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A Smart Pillbox To Improve Medication Compliance

Roland Piquepaille writes "A major challenge in public health is that people do not take their medications, a phenomenon known as 'medication non-adherence.' In the US alone, it is estimated that this accounts for 10% of all hospital visits and costs the healthcare system $100 billion per year and $60 billion to the pharmaceutical industry. Now, an MIT research team thinks it has a solution to this problem that will save lives worldwide. They've developed the uBox, a convenient, palm-sized, intelligent pill dispenser, 'which reminds a patient when it is time to take his medication, records when a patient has taken a dose, and prevents a patient from double-dosing.' The first large-scale trial with 100 uBoxes is scheduled to begin in May in Bihar, India, in a 6-month long tuberculosis treatment program."

145 comments

  1. And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how does the pillbox know that you actually took the pill, as opposed to taking it out of the pillbox so that it will quit nagging you?

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    1. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by gotzero · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would be much more impressed with some method of administration that would be able to overcome purposefully missed doses in certain patients. I think a lot of the problems with missed dosages are people thinking that they are feeling better, and therefore do not need the medicines they are taking. That said, I think a huge proportion of prescribed drugs are unnecessary, and that practice should be looked into more...

    2. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Funny

      And how does the pillbox know that you actually took the pill It should wear a condom if it's not sure.
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    3. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by truesaer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Medication non-compliance is usually due to forgetfulness rather than intentionally not taking it (they can't force you anyway). So really just alerting/reminding you is probably all they want to do.

    4. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by John3 · · Score: 1

      The same way it knows if the correct person actually removed the pill from the pillbox.

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    5. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      And how does the pillbox know that you actually took the pill, as opposed to taking it out of the pillbox so that it will quit nagging you?

      And how does it know that the pill you just took out didn't fall in the sewer and that you need another one right now?

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    6. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by gmack · · Score: 1

      Indeed.. I'm as absent minded as they come especially if I'm thinking through a solution for a client or an interesting programing puzzle. My problem is that I just can't remember if I've taken my meds or not. I usually figure it out eventually when I start having trouble breathing but that's not an optimal method of discovery.

      I would buy one of these devices in an instant if it handled inhaled meds.

    7. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Dunbal · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I agree. And they are going to start with TB patients. Wonderful. Yes, TB patients "forget to take their meds". Right. TB patients stop taking their meds because a) they don't want to be orange colored anymore (Rifampicin) and have can barely eat because of their medication-induced gastritis.

      Lots of people stop taking their meds because they don't like the side effects (but can't be bothered to mention it to their doctor because after all they don't feel so bad from their original condition when they are off the meds). Not because they "forget".

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    8. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Adambomb · · Score: 1

      You're damn right they can force you, just not physically.

      Non-compliance with a condition is grounds for exclusion of coverage with most insurances. You can not take the pills all you like, but if it jibbers you up you're paying the bills.

      I'd say thats a bit of motivation, although a problem is sleazier insurances will avoid mentioning this fact when people mention "oh my doctor has me on this, but I don't take it".

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    9. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Kaki+Nix+Sain · · Score: 1

      And how does it know I'm double-dosing, as opposed to needing another one because I dropped the first behind the cabinet (again)?

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    10. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Original+Replica · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Given that you have to take the pillbox to get refilled and reset every two weeks any how, I'm not sure, other than education, there is any good way to encourage people to finish their antibiotic prescription once they are feeling better. If it wasn't for the development of resistant viruses, I wouldn't even try to solve that problem beyond pointing out the story of someone who stopped taking their TB meds and died because of it. But with resistant strains developing because of this I would be tempted to use a Norplant type delivery system for all antibiotics that are in danger of becoming useless due to resistant strains. In some ways the taking of a strong anti-biotic is using a public commodity, the effectiveness of that drug. If it is abused then the public commodity can be damaged when resistant strains develop. However, industrial livestock are much more problematic in this area than negligent patients.

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    11. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by mi · · Score: 1

      Medication non-compliance is usually due to forgetfulness rather than intentionally not taking it

      I'd be interested in statistics on this matter... I know one — otherwise meticulous — elderly woman, who only takes the prescribed medicines, when she has acute pain (the prescription is for regular use). I have heard of others...

      I'm sure, some people just forget (especially, if they are on anti-memory loss medication, ha-ha), but I'm not at all certain, they represent the vast majority of "nonadherents"...

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    12. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by causality · · Score: 1

      I would be much more impressed with some method of administration that would be able to overcome purposefully missed doses in certain patients. I think a lot of the problems with missed dosages are people thinking that they are feeling better, and therefore do not need the medicines they are taking.

      Any halfway decent doctor will also tell the patient that they need to completely follow the instructions given them along with whatever prescription they are taking. If someone disregards their doctor's medical advice and suffers as a result, I'm really not sure what they were expecting or what there is to complain about. This situation is not broken, nor does it have a victim. What's the point in even going to a doctor if you (very unwisely) think you know more about medicine than they do?

      I foresee a silly objection, so I'll say that this entire question obviously wouldn't apply in the case of people who cannot be expected to follow instructions (say, an Alzheimer's patient) and other arrangements would have to be made.

      That said, I think a huge proportion of prescribed drugs are unnecessary, and that practice should be looked into more...

      If we're going to make an effort to change anything, this would be a much more worthy target. Truly unnecessary medications would have implications that can directly and indirectly affect nearly everyone. Since you are supposed to go to your doctor for a diagnosis and let them advise the best way to treat your condition, getting rid of the commercials and other advertisements that market prescription drugs directly to the public would be a good first step.
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    13. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is true.
      I suffer from depression, and have been prescribed fluoxitine (Prozac) a number of times. I stopped taking the meds once I "felt better", but a couple months later I was back in the GPs office listening to him say that "while you felt fine when you stopped the medication, it requires a further few months to have a lasting effect."

    14. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by brianosaurus · · Score: 1

      My problems is more one of forgetfulness than thinking I know better than the doctor. I keep taking the pills (well, in theory anyway...) after I start feeling better, until the end of the 10 or 14 day (or whatever) course. I start feeling better in the first few days because the antibiotics start to knock out the virus and my body can begin functioning normally.

      The virus is still multiplying and trying to do its thing, but the antibiotics are keeping it down below the threshold that my body can tolerate. If I take away the antibiotics right when I start to feel good, the virus just has to spread a little bit to knock me out again. So instead I keep taking the pills as prescribed and overload the virus until its gone.

      That's the theory anyway. In practice I don't take anything on a regular basis, so when I get sick enough to go to the doctor, and I get a presciption it is not part of my routine; its something new. When I wake up in the morning feeling groggy, I don't always remember to take the pill. If I'm not home in the evening to take another with dinner, I usually don't remember to take it when I get home. At the end of the course I'll have at least half a dozen extras, and then I don't know if I should try to finish them off over the next few days or do I timeout on the 10 days and stop? Ugh.

      I'm much better about giving my pets their prescribed medications than I am myself. But still not perfect.

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    15. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 1

      I foresee a silly objection, so I'll say that this entire question obviously wouldn't apply in the case of people who cannot be expected to follow instructions (say, an Alzheimer's patient) and other arrangements would have to be made.

      Although I broadly agree with you, there are an awful lot of people who find it difficult to comply properly with their meds, not just Alzheimer's patients. Particularly older people, who are taking maybe ten or so different meds, all from identical looking bottles with badly printed labels, with pills that can also look very much alike. So you've got the weekly pill that if taken daily will kill you next to the five times per day pill, and you have to be some kind of pharmacist to tell them apart. Combine that with a mild memory problem (which is very common), bad eyesight, or questionable literacy, and you have a recipe for disaster that is at present causing a lot of harm.

    16. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by JavaManJim · · Score: 1

      Hmm medical update. A virus is a virus and typically does not have an easy "pill type" cure. Antibiotics are targeted toward bacterial infections.

