God gave Adam and Eve two commandments. 1) Don't eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. 2) Multiply and replenish the Earth.
Unlike most other Christian religions (in my understanding), Mormons don't believe that Adam and Eve were able to have children in the Garden of Eden. It was a place of innocence, free from sin and pain, and that includes the pain of childbirth. However, without childbirth, the plan of God to populate a world with his children would be frustrated.
Enter the commandments above. God, being perfectly just, couldn't subject humanity to the pain of childbirth and mortality in general unless they "chose" it by breaking a commandment--eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve couldn't fulfill the second commandment, to have children, unless they broke the first commandment.
There's no conflict between the commandments--there was no time limit given on the second commandment, so Adam and Eve could have lived eternally in the Garden of Eden without having children, yet never breaking the commandment. Never fulfilling it as well, of course.
Eve made a choice. A fully conscious, deliberate, logical choice. She chose to break the first commandment, allowing a just God to subject her pain, to allow her to "fall" from her perfect, immortal state to a mortal state and fulfill the second commandment. Adam, being logical, chose to support her in that action.
There was no punishment, no jerkiness, just a perfect fulfilling of God's plan from all the parties involved.
Are the majority of us genuinely possessed of such remarkable self-control? Or might some of these self-reported stoics be exercising a bit of selective memory?
Just because the submitter has a temper and a foul mouth doesn't mean everyone does...
There's nothing worth "getting" at the Lagrange points, or geosynchronous orbit, or any number of places. That doesn't mean it's not worth going there.
By that logic, I hate to break it to you but all computers are already sentient. Ever take a hammer to a computer? That noise it makes is proof of its sentience.
Question: How the hell do you smuggle a cell phone into prison?
Answer: You don't. You bribe/threaten a guard.
Sure, you can smuggle a cell phone into prison. At our local county jail, the inmates tend a three-acre garden during the summer. There's no fence around it, no bars, no watch towers. Anybody could drop a cell phone or a stash of drugs into a carved-out watermelon, and it's trotted into the prison kitchen the next day.
Three inmates work at the animal shelter next door as well. While the inmates hose out the kennels, people off the street walk up and down looking at animals. How can the shelter workers tell that one of the visitors isn't the inmate's cousin, dropping off a bag of drugs?
It's laughably easy to smuggle things into prison, especially minimum-security ones with work-release programs.
You have every right to your opinion, but Latter-day Saints believe marriage is an eternal and sacred commitment, not a "contemporary political issue." Hence their interest.
>By staying in their church, Mormons explicitly endorse their churches actions and stances
I completely agree.
>...the LDS church can and will inject itself and its considerable demographic and monetary clout directly and voluminously into any political debate that takes its fancy
I wouldn't doubt it. I can even tell you what political debates will take it's fancy: those involving religious issues.
I'll even toss out another idea: it has every right to do so. When you say "the LDS church" what you're really saying is "every member that belongs to the LDS church." Those members have every right to participate in the democratic process, and the "leaders" of the LDS church have as much right to preach their viewpoint to their members as the man in the commercial on TV.
>You can stay and support the actions of your church leaders, or you can leave.
Again, we're totally in agreement here. Even more-so in the Mormon church than any other, since twice a year we have a world-wide meeting where every member has a chance to *literally* raise their hand in support or disagreement with church leaders--watch it online, you'll see the actual hand-raise.
For what it's worth, I think the reason this topic is so difficult to discuss is because there's so little data to go on. I think the LDS church is concerned about the long-term effects on society, but obviously there's been no studies done.
There's no good analogy, but consider it like proposing legalizing off-shore drilling before doing environmental studies, while what little data you have shows what you consider a lot of negative effects.
I don't think you should put words in your grandfather's mouth, or sentiments into his opinion.
This kid isn't selling his "vote," he's selling his morals to the highest bidder. A vote isn't a car stereo. A vote is an action, reflective of your personal beliefs.
This kid is saying that he's willing to claim to have a particular moral stance in exchange for some cash. Is that what your grandfather almost died for?
Already been done: http://compumed.com/
Comes with strobe lights for deaf people, audio alerts for blind people, I think it can even phone an emergency contact if the medicine isn't taken--very well thought out. And it's been around for several years.
an IRS breach could also jeopardize the banking information of the 46% of filers who requested direct deposit refunds
How could this happen? If I remember my last tax form correctly, I just put my account number and bank routing number on it. Getting this information doesn't allow an attacker to withdraw any money. Perhaps it gets them one step closer, but it's a small step.
