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Google Adds News Personalization

downbad writes "ZDNet is reporting that the Google News home page is now customizable, allowing you to add or delete main news categories (such as business, sports and so on), as well as increasing or decreasing the number of headlines within a section. They've also introduced a feature that lets you create your own section using keywords for a topic that interests you."

242 comments

  1. Being a mobile user I love the text only option... by garcia · · Score: 5, Informative

    Being that I'm a mobile web user most of the time I really appreciate the addition of text only news.google.com. It's not that the page didn't load fast enough as it was but the text only version is left justified and is rendered a lot better than it normally is.

    While you can modify the layout to left justify almost everything now it still doesn't remove the "customize this page" box and a couple of stories (from Top Stories) on the right side. Oh well it's still in beta ;)

  2. Call me when... by Bin_jammin · · Score: 0, Troll

    it automatically filters ads from search results, or at least lets me do it easily.

  3. Google devotion by northcat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would slashdot have reported this if it was Yahoo (or something else) which did this instead of Google?

    1. Re:Google devotion by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Would slashdot have reported this if it was Yahoo (or something else) which did this instead of Google?


      No. Because if Yahoo! did it, it would be cluttered with ads and unusable, but if google does it, it is a new useful service that is interesting and makes intelligent use of new implementation of current technologies (like the drag&drop customization of the news items that interest you).
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    2. Re:Google devotion by northcat · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or serious.

    3. Re:Google devotion by weierstrass · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No. Because if Yahoo! did it, it would be cluttered with ads and unusable, but if google does it, it is a new useful service that is interesting and makes intelligent use of new implementation of current technologies
      This is exactly the attitude that has turned the front page of /. into adspace for any new crap google think they're going to dominate the world with this week. Google provide a pretty decent search engine. In fact it's probably the best. This does not mean that their 'beta' email system is any better than anyone else's, that they are a benevolent company who love technology for it's own sake, that they are the future of the Internet, or indeed that they are trying to do anything other than maximise shareholder value by providing marketable web services.
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    4. Re:Google devotion by skraps · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Speaking of Yahoo, is anyone else afraid that Google will turn into Yahoo if they keep adding services?

      Every time they come out with something new, everyone says "oh cool, i'll use that!" But look at Yahoo's homepage after ten years of that business. I'm sure there are some good services in there, but it's hard to find them among all the ... other good services.

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    5. Re:Google devotion by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sarcastic. Yahoo! news is here since ages and works like a charm. Sorry for me writing such an incomprensible post.

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    6. Re:Google devotion by shawn0122 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That is a constant worry because when companies try to cover everything like Microsoft, they seem to stop innovating on the products that made them what they are in the first place. Google is much better then Yahoo by having many built in functions accessed through the search field instead of displaying them on their home page.

    7. Re:Google devotion by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 0, Troll
      Would slashdot have reported this if it was Yahoo (or something else) which did this instead of Google?

      I predict that later today, Slashdot will announce that Google's Director of Marketing has eaten a Grilled Ham and Cheese Sandwich for lunch.

    8. Re:Google devotion by HMarieY · · Score: 1

      Opera has had this for months now, with no adds and with an excellent little search attatched.http://portal.opera.com/

    9. Re:Google devotion by omnipotens · · Score: 1

      1.
      Lots of companies do great things while they're trying to maximise shareholder value. How's about Redhat, Mandrake, etc.? How about Apple? There is such a thing as a good corporation.

      2.
      Judging from my experience, and what other people have said about it, their free e-mail is in fact much better than others. And that compressed JavaScript thing that they're using to power their superior e-mail, superior maps, superior search "suggest" feature, and superior news customization is in fact new and interesting technology.

      Here's a few things that make Google's free e-mail a bit "nicer" than others:

      *Free POP Access
      *Free Forwarding
      *Blistering speed compared to other webmail

      3.
      Google gets a lot of press on slashdot because they are a group who is investing incredible amounts of time and money into resarch, not because slashdot has some sort of unnatural love of Google-- we all know that slashdot has a highly unnatural love of penguins :).

    10. Re:Google devotion by g33ker · · Score: 0

      How about Apple? There is such a thing as a good corporation.

      Look at this: Is Apple The New Microsoft?
      Apple do make some good stuff though.

    11. Re:Google devotion by Bobman1235 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This does not mean that their 'beta' email system is any better than anyone else's, that they are a benevolent company who love technology for it's own sake, that they are the future of the Internet, or indeed that they are trying to do anything other than maximise shareholder value by providing marketable web services.

      While I mostly agree with what your'e saying with regards to google's benevolence, you CAN'T argue that when they do things, they do them pretty well. They DO have the most useful and least obtrusive search engine. Their email system has the best interface I'VE ever used for a web client, and it's lightening fast compared to all the other biggies (yahoo, hotmail). Their new map system is really fast and easy to use - missing a few features, not ready for primetime, but still faster and easier than mapquest or yahoo! maps.

      The Slashdot community is acting like a bunch of little fan-boys--big surprise--but that doesn't mean that they're not at least in part correct. As long as google keeps doing things right, WHATEVER their motive (which is obviously to make money), peopel are gonna continue to love and praise them.

    12. Re:Google devotion by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      My my.yahoo page has I think one ad on it and is seems to have a lot more features than google news. I will admit that I am going to play with google news but the yahoo news page is still very useful.

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    13. Re:Google devotion by filmmaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not true!

      There was a time, certainly, when it was true, but not anymore.

      I've been playing around with my.yahoo.com lately. The level of customizability and ease of use is on par with anything Google does*. Not knocking Google, but only giving Yahoo! its due credit.

      To answer the grandparent, of course not! I know this because, well, Yahoo's been doing this for a while....I didn't see a slashdot.org headline. Anyone else?

      * the irony is that Firefox + RSS is just as, or even more, capable than either service.

    14. Re:Google devotion by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      Excite has had this for years and years.

    15. Re:Google devotion by Mant · · Score: 1

      So you would rather Google not create new good services so as not to confuse you?

    16. Re:Google devotion by Thundertje · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But look at Yahoo's homepage after ten years of that business. Take a look at Google's homepage after 7 years. Still the bare minimum.

    17. Re:Google devotion by Donny+Smith · · Score: 1

      > Speaking of Yahoo, is anyone else afraid that Google will turn into Yahoo if they keep adding services?

      Is that a question?
      Go figure - their market capitalization is (say) about 50 billion. As the point of investing is making money, they'd better return 5 billion a year to make that about 10% ROI, otherwise they're screwed.

      Now, 5b a year - that's 13mil a day, or in other words quite hard. They need to show more ads, get more viewers/visitors, etc.

      They'll keep adding all kinds of crap, what else do you expect? On the other hand, that doesn't mean you have to use those stupid services if you don't want to.

      As far as the article is concerned - it's a two-edged sword - you personalize their news, they personalize ads they show. Screw that.

    18. Re:Google devotion by balster+neb · · Score: 1

      Talking of usability, that's one area where Google News scores well over Yahoo for me. I've tried My Yahoo, but I prefer Google News for it's simple and clear layout.

      Observe how it neatly colour codes the different sections, gives a photo for most stores, and is generally pleasing to the eye. They make it very easy for you to quickly skim over the headlines to look for something you're interested in.

      There is still plenty of room for improvement, but I hope they focus on making it easier for users to get news quickly, rather than add useless features that have nothing to do with news.

      That said, it does seem that Slashdot is completely in love with Google these days. Sure, Google may be good, but I don't feel that warrants having a story everytime they update a service or product.

    19. Re:Google devotion by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      The thing I like about Google News' new features is the ability to create a custom block based on keywords. The first thing I did was to create one for Firefox, and then one for Thunderbird. That's how I found out that Thunderbird 1.0.1 is almost out.

      There was one small bug in the interface, I've reported it and also found a workaround, so it's all good.

