From what I understand all messages from AIM user to AIM user have to go through the AOL machines, why should they have to support all of MS's users too?
AIM should stay closed unless they open the server software and JoeISP can start their own AIM server and sell AIM banner space.
If I had a chat server like that, I wouldn't want MS to run their clients through it AND get the money from the banners. Someone has to maintain the machine and pay for the bandwidth. Let MS do that themself.
This isn't like E-mail where the bandwidth and servers are spread throughout the planet.
Oh,. and the last word. Go figure no one is using their chat client. No one seems to use their play software unless they cram it down the collective public throat. (What happened to ComicChat again?) You better belive this new MSchatboy will be avalable on the desktops of Win 2000. One year later it will be the most popular chat client with the BORG collective. Every Windows magazine will give it 4 stars and rate it a "must get". (No one wants to loose that MS advertising dollar)
If it ain't purdy, den da Microsoft peoples ain't gunna use it.
Here's a good case in point.
SETI@home
The SETI people need to make a nice looking version for windows users. They develop a very pretty screen saver. Lot's of nice graphs, colours, ect,. which mean nothing at all really. But, it looks good.
On my machine (K6-2 450 256mg ram) I can run a single SETI job in about 14 hours. That is running BeOS 4.5 with SETI in a terminal window. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 2)
When I boot the same machine to Win98, I can run a SETI job in about 15 hours using the WinNT command line exe. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 2)
When I run the SETI screen saver in Win98, I'm lucky to finish a job in 40 hours. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 9)
Now compare the file size of these programs,. BeOS version - 81k NT command line exe - 140k Windows screen saver version - 727k
So, why would the SETI guys bother building a program that is much larger in file size and MUCH slower in it's process time? So it can get the masses to run it's calculations.
Last I checked, Windows users were at the top of the SETI list doing something like 1600000 jobs on just Win4.1 alone adding up to about 8600 years.
The average joe doesn't care about speed or functions, they just want it to be pretty.
The average joe also wants the newest version because they think it's better then the last version, which we all know isn't always true to form with Microsoft.
Being a computer tech in a small computer store and I don't know how many times I've had this conversation,.
"Should I upgrade to Win98?" "I don't know, does Win95 work for you?" "Yes, it runs fine." "Then I wouldn't if I were you." "But Win98 is better right?" "No. Not if Win95 is running really good for you." "Oh"
Next thing I know I get a call from them because their appX doesn't work after they upgraded to Win98. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Man, Microsoft has them by the balls.
Yes, I agree that the average joe wants all the extra features even IF they never use them.
I myself have no use for these "feature rich" programs.
That's my $0.02
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At work I use a Windows95 machine.
A business partner handed me a copy of MS Office to install.
At this point I had only used an older version of MS Office and I wasn't very impressed.
I installed the new version of MS Office following the custom install and worked hard at stripping all the crap out.
Installation done, I started MS Word.
First up I disabled the "tip o' the day".
(enter paperclip man)
At first I was frightened by Paperclip Man. Then humoured. I poked at him, called him names, then quickly became offended that Microsoft thinks of me as a little child who needs a cutesy animated "helper" designed after office supplies.
These are the following steps I took to rid myself of Paperclip Man.
I urge everyone to follow along.
1) Click Start. 2) Click Settings. 3) Click Control Panel. 4) In Control Panel find the Add/Remove Programs icon. 5) Click Add/Remove Programs. 6) Find Microsoft Office, highlight it. 7) Click the button labeled "uninstall". 8) Find Word Perfect CD. 9) Insert into CD-Rom drive. 10) Follow on screen promts to install into hard drive.
Following this routine, I have quickly removed the ill effects of Paperclip Man. MSWord has never run better.
If you check Hotmail.com (now a product of M$) you will notice it is running Apache on a Unix box. (Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b)
I guess even when M$ considers "The Importance of Reliability in an e-Commerce World" they choose _NOT_ to use NT, like everyone else.
How do they expect other people to use their products when they don't?
