Off topic but I noticed I spelled "getting" wrong. For some reason the words "gubmint", "guv'ment" etc really bug me and "prolly" too. The words are "government" and "probably". Just a pet peeve of mine.
It all does sound wrong to me. I just don't believe it is going to happen that way and you don't have any real evidence that it will. I maintain that this whole thing is way overblown and that geting the government (note correct spelling) involved in regulation based on speculation is not a good idea.
Um... it might just be that those times are generally when the internet is heavily used and your ISP and/or the ISP of the server you are playing on is probably just bogged down with heavy traffic. No conspiracy there at all.
How about waiting to see if there actually is a problem? Right now there is nothing to fix. Nobody has implemented tiered service yet. Nobody has targeted packets to slow them down yet. I say at least let the market try first (may or may not work), then if an actual problem arises, try regulation. Once regulation starts, it's only going to get more pervasive. There is a good chance that regulation will be worse than the problems that may arise without it.
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Athletic and fit throughout his life, competent in martial arts such as chariot combat, wrestling, and archery, and later easily hiking miles each day and camping in the wilderness. Images of a fat "Jolly Buddha" or Laughing Buddha are actually depictions of either Maitreya the future Buddha (Chinese Mile Fo), or a 10th century Chinese monk, Budai Heshang (Japanese Hotei)
They use them in DC. I see them all the time. The people riding them tend to be courteous though. I'd rather see a segway rider on a sidewalk than your typical city skateboard punk.
Am I on a different planet than everyone else in this thread? NO RESIDENTIAL ISP GUARANTEES THEIR SPEED IN THEIR ADS. The ads ALWAYS say speeds up to the maximum and always mention that the speed and even a connection aren't guaranteed. Maybe the problem with comprehension is with you. If you thought you were getting guaranteed speed and connectivity from your residential ISP for $30-50, you didn't pay attention to what you were buying.
Maximum download speed of 4Mbps or (6 or 8 Mbps) depending on the product that is selected. Increased speeds not yet available in all areas. Actual speeds may vary and are not guaranteed. Many factors affect download speed.
You will find this in every ISP unless you pay extra for a guarantee.
Nobody ever said that broadband providers were committing fraud. When I signed up with my ISP, there is a specific clause that says it DOES NOT GUARANTEE BANDWIDTH. EVERY residential broadband plan has this unless you pay extra for a guarantee. And even when you have guaranteed bandwidth, it STILL doesn't mean you are always going to get it. Just that when they don't provide the promised bandwidth you get a reduction in your bill. Please stop trying, you look more ignorant every time. Of course, mayve that is your goal.
Short bus? What do you think a guarantee is? All guarantees are qualified with something. They either give you what they said they would or they give it to you for free or give you an alternative.
Try looking up anything that says guaranteed. Guaranteed in NO way means it is absolutely, 100% going top be delivered. It means they will do it or give you something in exchaneg for not living up to their promise. I would be interested to hear what you think happens to the pizza place that doesn't get your pizza to you in 30 minutes or the mechanic who doesn't get your car done in 10 minutes. Are they put to death? Didn't think so.
Yeah they do. It's the same thing as overselling bandwidth, most of the time it works, people don't show up for their flight. Sometimes it doesn't work and people get bumped to first classs or to another flight. Usually they find someone on the flight who is not in any particular hurry to get where they are going and it works out fine. Not to mention that they aren't selling you the seat, they are selling you the service of fast travel. You don't get to keep the seat.
By the way, I'd like for everyone to notice how I call for an end to analogies and got an entire thread full of bad analogies. DEATH TO THE/. ANALOGIES!!!
Living up to your nickname I see. Your mechanic did NOT sell something he couldn't deliver, he just guaranteed it. He said 10 minutes guaranteed. Guare=anteed just means he will have to give you something extra on top of your oil change or give you the oil change for free. But anyway, nice try.
uh... how about we ban analogies completely from/. Who's with me?!!
In the meantime, I will point out that the flaw with this particular analogy is comparing a service (broadband) to a physical object (an acre of land). You can oversell a service, but it doesn't work with physical objects. People tend to want to get their hands on a physical object and it becomes apparent very quickly that it's been oversold. Most of the time, users will be surfing the web or checking email. They won't be using their full bandwidth. When they do occasionally use their full bandwidth, most likely it will be available.
I'd be shocked if you could produce one piece of evidence that Internet and Satellite radio are "pummeling" terrestrial radio. Last I checked there were only about 10 million total satellite subscribers (XM and Sirius) and when the "King of All Media", Howard Stern left for Sirius, he took a whopping 1/4 of his audience with him.
I am not sure whether it is me or you who is missing the point here, but since I am a super-genius, I am going to assume that it is you. Take a look at what the parent of my post was saying. He was putting down the MS player by saying it was WAL*MART chic. Then I cleverly pointed out that they sell the iPod at Wal-mart.
Not to pick on you personally, but I really wish slashdot had a filter that I could set up so I wouldn't see any posts that contain the words "Gubmint" or "Prolly". I can handle a lot of silliness, but these grate on my last nerve for some reason.
Actually, my original point was that there are currently crimes committed by hardcore drug addicts in order to get money to buy more drugs. Are these same people going to suddenly have more money if the drugs were legal? No, so these crimes continue to happen. Therefore, you have disproved nothing.