      Anyway, my point is: if MyYahoo has the custom block (based on a keyword or phrase) feature, then it's hideously buried, because in my five years of using MyYahoo, I've never seen it.

    20. Re:Google devotion by OAB_X · · Score: 1

      BLASPHEMERS! How dare you challenge your God Google! Burn in the fires of HELL!

    21. Re:Google devotion by skraps · · Score: 1
      Yes! I would rather they have a handful of very useful services.

      Everyone says that Google is different than Yahoo, because Google's new services are innovative and have cool high-tech interfaces. Well, back when Yahoo was in full-bloat grow-mode, their services were pretty cool and innovative too. But then they were left to maintenance and became, without changing, the old and crusty services we expect from Yahoo today.

      Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying Google has already succumbed to that fate, or even that they will. They may be able to outpace Yahoo and have continuous improvements to all of their services.

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    22. Re:Google devotion by chrisd · · Score: 1
      I think you should explore your user preferences. You can shut off topics, whether it be news about Google, Wireless, Linux, etc.. anything you think there is too much of, you can make disappear.

      Of course, I like the google stuff on slashdot, but you'd expect that.

      Chris DiBona

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      Open Source Program Manager, Google, Inc.
    23. Re:Google devotion by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      What does "turning into Yahoo" mean?

      Afraid that Google will turn into a place with many varying services?

      Well if they hold the same quality as so far, I'm all for it.

      As much as I'm all for Yahoo introducing any useful services.

      What's this deal with "they offer too much useful services" thing so they're now evil on Slashdot? That's two separate things to me, something of all companies that Google has shown most in modern times.

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    24. Re:Google devotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Google bad, google bad. Google employees are milionnaires, I am a nobody. I am jelous."

    25. Re:Google devotion by Ender_Wiggin · · Score: 1

      Ah, you mean the FUD? Did you even read the posts in the article you linked to?

    26. Re:Google devotion by Xarius · · Score: 1

      That won't happen to Google. They have learned from the mistakes of others. The company realises that people don't want everything crammed into one page. if they want gmail, they'll go to the gmail section, if they want news, they'll go to the news section etc.

      Keeping everything seperate works far better than flooding people with services they'll never use.

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    27. Re:Google devotion by Lm77 · · Score: 1

      MyYahoo has been able to drag and drop personalized content (their news and any RSS feeds of your choice) for months now (some features it has for years). It is actually very well done.

    28. Re:Google devotion by mewphobia · · Score: 1

      But at least you get to use the google search engine to find the google services.

  4. I'm down with ZDNet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cos they is reportin'

  5. Saw it this morning by Hamfist · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I think it's great. I'm a Canadian, currently in Chile, and in preparations for a move to Mexico. I am interested in US News, Canadian News, Mexican News, and International News. I could care less about Sports, Entertainment, and Health News, so I get rid of them. This is even better than workspaces for me.

    Good work google.

    1. Re:Saw it this morning by RyanG34 · · Score: 1

      I think it's great too. Google is one of the most innovative companies out there. Possibly one of the best unless you are posting personal derogatory blogs relating to google. lol

    2. Re:Saw it this morning by Matthias+Wiesmann · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Same thing here, I used to switch between the Swiss, French and US google news sites. Now I can use a single page with the news I am interested in.

      One nice feature would be able to select news geographically (in particular for local news). Countries are not really a good granularity when you are close to the border. I suppose the ideal solution would be to have new geo-tagged, but we are not here yet.

    3. Re:Saw it this morning by Hamfist · · Score: 1



      That's an excellent idea, you should develop it some more and sell it to Google :) I'm sure they's find good use for it. As I find myself moving about in this world, being able to get the information most relevant to my situation is becoming more difficult.

      One example would be very useful, I think, would be the ability to select one or more countries to search in from the main Web search. Currently Google does this for the country specific subdomains (google.cl lets me restrict search to Chilean pages), but not enabled for multiple countries at the same time.

    4. Re:Saw it this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's great. I'm a Canadian, currently in Chile, and in preparations for a move to Mexico.

      You should try the new Google Slanderize feature -- it'll instantly bring up articles that you can sue for huge cash awards in your area.

    5. Re:Saw it this morning by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 2, Funny
      US News, Canadian News

      Isn't that pretty much the same thing?

      Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

    6. Re:Saw it this morning by Hamfist · · Score: 1

      Hehe, that's fairly funny. Hope it get's modded up.

      On the serious side, the news that shows up for Canada and the US is wildy different from google news. I get tidbits of news from the cities where my family lives. I don't think anything that happens in Calgary will make the US news page unless it affects US Interests.

    7. Re:Saw it this morning by Young+Master+Ploppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The first thing I did was think "yeah, this could be a really cool way to compare news bias..."

      So I added two sections side by side: one from the UK "World News" section, and the other from the US "World News" section.

      Top stories in the UK World News were

      and yet neither story was mentioned on the US side. The top story in the US world news was:

      Does this mean that as an advertising company, Google could be in danger of falling prey to the advertising pressures that rule the traditional US news media? Draw your own conclusions, I guess....

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    8. Re:Saw it this morning by INetUser · · Score: 1

      I have to agree with you. I got ride of the useless sports and entertainment, and added corporate scandals, government leadership, and Corporate Governance. Way to go Google. Anyone else think that eventually Google will become the web? (chuckle, chuckle).

    9. Re:Saw it this morning by balster+neb · · Score: 1

      I'm another person who reads news from more than one region.

      But there's one feature I could really do with in Google News: the ability to customise news sources. Currently they link to stories from all sorts of new sources, and some of them I prefer not to use for one of various reasons (sites that always require registration are annoying). It would be great if they allowed users to create a whitelist or blacklist of news sources they want stories from.

    10. Re:Saw it this morning by barbarac · · Score: 1

      Yes Agreed!! I'm an Australian living in Canada and I think the coolest thing about this is that I can now look at multi-regional news on the same page.

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    11. Re:Saw it this morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's an excellent idea, you should develop it some more and sell it to Google

      Google doesn't want it. Or at least not when my company tried to partner with them for it. We've got a small automatic geotagger in house, which we use to geotag news (some of it from google). The management here spoke to google about it, but the deal never went anywhere.

      Truthfully, with google's search ability (they already do pretty well with local.google.com), I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with geographic searches for the news pretty soon.

      (Posting Anonymously for "talking about work" reasons.)

    12. Re:Saw it this morning by vikramrn · · Score: 1

      From what I tried, even if I add multiple sections say World News (US) and World News (UK), the stories do not repeat.

      For instance, check this and also this.

      It appears that, only the first instance a story occurs, is displayed. No Repeats!

    13. Re:Saw it this morning by adpowers · · Score: 1

      I also wanted local news. What I did was create two new categories with keywords of the cities I live in. The keywords work really well and I see mostly relevant content. Give it a try.

    14. Re:Saw it this morning by JonToycrafter · · Score: 1

      From what I tried, even if I add multiple sections say World News (US) and World News (UK), the stories do not repeat.
      It appears that, only the first instance a story occurs, is displayed. No Repeats!

      Wow! Could they sell this incredible new technology to Slashdot?

    15. Re:Saw it this morning by Matthias+Wiesmann · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the idea. I tried it, problem is I still get some noise, I live near Geneva, and half of the google news are about the Geneva convention, but it is a nice start.

    16. Re:Saw it this morning by adpowers · · Score: 1

      Oh, hmm. Is it possible to do a normal search query, like [Geneva -convention]? That might work, but it would look weird as a headline.

    17. Re:Saw it this morning by adpowers · · Score: 1

      Okay, it turns out it is possible to do a normal search query. I used [geneva -convention -conventions] and it worked pretty well. If you click on advanced while adding the new entry, you can give it a better looking title (I used [Geneva]). Here is an example of Geneva.

  6. I wonder if there will be a Rather-ize option? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd love to see stories that should be true.