      Jim

    17. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by balloonhead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I am a doctor. It is a given that of all the medication courses I prescribe:
        - one-third of people will take it correctly
        - one-third of people will try and take it correctly, but will get it wrong
        - one-third of people won't even try to take it correctly (e.g. not finish a course, not pick up the prescription)

      I am sure the numbers are not so round but this was the repeated teaching at medical school and beyond.

      As you say, unnecessary prescribing is a pain in the arse too. Often it is done with good intentions but the manpower that would be required to review the original indication for a prescription, the ongoing need for it, whether (better or cheaper) more modern alternatives are there, new information regarding the safety of drugs and any other relevant factors makes it impossible on a large scale in practical terms. I am still waiting for an IT system in medicine that could semi-automate it (there are a number of things in medicine that could be revolutionised by proper IT but every system I have seen has been a kludge) as that would go a long way towards addressing issues like these.

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    18. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Hyperspite · · Score: 1

      He could be talking about Aciclovir or HIV meds :D Always think positive

    19. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by JavaManJim · · Score: 1

      Hi Hyperspite,

      Thanks for the "think positive" suggestion. That's nicely uplifting!

      Jim

    20. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Hyperspite · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean "think positive" as an attack on you, I meant it in a sarcastic way. Sorry for the confusion.

    21. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Any halfway decent doctor will also tell the patient that they need to completely follow the instructions given them along with whatever prescription they are taking. If someone disregards their doctor's medical advice and suffers as a result, I'm really not sure what they were expecting or what there is to complain about. This situation is not broken, nor does it have a victim. What's the point in even going to a doctor if you (very unwisely) think you know more about medicine than they do?

      If you stop taking antibiotics before they have finished their job of killing every last bacteria from your body, the ones left are the ones most resistant to antibiotics in the first place. Random variation then makes some of their descendants even more resistant; and, when you start feeling ill and taking medication again, it is those resistant bacterias which survive when you stop it again. In other words, not completing the course of medication creates a selective pressure towards medicine-resistant disease.

      Now, if the bacteria would be content to sit in your body and merely kill you once they develop sufficient level of resistance to no longer be treatable, this would merely earn you a Darwing award. But they don't. Disease has a tendency to spread. Consequently, there could be dozens, hundreds, thousands or even millions of innocent victims, all because Joe Average couldn't be bothered to take one lousy pill per day for a few weeks.

      So let's develop something which can be implanted under Joe's skin and melts there, releasing the medicine at the desired rate for the desired time.

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    22. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 1

      --"it requires a further few months to have a lasting effect."--

      Not sure if you were just summarizing or not, but just for the record... Prozac is a 'concentration' drug not a 'presence' drug. It has to be in the body for a length of time at a certain concentration in order to have the desired effect, unlike say, an anti-biotic which simply has to be there. Prozac is an SSRI (you probably already know this, but just want you to have the info if you don't already.) it works by prohibiting Seratonin from being destroyed after it's used to transmit a nerve impulse, thus increasing the amount of it in the synapse.

      http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/ssriwork.htm

      Just in case you didn't have the info :)

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    23. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Medication non-compliance is usually due to forgetfulness rather than intentionally not taking it...

      Actually, there is a strong psychosocial component to non-compliance: There tends to be higher non-compliance among lower socioeconomic groups, probably as a psychological reaction to a general sense of disempowerment (they feel that doctors have power 'over' them, so disobeying the prescription is a form of passive aggression).

      The solution is a meaningful dialog between doctor and patient (so that the patient feels they are partnered with the doctor towards a common, clearly-articulated goal of the patient's well-being), not an impersonal gadget.
    24. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way I heard it, poor people try to stop taking medication as soon as they can manage without it, so they'd have some in reserve for similar problems later if they (or their family or friends) can't afford to see a doctor again or fill another prescription. I think it's a reasonable response to the barbaric way we ration medical treatment, as long as somebody warns them which medications (like antibiotics!) are dangerous to stop.

  2. uhh by deathtopaulw · · Score: 1

    Unless a court has ordered it, you can't be forced to take your medicine. Pretty much all they can do is bad vibe you. This is a terrifying little idea because I could easily see the insurance companies lobbying for laws requiring that you take medication.......

    1. Re:uhh by mangu · · Score: 1

      This is a terrifying little idea because I could easily see the insurance companies lobbying for laws requiring that you take medication.......

      A law requiring you to do what's best for you, after you have paid insurance exactly for that purpose. Why is it that this law doesn't seem such a bad thing?
    2. Re:uhh by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      A law requiring you to do what's best for you, after you have paid insurance exactly for that purpose. Why is it that this law doesn't seem such a bad thing?

      Why is it that you can't see what's wrong with that scenario?

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    3. Re:uhh by esper · · Score: 1

      Just let me write you a prescription for some personality-altering drugs which you are required by law to take. Then maybe you'll see why it's a bad thing. But if you do, we'll just increase the dosage until your mind is sufficiently numbed that you don't notice any more.

    4. Re:uhh by bzipitidoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because we don't know what is best. MDs are hardly infallible, can't always be on the spot, and are under enormous pressure to overmedicate. Sell more pills that way, and keeps them covered in case of a lawsuit. We still have much to learn about medication. For instance, grapefruit magnifies the power of a great deal of medicine. It is quite possible for half the dosage with grapefruit to be as good as a full dose without.

      I'm wondering if the pharmaceutical industry's "losses" are because people aren't buying what they aren't taking.

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    5. Re:uhh by mangu · · Score: 1

      Because we don't know what is best. MDs are hardly infallible

      OK, I see your point, and the two others who answered my post. But then, why pay insurance? If you think grapefruit will make you well, good for you, but why do you have to pay an insurance company to eat grapefruit?


      If you are paying an insurance company to get medical treatment, they *will* give you the treatment you paid for. However, if you prefer some "alternative" form of treatment, then why the f**k do you need an insurance company?


      Well, you may be among those who make their living from medical malpractice suits. THEN I can understand you may not be willing to take the medicine the doctors prescribed you.

    6. Re:uhh by syousef · · Score: 1

      A law requiring you to do what's best for you, after you have paid insurance exactly for that purpose. Why is it that this law doesn't seem such a bad thing?

      1. Some doctors are complete idiots. I've had one doctor who'd only met me for the first time suggest stomach stapling in the first 10 minutes of the visit for high blood pressure (I wasn't on blood pressure meds and he didn't suggest them until i brought up the possibility. Apparently if you're overweight he thinks a stomach stapling is better than blood pressure meds as a first line defence against high blood pressure). Yes I'm overweight, but no not enough to make this appropriate. The same doctor was unable to clear my ear of earwax and I had to go back to my regular doctor a couple of days later because my ear had actually been more thoroughly clogged. Not my only horror story with doctors just my most recent. My wife has been told to take increasing dosages of medication for seizures that was actually causing them (3 doctors upped the dosage despite contraindicaitons being, you guessed it seizures). Don't get me started on doctors that can't even tell if a shoulder is dislocated because it's posterior not anterior.

      Don't get me wrong. A good doctor may save your life literally. (Unfortunately bad doctor will kill you literally)

      In other words don't assume that any doctor will know or care what is best for the patient. Taking away a patient's right to self-determination and placing it in the hands of a badly flawed medical establishment is a violation of human rights.

      2. There is a lot of very bad medicine out there with very bad side effects. A contra-indication is a condition that, if it occurs, means you should stop taking the medicine as soon as possible (some medications have very bad side effects if you quit cold turkey). How do you tell if a patient is pinged for compliance because they've stopped taking the medication when its the right thing to do or not?

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    7. Re:uhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is not what Law is for.

    8. Re:uhh by orangesquid · · Score: 1

      A good doctor will admit when he/she needs to consult another doctor, or refer you to someone who understands your particular situation better. I've met a few excellent doctors. Some of the best doctors I've ever met have said things you'd "never want to hear a doctor say," like
      (1) Wow, that's interesting. I want to show this to some of my buddies, hold on...
      (2) I'll be damned if I knew why that was happening!
      (3) I don't really know. What do *you* think is going on?