One of my cases has so many holes drilled in it, air has no definite in or out. Blocking the holes and only allowing air to come in the front and out the back seemed to have no effect and also seemed to be worse.
Currently, that case has no cover and totes 7 fans to keep it cool. One for each HD, one BussCool dual fan at the Video, one on the CPU heatsink, one blower pointing at the side of the CPU and one on the power supply.
I was talking this over with a friend today, and we came up with a cool idea for the case. An acrylic fishtank.
TruVu tanks (made by Aqua Plex I think) would be great for this. Nice rounded corners, all sizes and shapes, covers, lighted from the top,.ect ect.
Fishtanks also have lots of nifty stands designed to hide filters, air pumps, or in this case a small refridgerator.
You could mount the board on an acrylic rack sideways (kind of like how MB's are now) inside the tank. Use cable extention cords for the video, sound, ether, ect. Drill holes in the side and snake the cables out then fill the holes with something like epoxy. This would make moving the computer or changing peripherals easier, and less sloppy.
If you ever had to change a card on the motherboard, just lift the rack up and set it on top the tank, let it drip-drip-drip oil back in the tank while you swap the cards. Plop the rack back in.
In fact, several computers could share a giant tank (200 gal) and cooling system.
Think of how cool your computer would look in a 35 gal hex aquarium, with a neat blue light on top and perhaps little bubbles drifting up from behind the motherboard...
Remember the computer from Rollerball or the Cray supercomputer liquid cooling fountian?
Neato. I want one. I guess I know what my next project is gunna be.
Polls are all fine and dandy until someone loses an eye,..
We can click, click and even click again and vote for more Linux games, but at some point someone is going to look at the refer log and see all these people who voted and all these people who came from Slash. I think they'll put two and two together.
It's great they put the option in the poll, but I myself make a habit of sending off an e-mail or two directed at software companies asking for Linux stuff.
Personally myself, I would take a hard drive full of "more Linux stuff" e-mail over a web poll anyday.
I think e-mailing these companies and asking WHEN such and such software is going to be released would be more effective.
MONKEYS?!? Whay blame us for troubles? he heh Gnome is more fun,. KDE is cute,. give them a mascot of a lady bug or something. One thing,. that last pic (number 4) looked a lot like the FX you get from Adobe photoshop,...hmmmm ?
I can't beleive someone found that page. I forgot all about it.
In reference to some questions, 1) The site is on a Linux Box running Apache 2) The HTML was written in a general text editor by hand. Any bad HTML is my own fault. It appears some of the things mentioned only show up on Netscape 4.x and higher. 3) I don't notice any of the question marks on my machines (Red Hat 5.1 w/ Netscape 4.03 or Win95 with Netscape 3.0) What browser do these question marks show up in (and what OS?) I'm quite interested in this. I've never run into it. 4) It was written sometime ago at 3am in the morning in about 1 hour. I posted it and forgot all about it. (Like most my stuff) I'm glad some liked it. 5) And most important, I don't ever use the MS browser. I don't ever use and MS HTML editor. I don't ever use MS frontpage. I do use Win95 because I own a recording studio and the only apps I have for digital sound are made for Win95. I expect when BeOS has a few more high end apps for sound, I will make a change to that. But, until then. I'm a bit stuck. (Oh yeah, I use Linux and Win95 and 50%-50%) Oh my god, I have to make excuses for why I use Win95. Heh heh,. that's funny.
I've been using an Atari 1040ST in my Midi studio for years (it now runs alongside a much larger computer). I've gotton sick of my Win9x computer (running sound forge, cakewalk and other sound related stuff) crashing and babbling everytime I turn around. At last I have an excuse to get a BeOS box running. What fun. Hmm? I wonder if I can network my Akai DR-16 recorder to the BeOS ? Now that would be cool.
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From what I understand all messages from AIM user to AIM user have to go through the AOL machines, why should they have to support all of MS's users too?
AIM should stay closed unless they open the server software and JoeISP can start their own AIM server and sell AIM banner space.