    / Courage!

  7. Whats your custom section? by 8400_RPM · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I created a custom section that searches for movies. What has everyone else added?

    1. Re:Whats your custom section? by d3bruts1d · · Score: 1

      I've added sections for:
      "Overclockers Club"
      "Mozilla"
      "Slashdot"
      "Google"
      "Warcraft"

      Layout is like this:

      OCC | Sci/Tech
      Mozilla | Google
      Slashdot | Entertainment
      Warcraft | US
      Business | World
      Health | Sports
      Nothing | More Top Stories

    2. Re:Whats your custom section? by Poppler · · Score: 1

      I think the custom sections need more options.

      It currently allows you to narrow your search down to one existing section. It would be nice to be able to select multiple sections to search from; for example, I created an "Apple" section, and I would like to be able to pull the results from both "sci/tech" and "business". Instead I'm stuck putting it in "All Sections", and the number one story is "Golden Apple Wows Teacher".

      I would also like to be able to filter out stories with certain keywords. I created a "Music" section, and I would like to get rid of stories that contain the phrase "face the music" (most of them not being music-related). Even when the search is narrowed down to the entertainment section, I'm still seeing results about Dan Rather. And I wouldn't mind being able to get rid of the Michael Jackson stories.

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    3. Re:Whats your custom section? by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      I also created a movies section, and have created various Tech-like sections. I would not be surprised at all if google monitors the most common custom sections and adds them to the primary interface, expect to see movies up there soon!

    4. Re:Whats your custom section? by __aavwlx7934 · · Score: 1

      I would also like to be able to filter out stories with certain keywords. I created a "Music" section, and I would like to get rid of stories that contain the phrase "face the music" (most of them not being music-related). Even when the search is narrowed down to the entertainment section, I'm still seeing results about Dan Rather. And I wouldn't mind being able to get rid of the Michael Jackson stories.

      You can begin any keyword with a dash to exclude it from matches. For example:

      music -michael.jackson
    5. Re:Whats your custom section? by Poppler · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I feel stupid ;-)

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    6. Re:Whats your custom section? by blackcat77 · · Score: 1

      I added Mental Health, Indiana, Motorsports and Formula 1. I got rid of Entertainment.

    7. Re:Whats your custom section? by cosmo7 · · Score: 1

      I think those options are equivalent to US entertainment anyway.

  8. Yahoo's been doing this for years... by orlinius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's exactly the news here?
    Yahoo's been doing this for years.

    Ah, I forgot, it's Google. Anything as much as a difference in the atmospheric pressure around the Google campus makes the front page on slashdot.

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    1. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by n0dalus · · Score: 1, Funny

      Anything as much as a difference in the atmospheric pressure around the Google campus makes the front page on slashdot.

      Google has a campus?! Someone ought to submit a Slashdot story about this.

    2. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by weierstrass · · Score: 2, Funny

      They breathe air at Google?

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    3. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The atmospheric pressure around google changed? Brilliant! STP is inefficient for searching the large quantity of searches which they serve.

    4. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they breath vapourised Caffine. At least that's the only way I can explain the amount of cool stuff that comes out of that place...

    5. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What's exactly the news here?
      Maybe that Google has just started doing this making it a current event and therfore news worthy.
      Yahoo's been doing this for years.
      Yahoo having started this service years ago makes it not a current event and therefore not news worthy.

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    6. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by orlinius · · Score: 1

      I appreciate your evaluation of my post and the explanation of what should be considered as "news worthy".

      But may be in my post I just put more weight on NEW in "news worthy", as in "Google hasn't presented anything NEW here".

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    7. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think part of the reason that Google makes it on here so much is because Google is so secretive. Because of that, everyone puts them under a bigger microscope than anyone, and posts any 'breaking' news about them. Of course if someone is notorious for not saying anything, but they have a large impact in the world, everyone will have their ears tuned in.

      Also, people are just WAITING for them to screw up.

    8. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

      Chill out!

      Maybe I'm the only one who hasn't been using Yahoo News, but I doubt it. When I saw the parent I decided to do the slashdot thing and check it out. I didn't know where to find Yahoo news, so I just went to yahoo.com. After a bit of looking I found a button that said news and clicked it: nothing. Hmmm...oh, that's a search. So where's the news? Scroll, scroll ... Ooh, here's a link that says news. Whoops! Whats this? Looks like a page of links to Yahoo directories of news and media. Not what I expected, but here's a link to web directories. Okay, I've clicked it and Voila! The second link is Yahoo news. Good now we're cooking.

      Eleven stories from three sources (AP, USAToday, Reuters) plus links to additional news organizations.

      Compare that experience to google: Go to google.com. Click the very obvious news button. Bingo! Twenty-six stories from twenty odd sources, and each with multiple headlines from other sources. Maybe that's why most people that I know use Google news as their primary news source. I really don't know anyone who uses Yahoo News in preference to Google News. An interesting aside, Google news doesn't even appear in the Yahoo directory. That's a big omission.

      Now let me address the customizable bit before I get modded off-topic. I went to the Yahoo customize page and all I can do is "cosmetic changes": color, whether each section shows a summary or 3 headlines or 5 headlines, which order the sections are in, and (okay this is a content customization) which city's weather is shown.

      The "News for Nerds" in this story is that Google is truly customizable. Not only can you add standard sections from each of over 20 regional editions, but you can also create your own sections based on your own search words and type of news ( the standard sections).

    9. Re:Yahoo's been doing this for years... by tgibbs · · Score: 1

      What's exactly the news here?
      Yahoo's been doing this for years.


      Yeah, but I gave up on Yahoo years ago, because with all of its customization, I couldn't seem to get a news page layout that I liked as much as the default for news.google.

  9. No by brunes69 · · Score: 3, Informative

    No because it wouldn't be news, sinc eyou have been able to do this at http://my.yahoo.com for going on 3 years now. As well, My Yahoo! leys you add RSS feeds... Google doesn't (although they let you add custom search feeds, which is different).

    1. Re:No by g33ker · · Score: 0

      It would be sweet if google let you add feeds... but The only feed I would want to add is slashdot :p

    2. Re:No by self+assembled+struc · · Score: 1, Informative

      3 years? My Yahoo launched in 1997.

      That's 8 years by my reconing.

      I mean, yeah, Google is pretty cool, but man, people really gotta get off their jock.

    3. Re:No by christopherfinke · · Score: 1
      No because it wouldn't be news
      It's not news, it's Fark.c- Whoops, wrong website.
    4. Re:No by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      3 years? My Yahoo launched in 1997. That's 8 years by my reconing.

      um, try again: 2005 - 1997 = 3 years

    5. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um, what?

  10. One Word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    They've also introduced a feature that lets you create your own section using keywords for a topic that interests you."

    Porn.

  11. Business Direction by Puls4r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    News, Maps, etc. It certainly appears that Google is poising themselves to become a one-stop internet site.

    However, they won't be able to do so without becoming an ISP. So the question is, where and when will Google break into the ISP market so they can capture a gauranteed customer base to compete with Yahoo and MSN?

    Is there a likely company for Google to partner with?

    1. Re:Business Direction by odano · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why does google need to be an ISP?

      I don't think google is worried about capturing a guaranteed customer base, because they already have one. If somebody is doing a web search, the plurality of users already come to google. As long as they keep adding more features, I dont think they are going to have to worry about losing these users to Yahoo/MSN.

      Also, if somebody wants to switch search engines from yahoo->google, they just change the URL. But if google gets into the ISP market, what incentive is there for people already happy with their Yahoo DSL service or Verizon/MSN Service to switch? They may save a few bucks (assuming google can even field a more competitive price), but they have to go through the entire hassle of changing ISPs just so they can have google automatically be their homepage?

    2. Re:Business Direction by aurb · · Score: 1

      I predict googlenet.