      People expect doctors to be gods. The placebo effect (which accounts for part of the medical establishment's income, and can probably never be completely eliminated) depends largely (in our society, at the current time) on doctors having somewhat inflated egos. In other words, the problem is just as much the patients as it is the doctors.

      The doctor-patient relationship works best when there *is* one---when there is an exchange of information, resulting in a solution (or at least progress). I've (unfortunately) met a few doctors who would would just look me over and hand me a prescription, without asking me what was wrong!

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    9. Re:uhh by MttJocy · · Score: 1

      It seams you completely failed to understand the point re grapefruit, grapefruit juice has an effect on a multitude of liver enzymes (inducers of some, inhibitors of others some strongly), opiate drugs in particular are heavily effected by it, although many other classes are too, for instance with any opiate bar codeine grapefruit will greatly increase the potency and duration of the drug, with codeine it will reduce the effect of the drug to practically 0. Other foods also can have similar effects, and can cause anything from sudden side effects making the drug intolerable for the patient, or even worse (grapefruit and a strong opiate can lead to dangerous overdose plasma levels of opiate). Thus doctors cannot know everything, they do not take a full dietary history with every prescription even if they did the science of pharmacology does not know all the chemicals or foods that can affect the pharmoknetics of all drugs not to mention the problems of individual biological variance as well. It is perfectly understandable why some people may choose to stop taking a medication prescribed to them where they suffer side effects which are worse than the condition it is intended to treat ("The cure is worse than the disease" to quote a phrase).

    10. Re:uhh by Zugok · · Score: 1

      For instance, grapefruit magnifies the power of a great deal of medicine. It is quite possible for half the dosage with grapefruit to be as good as a full dose without.


      While yes, as you as and as nephew post (above) explains, grapefruit and its juice potentiates the effects of some medicines, what you propose in your second sentence is dangerous. Medicine dosages are quantified, milligrams, one tablet, half a tablet for example and there is an expected result. Grapefruit and its juice, however, is not quite so easy to quantify a serving and expect consistent results for example, size of the grapefruit/serving of juice, what type fo grape fruit, variability in the crop. So while soem people might think that taking grapefruit could reduce their dosage of medicine, which they think is a good thing, the results can be variable and disastrous.
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  3. Why uBox? by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why uBox? They should call it the iBox and everybody would buy one.

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    1. Re:Why uBox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cos "u" is the new "i" baby

  4. Good by mastershake_phd · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Maybe this will stop certain people I know from taking others unused antibiotics when they get a cold. Much easier than unsuccessfully trying to explain the difference between viruses and bacteria.

    1. Re:Good by fbjon · · Score: 1

      Easier: return unused antibiotics to the pharmacy. And also, unused antibiotics should be an exception. Either you take all the medicine as prescribed, or you have a problem with the medicine, and the doctor says you can stop. Patients don't get to decide when they've recovered, especially with antibiotics.

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    2. Re:Good by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, they stop when they feel better. If there was ever a need for a public information campaign this is it.

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  5. Costs ? by Romwell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "...costs the healthcare system $100 billion per year and $60 billion to the pharmaceutical industry"
    Did they want to say brings ?

    1. Re:Costs ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the case of the healthcare system no (this is money it spends out of a theoretically fixed budget), but in the case of the pharmaceutical industry yes (this is extra money we give them).

    2. Re:Costs ? by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Did they want to say brings ?

      No, they mean costs. Did you really think that pharmaceutical companies could make profit off healing and saving people? Of course not, but they do it anyways, because if they weren't there, then who would make all these medicines for us? That's right, they do it all because they care about us and they want us to be alive and well, even if it's going to cost them hundreds of billion dollars every year.

      Think about it next time you consider buying Pfizer stock.

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    3. Re:Costs ? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wouldn't be surprised if this was RIAA-style math. What it possibly means is that the pharmaceutical industry would make an additional $60B a year if people took all the pills they're supposed to. But since people forget to take some of them, pharma considers it "lost revenue".

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    4. Re:Costs ? by Captain+Vittles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Keep in mind that the pharmaceutical industry isn't just the rich guys in suits that head those massive companies which are raking in obscene amounts of money. There are plenty of smaller companies as well, cranking out the everyday drugs that people take for granted and making very little money in the process.

      The cost being talked about could largely be opportunity cost, as the people who aren't taking their doses of well-established, off-patent, one-dollar-per-dose medications will many times need a new prescription, once the ailment that wasn't cured comes roaring back. Multiply that by many of these types of drugs and many people abusing them, and you see that manufacturers are forced to put out bigger orders of these low margin items. If people would just take their meds properly, then the resources opened up can be put towards products that might just turn a profit, and allow the business to grow instead of just survive.

    5. Re:Costs ? by damncrackmonkey · · Score: 1

      It's the equivalent of the RIAA saying that piracy increases visits to movie theaters and record stores. Since TFA doesn't mention a thing about lost money for big-pharma, I'm not really sure why it makes up such a big part of the summary.

  6. Unicorns by milsoRgen · · Score: 1

    Or what if you take the pill out intending to take it, but due to arthritis (or the shakes) you drop it, and then due to dementia you forgot what you were doing to begin with... Box wouldn't know what became of the pill.

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  7. 100 billion? Really? Just take your meds. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1
    I wonder if they used the logic that 10% of hospital visits = 10% of the healthcare industry, because wouldn't that be neglecting the nature of the visits? I would assume that the 10% of hospital visits resulting from forgetting to take pills would have a greater chance of being taken care of fairly easily... Like, "ok here are your meds and a cup of water". Sure, some problems will be more serious, but still.

    In response to:

    it is estimated that this accounts for 10% of all hospital visits and costs the healthcare system $100 billion per year and $60 billion to the pharmaceutical industry
    1. Re:100 billion? Really? Just take your meds. by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Usually not, and in any case it can be a long time before anybody realises what the problem actually is, by which time damage may have been done. Also over medicating, or taking pills at the wrong frequency is also a major problem that this thing is trying to address.

      Having said that, I don't think a hi-tech solution like this is a necessary answer for most people. We'd go a long way towards preventing these problems simply by printing readable labels on med boxes that are easily distinguishable for people with visual impairments or slight memory problems.

    2. Re:100 billion? Really? Just take your meds. by gmack · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they used the logic that 10% of hospital visits = 10% of the healthcare industry, because wouldn't that be neglecting the nature of the visits? I would assume that the 10% of hospital visits resulting from forgetting to take pills would have a greater chance of being taken care of fairly easily... Like, "ok here are your meds and a cup of water". Sure, some problems will be more serious, but still.

      You can't be serious. many medications have dire consequences if missed.

      Forgot your heart meds? Heart attack. If that doesn't kill you they will spend inordinate amounts of time treating the problem and it's permanent affects on your body

      Daily Asthma meds require a certain amount to be in the bloodstream to work so if you forget them you end up with an attack that just doesn't go away no matter how much ventolin you take

      Insulin prevents long term damage to the body that an abnormal blood sugar level causes

      I can go on but I think I've made my point. Many problems are much less life threatening (and cheaper to deal with) if properly medicated.

    3. Re:100 billion? Really? Just take your meds. by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 1

      I am not questioning that taking your meds is important. There are many obvious cases where it would result in a fatality. I am questioning the math. As it is so often the case, these companies love to make problems sound bigger than they are and inflate their financial projections.

      Also, they make it sound like they are solving a 10 billion dollar problem, but even assuming this figure is correct, their product does not solve 100% of the problem. If they are trying to profit, they will also be billing the same people, and contributing to the cost, unless they can prove that their product really works.

      An example of a better, yet simpler solution off the top of my head would be automated phone calls or pages. The hospital or doctor can have an automated reminder machine that would call their patients when it is time to take their meds. This would work even with memory challenged patients, and would require zero learning.

  8. I'd love something that works by LearnToSpell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My grandmother is going into assisted living this week, and up until now, I've had to nag her twice a day to take her pills. They'll administer her meds, but it's $21/day.

