Actually, the mariah carey video sample was EBN (emergency broadcast network)'s original idea, in the mid 90's.
Meat Beat Manifesto is quite amazing. I saw them in 1992 with 808 State and have been a huge fan ever since. Their recent tour (the one you're referring to) was also excellent; though I wouldn't by any stretch call that a laptop show - they had piles of gear; video samplers, laptops, keyboards, triggers...
"Why do people like you care? If the belief bothers you so much, here's a novel idea.... *ignore* it."
-->Why not ignore it? Most Atheists realize that "ignoring" christianity would be:
- to allow them to preach intelligent design - or worse, the fairy tale called creationism - in schools where only teaching science should be. - to allow their moral principles to be set as law. - to condone the flagrant abuses of this planet's environment under the belief that "God gave it to us to do as we please". - to permit the overuse of percieved renewable but actually non-renewable resources such as oil due to an unfounded belief that the earth is merely 6,000 years old, therefore oil is constantly being generated. - to encourage the persecution of people who do not share their moral imperatives and beliefs, starting immediately with gays and if history is any example, proceeding to middle easterners and blacks.
And finally, to restrict freedoms in accordance with the all of the above.
No, I cannot simply "ignore" the christians and hope that they will go away. They spend altogether too much money on politicians to ensure that they do not.
"In particular, no one from Mozilla or Apache or MySQL have taken my management out for dinner lately. None of the reps from PHP or Python or Perl have flown them to Seattle. Hell, you'd think the guys at the Free Software Foundation would at least buy my boss a beer to explain the advantages of emacs over vi. "
"It's clear, the Wii is a phonominon, like no other we've seen in videogame history."
-->Actually, I -vividly- remember family parties when the atari came out. Young and old alike gathered around to play pacman, asteroids, space invaders. The NES kind of became too complex for people to immediately pick up - too many buttons for just anyone to get into a game. The wii is definitely a return to the place that an Atari had in the joe public household; intuitive controls making for a much more accessible game.
I think you're confusing 3D with the point of view. You're comparing third-person strategy games with first-person shooters.
If anything, in the shooter category, 3D has MORE than extended the verbs for a shooter - think quake versus berzerk. In dimension alone, you have now left, right, up, down, and forward, backward - in 2d that's just l,r,u,d. Then we add Jump. We add fall. Climb. Freelook (!!).
In the strategy genre, 3D or 2.5D has added MANY new verbs. Including, but not limited to, strategies using high ground. Walls. Flight. Line of sight.
No, we haven't wasted power on 3D where it could be used on more actions. There's just so many actions to take place before the game is awash in 'things to do' and not enough 'things to enjoy'. Micromanagement in a 3D First Person Shooter is a BAD thing.
Hey, good luck with the outsourcing. My company tried china, india, and local shops. All were varying degrees of misery.
I'm not preaching for beauracracy... nor against 'small, nimble groups', but if you think that you can write business systems that have any dependencies without tangible communication efforts, you don't even understand enough about 'overhead' to preach against it. Overhead includes rewrites, includes support, troubleshooting, and other development time after delivery. Again, I question your experience with complex systems. A few developers may be able to develop lots of complex systems, no doubt, but what happens when one quits? What happens when you need more man-hours? By your methods or mine, development still takes man-hours, and the more developers you have to throw at a problem, the need for documented specs increases.
When you add the word "enterprise" to your resume, look me up. "Your" clearly not in my league if you think that specifications are unnecessary. Overhead from meetings is drastically smaller than the overhead of constant rewrites because developer X doesn't understand the constraints of application Y, or the learning curve for new developer Z to figure out your undocumented, un-spec'd applications.
The enterprise I develop for takes developers a good two years just to -begin- to understand some of the workflows and business logic. Simple solutions to complex problems? Not in anything larger than a boxed solution with a SOHO label. You can come on board almost any company with an in-house development shop knowing quoting, invoicing, accounting, CRM, ERP, inventory management, customer information systems, vendor interfaces, and still be a long way away from having any idea what the business logic actually is.