One other point on the wikipedia list, it was mostly actors, musicians etc. these are people who make a lot of money and have a lot of down time. I'd like to see these people hold down a steady 9-5 job while living the same lifestyle. I'm betting it wouldn't work out too well.
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Off topic but I noticed I spelled "getting" wrong. For some reason the words "gubmint", "guv'ment" etc really bug me and "prolly" too. The words are "government" and "probably". Just a pet peeve of mine.
It all does sound wrong to me. I just don't believe it is going to happen that way and you don't have any real evidence that it will. I maintain that this whole thing is way overblown and that geting the government (note correct spelling) involved in regulation based on speculation is not a good idea.
Um... it might just be that those times are generally when the internet is heavily used and your ISP and/or the ISP of the server you are playing on is probably just bogged down with heavy traffic. No conspiracy there at all.
How about waiting to see if there actually is a problem? Right now there is nothing to fix. Nobody has implemented tiered service yet. Nobody has targeted packets to slow them down yet. I say at least let the market try first (may or may not work), then if an actual problem arises, try regulation. Once regulation starts, it's only going to get more pervasive. There is a good chance that regulation will be worse than the problems that may arise without it.
The real question is how in the heck does he put this thing on?!!
I wonder what it would come up with for "Natual Language Programming..."
They use them in DC. I see them all the time. The people riding them tend to be courteous though. I'd rather see a segway rider on a sidewalk than your typical city skateboard punk.
Am I on a different planet than everyone else in this thread? NO RESIDENTIAL ISP GUARANTEES THEIR SPEED IN THEIR ADS. The ads ALWAYS say speeds up to the maximum and always mention that the speed and even a connection aren't guaranteed. Maybe the problem with comprehension is with you. If you thought you were getting guaranteed speed and connectivity from your residential ISP for $30-50, you didn't pay attention to what you were buying.
Nobody ever said that broadband providers were committing fraud. When I signed up with my ISP, there is a specific clause that says it DOES NOT GUARANTEE BANDWIDTH. EVERY residential broadband plan has this unless you pay extra for a guarantee. And even when you have guaranteed bandwidth, it STILL doesn't mean you are always going to get it. Just that when they don't provide the promised bandwidth you get a reduction in your bill. Please stop trying, you look more ignorant every time. Of course, mayve that is your goal.
Short bus? What do you think a guarantee is? All guarantees are qualified with something. They either give you what they said they would or they give it to you for free or give you an alternative.
Try looking up anything that says guaranteed. Guaranteed in NO way means it is absolutely, 100% going top be delivered. It means they will do it or give you something in exchaneg for not living up to their promise. I would be interested to hear what you think happens to the pizza place that doesn't get your pizza to you in 30 minutes or the mechanic who doesn't get your car done in 10 minutes. Are they put to death? Didn't think so.
Yeah they do. It's the same thing as overselling bandwidth, most of the time it works, people don't show up for their flight. Sometimes it doesn't work and people get bumped to first classs or to another flight. Usually they find someone on the flight who is not in any particular hurry to get where they are going and it works out fine. Not to mention that they aren't selling you the seat, they are selling you the service of fast travel. You don't get to keep the seat.
By the way, I'd like for everyone to notice how I call for an end to analogies and got an entire thread full of bad analogies. DEATH TO THE /. ANALOGIES!!!
Living up to your nickname I see. Your mechanic did NOT sell something he couldn't deliver, he just guaranteed it. He said 10 minutes guaranteed. Guare=anteed just means he will have to give you something extra on top of your oil change or give you the oil change for free. But anyway, nice try.
uh... how about we ban analogies completely from /. Who's with me?!!
In the meantime, I will point out that the flaw with this particular analogy is comparing a service (broadband) to a physical object (an acre of land). You can oversell a service, but it doesn't work with physical objects. People tend to want to get their hands on a physical object and it becomes apparent very quickly that it's been oversold. Most of the time, users will be surfing the web or checking email. They won't be using their full bandwidth. When they do occasionally use their full bandwidth, most likely it will be available.
...seriously, who's with me?!!
I'd be shocked if you could produce one piece of evidence that Internet and Satellite radio are "pummeling" terrestrial radio. Last I checked there were only about 10 million total satellite subscribers (XM and Sirius) and when the "King of All Media", Howard Stern left for Sirius, he took a whopping 1/4 of his audience with him.
You must be new here.
Touche?
I am not sure whether it is me or you who is missing the point here, but since I am a super-genius, I am going to assume that it is you. Take a look at what the parent of my post was saying. He was putting down the MS player by saying it was WAL*MART chic. Then I cleverly pointed out that they sell the iPod at Wal-mart.
Not to pick on you personally, but I really wish slashdot had a filter that I could set up so I wouldn't see any posts that contain the words "Gubmint" or "Prolly". I can handle a lot of silliness, but these grate on my last nerve for some reason.
Not to be a grammar nazi or a spelling nazi or both, but only on /. could a statement such as this be "interesting"
Actually, my original point was that there are currently crimes committed by hardcore drug addicts in order to get money to buy more drugs. Are these same people going to suddenly have more money if the drugs were legal? No, so these crimes continue to happen. Therefore, you have disproved nothing.
One other point on the wikipedia list, it was mostly actors, musicians etc. these are people who make a lot of money and have a lot of down time. I'd like to see these people hold down a steady 9-5 job while living the same lifestyle. I'm betting it wouldn't work out too well.