    1. Re:I'd love something that works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      21$ is amazingly cheap.

    2. Re:I'd love something that works by AlwaysOnVacation · · Score: 1

      $21/day to administer her pills! WOW! There wouldn't be much left to pay for pills at that rate. There's a couple of options that work very well and won't break the bank!... if she's able to use them. Does she have a phone in her room? There's an online phone reminder service - OnCellRx - where you can set it up to call her at the right time once a day every day - FREE! If she needs more calls, you can set up 3 calls a day to remind her to take her pills for only $20/MONTH! If she could see and/or hear a pager, those reminders are free, too. You'd only have to get a alphanumeric pager and pay for the monthly pager service. About $10/month. Is she able to respond to a PDA? Those make very effective pill reminders. The least expensive Palm Z22 is only $80-100 at Palm.com - online store or Factory Outlet and there's a $23 software program called OnTimeRx that is amazing! Take a look at ontimerx.com I use it on a Palm smartphone all the time and would be lost without it. Hope this helps. S.

  9. Soon.. by rdradar · · Score: 1

    Soon we have machines bitching about our eating, drinking, oversleeping, computing.. And those machines are controlled by corporations and run "without costs" with advertising. Advertising that MAKES you go out and buy. Oh I cant wait!

    1. Re:Soon.. by Shados · · Score: 1

      Whats funny is how by the time they're teens, most people start bitching and whining that they don't need any kind of supervision, their parents are too much, they're smart enough to take care of themselves...yet most people really don't. They need machines to be their parents.

      Oh the irony.

  10. Probably Third-World Only by lobiusmoop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can imagine this will only be made available to third-world patients. The liability lawsuits arising out of things like battery failure on the unit in the medical/legal minefield of the USA don't bear thinking about.

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    1. Re:Probably Third-World Only by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      What do you need a smart dispenser for when you lack the meds you need to fill it with?

    2. Re:Probably Third-World Only by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh ... the Third World gets plenty of pills. Of course, not all of them work, and the ones that do maybe haven't been tested as thoroughly as one might like. Heck, some might qualify as downright experimental. So they get plenty of pills. The thing is, what those people really need is a box to remind them not take them.

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  11. I feel bad saying it by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But there's times when I think some people just don't deserve the benefits of modern healthcare. It's just amazing how common a situation it is for people to have a deadly illness and simply stop taking their medication. It's pretty rare for them to even know the actual name of the drug, or anything about how it works. I almost died when I was just a kid, and even at that age I learned the hell out of the drugs I was on. And I certainly learned to check my watch, or at least just set an alarm. I wouldn't have cut myself any slack for not doing so at 11, and I wouldn't for any adult not suffering from a mental disorder.

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    1. Re:I feel bad saying it by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The story is about initial deployment in very poor areas of India. They probably aren't missing doses because they are having so much fun playing Wii. They just may have things going on that seem larger than a pill in the context of their lives.

      And even if we stipulate that certain people don't "deserve" treatment, does that mean that the rest of us deserve the antibiotic-resistant strains of TB that result from people missing their doses?

      -Peter

    2. Re:I feel bad saying it by quanticle · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't for any adult not suffering from a mental disorder.

      That's one of the populations that researchers are trying to help with this device. There are a large number of elderly out there who are suffering from mild to moderate dementia and neurological problems. Current practice is to check up on them on a frequent basis and remind them verbally to take their medications. An automated reminder system would help this system considerably.

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    3. Re:I feel bad saying it by wwahammy · · Score: 1

      Oh don't worry, 47 million people in the US already know they don't deserve modern healthcare.

    4. Re:I feel bad saying it by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      And even if we stipulate that certain people don't "deserve" treatment, does that mean that the rest of us deserve the antibiotic-resistant strains of TB that result from people missing their doses?

      so the only way to really measure compliance here is to do a urine check every few days while on the 'scrip - and assign people ratings based on their historical compliance and base treatment in the future on stats ... you willing to go there?

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    5. Re:I feel bad saying it by maokh · · Score: 1
      I think everybody on this planet deserves the benefits of modern healthcare, even if they forget dosages from time to time. Are pills your life? Most commonly not. Are some people prone to forgetting random tasks such as a 3 second event each day? Yes, myself included. I haven't taken a prescription medication in over 10 years, but just recently, I have had to take one for the last several months. I can't tell you how many times ive dumped out that pill bottle and correlated the current date, number of pills, with the date of the prescription to determine: a) if taking another pill equals a double dose b) if i even took a dose that day

      I agree, one of those monday, tuesday, wednesday, etc. boxes grandma had might do the trick. Or perhaps i should pop it into my iphone calendar on a daily recurrence.

      What people really need is pill management. They need to be reminded of this. Most want to take their pills (unless they are mentally ill, an entirely different issue), and feel bad when they miss them. Like many other people out there, I want to get better. I need something to manage that.

    6. Re:I feel bad saying it by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      No.

      You're sort of taking me out of context there. The overall point of my post wasn't, "We should make people comply for the greater good." It was, "Not everyone has the same priorities and world-view you do. Helping them comply benefits everyone."

      The GP seemed to be heading toward the idea of withholding treatment. I was trying to suggest that this device takes the more charitable route of helping these people (who "don't deserve" treatment in his estimation) succeed in complying. Which serves both the individual and the greater good. By no means did I mean to suggest they should be forced to comply with treatment, and I was trying to head off the notion of withholding treatment.

      -Peter

    7. Re:I feel bad saying it by Elbow+Macaroni · · Score: 1

      Yeah it's kinda difficult when you are in agony to remember "hey did i take my pill 4 hours ago or was it 2 hours ago?" Maybe the death of Heath Ledger is making some of the pharmaceutical companies wake up and smell the rotting corpses. God knows they have enough damn money to do something simple like this for their patients. It's about damn time some moron came up with something to help people with this f******* crap!

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  12. Preventing double-dosing by erick99 · · Score: 1

    To alert the patient that it's time to take the medicine, the box flashes its lights and sounds a buzzer. When the compartment is opened, the uBox records the exact time and prevents double-dosing by refusing to open again until the next treatment is due.

    I like that it can prevent double-dosing. Not only do some forgetful folks miss a dose, they sometimes take that dose multiple times because they believe, each time, that this is there first dose.

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  13. And this is better how? by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is this different then those 25 cent plastic pill boxes that have compartments for all your drugs, all nicely labeled and sorted for each day? They easily show you what you need to take, and if you missed anything. No batteries either!

    If we cant make it an 'i-something or other' and give it an IP address its of no value? Sure, technology has its place, but sometimes just common sense is all that is needed. When a hammer is all you need, bring a hammer, don't re-invent it just for the sake of inventing.

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    1. Re:And this is better how? by SashaMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You obviously have never seen a person of diminished capacity who's on a lot of meds struggle with taking their medications. I just visited my 91 y/o grandmother who takes about 10 pills a day from 5 different medications. She's still with it (doesn't need assisted living yet), but can be forgetful. There are a couple of problems with the "25 cent plastic pill boxes" you describe that she currently uses:

      1. First, SHE is the one that has to fill them, and with so many different meds it's easy for her to make a mistake. In fact it was sort of proof to me that the health care system really isn't interested in making people healthy in that neither her doctor nor pharmacist set up a plan to ensure med compliance. I couldn't see why her pharmacist couldn't just dole out the proper dosages in separate boxes ahead of time.
      2. More importantly, the device described in the article could be capable of notifying someone if my grandmother didn't take her meds. That would be a big benefit to my family and is something a simple pill box could never do.

    2. Re:And this is better how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      How is this different then those 25 cent plastic pill boxes that have compartments for all your drugs, all nicely labeled and sorted for each day? They easily show you what you need to take, and if you missed anything.

      My Mom has Alzheimer's. The first symptom for her was inability to remember what day of the week it is. So a passive pillbox by itself doesn't help.

      I had thought of trying to build something like this myself, but I'm not that talented. I think it's a good idea.

    3. Re:And this is better how? by physicsphairy · · Score: 1

      For one thing, because giving someone one of those in absolutely no way means that they will actually use it. For another, it doesn't discourage the, "If one is good, three must be three times better!" mentality.