Outsource to India? Businesses like the one I'm in (read: not even a billion dollar company) can't even communicate their requirements in house without specs that fill binders worth of information - and that's for developers that concievably can walk over to the employee who will be doing the actual work on the software and ask them about workflow and business rules. You can't outsource any real business with the methods you describe and expect to get 'pretty damned good code'. Without significant time researching requirements, dependencies, and the like you are blind.
Take for example a construction company. A developer might work on a quoting system while another works on a vendor management system. Yet another might work on a set of tools to manage subcontractors. Let's assume for sake of argument that I can rattle off another twenty somewhat interdependant systems, each handled by a single developer (think CRM, ERP, the list goes on). Are you to honestly try to tell me that each developer would understand every facet of each of those systems, so that when dependencies arise, they just -know- what everyone is working on?
Without communication, meetings, specifications... as you propose... I find that laughable, at best.
AI is -not- HUMAN intelligence... it is -artificial- intelligence. It doesn't have to think like a human, it merely has to process and output data in such a way as to demonstrate intelligence.
If we were to judge solutions based solely on the word of two-or-more IT consultants, we would have "enterprise solutions" with MS-ACCESS backends, with a "robust" monthly backup to.TXT files on floppy.
Seriously, the holes in this article are big enough to park a datacenter full of Cisco hardware in.
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Tin foil hat... check! Tupperware shirt... check! Zip-lock underwear... check!
In Soviet Russia, government library measures you!
Actually, the mariah carey video sample was EBN (emergency broadcast network)'s original idea, in the mid 90's. Meat Beat Manifesto is quite amazing. I saw them in 1992 with 808 State and have been a huge fan ever since. Their recent tour (the one you're referring to) was also excellent; though I wouldn't by any stretch call that a laptop show - they had piles of gear; video samplers, laptops, keyboards, triggers...
"Why do people like you care? If the belief bothers you so much, here's a novel idea.... *ignore* it."
-->Why not ignore it? Most Atheists realize that "ignoring" christianity would be:
- to allow them to preach intelligent design - or worse, the fairy tale called creationism - in schools where only teaching science should be.
- to allow their moral principles to be set as law.
- to condone the flagrant abuses of this planet's environment under the belief that "God gave it to us to do as we please".
- to permit the overuse of percieved renewable but actually non-renewable resources such as oil due to an unfounded belief that the earth is merely 6,000 years old, therefore oil is constantly being generated.
- to encourage the persecution of people who do not share their moral imperatives and beliefs, starting immediately with gays and if history is any example, proceeding to middle easterners and blacks.
And finally, to restrict freedoms in accordance with the all of the above.
No, I cannot simply "ignore" the christians and hope that they will go away. They spend altogether too much money on politicians to ensure that they do not.
In Soviet Russia, birds watch you
Arguably, many gamers would be perfectly happy playing a room full of AI players than have to deal with the garbage inherent in online play.
"In particular, no one from Mozilla or Apache or MySQL have taken my management out for dinner lately. None of the reps from PHP or Python or Perl have flown them to Seattle. Hell, you'd think the guys at the Free Software Foundation would at least buy my boss a beer to explain the advantages of emacs over vi. "
MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL.
"It's clear, the Wii is a phonominon, like no other we've seen in videogame history." -->Actually, I -vividly- remember family parties when the atari came out. Young and old alike gathered around to play pacman, asteroids, space invaders. The NES kind of became too complex for people to immediately pick up - too many buttons for just anyone to get into a game. The wii is definitely a return to the place that an Atari had in the joe public household; intuitive controls making for a much more accessible game.