I just an incredibly genius idea. What if all executable files, whatever the common or arcane extension, were underlined or colored (like hyperlinks in HTML). Scanning a directly listing, the bright red executable files would stand right out from the rest of the black text. Just like people have been taught than underlined text on HTML pages can be clicked, they will learn than bright red files can be executed, and will take the appropriate caution.
The police don't need to detect whether a passenger or a driver is the one talking. The vast majority of cars only have a single occupant (carpool lanes, anyone?) and they'll cherry-pick those, while ignoring the cars with multiple occupants. There will still be more than enough cars to keep them busy.
I lived in a small town in southern Illinois for a while: El Dorado. There were several intersections that had no street signs, and what happened is that we locals would treat the intersections as "Yields", while out-of-towners would simply blow through them, not realizing that just because they had no street signs, that didn't mean the other direction DID.
Of course, that raises a dilemma: with no signs, how do you alert people that they're entering a city/area with no signs?
And in today's litigious society, who's at fault in an accident?
You know, I'm going to invent a formula for getting modded higher. It'll be something along the lines of:
1. Read popular story
2. Read new story
3. Make some humorously ironic comment on the current story based on newly-gained group knowledge from previous story.
4. Add optional Soviet Russia joke, Overlord welcome, or "Oh, wait..." sentence fragment at end.
5. Profit!!!
So that formula is my invention. Please sign the following NDA with prior-invention clause below...
Once again, not really news. This doesn't change anything
What are you talking about? Of COURSE it's news. By your rationale, capturing Osama bin Laden wouldn't be news because it wouldn't change the fact that terrorism will continue, even if it's by other terrorists.
(Isn't it cool how you can turn anything into a discussion of Bush's War on Terror?)
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No, that's not what Mormons believe. Perhaps you're thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses, who believe that 144,000 will go to heaven?
Let me give you the view of a non Mormon: Mormonism is bonkers!
That's a compelling counter-argument.
Let me give you the view of a Mormon.
God gave Adam and Eve two commandments. 1) Don't eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. 2) Multiply and replenish the Earth.
Unlike most other Christian religions (in my understanding), Mormons don't believe that Adam and Eve were able to have children in the Garden of Eden. It was a place of innocence, free from sin and pain, and that includes the pain of childbirth. However, without childbirth, the plan of God to populate a world with his children would be frustrated.
Enter the commandments above. God, being perfectly just, couldn't subject humanity to the pain of childbirth and mortality in general unless they "chose" it by breaking a commandment--eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve couldn't fulfill the second commandment, to have children, unless they broke the first commandment.
There's no conflict between the commandments--there was no time limit given on the second commandment, so Adam and Eve could have lived eternally in the Garden of Eden without having children, yet never breaking the commandment. Never fulfilling it as well, of course.
Eve made a choice. A fully conscious, deliberate, logical choice. She chose to break the first commandment, allowing a just God to subject her pain, to allow her to "fall" from her perfect, immortal state to a mortal state and fulfill the second commandment. Adam, being logical, chose to support her in that action.
There was no punishment, no jerkiness, just a perfect fulfilling of God's plan from all the parties involved.
Just find your nearest Mormon neighbor and mooch off them.
Just because the submitter has a temper and a foul mouth doesn't mean everyone does...
You're not the customer, the websites are. They have no reason to ask the visitors to the websites to opt in or out.
There's nothing worth "getting" at the Lagrange points, or geosynchronous orbit, or any number of places. That doesn't mean it's not worth going there.
By that logic, I hate to break it to you but all computers are already sentient. Ever take a hammer to a computer? That noise it makes is proof of its sentience.
Question: How the hell do you smuggle a cell phone into prison? Answer: You don't. You bribe/threaten a guard. Sure, you can smuggle a cell phone into prison. At our local county jail, the inmates tend a three-acre garden during the summer. There's no fence around it, no bars, no watch towers. Anybody could drop a cell phone or a stash of drugs into a carved-out watermelon, and it's trotted into the prison kitchen the next day. Three inmates work at the animal shelter next door as well. While the inmates hose out the kennels, people off the street walk up and down looking at animals. How can the shelter workers tell that one of the visitors isn't the inmate's cousin, dropping off a bag of drugs? It's laughably easy to smuggle things into prison, especially minimum-security ones with work-release programs.
