they are one of the largest IP and IT firms in the world trying to protect their own patents and copy rights? It's just the most bizarre juxtaposition... . They're supporting something that's very unfriendly to copyrights.
Can you please explain in layman's terms how the GPL is violating copyright law?
Can you explain why SCO continues to this day to distribute GPL software when you are convinced, and are telling shareholders that the GPL is breaking the law? Is not SCO explicitly breaking the law by continuing to distribute GPLd software (samba)?
McBride:
Right now, we're talking about the Linux base. We're a little company we have to choose our battles. Our goal is to take the Linux thing and get that tightened down and then swing back around on AIX. We're sort of fine to let the AIX thing tick, because the longer it goes, when we actually end up in courtroom, we can go back to June 13, 2003, and add damages. We're sort of fine to let that one run. I don't sense they've stopped shipping AIX and both sides right now are kind of on the Linux battlefront.
How does SCO intend to sue Linux users for infringement before proving infringement in the IBM case? Does this licensing action not jeapordize your 3billion litigation attempt against IBM?
Wasn't the litigation originally for 2 billion?
McBride: Our goal is not to blow up Linux. People ask why we don't go after the distributors...'If you have such a strong case, why not shut down Red Hat?' Our belief is that SCO has great opportunity in the future to let Linux keep going, not to put it on its back but for us to get a transaction fee every time it's sold. That's really our goal.
How do you intend to continue to make revenue off of the Linux licensees, once you are forced to make the offending code public, since the community has expressed a single-minded desire to replace every line of SCO code with non-offending replacements? Are you in effect not killing your own revenue stream?
McBride: If I were a commercial end user independent of anything else, given the nature of the GPL I would avoid modifying the code, I would avoid doing anything that could be considered a distribution of my application. If I'm Merrill Lynch and have a trading application proprietary to Merrill Lynch and deploy it across all my trading desks, if that deployment occurred where the Linux OS and app are distributed togetherm there are arguments that Merrill would have to provide their proprietary trading application in source form to everyone. That's a problem. I'm sure all of Merrill's competitors would love to get that but it's hard for a company to be financially viable when all of the basises are shared.
But the GPL specifically states only that you must distribute your code, along with binaries, that you make to third parties. Are you trying to indicate that Merrill Lynchs' IT department is a third party to their end users? I refer specifically to section 2b of GPL version 2:
You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
True. I mean, who really wants to render Jurassic Park on a bunch of 4004s, right? Nope, we had to wait for SGI Irixes and the like. Time will come my friend, with all these teraflop processors I keep hearing about when such a model is more than possible.
Umm... Exchange versions since 5.5 have all supported POP3 and IMAP. Wonder why they won't turn it on for you? I know in 5.5 it was a bitch because it had to be enabled site-wide, and then selectively disabled for everyone except the ones who really were using it...
v. got, (gt) got·ten, (gtn) or got get·ting, gets
1.
1. To come into possession or use of; receive: got a cat for her birthday.
1. To go after and obtain: got a book at the library; got breakfast in town.
How exactly is got a "stupid word that only appears in Sunday comics"? I [went out and] got an education.
Like we care about your interest in the Matrix. Thanks, have a nice day!:-)
I think it was Braveheart that really destroyed that notion. It even came back for an encore after a few months. Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, these were all movies approximately 3 hours in length.
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Maybe because it's about 23 days away (December 17)?
It is more than just "we don't have the capability". It's the fact that that same DSRV capability was designed to steal Russian submarine secrets from the bottom of the ocean. The fact that the Thresher accident gave the Navy a convenient cover story for building such tools was a slap in the face to the Russians. To have the U.S. use the DSRV technology that they built to steal Russian submarine secrets, but never got to use for said purpose (at least as far as I know), to actually save Russian submariners was just too much.
We'd never let the Russians on a SS(B)N if it were reversed, either. We've (U.S.) have been talking about DSRV for 30+ years. You'd think the Russians would at least have some capability for this by now?