      There are probably a zillion different solutions if you personally want to make certain you take pills when you should in the proper quantity.

      But this is meant less to be an electronic counterpart to a pillbox, and more an electronic counterpart to a conscientious mother.

    4. Re:And this is better how? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      she sounds like she has reached the stage of liability anyway.

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    5. Re:And this is better how? by Geste · · Score: 1

      My Dad, age 87, who can no longer read his pill bottles, would still kick your punk ass.

      Somebody please mod this jerk down.

    6. Re:And this is better how? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Did i comment on age alone? No. I commented on the 'shape' she was in, which could be at any age.

      *IF* your dad is still capable of "kicking my punk ass" ( which i honestly doubt, since you would be incapable as well. You know, its its nice to be loyal to family, it can also be misplaced ) then he wouldnt be considered a liability would he?

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    7. Re:And this is better how? by MagicDude · · Score: 1

      It is possible to get meds in individual packaging. Some pharmacies will sell medicitaions in blister packaging, so the meds for the morning, afternoon, and evening are in little bubbles that you just burst. If you look around you should find it, more likely in local pharmicies rather than the national chains.

    8. Re:And this is better how? by Geste · · Score: 1

      Go back to reading Atlas Shrugged.

    9. Re:And this is better how? by Silver+Gryphon · · Score: 1

      How about if a perfectly capable teenager has a serious health problem and has to track 31 pills per day on a schedule that's measured in 10-30 minute increments because of interactions? My brother had that situation a few years ago. He had one of those monthly notebook-sized things just to separate them out in sequence. Something like this would have made his daily regimen more portable.

      Sure, a hammer is a great tool when a hammer is needed. Likewise, the sun alone wakes a lot of people up every morning. Others choose to use an alarm clock. I see a market for the smart pill box.

  14. Already exists by CrystalFalcon · · Score: 5, Informative

    How is this better than the already-in-trials Cypak box, which also reminds the patient to take the pills, registers the time/date taken per pill, transfers results over RFID to doctors, etc, has the added advantage of looking exactly like an ordinary pharma blister pack?

    1. Re:Already exists by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1
      Well, the MIT one is cooler because it beeps and squeaks. It also has a reminder function (something any PDA, computer, wristwatch, kitchen timer can do).

      If this is all they're doing at MIT these days all I can say is that in my days....

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    2. Re:Already exists by hedleyroos · · Score: 1

      This one is already in use in South Africa. It also does the usual recording, notifications etc. The backend (not the website!) runs on Zope.

    3. Re:Already exists by OSUBeav · · Score: 1

      Used to work in a medical tech company and my mother in law came up with the same idea. I did a patent search and found a pretty damning one that someone was sitting on. Didn't go farther than that.

      My Grandmother used to be quite forgetful and would multi-dose if she and others weren't careful about how her medication was arranged.

  15. Doubtful by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    There will be plentiful disclaimers that the manufacturer can point to in those cases. Take a look at the legal disclaimers on average household appliances. I can imaging they'll be even more amusing for medical devices.

    If your logic held true, we wouldn't have electronic blood sugar meters either.

  16. Doesn't Solve The Other Problem by humphrm · · Score: 1

    Sometimes people don't take their pills because they either (A) don't have time, or forget to refill them at the pharmacy, and/or (B) can't afford them.

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    1. Re:Doesn't Solve The Other Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to set out the pills my sister needed to take during her chemo and radiation. There were a dozen or so. Some were deadly if you took them too often, and others if you missed them the pain would be excruciating while your body caught up. About 5 had morphine in them. How she lived through that is beyond me.

  17. Memory is not the problem. by Adambomb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with this is not an issue of people needing to be reminded of the doses they've taken, or should take. The biggest issue I see is WILLFUL non-compliance with a doctors advice. Now granted, doctors are only human as well so they can make mistakes but the number of people I hear tell me that "oh well i have a pill for this, but i do not take it" because they think they know more than the doctor (which sadly is SOMETIMES the case when one looks at it in a 'knows more about this situation' issue).

    This mentality is a lot more prevalent than I would have thought prior to working in travel medical insurances. The number of people who would get angry because we had to count them as treating a condition because they had a specific prescription on their history but they refused to take it was staggering. Somehow, it then becomes our fault that they have an exclusion because they were not complying with the prescribed treatment.

    To get Dickens on it: Given that non-compliance is generating these costs, i'm guessing its also generating casualties, which means the tendancy will eventually be minimized across the gene pool.

    Wish that helped my generations health costs though.

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    1. Re:Memory is not the problem. by Adambomb · · Score: 1

      Son of a...comment writing by parts between cases all afternoon makes for my original post.

      My apologies to the grammarstapo.

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  18. Great, too bad it's illegal by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Based on my understanding of US law, carying a controlled substance (anything that requires a prescription) in anything other that the official bottle it came in is a federal crime. All such daily and weekly pillboxes are illegal. My father was stopped and threatened with arrest when one such item was disovered, he had to rummage through his cary on luggage to find enough pill bottles with appropriate names and descriptions such that they let him through (though they noted that just having them out of the appropriate container was illegal). How do such pill boxes deal with the legal issues? If you take one on a trip and don't bring the bottle with the appropriate documentation, should you be subject to arrest?

    1. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Icarus1919 · · Score: 1

      The smart pillbox would most likely be dispensed by the pharmacy, thus rendering it the official bottle. This would be a non-issue.

    2. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Randall311 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is only partially correct. It's only illegal if you do not have the original prescription information from the bottles in your position. So yes, if your father didn't have his scripts with him then he would have been in trouble, otherwise the security guards that questioned him were on their typical power trip.

    3. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Based on my understanding of US law, carying a controlled substance (anything that requires a prescription) in anything other that the official bottle it came in is a federal crime. WHAT!? Damn!
      How come you people don't break out in derisive laughter when you hear your country described as the "land of the free"?
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    4. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

      If I was threatened with arrest just for carrying my pills in a daily or weekley pillbox, I would have accused the officer of having a small pecker, told him to blow his charge out his ass, ask him if he really thought his overzealous charge would actually stand up in court, and to arrest me. The resulting lawsuit against him and the department would more than pay for a lifetime of medication, and the officer may even lose his job (the issue would definitely come up in his next performance review).

      Every police officer/Sherriff's Deputy I know has much more common sense than make such a stupid accusation. They would definitely be able to understand that it is more prudent (and reasonable) to take the chance that it is just someone wanting to take their meds at the right time, than to bust someone for having pills out of their original container. Also, they should be able to take into acount the situation that the person was found with the pills. Was it a 15 year old with a box full of OxyContin, or an older fellow with a weekly box full of miscellaneous pills in his luggage? Or was it a 30-year old man in good shape, no injuries, with a bottle of Morphine? Which is more suspicious?

      Any Judge would understand that having a daily/weekly pillbox to make sure you took the right meds at the right time was more important (but illegal) than carrying them in a bunch of bottles (not illegal) Although what you did was *technically* illegal, the charge would/should be dismissed on the grounds that it violated your rights and was a threat to your health/well-being. What's more serious: Going to the hospital for forgetting to take medications, or not having them in the original bottles?

      I know we like to ridicule judges for making outrageously stupid rulings (Here in the U.S.A. it happens all to much), but all but the most incompetent Judges and District Attorneys would dismiss/decline the case/charge. And even if you did lose, it would be overturned almost immediately.

      What the officer should have done is check his I.D., checked him for warrants and related priors, and if no warrants or no related priors came up, let him go without further question.

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    5. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by canajin56 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In Florida a man was given the minimum sentence of 25 years for having 56 viccodin, of the 80 he was prescribed, in a valid bottle. Because, in Florida at least, any more than 50 is automatic guilt in drug trafficking. Having a valid prescription is not an exception, and the defense attorney was not permitted to even mention his valid prescription to the jury. The judge ruled that since the law does not mention prescriptions, that knowledge would be distracting and irrelevant. As a convicted drug trafficker, his two condos, car, and boat were all seized by the state and sold. Since they were auctioned for pennies on the dime, he still owes them a big chunk of the $500,000 minimum fine for drug trafficking.