    3. Re:Business Direction by value_added · · Score: 1

      Pardon my ignorance, but Yahoo DSL service? Aside from their webhosting foray, my impression was that the extent of the Yahoo name involvement is little more than co-branding. My own case as an example, SBC provides the service, and Yahoo provides a portal which I'm supposed to find use for.

    4. Re:Business Direction by Momoru · · Score: 1

      I think google should be concerned about a guaranteed customer base...a good article on thestreet.com pointed out today that some students in Shanghai could come up with a better search tommorow and we would switch (we all switched from Webcrawler, to alta vista to yahoo and then to google...i personally have no loyalty). All these new features they are putting out now are attempts to get people locked into their services. Not that an ISP would be the way they would go, but if it works for yahoo they may.

    5. Re:Business Direction by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
      I think google should be concerned about a guaranteed customer base...a good article on thestreet.com pointed out today that some students in Shanghai could come up with a better search tommorow and we would switch

      True, but there are two ways to get the customer base: lock them in (by becoming an ISP, say, and making your users sign a contract) or by continuing to innovate and be the best. The former method gets you a customer base, but a disgruntled one. The latter gets you a customer base who are envangelists for you. Look at Apple, for example.

  12. Re:What the hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the franchise. Two birds, one stone!

  13. Now... by Ailure · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope i'm not the only one who want a such featuree on Slashdot too. Wouldn't that feature be quite useful here?

    1. Re:Now... by salemlb · · Score: 1

      please... someone mod this clown as funny before anyone actually takes him seriously... the last thing we need is for people to think that slashdot lifted its front page customizing scheme from google.

    2. Re:Now... by wootest · · Score: 1

      I think he was referring to the drag and drop reordering aspect - which didn't debute in Google News at all, by the way. I've seen it as early as TypePad, which will soon be two years old, and I'll be very, very surprised if it didn't exist before that in other incarnations.

    3. Re:Now... by domefreak · · Score: 1

      Actually, Slashdot already allows you to customize your homepage. Just go to preferences, and under the "homepage" tab you can choose which topics, authors, and slashboxes you want.

  14. Now personalize the main page by bbzzdd · · Score: 1

    I really don't like the images popping up on certain searches on the main page now. The new functionality really takes away from the clean, minimalist Google feel. At least make it an option to disable it.

  15. Localization would be Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, the US News page still has soccer and rugby stories instead of the ethnocentric stuff so many of US care about.

  16. wow by Momoru · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I know this redundant, but seriously MSN and Yahoo have had this since the late 90s. Google news's popularity despite having this functionality should have been the story.

  17. Why? by ColdGrits · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why is it "news" when Google do another "me too" service?

    I mean, let's face it. Yahoo, Reteurs and many others have been doing this sort of thing for years now.
    Why is it suddenly news that Google have caught up?

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    1. Re:Why? by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      Why is it suddenly news that Google have caught up?

      Because, let's face it. Over the last couple of weeks, the news has been rather slow and /. needs to post something every now and then. Otherwise, all of us would lose interest.

    2. Re:Why? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      I mean, let's face it. Yahoo, Reteurs and many others have been doing this sort of thing for years now. Why is it suddenly news that Google have caught up?>

      "News?" Who said anything about "News?"

      You can't tell me I'm the only one here believing that money is not changing hands here. Because the Google and EFF stories don't appear in the little boxes off to the top and sides of the page does not make them any less than the paid advertisements they are.

      I'm sure the rates are premium as well, cuz this site's paid subscribers can't turn them off as we can the 'traditional' boxed and banner ads.

    3. Re:Why? by pilkul · · Score: 1
      Haven't you considered that maybe the Slashdot editors are just silly fanboys of Google and the EFF who'll report anything they do? Lots of such people exist, as you'll see just by reading the comments in this thread (... or are they all shills too, according to you?)

      Your conspiracy theory doesn't make any sense. Everything I know about the slashdot editors tells me they are dumb (duplicate stories, bad grammar), but nothing tells me they are corrupt. When in doubt, assume stupidity rather than malice. Also, Google is one thing but accusing a nonprofit entity like the EFF of bad business practices is bizarre.

    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I'm much more interested in such a service developed by Google, rather than something similar from Yahoo or Reuters for 3 simple reasons:
      * I can be certain I won't be bothered by advertising
      * It will have a very simple/clean interface
      * It will be functional

      I think lot's of Slashdot readers would agree with me on these points.

    5. Re:Why? by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      accusing a nonprofit entity like the EFF of bad business practices is bizarre.

      How is arranging to have fannishly pro-EFF stories, laden with links making it easy to contribute, placed during quarterly EFF fundraising drives, a "bad business practice?" It's genius. And to an EFF lawyer, for whom it may make the difference between flying coach and business class back-n-forth between SF and DC, it's frickin' brilliant.

      To assume that /. does not have some system of quid-pro-quo in place to ensure front-page story placement for a client, especially given all the non-Google/EFF slashvertisements, is bizarrely naive.

    6. Re:Why? by pilkul · · Score: 2, Funny
      To assume that /. does not have some system of quid-pro-quo in place to ensure front-page story placement for a client, especially given all the non-Google/EFF slashvertisements, is bizarrely naive.

      Marge: Do you want your son to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court or a sleazy male stripper?
      Homer: Can't he be both, like the late Earl Warren?
      Marge: Earl Warren wasn't a stripper!
      Homer: Now, who's being naive?

    7. Re:Why? by scavok · · Score: 1

      Why does slashdot report progress on linux when microsoft has already done the same sort of thing for years?

    8. Re:Why? by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      Because Google is the new Microsoft. The entity that is getting too big too fast and everyone loves to hate (or love).

      Every Google story generates tens of thousands of ad impressions for Slashdork. They'd be stupid not to ride the wave if it's there.

  18. BBC presents... by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 1

    ... news for parrots!

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  19. Next Week's Headline by altek · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google Switches to Slashcode, Hostile Takeover of Slashdot In Planning Stages ;)

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    1. Re:Next Week's Headline by SpongeBobLinuxPants · · Score: 3, Funny

      Tomorrow's headline:

      Google Adds News Personalization

    2. Re:Next Week's Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Google Switches to Slashcode, Hostile Takeover of Slashdot In Planning Stages ;)"

      Hostile? Who would be hostile about Google taking over? I mean, half of slashdot adores them, and the other half just want dups to be a thing of the past. Sounds like a win/win.

    3. Re:Next Week's Headline by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 1

      Google Switches to Slashcode, Hostile Takeover of Slashdot In Planning Stages ;)

      "Millions of users plagued by 500 & 503 errors."

    4. Re:Next Week's Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashcode yuck. I'd prefer Linux like in the old days.

  20. Support for Opera by TheJavaGuy · · Score: 4, Informative
    Customized news requires you to have both Javascript and cookies turned on. Your browser must be Internet Explorer 6.0 (or newer), Netscape 7.1 (or newer), Mozilla 1.4 (or newer), Firefox 0.8 (or newer), Opera 7.54 (or newer), or Safari 1.2.2 (or newer).

    Wow, Google finally relased a product/update that works on the Opera browser. It took a long time for Google: Suggest, Maps, etc. to work properly on Opera.

    Kudos to Google.

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    1. Re:Support for Opera by justforaday · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It took a long time for Google: Suggest, Maps, etc. to work properly on Opera.

      Let's see...Google maps was unveiled on February 8. Opera (and Safari) support was added on February 28. Oh yeah, that's a horrendously long time...

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    2. Re:Support for Opera by wootest · · Score: 1

      XMLHTTPRequest support took an even longer time to come to Opera. I forgive them, since it's not a de jure standard but a de facto one, but you might want to consider that. It's true that Maps used iframe loading from the beginning, though, and I have no idea why it wasn't supported from the beginning. As a developer, I know that Javascript support in Opera can be finicky. I can catch up arrow presses in a text field with onkeyup but not down arrow, for example, and I think even Google Suggest has to work around this with global key event handlers. I think Opera's extensive key shortcut system is to blame for this in one way or another.