I think you're confusing 3D with the point of view. You're comparing third-person strategy games with first-person shooters. If anything, in the shooter category, 3D has MORE than extended the verbs for a shooter - think quake versus berzerk. In dimension alone, you have now left, right, up, down, and forward, backward - in 2d that's just l,r,u,d. Then we add Jump. We add fall. Climb. Freelook (!!). In the strategy genre, 3D or 2.5D has added MANY new verbs. Including, but not limited to, strategies using high ground. Walls. Flight. Line of sight. No, we haven't wasted power on 3D where it could be used on more actions. There's just so many actions to take place before the game is awash in 'things to do' and not enough 'things to enjoy'. Micromanagement in a 3D First Person Shooter is a BAD thing.
They'd... make armies of half-man, half-flies?
Or worse, luddites gain access to it and send back something to stop it.
You should be even lower than that... you screwed up the quote.
Definitely Wapner.
Axis of Evil, Axis of Rotation, THEY ALL MUST GO!
Find a couple of shiny rocks?
Yes, but this one goes to ELEVEN.
Hey, good luck with the outsourcing. My company tried china, india, and local shops. All were varying degrees of misery. I'm not preaching for beauracracy... nor against 'small, nimble groups', but if you think that you can write business systems that have any dependencies without tangible communication efforts, you don't even understand enough about 'overhead' to preach against it. Overhead includes rewrites, includes support, troubleshooting, and other development time after delivery. Again, I question your experience with complex systems. A few developers may be able to develop lots of complex systems, no doubt, but what happens when one quits? What happens when you need more man-hours? By your methods or mine, development still takes man-hours, and the more developers you have to throw at a problem, the need for documented specs increases.
When you add the word "enterprise" to your resume, look me up. "Your" clearly not in my league if you think that specifications are unnecessary. Overhead from meetings is drastically smaller than the overhead of constant rewrites because developer X doesn't understand the constraints of application Y, or the learning curve for new developer Z to figure out your undocumented, un-spec'd applications.
The enterprise I develop for takes developers a good two years just to -begin- to understand some of the workflows and business logic. Simple solutions to complex problems? Not in anything larger than a boxed solution with a SOHO label. You can come on board almost any company with an in-house development shop knowing quoting, invoicing, accounting, CRM, ERP, inventory management, customer information systems, vendor interfaces, and still be a long way away from having any idea what the business logic actually is.
Outsource to India? Businesses like the one I'm in (read: not even a billion dollar company) can't even communicate their requirements in house without specs that fill binders worth of information - and that's for developers that concievably can walk over to the employee who will be doing the actual work on the software and ask them about workflow and business rules. You can't outsource any real business with the methods you describe and expect to get 'pretty damned good code'. Without significant time researching requirements, dependencies, and the like you are blind.
Take for example a construction company. A developer might work on a quoting system while another works on a vendor management system. Yet another might work on a set of tools to manage subcontractors. Let's assume for sake of argument that I can rattle off another twenty somewhat interdependant systems, each handled by a single developer (think CRM, ERP, the list goes on). Are you to honestly try to tell me that each developer would understand every facet of each of those systems, so that when dependencies arise, they just -know- what everyone is working on?
Without communication, meetings, specifications... as you propose... I find that laughable, at best.
No. Sorry, but no.
Unless your developers know every facet of every system, your approach is inherently flawed.
Or you don't have complex systems.
AI is -not- HUMAN intelligence... it is -artificial- intelligence. It doesn't have to think like a human, it merely has to process and output data in such a way as to demonstrate intelligence.
You'll be OK with a foil hat...
Two unknown consultants decide that Cisco sucks?
.TXT files on floppy.
If we were to judge solutions based solely on the word of two-or-more IT consultants, we would have "enterprise solutions" with MS-ACCESS backends, with a "robust" monthly backup to
Seriously, the holes in this article are big enough to park a datacenter full of Cisco hardware in.
Doesn't matter... MANY dj-quality CD decks these days have scratching ability, and then there's always Final Scratch.
But it sure does give us single-malt drinkers a place to pour all that crappy Jack Daniels swill...