      I think that's how House should end. He's at a conference in Florida. He gets busted with a bottle full of pills, in the proper prescription bottle. Doesn't matter. He had more than 50, he's guilty of drug trafficking. 25 years in prison. All his possessions are sold. According to their records he paid large amounts of money to Dr. Wilson, and received large amounts in turn. "But he was just paying me back, he borrows money all the time". Likely story Dr. Wilson, 10 years for money laundering, all your possessions seized too. The end. No opportunity for appeal, the law is clear.

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    6. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by ultranova · · Score: 1

      How come you people don't break out in derisive laughter when you hear your country described as the "land of the free"?

      Most such expressions don't happen near Free Speech Zones, so laughing at them would be illegal.

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    7. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by skepticfromgo · · Score: 1

      Is this in Florida only? No surprise, either way. Welcome to Russia, no offense to that "Democratic" State. Hard to laugh at this stuff.

    8. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by fireylord · · Score: 1

      have you got a source for this information? care to cite your source? because unless there was something else illegal that he was doing that they could not nail him for, i cannot see the police wanting to bring this to trial

    9. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Zugok · · Score: 1

      I am a pharmacist in New Zealand. It is a criminal offence to carry prescription medicines without appropriate labelling. At a bare minimum, labelling contains the folling piece of information:
      quantity of dispensed medicine
      name of the medicine
      strength of medicine
      instructions: how to take it, how many to take and how frequently
      name of the patient

      Those pill organisers you can purchase really are not adequate and they encourage patients to redispense medicines which is a bad thing because there is no quality control. Many of these product do not make any provision for labelling either. They do, however give patients a degree of independance and control over their medicine.

      Blister packs from the pharmacy are nasty things to fill but they meet the legal container and labelling requirements.

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    10. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are correct on one point, the jury was not instructed that it is legal to possess that amount with a valid prescription. Some other facts that make this a little more complicated than what you presented:

      O'Hara had been prescribed 40 Vicodin, the brand name for hydrocodone, in December 2003 and 40 more in May 2004.

      Tampa airport police arrested O'Hara in August 2004. He drew their notice after he circled the departure area three times and then abandoned his bread truck in a no-parking zone.

      Inside the truck, police found partially smoked marijuana cigarettes and unmarked pill bottles. One bottle contained 58 hydrocodone pills...

      In the 1980s, he served two short stints in Florida prisons for trafficking in cocaine, possessing a hallucinogen and tampering with a prosecution witness.

      Also, it was reported that he had sold the property to pay for appeal and the proceeds were seized to pay the fines.

      The final note is that his conviction was overturned by appeals court and he was released. He was sentenced to time served when he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of posession rather than face a new trial.

    11. Re:Great, too bad it's illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The courts have ruled that a mistake was made...

      To summarize, section 499.03 and section 893.13 allow a person to legally possess either a legend drug or a controlled substance when the drug was obtained pursuant to a valid prescription. These statutes apply even [*22] when a person possesses a trafficking amount of hydrocodone. O'Hara presented evidence that the hydrocodone tablets he possessed had been prescribed by physicians and obtained from a pharmacy. Having presented evidence of his defense at trial, he was entitled to have the defense presented to the jury in an instruction. See Thomas v. State, 787 So. 2d 27, 29 (Fla. 2d DCA 2001). Therefore, the trial court erred when it denied O'Hara's request for a jury instruction that it was not illegal to possess hydrocodone if it had been prescribed. Accordingly, we reverse O'Hara's conviction and remand for a new trial. --http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net/caselaw/2007/07/18/ohara-v-state/

      Also, it should be noted that the fellow did have some weed in his bread truck as well. And the truck was illegaly parked and unattended.

      So the lesson is not that you should not have your legally prescribed pills with you, but instead don't drive around town in a bread truck with a month (two months?) of the stuff next to your pot. And if you do, please learn how to park.
  19. Yet another alarm clock? by polemon · · Score: 1

    Great idea, really. But I forget to take my PDA with me VERY often, and that device is significantly handier, that that robotic pill box; at least, from what I can tell by viewing the images (http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/itw-india-enlarged.jpg). I don't know how exactly the device works, but it hast to have some sort of battery in it, what happens, when that battery drains? I forget to recharge my PDA about as often as I forget to take it with me... This box may be of great use in the well developed world, where people are used to electronic medical devices, like electronic blood sugar testers, for instance. What if people treat the device like I treat my alarm clock sometimes: Throw it at a wall when I can't find the snooze button. And I guess the box behaves much like an alarm clock...

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  20. It wont stop you from throwing the tab away by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

    Take pill. Throw in trash. Box fooled.

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  21. A Smart box by mangu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you are being treated for Parkinson's disease, it will give you another pill. If you are being treated for Alzheimer's, it will beep to remind you.

  22. Yes, memory is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing helps if people refuse to take their pills but for many it's a very real problem to remember to take them. I suffer from epilepsy and must take pills twice a day and despite having done that for over 10 years, I still sometimes forget to take them on time. I have a box that I fill weekly and it has slots morning/evening for every day of the week so I can then check it if I get unsure whether I've remembered to take my pills as I should. I also have my cell phone set to alert me whenever it's time but despite those measures I sometimes have difficulties. It happens quite easily if I'm in a hurry in the morning - e.g. if the pill alarm goes off when I'm in the shower and thus can't take them precisely when it sounds. And in the evenings it has happened simply because I've turned off the alarm when the phone has rang and then been interrupted by something when I was on my way to take the pills from the box. Now, I don't think that this is anything revolutionary but simply having the alarm and the pills in the same location, would be an improvement.

    Another issue is that it's a bit troublesome to carry along such a box and thus I have a matchbox-sized one with only one day of pills that I carry with me everywhere and keep the big one at home - an ideal solution would let me check remotely whether I've taken the pills from it or not (some bluetooth thingy in the box that would let me login remotely to my home server and check it that way, or something....). It is an awful feeling when you're unsure whether you've taken the pills and contemplate whether you should go home and check or stay and assume that you have taken them. It may sound like a trivial problem but just imagine if you had to always carry around a ~5x3x1 box with pills just to be able to confirm that you've taken them. And unfortunately it is also true that people react strangely if they seem someone taking or having pills with them. It shouldn't be any of anybody else's business but in practice, I must always visit the bathroom or something similar if I'm not at home at 8 am and 8 pm.

    1. Re:Yes, memory is the problem by Adambomb · · Score: 1

      My point wasn't that the willful non-compliance is the only issue, simply that i believe it makes up a much larger chunk of the total number of incidents due to non-compliance than the legitimate issues with memory.

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  23. A technological solution to a behavioral problem? by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oh yeah, that's not doomed to failure!

    The batteries will never run out, the thing will never be badly programmed, the patient will never ignore it, nor forget it, and the workers checking up on them will always be diligent and honest. That's why it's gonna work!

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  24. Can't afford the pills by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if we only had national health care so I could afford the pills...

  25. Fantastic device will be misused by syousef · · Score: 1

    I fear that the way health care operates, this will be used to punish patients who have forgotten to take their pills by refusing them cover for further medication.

    "I'm sorry Mr Jones but we can't supply you with more blood pressure medication. It says right here you missed a dose 3 months ago. Now what's the point of giving it to you if you won't take it? Next!"

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  26. What about the cost of adherence? by smchris · · Score: 1

    'medication non-adherence.' In the US alone, it is estimated that this accounts for 10% of all hospital visits and costs the healthcare system $100 billion per year and $60 billion to the pharmaceutical industry.

    I assume the latter is not the least concern.

    Some quack must have been watching TV and recently put my mother on Vytorin. Pick your favorite Google result on how worthless that drug is.

  27. Already been done by whois_drek · · Score: 1

    Already been done: http://compumed.com/ Comes with strobe lights for deaf people, audio alerts for blind people, I think it can even phone an emergency contact if the medicine isn't taken--very well thought out. And it's been around for several years.