So, I'm out fishing one day, catching stripers off of Plymouth Rock, right... and lo and behold, we look up and there's 3 B25's or B26's (I'm having a tough time IDing the planes) cruising around overhead, followed by some P51's up and down the coast. At one point as one of them is coming in, we got the whole boat to wave, and the pilot happily tipped his wings at us.
I have to imagine that you could get some decent airshows down Norfolk way. Hell, I was down there last February, and sitting on Virginia Beach got treated to 6 hours of F15's and F18's on practice runs. We were having a hard time deciding whether all the bangs we were hearing were bombs or sonic booms...
Why, we've got smallpox!!! :-)
They consistently do a fine job of putting the Red Sox in their place... doh!
You sir, have nothing on people living underneath a military air approach. When a C5 galaxy comes sailing 300 feet over your house at 3am, touches down, and kicks the thrust reversers to full-throttle just so it doesn't run out of runway, come complaining. Nevermind wave after wave of f-15 on practice runs. F15's sound like crashing gongs, and a C5 will take the books off the shelf.
;-)
Military aircraft have almost zero noise abatement requirements. Two years - Hanscom AFB resident. Thankfully, it's a low-traffic airfield.
People get first class so they don't have to sit in a cramped seat for 6+ hours. Get them to tokyo in 2-4 hours instead of 16-18, and they'll pay the price.
I cried... literally cried... the day egroups sold out to yahoo...
Anyone notice lately how Yahoo! Mail is starting to filter Yahoo! Groups mail digests as spam?
Right, but marketing is all about selling us shit we don't need. Educated consumers are a manufacturers worst enemy...
Oh sweet, i've always wanted my mail-order russian brides to have tits on their back... mmmhmm....
Since there are still a few graphite moderated reactors left in the world including a unit still at chernobyl that is supposedly being shut down RSN, saying that such an accident couldn't happen again is a bit premature.
I'm sorry, but with 600+ nuclear reactors in the world, it would seem to me that nuclear power has indeed turned out to be "safe enough". Minus a few notable events in Japan, the U.S. and the Ukraine, nuclear power has proven to be as safe as any other non-renewable power-generating industry.
I live next to 3 very large natural gas holding tanks that are a much more vulnerable terrorist target than any nuclear reactor.
Right. The same people who said Chernobyl would be a wasteland for millennia, and who conveniently neglect the fact that plants and animals STILL LIVE THERE!!
:-) Except the reactor vessel itself...
Maybe it's time we start reinvigorating the species with a little bit of random cellular mutation. Who knows, it might just be good for us when we hit deep space and have to deal with radiation 200 times worse than background uranium radiation.
Personally, I'm a little more worried about the LAVA and sulfur coming out of volcanoes, than the few insignificant tonnes of plutonium and uranium that would be spewed out.
But this is all ignoring the fact that if the nuclear industry has a decent reprocessing plan in plan, there would be almost no waste.
I'd rather let Bush play with nuclear power than airplanes and bombs...
Nothing a good set of radio receivers and a few moderately powerful computers cannot fix.
Which is why you encrypt the payload, and not the envelope. Same as email. The headers are all decrypted, for deliver, yet the payload, the actual message, that's what's encrypted. They can tap your line all you want, but if they don't have the keys to your conversation, they're phucked. :-)
Much could be said of the Slashdotus Cowardus Anonymous.
McBride: We're protecting our IP and it's turned into a bar-room brawl. What's at stake here at the end of the day is not just between SCO and IBM, it's what's in the balance for the computer industry. Is the future of software free or a traditional license model and the outcome will have a lot of impact on the industry going forward.
Are you saying that commercial software and free software are mutually exclusive? Because the evidence seems to indicate the opposite.