>contemporary political issue
You have every right to your opinion, but Latter-day Saints believe marriage is an eternal and sacred commitment, not a "contemporary political issue." Hence their interest.
>By staying in their church, Mormons explicitly endorse their churches actions and stances
I completely agree.
>...the LDS church can and will inject itself and its considerable demographic and monetary clout directly and voluminously into any political debate that takes its fancy
I wouldn't doubt it. I can even tell you what political debates will take it's fancy: those involving religious issues.
I'll even toss out another idea: it has every right to do so. When you say "the LDS church" what you're really saying is "every member that belongs to the LDS church." Those members have every right to participate in the democratic process, and the "leaders" of the LDS church have as much right to preach their viewpoint to their members as the man in the commercial on TV.
>You can stay and support the actions of your church leaders, or you can leave.
Again, we're totally in agreement here. Even more-so in the Mormon church than any other, since twice a year we have a world-wide meeting where every member has a chance to *literally* raise their hand in support or disagreement with church leaders--watch it online, you'll see the actual hand-raise.
For what it's worth, I think the reason this topic is so difficult to discuss is because there's so little data to go on. I think the LDS church is concerned about the long-term effects on society, but obviously there's been no studies done.
There's no good analogy, but consider it like proposing legalizing off-shore drilling before doing environmental studies, while what little data you have shows what you consider a lot of negative effects.
Most criminals are dumb. Ergo, it will work on most criminals.
I don't think you should put words in your grandfather's mouth, or sentiments into his opinion. This kid isn't selling his "vote," he's selling his morals to the highest bidder. A vote isn't a car stereo. A vote is an action, reflective of your personal beliefs. This kid is saying that he's willing to claim to have a particular moral stance in exchange for some cash. Is that what your grandfather almost died for?
Read the whole story on one page. (Auto-generated from the Wired story)
So that link goes to the c't online Offline Update Download Project page? Wow.
Already been done: http://compumed.com/ Comes with strobe lights for deaf people, audio alerts for blind people, I think it can even phone an emergency contact if the medicine isn't taken--very well thought out. And it's been around for several years.
Your profit would actually be (N-M)*U - L, where L=Lawyers. They're a constant.
I just an incredibly genius idea. What if all executable files, whatever the common or arcane extension, were underlined or colored (like hyperlinks in HTML). Scanning a directly listing, the bright red executable files would stand right out from the rest of the black text. Just like people have been taught than underlined text on HTML pages can be clicked, they will learn than bright red files can be executed, and will take the appropriate caution.
The police don't need to detect whether a passenger or a driver is the one talking. The vast majority of cars only have a single occupant (carpool lanes, anyone?) and they'll cherry-pick those, while ignoring the cars with multiple occupants. There will still be more than enough cars to keep them busy.
I lived in a small town in southern Illinois for a while: El Dorado. There were several intersections that had no street signs, and what happened is that we locals would treat the intersections as "Yields", while out-of-towners would simply blow through them, not realizing that just because they had no street signs, that didn't mean the other direction DID.
Of course, that raises a dilemma: with no signs, how do you alert people that they're entering a city/area with no signs?
And in today's litigious society, who's at fault in an accident?
You know, I'm going to invent a formula for getting modded higher. It'll be something along the lines of:
1. Read popular story
2. Read new story
3. Make some humorously ironic comment on the current story based on newly-gained group knowledge from previous story.
4. Add optional Soviet Russia joke, Overlord welcome, or "Oh, wait..." sentence fragment at end.
5. Profit!!!
So that formula is my invention. Please sign the following NDA with prior-invention clause below...
Once again, not really news. This doesn't change anything
What are you talking about? Of COURSE it's news. By your rationale, capturing Osama bin Laden wouldn't be news because it wouldn't change the fact that terrorism will continue, even if it's by other terrorists.
(Isn't it cool how you can turn anything into a discussion of Bush's War on Terror?)
Wait...what video store has my shelves?
Lather, rinse, repeat.
I can see where the Aussies would have a pretty bad spam problem; most spam is already focused on the Down Under regions.