  28. militarised medicalism by squibshaw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    when did the medical community begin using military terminology like "medicinal non-compliance?"

    1. Re:militarised medicalism by BC_Man · · Score: 1

      About the time they started convincing people that people die of Aids, Cancer, Heart Disease, etc, etc. Most people die of bad nutrition and from the use of these medications themselves. I wonder how many people read the warning sheet that actually comes with the medications ? Why are many people abandoning the medical system and doctors, and diagnosing themselves ? This is not dangerous ... it might just save your life.

    2. Re:militarised medicalism by dwye · · Score: 1

      Probably at the beginning of scientific medicine, treating all the casulties during the Napoleonic Wars.

  29. Other uses... by noidentity · · Score: 1

    I've always thought it would be cool to have a candy box that would limit consumption. How big of a "pill" can this thing handle? And is it hard to break open if one is desperate for some chocolate?

  30. I'd use this. by DdJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd use this. I have ADD, and one of my problems is paying enough attention to take the meds at the right time. Years ago I actually wrote software for the Apple Newton to help me solve that problem. (Huh, I wonder how hard it'll be to port it to the iPhone? Dev kit comes out soon, right?)

    Anyhow. Yeah. I'd actually use this.

    1. Re:I'd use this. by tashammer · · Score: 1

      i have to take 17 pills a day so the LITTLE UBox wouldn't hold enough. Maybe a bucket with compartments and a clockwork mechanism would be better. Certainly the notion of a cute little vest pocket would not do the job.

  31. Sometimes, it's not about you by R3doy · · Score: 1

    This box could be a great new product, but could be even bigger overseas. Think a place like, oh, Africa. Few people have clocks, and not many can tell time in the remote regions. An automatic dispensing system could potentially revolutionize health care. This, of course, depends on people actually caring about Africa, not just listening to Bono spout off about erasing debt.

  32. Missing a tag by ZeroSerenity · · Score: 1

    liesdamnedliesandstatistics $160 billion because people don't take their pills? I doubt that sounds right.

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  33. Sorry - No dice by nanoakron · · Score: 1

    Intelligent pillboxes are not a new phenomenon, and this will not be the final say on the matter - I should know, I started a company to try to produce one for the UK market.

    The patent landscape is littered with numerous attempts to solve the problem of patient compliance with self-administered, even back to the 1960s. They all rely on a similar solution to this one - an intelligent alarm, an internal counter, and some form of interface for either the physician or the patient.

    The problems my product was trying to address were these - noone wants to get their packs of medications and then dispense them into some special second device which counts them back out to the patient; and no pharmacist or drug company wants to issue a new pill box for each prescription.

    Once these issues are solved, this idea may fly - but I don't think the MIT team are offering anything the marketplace hasn't seen before.

  34. THX-1138 is here! by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Old folks will recall that the plot of THX-1138 revolved around Criminal Drug Evasion.

    There have been proposals for criminal control outside prisons through the use of mood altering drugs. Fun shit like Thorazine that reduces your atention span to less than the guy in Memento, so basically you can't get in to mischief because you'll get completely bored an move on before any harm happens.

    The sick part of these proposals were to use RFID labeled pills, so that a relative simple compliance monitoring device could determine if the pill was inside you versus just inside your pocket or in the trash can.

    In other words THX-1138. Busted for drug evasion.

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  35. Lies, Damned Lies, and Doctors by BC_Man · · Score: 1

    There are natural cures for Aids, Cancer, Heart Disease that save life's. This is no secret, but those natural cures won't make Big Pharma huge profits. I'm afraid this is profit above human life .. wake up folks. http://naturalnews.com/

  36. Re:And How Does The Pillbox Know... Wrong pills. by Herschel+Cohen · · Score: 1

    ... is any good way to encourage people to finish their antibiotic prescription once they are feeling better. If it wasn't for the development of resistant virusesis any good way to encourage people to finish their antibiotic prescription once they are feeling better. If it wasn't for the development of resistant viruses ... You are a bit confused, it would be better to skip the regime entirely, since antibiotics attack bacteria and are ineffective against viruses. What I think you meant, was that a bacterial infection is unusually comprised of differing populations. Those killed off by a partial dose leaves only the most resistant to grow unimpeded by the presence of the usually more rapid growing, but less resistant strains. Partial dosage cultivates those resistant bacteria (not viruses). Meaning these cells have a differing metabolism from their more frail kin.

    Bacteria are living single cell organisms whereas a virus is a particle containing a strand of viral DNA (they are larger) or RNA (much smaller and sometimes more deadly). Furthermore, the viral coat is a set of tight fitting protein molecules that protect the D/RNA payload. In addition, there is a mechanical structure to inject its code into the host cell. A virus exists at the edge of what is usually defined as a living system. It can only reproduce by taking over the machinery of an infected host that is then converted to spew out new copies of viral particles. Those may lie dormant for extended periods or in worse cases suffer irreversible damage that makes the new particles unable to infect new hosts. Others that remain infectious can carry new markers on the outer protein coat making them less liable to the host's immune response. There are still very few good anti-viral pharmaceuticals, and those tend not to have a broad range of effectiveness. Vaccination tends to be the more effective means to combat viral infections, however, in a rapidly mutating virus, albeit a frail one, e.g. HIV, with an insidious infection mode finding an effective vaccine can be a frustrating endeavor. Moreover, that vaccine will likely never meet the level of effectiveness sought in other common diseases.

    Very different creatures. Indeed one is and the other perhaps should not even be characterized as such.
  37. It's communication skills, stupid by kenrick · · Score: 1

    In my experience with patient concordance to prescriptions (NB: 'concordance' is the new PC term for 'compliance'), patients don't take their medicine because of poor communication on the part of the doctor.

    With increasing patient loads, and consequentially reduced consultation times, doctors often don't take enough time to explain why the patient needs to take the medicine, how to take it, and how often. Also, by appearing to be rushed/stressed, doctors don't give patients the opportunity to ask questions about their medication regime.

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  38. not in california by mbeckman · · Score: 1

    Unbelievably, the idi0t California legislators made it illegal to carry rx medications in anything other than the original containers they were dispensed in. They probably were off their meds at the time.

  39. I for one... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    welcome our new, drug dispensing overlords. Although I'm not quite sure what it says about us when the pillboxes are smarter than we are.

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  40. mod parent up by pimpimpim · · Score: 1
    You have a very valid point. Even more valid than you could imagine.

    During my pharmacy study I received the weekly dutch magazine for pharmacists. A professor from my university had a column where he reevaluated case studies from random patients. He studied the pattern of drugs prescribed, knew the illnesses for which these are normally described, found that a lot of drugs were described against side-effects of previous drugs, and in most cases concluded that the 10+ drugs weekly should be replaced by nor more than 2-3 different drugs. If there would be a program that would do this systematically for you, the amount of money saved on both hospital visit because of wrong drug prescriptions and of course the costs of those drugs would be enormous! It would lead to less income for the pharma industries, but the wiser application of their drugs can also lead to less costs in legal and economical damages after their drug has proven dangerous when applied incorrectly. This is a long term win-win situation, but unfortunately no one is interested in doing the short-term investment to actually start such checks.

    By the way, this actually made me understand why there is such an intuitive dislike against the roland piquepaille posts. He just places the standard PR messages from companies/universities as news, without taking a single effort of a critical evaluation of the message. It is certainly not journalism. You might call it blogging, I call it ad-farming. Or maybe he honestly believes that every single PR message he receives/reads is completely true,b as innovative as it claims, and faultless.

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  41. Say what you will... by tguyton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...about this not being a solution for the multitudes of people who simply choose not to take their medications, but that's not the only goal of a system like this. It could go a long way towards helping people keep up with their doses. My mom died at 45 because one of the medications she was on gave her memory issues and one day she overdosed because she simply couldn't remember that she had already taken the drugs. If this helps anyone avoid that fate, it will be successful in my opinion.

  42. I'd love something that nags. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Twice a day? Lucky you, I have to do it all through the day and heaven help me if she doesn't want to take it. $21/day isn't bad since Medicare picks up the tab.