  21. Grrr.... what a tease! by bafu · · Score: 1

    I had just been thinking yesterday that I wish I still had my "What a Wonderful World" news page. I had a service at the time which let me build a page using a set of keywords, so I made one with "genocide" "death squad" "ethnic cleansing" and on and on. It was a great dose of perspective.

    The Google thing seems to only let you set up one list of keywords, all of which must all appear in the article, however. sigh... that will not do

  22. whoopdy-fricking-doo by stubear · · Score: 1

    I've been able to do this for years with MSN.com. The latest incarnation of this site allows me to not only customize the home page, I can also add specialized content pages. In addition to my general home page which includes traffic reports, weather, headline news, and Slate editorials amongst other things, I have pages for more in-depth coverage of local and national news, sports, a comics page, and a movie listing and reviews page. MSN.com has content from hundreds of sources from content providers like CNET, eBay, Slate, NY Times, MSNBC, and quite a few others. While the page works better in IE on Windows, it still works in Firefox sans some of the more elaborate customization features such as resizable columns and dragging content around to reorder it on the page.

  23. Customizable Search!!!! by Evil+W1zard · · Score: 1

    "They've also introduced a feature that lets you create your own section using keywords for a topic that interests you." -- Why not just use RSS?

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  24. Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship! by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    New, from Google!

    Tired of unfiltered news from the democratic infodels of the world cluttering the mindset of your nation's population? Worry no more!

    With only a few clicks of the mouse, you can customize the news categories, topics, outlets and reporters that you wish to be provided to your nation. Even better, use our genius inline search and replace system that lets you manipulate simple regexes to substitute chosen phrases with your own!

    Just another service from your friends at Google!

    (Well, it's an idea...!)

  25. Sub-Par by hamlet2600 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I honestly believe google is doing amazing things with internet based UIs, but this one leaves a lot to be desired. Its not very intuitive and I find it kind of hard to use. Its not nearly as elegant as gMail or as easy to use as Maps. I wonder why this one seems to be a shotty hack.

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    1. Re:Sub-Par by LazyEmc2 · · Score: 1

      Probably because they had been reading /. and saw all the bitching about lack of customization, and thought "Hell we better do something before these fuckers revolt."

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  26. personalized news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "They've also introduced a feature that lets you create your own section using keywords for a topic that interests you."

    Can you say "Targeted advertising"?

    1. Re:personalized news by PigleT · · Score: 1

      Sure you can, you open mouth, arrange teeth and tongue to form the syllables and blow wind up from your lungs.

      But that's better than *untargeted* advertising, at least :)

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    2. Re:personalized news by ewithrow · · Score: 1

      It's not advertising at all. The section just does a regular google news search for some terms you specify and puts that in its own section on your news page. For example if you are really into the Michael Jackson trial you could make that its own category and it will display X number of articles containing those keywords.

    3. Re:personalized news by wootest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Can you say "I would see it as less annoying being advertised at with relevant and interesting ads while seeing personally relevant and interesting news"?

  27. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Google crawled Linus's webpage today!

  28. Share preferences by Ronnie+Coote · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You can also share your preferences with others, because Google will show you a URL which will generate your selected view. At bottom of the page, hit 'Share your customized news with a friend'.

    Presumably, the code provided in the URL is a reference to a great big lookup table that they keep with everybody's preferences (custom search terms, layout etc). I have set up lots of custom search terms, and the URL is certainly not long enough to contain them all.

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    1. Re:Share preferences by gertsenl · · Score: 1

      I haven't tried this feature so I'm just guessing, but does the behavior rule out the possibility that the URL could just be encoding all the articles that are currently showing up? Like, can you click a "show more articles" button under your foot fetish filter? If so, I guess you're right.

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    2. Re:Share preferences by Inda · · Score: 1

      And sharing's what it's all about.

      Fun too.

      http://news.google.com/news?ned=:ePkh8BM9E...

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    3. Re:Share preferences by bunnyman · · Score: 1

      Don't click this link at work!

    4. Re:Share preferences by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      I like that you can get customized news without having register a username+password. My Yahoo wants to lock users in, but Google just wants eyeballs, I guess.

  29. I need coffee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read the headline as Google Adds News Penetration...

  30. ok by TOWebstress · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is okay, but I'd rather see Google do what Google does best -- that is, break new ground and not just re-package what other portals have been doing for years. Call me nuts, but I would have expected more of an "oh cool" factor coming out of Google on this.

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    1. Re:ok by BlurredWeasel · · Score: 1

      Think about it, thats now what google does. Google takes tried and true web technologies (search, mail, maps, news) and then makes the lots better in terms of ease of use and functionality.

      Think about it - I had a yahoo mail account years before gmail even was started, yet gmail kicks yahoo's interface up and down the block. Same with google's search. There were lots of search engines out there that did an adequate job, they weren't breaking new ground when they made theirs, even if it returned better results. Again, same with maps, just that the interface is SO much better than mapquest or equivilant.

      I will grant that news is a 'new' thing, even though all the content was already out there, and it is just aggregated. How it does that is cool, as is the google suggest thing, thats a really cool use of technology.

      Basically what I'm saying is that google doesn't always innovate, they focus more on the ease of use rather than on the 'new hotness'

  31. Something I Suggested by tilleyrw · · Score: 1

    Not too many moons past, I suggested that Google implement "Personal Home News Pages" where a user could define topics in which they are interested. It would provide news "tuned" to the indidual.

    This seems to be something similar. It is good to see good ideas being implemented.

    (I'm merely glad to help Google respond to user needs.)

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    1. Re:Something I Suggested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you invented Yahoo! News. Congratulations.

  32. Diamond Age by IceFox · · Score: 5, Informative

    This reminds me of little tidbit from Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age. Because "in the future" all the common people got high targeted newspapers containing stories that they would like and it was a sign of status to actually read the normal full New York Times rather then to only get the articles it knows you are interested in. Kinda like /. already. Those who read only /. eventually think that everyone reads /. and cares about issues that are on /.

    -Benjamin Meyer

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    1. Re:Diamond Age by SmokeHalo · · Score: 1

      Those who read only /. eventually think that everyone reads /. and cares about issues that are on /.

      Hee hee, you say that like they don't. Everybody does read /., and we all do care that someone can boot Linux on the latest MP3 player, digital watch, camcorder, or toaster.

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    2. Re:Diamond Age by Watcher · · Score: 1

      I haven't read The Diamond Age yet (its on an ever growing list), but Clarke also had something like this in Fountains of Paradise.

  33. Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option by tehshen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I browse on a mobile phone, and its screen is teeny tiny (think 128x128 pixels). Google is clever enough to sniff the user-agent and provide a small, 5-result version for me, which I think is rather nice of it.

    It's a shame this only works for web searching, not Groups or News. News returns a file too big error, even with the text-only version you mentioned. Is there a way to get a mini-version of the news site as well?

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  34. Requires you to have cookies turned on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "Customized news requires you to have both Javascript and cookies turned on."

    Hence, they can track what you read.

    1. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps... The truth is, to do anything that's not flat and boring you need cookies and you need javascript.

    2. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by oliana · · Score: 1

      And they couldn't track what you read without cookies?

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    3. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by STrinity · · Score: 1

      The Google cookie doesn't expire until the binary millennium, so as long as you have it on your system, they can track everything you (meaning your specific user profile on your computer) does through their site for the next forty-three years. If you set cookies to session-only, they can only see what you've done since you started your browser. With cookies completely disabled, they'd either have to track your IP address, which doesn't do much good if you share a connection, have a laptop or dialup; or they could resort to javascript tricks, but anyone who doesn't allow cookies probably have JS disabled too.

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    4. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      If you can suggest a better way to maintain state over HTTP, we're all ears.