If I had a chat server like that, I wouldn't want MS to run their clients through it AND get the money from the banners. Someone has to maintain the machine and pay for the bandwidth. Let MS do that themself.
This isn't like E-mail where the bandwidth and servers are spread throughout the planet.
Oh,. and the last word. Go figure no one is using their chat client. No one seems to use their play software unless they cram it down the collective public throat. (What happened to ComicChat again?) You better belive this new MSchatboy will be avalable on the desktops of Win 2000. One year later it will be the most popular chat client with the BORG collective. Every Windows magazine will give it 4 stars and rate it a "must get". (No one wants to loose that MS advertising dollar)
If it ain't purdy, den da Microsoft peoples ain't gunna use it.
Here's a good case in point.
SETI@home
The SETI people need to make a nice looking version for windows users. They develop a very pretty screen saver. Lot's of nice graphs, colours, ect,. which mean nothing at all really. But, it looks good.
On my machine (K6-2 450 256mg ram) I can run a single SETI job in about 14 hours. That is running BeOS 4.5 with SETI in a terminal window. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 2)
When I boot the same machine to Win98, I can run a SETI job in about 15 hours using the WinNT command line exe. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 2)
When I run the SETI screen saver in Win98, I'm lucky to finish a job in 40 hours. (pretty scale of 1-10, about 9)
Now compare the file size of these programs,.
BeOS version - 81k
NT command line exe - 140k
Windows screen saver version - 727k
So, why would the SETI guys bother building a program that is much larger in file size and MUCH slower in it's process time? So it can get the masses to run it's calculations.
Last I checked, Windows users were at the top of the SETI list doing something like 1600000 jobs on just Win4.1 alone adding up to about 8600 years.
The average joe doesn't care about speed or functions, they just want it to be pretty.
The average joe also wants the newest version because they think it's better then the last version, which we all know isn't always true to form with Microsoft.
Being a computer tech in a small computer store and I don't know how many times I've had this conversation,.
"Should I upgrade to Win98?"
"I don't know, does Win95 work for you?"
"Yes, it runs fine."
"Then I wouldn't if I were you."
"But Win98 is better right?"
"No. Not if Win95 is running really good for you."
"Oh"
Next thing I know I get a call from them because their appX doesn't work after they upgraded to Win98. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Man, Microsoft has them by the balls.
Yes, I agree that the average joe wants all the extra features even IF they never use them.
I myself have no use for these "feature rich" programs.
That's my $0.02
At work I use a Windows95 machine.
A business partner handed me a copy of MS Office to install.
At this point I had only used an older version of MS Office and I wasn't very impressed.
I installed the new version of MS Office following the custom install and worked hard at stripping all the crap out.
Installation done, I started MS Word.
First up I disabled the "tip o' the day".
(enter paperclip man)
At first I was frightened by Paperclip Man. Then humoured.
I poked at him, called him names, then quickly became offended that Microsoft thinks of me as a little child who needs a cutesy animated "helper" designed after office supplies.
These are the following steps I took to rid myself of Paperclip Man.
I urge everyone to follow along.
1) Click Start.
2) Click Settings.
3) Click Control Panel.
4) In Control Panel find the Add/Remove Programs icon.
5) Click Add/Remove Programs.
6) Find Microsoft Office, highlight it.
7) Click the button labeled "uninstall".
8) Find Word Perfect CD.
9) Insert into CD-Rom drive.
10) Follow on screen promts to install into hard drive.
Following this routine, I have quickly removed the ill effects of Paperclip Man.
MSWord has never run better.
My fault,.. I was reading another webpage while writing that,. hehh heh
If you check Hotmail.com (now a product of M$) you will notice it is running Apache on a Unix box.
(Server: Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b)
I guess even when M$ considers "The Importance of Reliability in an e-Commerce World" they choose _NOT_ to use NT, like everyone else.
How do they expect other people to use their products when they don't?
I don't get it.
