I have both Mac and Windows at home and I did have them both at work. I have been using a USB mouse for 2 or 3 years. I actually use a Microsoft Laser mouse on my Mac at home! It works 100% no problems.
Hardcore Mac users never believe me when I tell them it will work. I bought one in Japan for 20.00 US. The Apple Mouse will probably be like 80.00 but it will have a little animate mouse running around inside it.
ZTG
This rocks. I created my own categories with keywords and its very sweet. Sorry maybe it is just me but I have to have a way to reduce the amount of info I go through everyday. Instead of complaining or asking why---Good Job Google
It is strange that the Harvard Community is not really speaking out. Where is the Law School on this? or The MedicalSchool? The people at Harvard who have been developing digital rights management and copyright ideas to make sharing information legal and easier?
The problem is that one is considering the intent here. With ENRON the intent was to make money. It was calculated and planned over a long period of time. You cannot compare a person who would allow the city of Los Angeles to have rolling-black-outs to someone who wanted to know if a URL trick might work.
These people didn't even know if it would work it was curiousity. How many people would even believe what they were seeing? Until I get a formal letter of acceptance or rejection I would not accept anything I saw on a website. What if the rejection letter is the default format until someone is accepted?
AND this was not a HACK as many have stated. It was not premeditated or done out of malice. I think that it is reasonable for a person to look at their own information. Now I agree that the students could have made an effort to alert the school to the problem, but the fact is their intent was not malicious.
Finally, making a sweeping no-tolerance decision is never a good idea. The Harvard Community is full of people leading the way in LAW, ETHICS, and Copyright standards. I think the community should have a say and not just a small group of administrators who are obviously angry at the incompetence of the software and services they have bought.
Really?
I drag and drop to the Ipod often with OSX and I have done it in XP too. Sometimes I dont like ITUNES because of the way it stores the MUSIC on OSX so-- I have a seperate Music folder that ITUNES can access, but I also often just manually browse it and drop files into the ipod.
And on windows I can see all the hidden files.
I have friends storing info on Ipods as well. I think Apple is Just slowly opening it up. Once they get a bigger market share, I believe they will start allowing people to write software and other apps that use the IPOD differently.
You can store text files and calendar files on it now as well as the address book from OSX. It has alot of uses IMHO.
Maybe everyone should move there vairous servers and accounts to some non-extradition country. Then pay some one in that country to list themselves as the owner and registrant.
We could start a whole new type of export business.
There is a book about the history of Apple Computer --Apple: The Inside Story of Intrigue, Egomania, and Business Blunders.
It explains in detail that the NEWTON was not just ahead of its time, it was riddled with technical problems, poorly planned, and staffed with people working with no objective.
The CUBE -- horribly over priced and under powered. Not to mention the first six months of production were riddled cases busting from over heating.
Let's not forget the times Apple could have taken the market but shafted developers in order to maintain strick OS and Hardware Control. They had a few shots at the Microsoft Kingdom, but they passed them up.
Now, we have the mini. It is cool and marketed well. Although without a Monitor Factored into the price, it makes it difficult to bundle and sell to the normal person.
Apple displays are amazing, and expensive. You can convert the Mini`s monitor output to take a standard display, but now your telling someone they have to buy a computer without a monitor and add a piece of hardware to it at home to get their old monitor to work. AND you have to mention that a loss of quality from that instalation will result.
Or you can sell them a 300-500 dollar monitor thus asking them to pay 800-1000 for a new Mac. A product they may not be familiar with.
Computer retailers are gonna have to do alot of work to package this to normal people.
I have a MAC at home, I love it. I use a 2 button mouse with it, it was a 30.00 investment. I also have an XP and a Turbo Linux Machine. But my Girl Friend, she is just a normal user. She doesnt want to know jack about anything. She wants a computer that includes a monitor. She will spend 700-800 on a PC that comes ready to fly with everything she needs. No learning curve to boot. She thinks the Mini is cute, but she did not even consider it for a purchase.
BUT --
I want to be wrong! Let the MINI raise Apple UP and let's hope it does not come with any weird technical issues in the next 6 months.
What always happens is people go public, get massive cash, and then try and be all they can be. I want Google to work on Browsing and Data Mining. I want them to possibly develop resources to imporve the way people like me, who work in smaller environments and benefit from their years of special research in data and management.
I don't want them going head-to-head with Linux, Windows, OS X, etc. If they have a whole new standard, I doubt I would change my life to adopt it. If they base it on another standard, then it really won't be that much different anyway. All that time and money could have gone to something more unique or useful.
I agree. I use my computer for all kinds of things. Hardly ever are both hands on the keyboard. If I am doing graphics, video, working on code, or even surfing -- I always have one hand on the mouse--error keys -- or at times a graphics tablet.
My friends who are big time gamers are the same. The picture I saw of this http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000813025740/ S hows the arrow keys in the center. Why? It says for the elderly? Is that the market these days?
It seems we need a newer way to multitask silently (speech recog. doesnt work in my office). One hand typing and one free. Any ideas?