      Otherwise I'd suggest you either trust Google or stop using it.

    5. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If you can suggest a better way to maintain state over HTTP, we're all ears."

      I sure can, as well as any web developer even with basic skills.

      This information could have been easily encoded in url, for the customization is very basis and requires the minimum of data to be passed.

    6. Re:Requires you to have cookies turned on by The+Bungi · · Score: 1
      This information could have been easily encoded in url

      Your skills sure are basic.

  35. Re:What the hell? by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

    Actually they had his retarded second and hitherto unknown brother take his place, which is a lot worse than simply killing him...

  36. Finally by sapped · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Does this mean all the
    "Google is about to..."
    "Google is thinking about..."
    "Google is blah-blah..."
    stories can now be moved to the Google page and off the Slashdot page?

  37. RDF by zcougar · · Score: 1

    It would be even better if they can make you RDF feed based on your customized headline. I did manual reloads in my webbrowser last century..

  38. NO ads by Beefslaya · · Score: 0
    Part of the charm of google is the nice clean layout with the Google Box in the middle and using it for what it's good for, a search engine.

    I hope they don't make the news page a standard.

  39. Alternate reason? by STFS · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe I'm pulling BS out of my ear here but does anybody know if this kind of personalization is being used to "sort" search results to personalize them as well?

    I mean, Google (or MSN, Yahoo or whoever does this sort of thing) should be able to find out some "personal preferences" of people depending on how they sort their news website, what they filter out and so on.

    Even worse, are they using this to personalize Google Ads?

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    1. Re:Alternate reason? by generic-man · · Score: 1

      See Google Personalized, still in the labs, for a way that Google lets you build a profile explicitly.

      Of course, if they have preferences that can be tied to your persistent Google cookie or Google/Gmail account, that's even easier for them.

      No sign of their personalizing Google Ads just yet. Just think -- they could be the next DoubleClick if they did that! Imagine the synergy!

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  40. What's wrong with giving credit where it is due. by shr1n1 · · Score: 1

    For all those people who are saying that this is being done already by MSN and Yahoo, Google has definitely better interface for customizing options. Drag and drop sections, ability to switch on and off verbosity are pluses IMO. Plus it is certainly snappier than either Yahoo or MSN

  41. Could NOT care less by wowbagger · · Score: 1
    Please take this in the spirit of constructive criticism - if /. had a means for one user to send another a private message via the /. message system I would have used that method.

    "I could care less about Sports...."

    The expression is "I could not care less" - if you can care less, then you care some - if you cannot care less, then you don't care at all.

    Now, if you want, you can use this expression:

    I could care less about <thing>, but it would be an effort.

    1. Re:Could NOT care less by Mr.+Quick · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points, you'd get them.

      I have few pet peeves, but this error bugs me a lot.

    2. Re:Could NOT care less by Hamfist · · Score: 1

      Thank you both for your concern about my grammar. I've never really thought about that one, and you're both right. I'll nod to your knowledge.

      However, slashdot is not known as a haven for good grammar. There are greater grammar issues on slashdot than this one, such as the famous loose/lose. Heck, this peeve isn't even in the Everything 2 list of grammar pet peeves. Perhaps one of you could add it so that other clueless clods like me don't have to be prodded.

      Cheers,

      Hamfist
    3. Re:Could NOT care less by damiam · · Score: 1

      That used to be a big pet peeve of mine, but eventually I stopped caring when I realized that "could care less" is pretty much a commonly accepted expression. No, it doesn't make any sense, but then neither does anything else in English (why do things "make" sense instead of having sense?). People know what it means, which is all that matters.

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    4. Re:Could NOT care less by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The expression is "I could not care less" - if you can care less, then you care some - if you cannot care less, then you don't care at all.

      Both are considered acceptable, according to a language expert I heard on the radio. "I could care less" is sarcastic.

    5. Re:Could NOT care less by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      Dude, give it a rest. We could care less about this grammar rant, having it's pedantic nitpicking shoved in our faces every time it comes up. It begs the question whether we're really doing it to push you're buttons, no?

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  42. HTML !=TEXT/PLAIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful


    i hate it when search engines say "text version" when in reality its just "less html", look at the google "text" page bullshit
    it has images,colours,tables,fonts,css,script, in fact all the things that somebody expecting a "text" doesn't want, its pretty obvious they fail to see the whole point of having a "text" mode

    call it "lite html version" but "text version" it certainly aint

    1. Re:HTML !=TEXT/PLAIN by Da+Fokka · · Score: 1

      So basically you'd want Google to produce a results.txt so you could manually copy-past the URLs in your browser?

    2. Re:HTML !=TEXT/PLAIN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if a page contains only the text of news stories (as opposed to accompanying images, etc.), it certainly qualifies as a "text version". not everyone has to agree with your particular pedantically technical definition of "text version".

      if you really want to be a smart-ass, HTML is itself text, right?

  43. im amazed ppl dont see the dangers by tkjtkj · · Score: 3, Insightful

    yes, it amazing .. Here is an entity, Google, which seeks to gather all the info in the world, to associate it with particular users (gmail, etc) , to store it forever, and to fail to gaurantee privacy!! Read the 'Privacy ' statement, people!! Yes , they'll keep it sort of private WHILE THEY OWN THE DATABASE!! The COULD have said that no future sale of the company to another owner would not include that enormously valuable database, but they did NOT say that. Wake up!! This is a monster in the making, gearing up potentially to have devastating power over just about everyone.

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    1. Re:im amazed ppl dont see the dangers by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just like almost any other web service out there, if you're uncomfortable using it, don't sign up. That's pretty simple.

      Google News is good enough on its own without requiring the user to login and customize the search, so it's not like they're forcing you to provide your data. It's 100% opt-in.

      Additionally, since a free email account can be 100% anonymous (unless they subpoena your name from your ISP, which they can't do on their own), there's no way to link all that data to an actual person. Think Google is invading your privacy? Change your account once in a while or don't sign up to begin with.

      You tinfoil hat types need some common sense.

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    2. Re:im amazed ppl dont see the dangers by tkjtkj · · Score: 1

      Its nothing new, that a 'willing public' , appreciating certain 'conveniences' marches into a quagmire of regret. Did not the German public do this in the '30's ?? Did not the U.S. do it in the 60's-70's in asia?? btw, im too thickskinned to be affected by your feeble character assassination.. Tinfoil hat crowd? Why not try to emulate methods of logical and fair discourse, even though it might be a great struggle for you to accomplish it?

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  44. I rest my case. by mshiltonj · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Slashdot *must* change its slogan:

    A post from 24 hours ago.

  45. Slightly buggy by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    Some of my changes would continuously fail to take effect. Deleting the U.S. section seems to have made the problem go away.

    1. Re:Slightly buggy by pizpot · · Score: 1

      About a week ago, Google News started bugging out form my Firefox. The top of the page is displayed wrong, and the bar at the right stretches to the whole page. :-) haha google.

    2. Re:Slightly buggy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Deleting the U.S. section seems to have made the problem go away.
      Applied to the real world, that would make an awful lot of problems go away.
  46. Re:Bah by Skater · · Score: 1

    I'd say it's past the point of pissing you off. ;)

    And my standard response: You don't have to click on "Read More"...if you don't find the article interesting, read something else. Do you complain to the newspaper when they print an article you don't read?)

  47. In other google new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some google developers decided that today would be a good day to continue breathing....

    They're developers. It's not News for nerds, it's news about google.

    real news please? :(

  48. Re:Bah by cca93014 · · Score: 1

    I like the site, and I dont want it to end up as some google arselicking rubbish.

  49. Slashdot idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sad thing is that slashdot idiots modded this insightful. Yahoo had this feature 5 years ago. The Google slogan must be Google: bringing you outdated technology today.

    1. Re:Slashdot idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Google slogan must be Google: bringing you outdated technology today.