    1. Re:I'd love something that nags. by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      since Medicare picks up the tab.

      You're welcome.

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  43. Major IP/patent violation here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Already done... http://www.remindcap.com/

  44. Re:A technological solution to a behavioral proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The purpose of such a thing is not to make it impossible to miss pills. The purpose is to make it less likely that those who use the system will miss doses or take extra doses. You might as well argue that alarm clocks aren't worth buying because its possible that people either won't set them or will turn them off and go back to sleep. Nevermind that they work most of the time for most people. Lets focus on everyone else.

  45. Remember Sammy Jankis. by denzacar · · Score: 1
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  46. And How Does The Patient Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think a lot of non-complience is for the simple fact that consciously or not they don't want to take all those pills. Problem is is that their medical condition isn't so forgiving. I just got through arguing with my mother about her medicine were she's telling me she took fridays medicine today and I know better. So now she misses today and I have to move it to sunday to keep everything on track. If this device helps out, so much the better?

    1. Re:And How Does The Patient Know... by mi · · Score: 1

      I just got through arguing with my mother about her medicine were she's telling me she took fridays medicine today and I know better. So now she misses today and I have to move it to sunday to keep everything on track. If this device helps out, so much the better?

      I'm afraid, it is not going to help people like your mother. The device will nag, she will take the pill out and put it on the counter to take "later". Then you'll show up and, in order to not anger you, she will either hide the pill(s) or directly throw them out... Every day, unless her condition/pain acutely worsens...

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  47. God forbid this is ever manditory for narcotics... by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    As a patient currently on a combination of oxycontin and percocet for pain following a disabling hip fracture, I've learned from experience that trying to time the dosages at set intervals isn't remotely as effective for pain management as an uneven, targeted dosing based on the degree of pain involved. What this means, is that instead of one dose every 4-6 hours for every single day, I take the degree of pain as a factor in deciding how much of a med I need to take and when in order to get the most optimal results. So, on some days, I may need to take twice as much in a 3 hour period one day and skip a dosage later on when conditions become more favorable. So long as I reach the end of the month without coming up short, the day to day dispersal takes a back seat to the larger time period.

    So far I have had no ill effects in doing so over maintaining a daily schedule and the net effect on my liver and such remains the same in the long term picture. The only difference is that I have control over my own level of suffering vs some hack who doesn't allow any deviation from what the book says.

    A smart dispenser that would prevent access to meds when I need them and report schedule deviations to those who could later cut off my access citing misuse would prove frustrating and extremely disturbing to the point that I'd be too tied to watching a clock instead of ever getting anything done reliably. It'd be even worse later on once my body has become significantly desensitized to the medication.

    With the exception of helping senile old blue-hairs this could only have nasty consequences for those of us just trying to get by the best way we know how.

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  48. Honeywell-HomMed by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    http://www.hommed.com/ makes a uPhone type device already. They have a smart pill dispenser, too, but I'm not sure if they still offer it.

  49. Here's a thought -- outsource it by patio11 · · Score: 1

    If they're essentially charging you $21 to replace a five minute phone call twice a day, why don't you outsource this task? Seriously. Go to GetFriday.com or someplace similar and hire a nice young Indian lady to spend 1/5th of an hour a day (split into two chunks, about $3 a day and you would likely get a quantity discount) calling your grandmother at the appropriate times and saying "Hello, Mrs. LearnToSpell. I'm just calling to check up on you. Is everything going alright? That is great. Have you taken your pills yet? No? Oh, it's no problem. Could you take those right now please?"

    Granted, I wouldn't use something like this to avoid talking to your grandmother, but that isn't the point of the excercise. The point is to take a simple, repetitive task and perform it simply and cheaply. Your nerves, and your grandmother's health, will thank you for it, and you'll save a few hundred dollars a month.

  50. The MD isn't God nor is Pharma by Trailwalker · · Score: 1

    Many modern medications have severe side effects. Many will cause more trouble than the original problem. There have been a number of recent cases where medications were either deadly to the user or ineffective.

    Pharma spends a lot of money to get MDs to prescribe their latest and most profitable, and it works. The patient is on his own when deciding to keep on taking his meds. In this instance, Google is indeed your best friend.

    I am not referring to the use of antibiotics, but to the myriad meds for high blood pressure, gastric distress, elevated fat levels in ones blood, etc.

    And, there is the constant reformulation of effective meds to get patent protection, just to be able to charge a higher price. Prilosac and Nexium are good examples.

  51. Re:God forbid this is ever manditory for narcotics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a huge difference between narcotics vs antibiotics and other types of medication here.

    In the case of antibiotics, it is an example of "what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger", it's just the germs, which get stronger and antibiotic-resistant, if the patient stops taking the antibiotics, when (s)he feels better.

    In the case of narcotics, the rule is mostly, "take what's needed, but to a limit".

    In this case, the pillbox could be programmed to allow you to take what you need, put preventing you from inadvertently taking an overdose.

    Of cause, you could cheat and take as many pills as allowed, and save them for a suicide. But if this is to prevented, then shoelaces and belts are to be removed too...

  52. this is nothing new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A pill dispenser is nothing new... google "medicine reminder"... there are thousands

    So, mention "MIT" and now it's this amazing thing? From my experience with family members with this problem... trips to the hospital happen after a couple years...

    Immediately after having an episode, everything is fine for awhile... but what happens 2 years later when the busy day-to-day of life sets in and you simply forget to bring your pill box to work... or forget to stock the pill box at home, work, or your car. What happens then? Basically, mistakes happen... and a pill box can't prevent that.

    It's a great idea... but not the silver bullet.

    1. Re:this is nothing new? by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      Yeah, anyone with elderly relatives has known about this for ages. They come in a myriad of forms from huge plug-in type units to little battery powered portable ones. (Come on, you can even use the non-electronic day of the week style ones.) It's always interesting to see the amount of hype that surrounds any "new" invention even when it's not new. This is particularly true of Apple and other tech companies. Spin + name dropping = big news I guess.

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  53. This would be trememendous by Foolishwit · · Score: 1

    I spent the past year and a half as a case manager for people with severe mental illness and HIV, and the biggest problem with HIV meds is compliance (psych meds, too, but the results are potentially less lethal w/ the psych meds). Once you go on meds you need to be 90% compliant for them to work reliably. If you go off then you are burned to those meds, those drugs will be ineffective for your treatment as you now have a resistant strain of the virus (In fact, how quickly HIV turns to AIDS is now thought to be correlated with how many different strains of the virus you've been re-infected with).
    The specific population I was working with was African American women, which is a caretaker population (ie, they have people in their lives they need to take care of). We spent a lot of time reminding them that they HAD to make time to take care of themselves every day instead of their children, otherwise they wouldn't be around to take care of themselves. It can be a difficult case to make when their child has had two asthma attacks in one day and they have to go to a clinic or an ER to get them looked at. I believe if you added a regular sensory input (sound and light) it would help ingrain the habit of taking meds, to the point that when someone is running out of the house to get their kid to the ER, they might think "Oh, that darn buzzer is going to go off. I should grab my pill box".
    Its an abstract concept which not everyone is equipped to deal with easily, that there is an invisible thing in your blood that is so lethal that you have to take time out to address it three times a day. Its especially easy to put it to the side when you have friends that tell you not to trust your white doctor, that pharmaceutical companies are getting rich off your illness, and the side effects of incontinence are so bad that you don't want to leave the house. Most of my clients didn't argue with the fact that they should take their medication. They all said they knew they had to, but with all those and other variables, people are pretty well primed to forgive themselves if they forget a dose. So we spent time with them on ways to remember taking your meds (attaching a note to your toothbrush, sticking a note to your front door. I even programmed the calendar on some of my client's cell phones for them). And those strategies helped.
    Most people know they have to take their meds, just like most people know they need to work out, know they need to avoid fatty foods. Behavioral interventions like this aren't a panacea, but they help eliminate one of the very real factors in non-compliance. I know it would have made my job easier.