McBride: IBM will have a lot of problems trying to hide behind the GPL. Basically the GPL is countering U.S. Copyright law. Is IBM on the side of free software while they are one of the largest IP and IT firms in the world trying to protect their own patents and copy rights? It's just the most bizarre juxtaposition... . They're supporting something that's very unfriendly to copyrights.
Can you please explain in layman's terms how the GPL is violating copyright law?
Can you explain why SCO continues to this day to distribute GPL software when you are convinced, and are telling shareholders that the GPL is breaking the law? Is not SCO explicitly breaking the law by continuing to distribute GPLd software (samba)?
McBride: Right now, we're talking about the Linux base. We're a little company we have to choose our battles. Our goal is to take the Linux thing and get that tightened down and then swing back around on AIX. We're sort of fine to let the AIX thing tick, because the longer it goes, when we actually end up in courtroom, we can go back to June 13, 2003, and add damages. We're sort of fine to let that one run. I don't sense they've stopped shipping AIX and both sides right now are kind of on the Linux battlefront.
How does SCO intend to sue Linux users for infringement before proving infringement in the IBM case? Does this licensing action not jeapordize your 3billion litigation attempt against IBM?
Wasn't the litigation originally for 2 billion?
McBride: Our goal is not to blow up Linux. People ask why we don't go after the distributors...'If you have such a strong case, why not shut down Red Hat?' Our belief is that SCO has great opportunity in the future to let Linux keep going, not to put it on its back but for us to get a transaction fee every time it's sold. That's really our goal.
How do you intend to continue to make revenue off of the Linux licensees, once you are forced to make the offending code public, since the community has expressed a single-minded desire to replace every line of SCO code with non-offending replacements? Are you in effect not killing your own revenue stream?
McBride: If I were a commercial end user independent of anything else, given the nature of the GPL I would avoid modifying the code, I would avoid doing anything that could be considered a distribution of my application. If I'm Merrill Lynch and have a trading application proprietary to Merrill Lynch and deploy it across all my trading desks, if that deployment occurred where the Linux OS and app are distributed togetherm there are arguments that Merrill would have to provide their proprietary trading application in source form to everyone. That's a problem. I'm sure all of Merrill's competitors would love to get that but it's hard for a company to be financially viable when all of the basises are shared.
But the GPL specifically states only that you must distribute your code, along with binaries, that you make to third parties. Are you trying to indicate that Merrill Lynchs' IT department is a third party to their end users? I refer specifically to section 2b of GPL version 2:
You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License.
True. I mean, who really wants to render Jurassic Park on a bunch of 4004s, right? Nope, we had to wait for SGI Irixes and the like. Time will come my friend, with all these teraflop processors I keep hearing about when such a model is more than possible.
Umm... Exchange versions since 5.5 have all supported POP3 and IMAP. Wonder why they won't turn it on for you? I know in 5.5 it was a bitch because it had to be enabled site-wide, and then selectively disabled for everyone except the ones who really were using it...
At this point in time, only the Russians could deorbit Hubble, because NASA lacks the appropriate robotic equipment necessary to do the job.
Right, because it was a good movie... Now Titanic was 26 minutes longer, and you CERTAINLY could tell... ...
You would think, right? Why's it so hard to deport people? How much does the average deportation cost? What about repeat "deportees"?
Yeah, um... -1 pedantic.
:-)
v. got, (gt) got·ten, (gtn) or got get·ting, gets
1.
1. To come into possession or use of; receive: got a cat for her birthday.
1. To go after and obtain: got a book at the library; got breakfast in town.
How exactly is got a "stupid word that only appears in Sunday comics"? I [went out and] got an education.
Like we care about your interest in the Matrix. Thanks, have a nice day!
I think it was Braveheart that really destroyed that notion. It even came back for an encore after a few months. Titanic, Saving Private Ryan, these were all movies approximately 3 hours in length.
Both. It is entirely possible a package/app you have installed comes with an ls.exe or ls.com. :-)