      It is only outdated if it's no longer useful. If it's useful, it should be considered "classic."

  50. Add your favorite tech stories by danharan · · Score: 1

    I had been checking every couple weeks on wind and solar energy stories... so now I just added a "Renewables" custom section with the following search:

    "solar energy" OR "solar power" OR "wind energy" OR "wind power"

    There's probably a more elegant way to state the search- but hey, I'm extremely lazy. I know I could have gotten alerts, but those just clutter my inbox... this format is quite a bit more convenient. Nice execution too :)

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  51. NO MORE SPORTS!!! by doublem · · Score: 2, Funny

    YES! Now I can at long last get rid of that stupid, pointless Sports category!!

    WAHOOO!!!

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    1. Re:NO MORE SPORTS!!! by MrP-(at+work) · · Score: 1

      heh that was the first/only thing i did

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    2. Re:NO MORE SPORTS!!! by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Funny

      YES! Now I can at long last get rid of that stupid, pointless Sports category!!

      Right On!! With the time you save not having to pagedown past the Sports Section, you'll have more time to write in your blog!

    3. Re:NO MORE SPORTS!!! by doublem · · Score: 1

      No, No, No.

      I can now replace it with categories I find INTERESTING, like the "Heidi Hleiss", "Anna Nicole Smith" and "Tonya Harding" sections I just added!

      WOOT!

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  52. Google Pwned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $14$|-|D04 0\/\/|\|3d |\|3\/\/$.500513.C0/\/\

  53. They missed: NO subscription/registration by starman97 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's the one thing tha most annoys me about Google News.

    I'd like to filter out all the sites that require some sort of registration to view them.
    If Google did that and made it prominant, a lot
    of those sites might change their policy since
    poeple would be ignoring them. If not, then too bad
    for them.

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    1. Re:They missed: NO subscription/registration by Aku+Head · · Score: 1

      I would like to filter out all of the local newspapers and local television stations that only parrot the wire feed.

  54. When can I customize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    the news itself. Like Bill Gates switches to KDE with Firefox

  55. Epic just got closer to truth by the_argent · · Score: 3, Interesting
    1. Re:Epic just got closer to truth by MoOsEb0y · · Score: 1

      That's exactly what I thought of when I saw the headline. Truth may be stranger than fiction.

  56. You, sir, must have balls of brass... by alex_podam · · Score: 1

    ...launching that kind of tirade against Google without posting as AC (or was that a mistake? :)..

    I agree, though...Google is gearing up to becoming a privacy killer, but they are paving the road with genuinely useful services and a devoted slashbot following..

    1. Re:You, sir, must have balls of brass... by tkjtkj · · Score: 1

      you flatter me ;)

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  57. this just in... by The+Bubble · · Score: 1

    Sources say that the atmospheric pressure around the Google campus spiked severely this morning, causing the instantaneous implosion of more than 80% of the staff. Nearly all Google interns perished.

    Rumors surrounding the event hint that the tragedy was the result of a bug in Google's new Weather Control System, currently in beta [weather.google.com].

    Strangely, this story failed to make the front page of a popular online news forum due to their recent boycotting of Google news.

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  58. Weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My U.S. News section just invaded my Iraq News section...

  59. Can you title your page? by mntgomery · · Score: 3, Funny

    If so, you can just add keywords "Google", "Apple" and "Linux" and call it Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Can you title your page? by rzebram · · Score: 1

      Don't say stuff like that, next thing you know, we'll have duplicates of the exact same article from hundreds of different websites. Can you imagine the chaos?

  60. Re:Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship by value_added · · Score: 1

    What's even funnier (or sadder, depending on your point of view) is that the news Google presents for countries other than the US looks pretty much the same as the new for the US.

    I trust the "infodel" construct wasn't a typo.

  61. Google ads? by TuringTest · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did someone read the title as "Google Ads new personalization"? I was already thinking that I could personalize the ads that I could get from Google...

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  62. Well, Google does it RIGHT. by dep01 · · Score: 1

    Google makes really cool enhancements that are REALLY intuitive. Yahoo might let you customize, but in such a linear way. Google is really good at what they do.

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  63. Top Stories section by Therlin · · Score: 1

    I wish it'd let me remove the Top Stories section or send it somewhere else. I rather have the news that interest me the most (custom searches and entertainment) at the top. I don't care about what's going on in Lebanon or some killing in Chicago.

  64. Well done, Google. by dep01 · · Score: 1
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  65. Is Google still Google? by plasticmillion · · Score: 4, Insightful
    When I saw this story my initial reaction was to jump for joy. I'm an avid Google News user particularly because it's so "Googleized"; i.e. they use statistical methods to cluster stories together and figure out which ones to display where and in what order. Others may do this as well, but Google News does an exceptionally good job.

    So when I saw that they had added personalization, I assumed it was going to be something along the same lines, something that does my thinking FOR me, thank you very much. For example, wouldn't it be cool for the news page to adapt organically in response to stories you click on? So it would realize that I'm a golf fan (yeah, yeah, I'm even dorkier than the average /. user) and stop displaying all those NFL and hockey stories in the Sports section that I couldn't care less about.

    Instead, we get the same basic layout customization and keyword matching that Yahoo has had for years (as many others have pointed out). I scratched my head for a few minutes about keywords I could use, but frankly my tastes are a bit too subtle to sum up in this way.

    This could be a real story, but only if Google works a little of their statistical magic instead of taking a me-too approach.

    1. Re:Is Google still Google? by glinden · · Score: 1
      • wouldn't it be cool for the news page to adapt organically in response to stories you click on?

      Have you seen Findory.com? That's exactly what it does.

      It's a personalized news site. It learns from what you read and builds a personalized front page. Click on a few stories about golf, go back to the Findory front page, and Findory will show you articles related to golf.

      [Disclaimer: I work at Findory.]
    2. Re:Is Google still Google? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get NFL and Hockey stories? Man, I must be doing something wrong, because I always get friggin' Soccer stories. I'm an American, I don't care about no friggin' soccer.

    3. Re:Is Google still Google? by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      I'm an American, I don't care about no friggin' soccer.

      I'm an American, too. What is soccer?

    4. Re:Is Google still Google? by parcifal · · Score: 1

      Well, I don't know if it will meet your needs or not, but Google News does offer you the ability to have your own news driven by a search term. Its right there in the layout screen under custom searches.

  66. Slashdot . . . . by scarolan · · Score: 1

    News (about Google) for nerds, stuff (about Google) that matters . . .

    Slashdotters seem to get a collective hard-on every time Google blows it's nose.

  67. So? by Shant3030 · · Score: 1

    Whats the point? They still give me crappy sports stories on English Soccer and Indian cricket.

    Let me customize where I get the news from, then I'll be happy. Choosing how many stories I'd want to display just isn't enough.

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  68. Doesn't work AT ALL by doublem · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't bother. I tried. All you get are stories about Jacko and guys with similar interests.

    I added categories for "Heidi Fleiss", "Anna Nicole Smith" and "Tonya Harding" which accomplishes the same thing I'd LIKE a "Porn" category to accomplish, but avoids nasty topics that are very bad for my libido.

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  69. No more cricket news by Momoru · · Score: 1

    The best part about this feature is maybe finally my front sports page for Yahoo will have American sports instead of Cricket, Euro league soccer, and whatever random sports are played elsewhere in the world that for some reason come up in the US version of the news portal. I remember the day after the Red Sox won the world series, it wasnt even on the front page cuz Indonesia beat India in a cricket match or something.

    1. Re:No more cricket news by dotslasher_sri · · Score: 1

      dude..what are you talking about..Indonesia doesnt have a national cricket team and it sure didnt beat india. may be you mean some other game?

    2. Re:No more cricket news by Momoru · · Score: 1

      sorry, i think i was thinking of when Bangladesh played India? It was some southeast asian team. As you may notice from my original post, i'm not a cricket fan.