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I have both Mac and Windows at home and I did have them both at work. I have been using a USB mouse for 2 or 3 years. I actually use a Microsoft Laser mouse on my Mac at home! It works 100% no problems. Hardcore Mac users never believe me when I tell them it will work. I bought one in Japan for 20.00 US. The Apple Mouse will probably be like 80.00 but it will have a little animate mouse running around inside it. ZTG
This rocks. I created my own categories with keywords and its very sweet. Sorry maybe it is just me but I have to have a way to reduce the amount of info I go through everyday. Instead of complaining or asking why---Good Job Google
It is strange that the Harvard Community is not really speaking out. Where is the Law School on this? or The MedicalSchool? The people at Harvard who have been developing digital rights management and copyright ideas to make sharing information legal and easier?
The problem is that one is considering the intent here. With ENRON the intent was to make money. It was calculated and planned over a long period of time. You cannot compare a person who would allow the city of Los Angeles to have rolling-black-outs to someone who wanted to know if a URL trick might work.
These people didn't even know if it would work it was curiousity. How many people would even believe what they were seeing? Until I get a formal letter of acceptance or
rejection I would not accept anything I saw on a website. What if the rejection letter is the default format until someone is accepted?
AND this was not a HACK as many have stated. It was not premeditated or done out of malice. I think that it is reasonable for a person to look at their own information. Now I agree that the students could have made an effort to alert the school to the problem, but the fact is their intent was not malicious.
Finally, making a sweeping no-tolerance decision is never a good idea. The Harvard Community is full of people leading the way in LAW, ETHICS, and Copyright standards. I think the community should have a say and not just a small group of administrators who are obviously angry at the incompetence of the software and services they have bought.
Really? I drag and drop to the Ipod often with OSX and I have done it in XP too. Sometimes I dont like ITUNES because of the way it stores the MUSIC on OSX so-- I have a seperate Music folder that ITUNES can access, but I also often just manually browse it and drop files into the ipod. And on windows I can see all the hidden files. I have friends storing info on Ipods as well. I think Apple is Just slowly opening it up. Once they get a bigger market share, I believe they will start allowing people to write software and other apps that use the IPOD differently. You can store text files and calendar files on it now as well as the address book from OSX. It has alot of uses IMHO.
Maybe everyone should move there vairous servers and accounts to some non-extradition country. Then pay some one in that country to list themselves as the owner and registrant. We could start a whole new type of export business.
Has anyone considered that Maybe IBM wants out of the deal? I mean maybe they need a way to backout with out hurting future business plans.
The arguement seems illogical to us. But you could probably sell it to the Chinese as a case of Government Egotism.
I don't know. It seems like China has everything already, they just wanted the outsourcing and possibly efficientcy of IBM.
In any case, if a company has "market power" they could probably organize an injunction against themselves to save-face in a bad deal.
Apple Computer Has Failed Alot ---
There is a book about the history of Apple Computer --Apple: The Inside Story of Intrigue, Egomania, and Business Blunders.
It explains in detail that the NEWTON was not just ahead of its time, it was riddled with technical problems, poorly planned, and staffed with people working with no objective.
The CUBE -- horribly over priced and under powered. Not to mention the first six months of production were riddled cases busting from over heating.
Let's not forget the times Apple could have taken the market but shafted developers in order to maintain strick OS and Hardware Control. They had a few shots at the Microsoft Kingdom, but they passed them up.
Now, we have the mini. It is cool and marketed well. Although without a Monitor Factored into the price, it makes it difficult to bundle and sell to the normal person.
Apple displays are amazing, and expensive. You can convert the Mini`s monitor output to take a standard display, but now your telling someone they have to buy a computer without a monitor and add a piece of hardware to it at home to get their old monitor to work. AND you have to mention that a loss of quality from that instalation will result.
Or you can sell them a 300-500 dollar monitor thus asking them to pay 800-1000 for a new Mac. A product they may not be familiar with.
Computer retailers are gonna have to do alot of work to package this to normal people.
I have a MAC at home, I love it. I use a 2 button mouse with it, it was a 30.00 investment.
I also have an XP and a Turbo Linux Machine. But my Girl Friend, she is just a normal user. She doesnt want to know jack about anything. She wants a computer that includes a monitor. She will spend 700-800 on a PC that comes ready to fly with everything she needs. No learning curve to boot. She thinks the Mini is cute, but she did not even consider it for a purchase.
BUT --
I want to be wrong! Let the MINI raise Apple UP and let's hope it does not come with any weird technical issues in the next 6 months.
What always happens is people go public, get massive cash, and then try and be all they can be. I want Google to work on Browsing and Data Mining. I want them to possibly develop resources to imporve the way people like me, who work in smaller environments and benefit from their years of special research in data and management.
I don't want them going head-to-head with Linux, Windows, OS X, etc. If they have a whole new standard, I doubt I would change my life to adopt it. If they base it on another standard, then it really won't be that much different anyway. All that time and money could have gone to something more unique or useful.
I agree. I use my computer for all kinds of things. Hardly ever are both hands on the keyboard. If I am doing graphics, video, working on code, or even surfing -- I always have one hand on the mouse--error keys -- or at times a graphics tablet.
S hows the arrow keys in the center. Why? It says for the elderly? Is that the market these days?
My friends who are big time gamers are the same. The picture I saw of this http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000813025740/
It seems we need a newer way to multitask silently (speech recog. doesnt work in my office). One hand typing and one free. Any ideas?