Does anyone have the whole external tank video? I mean from the launch to the { NO CARRIER } point. I know it exists since it's on the subscriber-only section of spaceflightnow, but I haven't found it anywhere else yet.
The realplayer stream failed on me many minutes before the launch. I'm in Europe, I suppose it depends on the place where you are, since they were using the Akamai network for the RP streams. As for yahoo, I couldn't even connect, but I thought it could have been an incompatibility with Firefox. Didn't try with IE though, so I don't know. Anyway, I managed to watch the launch on CNN:)
I tried to watch this stream, but as the hour of the launch got closer, it got TOO slow. Guess the akamai and yahoo servers weren't enough to cope with the load. In my firewall, I noticed that it was trying to communicate with only 2 different servers, at least one of them was in Europe (where I am). So maybe in other places it was usable, I don't know...
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected (x) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks (x) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it ( ) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it (x) The police will not put up with it (x) Requires too much cooperation from spammers ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists (x) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(x) Laws expressly prohibiting it ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email (x) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses (x) Asshats (x) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches ( ) Extreme profitability of spam (x) Joe jobs and/or identity theft (x) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation ( ) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually ( ) Sending email should be free ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses (x) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome ( ) I don't want the government reading my email (x) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. (x) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
I think slashdot has found the perfect Flamebait story... Start your flamers in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....
Anyway, do you guys think that this may make other spammers stop and think about their activity?
Now for a question - is there an easy way of getting some statistics (in the next few days) which show if this happening has any impact on the quantity of spam?
Yeah, but this time they have an excuse - "Microsoft blogger Robert Scoble claims the site may not perform at full capacity until Monday."
I propose that we resubmit this story to/. again on Monday, something like "virtual earth now going at full capacity! Let's see if it can handle the load:)"...
The thing that amazes me is - such a big ship and they have such big problems with a sensor! A freaking sensor!
Then again, I'm a programmer so I do know that the simplest things are often the ones which cause more problems... But it's still disturbing that a sensor is giving so much trouble. Makes one wonder how many problems there could be in the whole ship!
Sure this might annoy the spammers, but it's also going to cause problems for anyone unfortunate enough to be sharing a network/webhost/isp with a spammer.
What kind of problems? The same exact problems that spammers cause when they send gazillions of emails? If those ISP's aren't worried about that, I see no reason for them to worry about this. After all, this ISN'T one of those DOS attacks which cause a lot of traffic...
(x) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
What? No it doesn't.
(x) Laws expressly prohibiting it
Couldn't it be called self-defense?
(x) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
(This time the spammers will be doing the filtering, and that will be quite easy for them.)
Cool! Let THEM start sweating around trying to protect their sites for once. How cool is having a spammer deal with the same kind of shit that they spread around?
(x) Extreme profitability of spam
That doesn't mean this can reduce their profits, which is always good.
(x) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
That's just an opinion, not a fact, at least in this particular case.
Yep, after your parent replied I read it again and saw I had missed the "infinite" part, sorry. It's just that I've never seen the ~ notation used like that, only in contexts such as:
x ~= 8 which (at least here) usually means that x is approximately 8.
Does anyone have the whole external tank video? I mean from the launch to the { NO CARRIER } point. I know it exists since it's on the subscriber-only section of spaceflightnow, but I haven't found it anywhere else yet.
For me, that's something so obvious that I can't blame anyone for implementing it, nor can I attribute it to copying ideas...
That's what he meant...
The realplayer stream failed on me many minutes before the launch. I'm in Europe, I suppose it depends on the place where you are, since they were using the Akamai network for the RP streams. As for yahoo, I couldn't even connect, but I thought it could have been an incompatibility with Firefox. Didn't try with IE though, so I don't know. Anyway, I managed to watch the launch on CNN :)
I tried to watch this stream, but as the hour of the launch got closer, it got TOO slow. Guess the akamai and yahoo servers weren't enough to cope with the load. In my firewall, I noticed that it was trying to communicate with only 2 different servers, at least one of them was in Europe (where I am). So maybe in other places it was usable, I don't know...
Fortunately, I managed to watch it on TV (CNN)...
Don't be an idiot, please.
Why don't you do it yourself? ;)
:)
And if possible put the replies here
Noticed it too, seems I was not the only one :)
Priceless :)
Too bad both links point to the same site, so no CNET news.
Here it is.
First post?
At least he could have quoted the whole sentence instead of eliminating an important part of it...
Your action advocates a
( ) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (x) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(x) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
(x) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
(x) The police will not put up with it
(x) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
(x) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(x) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
(x) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
(x) Asshats
(x) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
(x) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(x) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
(x) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
(x) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
(x) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
Why must we be animals?
Ummm... because we are?
I think slashdot has found the perfect Flamebait story... Start your flamers in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ....
Anyway, do you guys think that this may make other spammers stop and think about their activity?
Now for a question - is there an easy way of getting some statistics (in the next few days) which show if this happening has any impact on the quantity of spam?
The perfect anti-R.I.P. is, surprisingly R.I.P. - Rest in Pieces.
For people like me who aren't subscribers, that old article is here.
Yeah, but this time they have an excuse - "Microsoft blogger Robert Scoble claims the site may not perform at full capacity until Monday."
/. again on Monday, something like "virtual earth now going at full capacity! Let's see if it can handle the load :)"...
I propose that we resubmit this story to
Google beta launched! New search engine which promises to organized the world's information neatly. You can find it here.
The thing that amazes me is - such a big ship and they have such big problems with a sensor! A freaking sensor!
Then again, I'm a programmer so I do know that the simplest things are often the ones which cause more problems... But it's still disturbing that a sensor is giving so much trouble. Makes one wonder how many problems there could be in the whole ship!
Sure this might annoy the spammers, but it's also going to cause problems for anyone unfortunate enough to be sharing a network/webhost/isp with a spammer.
What kind of problems? The same exact problems that spammers cause when they send gazillions of emails? If those ISP's aren't worried about that, I see no reason for them to worry about this. After all, this ISN'T one of those DOS attacks which cause a lot of traffic...
This:
That doesn't mean this can reduce their profits, which is always good.
Should obviously have been written as:
That doesn't mean this CAN'T reduce their profits, which is always good.
What? No it doesn't.
Couldn't it be called self-defense?
Cool! Let THEM start sweating around trying to protect their sites for once. How cool is having a spammer deal with the same kind of shit that they spread around?
That doesn't mean this can reduce their profits, which is always good.
That's just an opinion, not a fact, at least in this particular case.
But it might not too. Some phones have fixed cords.
OK, what if some pirate put data you don't even get to know about in your computer?
Yep, after your parent replied I read it again and saw I had missed the "infinite" part, sorry. It's just that I've never seen the ~ notation used like that, only in contexts such as:
x ~= 8 which (at least here) usually means that x is approximately 8.