    3. Re:No more cricket news by dotslasher_sri · · Score: 1

      Yea it must be bangladesh. and yea we lost to them :( one time.

  70. Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Google is clever enough to sniff the user-agent

    Dear god, why are there people still thanking web developers for user-agent sniffing?

  71. BBC by beforewisdom · · Score: 1
    I used to love google news.

    I found the online format nicer then other news sites and a LOT nicer then dealing with a newspaper.

    Then I read the articles on slashdot about Google having a built in political bias as to which sources show up on google news and Google censoring itself on their Chinese site at the request of the government of the PRC.

    I also noticed that with American news outlets that South America does not exist and other countries only exist when they have direct dealings with the US ( and sometimes not even then )

    I decided that I wanted real news, online news, and news from a more trustworthy source. Goodbye google news.

    Most people around the world already know about this, but for my fellow Americans who are also disgusted with American news sources I invite you to check out the BBC news site.

    It is free, convenient, online, thorough, and they actually know English grammar which is not always the case for the American sources that end up on Google news:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/

  72. ....and thats bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You know - now and then I dont mind Targeted Advertising when it works, and if I have selected a bunch of news items relating to say - technology, I wouldnt mind non-obtrusive technology related ads.

    If I have keywords relating to ASP.NET, C#, XML, I wouldnt mind seeing an ad for books relating to those, I may just find it useful.

    When banners/etc are relevant to the site I'm on and find them useful - I dont mind. Theres been more than once I've clicked on a banner on SlashDot.org or codeproject.com or a few other sites, becuase they are advertising products that *gasp* actually do interest me, and they are non-obtrusive enough that I dont mind that they are there even if its a product I have zero interest in

  73. Hmm... by Cooler1011 · · Score: 0

    MyGoogle.com

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  74. Been there; done that. by HoneyBeeSpace · · Score: 1

    It's been done years ago here

  75. God I hope there's a "No Michael Jackson" button. by mattsouthworth · · Score: 1

    I've stopped reading cnn.com for that reason.

  76. Any even more interesting new google feature... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In beta still, but pretty neat. A 'search preview'...

    http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1

    jack

  77. Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option by costas · · Score: 1

    Shameless plug ahead: my newsbot (which predates Google News BTW), has a text version which is not only geared for thin devices (PDAs/phones) but also links to news article versions that are also lightweight. Try it out.

  78. It could have been even worse... by Millennium · · Score: 1

    At least they recognize that the retarded second and hitherto-unknown brother actually is retarded and hitherto-unknown. We could have been stuck with a different-looking but intellectually-identical actor -I mean android- for the next several years.

  79. Its a little more than that. by emseabrown · · Score: 1

    having SBC dsl gives you access to certain premium yahoo services, (2g email, 250mg for up to 10 sub accounts, supersized briefcase, and some other junk I don't remember)

  80. Who says the age of free stuff is over? by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just a few years ago, customized news was supposed to be one of the much-hyped big-money profit opportunities of the Internet, and... I'm trying to recall the names of some of the companies pursuing it as a business model... Individual?

    The theory was that busy executives with no time to read the whole Wall Street Journal and no interest in serendipitous discovery of significant news items would gladly pay to get the news filtered so that they only saw items in the preselected categories of interest.

    Yep, Individual.com still exists and appears to be operating on a business model of free-as-in-beer.

    May the potlatch continue!

  81. How about a 'no news on xx' option? by OS24Ever · · Score: 1

    I'd really like to not see the freak shot of the day with the latest Michael Jackson story. The guy goobs me out and if I could say 'if story about Michael Jackson then don't display' that'd be nice.

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  82. I liked this better the first time I saw it.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... when it was called Yahoo! News. /send royalty check to David Spade

  83. Re:Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship by MasterOfUniverse · · Score: 1

    instead of doing all that...why not just watch foxnews?

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  84. Not as many... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

    Boobie links as fark.com

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  85. So who needs /. now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3 minutes with this customizable interface will deliver anything you would ever want to see on /. while leaving out all the cruft.

  86. Re:Being a mobile user I love the text only option by DroogNyc · · Score: 1

    I'd like the google toolbar to allow me to take bookmarks with me on the road... I have to use both google and Yahoo toolbars to to this (the only feature that keeps me using Yahoo!)

  87. God I hope there's a "No Michael Jackson" button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please upgrade parent as "Insightfull".

  88. text option is great, but not customized by Jafa · · Score: 1

    I agree, I've always used the text option on all of my computers. I've always been for more information and less crap on a page. (The same with slashdot- haven't seen the full blown puke green layout in 5 or 6 years.)

    The problem so far is that after you customize the news, it's not custom on the text page. They could let you choose which headings to view and the number of stories in each heading. That would be cool.

    More function, less form.

    J

  89. Perhaps.... by LazyEmc2 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps this is on /. because it is news. It is on /. because it just happened. Therefore /. is providing us with information that some of us may not have known. THAT is why it is mentioned...NOT because Google is almighty and /. is a bunch of fanboys. I for one thank them for pointing it out, because I had not noticed the new feature. Hell, I don't know what you guys would do if they didn't post any Google articles for you to bitch about.

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  90. Google's Web Development Technologies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know what Google uses to develop their web services? (eg. Gmail, News personalization, etc.)

    PHP/MySQL?
    J2EE/Oracle?

    I'd really like to know!

  91. They let you customize other site too by jeillah · · Score: 1

    try this:

    http://sites.gizoogle.com/?url=http://slashdot.o rg /

  92. Cool beans by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

    Very neat stuff -- I'd been hoping that they'd do something like this for a while. I've gotten rid of the usual "Entertainment" and "Sports" categories, shrunk the "Health" and "Business" categories, and added categories for "Brain," "Robotic," and "Space."

    The result (as if anybody is interested):

    http://news.google.com/news?ned=:ePkh8BM9E0KxIwNiB yvQZAMmEJUEpDi1WIMLEpNTDVhATKeixMw8IJNbiz0oPym_JDP ZgAXmAAC6Eg4M

  93. Google News is Sweet by zentogo · · Score: 1

    This rocks. I created my own categories with keywords and its very sweet. Sorry maybe it is just me but I have to have a way to reduce the amount of info I go through everyday. Instead of complaining or asking why---Good Job Google

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  94. Why? by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 0

    What's wrong with it?

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  95. Ummm... by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 0

    Sorry?

    2005 - 1997 = 8 years.

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  96. Google Sports news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if they allow more nationalized filtering of sports headlines. Nothing quite like going to news.google.com, in the Sports section, and there are maybe 3 headlines for the upcoming Superbowl, and 15 or more headlines for the latest soccer gossip and happenings, 5 for the latest cricket test match, etc.

    It would be as equally absurd for a European visitor to get the US' ESPN website. "Football? NASCAR? Where's UEFL? Where's F1? Where's cycling?"

  97. Re:Customize news.google.com for your dictatorship by fingerfucker · · Score: 1

    Why the fuck was this modded 'Funny'??!!

    Yeah, Slashdot, yeah, bend over for Google, spread those cheeks for them. Some more. There you go....

  98. Sports be gone by alex_guy_CA · · Score: 1

    I just deleted the sports section and it felt GOOD.

  99. Not a big deal by GoogleAdvisor · · Score: 1

    I really don't see this news page customization feature as any indication that Google is starting to lean towards Yahoo! style portalization. They have made it pretty clear that they aren't into the portal business, or interested in creating a fully personalized page like My Yahoo! I think it's a simple user-friendly addition to Google News, and nothing more. I'll start getting worried when you can add news and weather to Google's homepage. Get some useful information about Google here: Google Advisor

  100. Oooh by GregNorc · · Score: 1

    Now I can have a seperate section for any news related to michael jackson... sweet. Nothing like hearing about Mikey's latest antics to brighten your day.