One of my cases has so many holes drilled in it, air has no definite in or out. Blocking the holes and only allowing air to come in the front and out the back seemed to have no effect and also seemed to be worse.
Currently, that case has no cover and totes 7 fans to keep it cool. One for each HD, one BussCool dual fan at the Video, one on the CPU heatsink, one blower pointing at the side of the CPU and one on the power supply.
It's now keeping quite cool.
I was talking this over with a friend today, and we came up with a cool idea for the case. An acrylic fishtank.
TruVu tanks (made by Aqua Plex I think) would be great for this. Nice rounded corners, all sizes and shapes, covers, lighted from the top,.ect ect.
Fishtanks also have lots of nifty stands designed to hide filters, air pumps, or in this case a small refridgerator.
You could mount the board on an acrylic rack sideways (kind of like how MB's are now) inside the tank. Use cable extention cords for the video, sound, ether, ect. Drill holes in the side and snake the cables out then fill the holes with something like epoxy. This would make moving the computer or changing peripherals easier, and less sloppy.
If you ever had to change a card on the motherboard, just lift the rack up and set it on top the tank, let it drip-drip-drip oil back in the tank while you swap the cards. Plop the rack back in.
In fact, several computers could share a giant tank (200 gal) and cooling system.
Think of how cool your computer would look in a 35 gal hex aquarium, with a neat blue light on top and perhaps little bubbles drifting up from behind the motherboard...
Remember the computer from Rollerball or the Cray supercomputer liquid cooling fountian?
Neato. I want one.
I guess I know what my next project is gunna be.
Polls are all fine and dandy until someone loses an eye,..
We can click, click and even click again and vote for more Linux games, but at some point someone is going to look at the refer log and see all these people who voted and all these people who came from Slash. I think they'll put two and two together.
It's great they put the option in the poll, but I myself make a habit of sending off an e-mail or two directed at software companies asking for Linux stuff.
Personally myself, I would take a hard drive full of "more Linux stuff" e-mail over a web poll anyday.
I think e-mailing these companies and asking WHEN such and such software is going to be released would be more effective.
But,.. that's just me.
It looks pretty cool, I guess I know what domain I'll be hanging out on tonight.
Cheers
MONKEYS?!? Whay blame us for troubles? he heh
Gnome is more fun,. KDE is cute,. give them a mascot of a lady bug or something.
One thing,. that last pic (number 4) looked a lot like the FX you get from Adobe photoshop,...hmmmm ?
In reference to some questions,
1) The site is on a Linux Box running Apache
2) The HTML was written in a general text editor by hand. Any bad HTML is my own fault. It appears some of the things mentioned only show up on Netscape 4.x and higher.
3) I don't notice any of the question marks on my machines (Red Hat 5.1 w/ Netscape 4.03 or Win95 with Netscape 3.0) What browser do these question marks show up in (and what OS?) I'm quite interested in this. I've never run into it.
4) It was written sometime ago at 3am in the morning in about 1 hour. I posted it and forgot all about it. (Like most my stuff) I'm glad some liked it.
5) And most important, I don't ever use the MS browser. I don't ever use and MS HTML editor. I don't ever use MS frontpage. I do use Win95 because I own a recording studio and the only apps I have for digital sound are made for Win95. I expect when BeOS has a few more high end apps for sound, I will make a change to that. But, until then. I'm a bit stuck. (Oh yeah, I use Linux and Win95 and 50%-50%) Oh my god, I have to make excuses for why I use Win95. Heh heh,. that's funny.
It takes a real man to underclock them.
I've got a K6-2 350Mhz running at 300Mhz.
Call me crazy.
I've been using an Atari 1040ST in my Midi studio for years (it now runs alongside a much larger computer). I've gotton sick of my Win9x computer (running sound forge, cakewalk and other sound related stuff) crashing and babbling everytime I turn around. At last I have an excuse to get a BeOS box running. What fun.
Hmm? I wonder if I can network my Akai DR-16 recorder to the BeOS ? Now that would be cool.