Exactly, not to name the other digital media players that play MP3 (the defacto standard). I do not own the money to buy an iPod (and I find it quite overprized), but I bought an MP3 player which was like $80.
As for buying music?, after buying music in here I have not seen any other store that gives me the an approximatley so good service.
Man, Personally I think one of the things that REALLY need some kind of bounty backup are the DOCUMENTATION projects... I mean, if you look at KDE help (the one that is embedded in the system) it Really Sucks(tm).
And I am not talking only about Help Files, I am talking about Analysis and Design documents (anyone care to say what is the average of the OSS projects that have a reasonably good Requirments Document Specification or Design Specification Document.
As a software engineer I know those are one of the things programmers really do not like to do... but they are really necessary and helpful.
hehe, this is something I was thinking about all this new trend to make prequels of movies from the past... It seems that in some way the people from the movies, their technology and overall infraestructure became worse over time, after you see Batman Forever (which thime is before the original batman) custome, you wonder what happened to him after... also with Starwars, you see the first (or last 3...) movies and then you see Episode 1, and 2 and the technology is sooo darn cool! (robots, etc) and you ask, what happened??.
I think this sucks, and it is caused by the urge of film houses to get the last pennie possible from a franchise... people had run out of ideas, so just get an old idea and exploit it again...
And that may be the way:). I was suprised the other day I was looking for something in Google and suddenly I got into this page. They have thought about enterprise appliances, it would be nice to have a review of this hardware/services.
As for mail I think it is not really worth to buy a "really good" email system for inhouse use. Why? well, usually normal workers will be quite happy with their current email client, or forwarding to their preffered service and being google main buisness information Searching (or managing if you like) the only use for this would be if an Admin could look for certain information inside themail of all the workers.
God, I would really hate to work in a company with such politics =oS
Why not?, maybe it is not the "best thing" to do (as may be buying new chairs and desks for the schools) but it is certainly better than giving money to a foreign company.
What will you win if you give the money to a company? they will continue to develop their product and their current marketing strategy, (I am trying to be as even as I can, so no names); also, as I stated before, the money will end OUT of UK.
Instead if you fund OSS projects you may promote OSS development within your country for the Goverment.
Look, I see it this way, OSS is not for everyone, comercial companies may wish to spend in propietary software. But for goverment agencies, I think is a kind of duty to use OSS (what I mean is BSD, MIT, GPL or any of those kind of licenses) because that software is property (in some way) of the people, so if everyone contribute fairly with their taxes, why can't you give them "more" for their money?.
It is like a road, I am expected to be able to drive on the roads that I pay with my taxes.
You may think it is funny but my dad asked me to install that Linúx (note the spanish accent not properly situated) because he wanted that Marbles game, uh? I think it was a good chance to give him a liitle "more", so, because I know he likes also the Mahjong game, once I installed Mandrake 10 in one of his computers I added that game.
I put a OpenOffice, Firefox and the games icons in the desktop. Them computer was one of the 2 that he has in his office, he uses the first one for his main work (Windows XP) and the second one is used by some of his pupils (he is a researcher) when they need something, or if he needs to do something else while his main computer is processing.
Now, to my surprise, after 2 weeks, he suddenly mailed me a presentation with some cool information, but it was an SXI file. Then I replied his mail and asked, why is the file SXI? and he told me he started using this OpenOffice and he found it good, and also, told me how angry he was at me because I installed the Mahjong game, which got him very addicted =oP hehe. He was already using Firefox on Windows (he is one of the only 3 people I know to had bought the Netscape Navitagor... yup, with CD, Manual and everything!) and anther program called JabRef, so it was quite easy for him to adapt to Linux...
Now, he also told me he tried to use the Linux Excel (yes... that how he wrote, he was meaning OpenOffice Calc) but he was not able to do one or two things he does with Excel (he does not uses macros so it has nothing to do with VBA).
Well, sorry to go offtopic, but I think hell yeah!, games is a great selling point for selling games, and MOSTLY for the End User, who wants to use her computer to do work. I remember a study that said something about goverment workers playing Solitaire a lot!
As for the "best selling" games, do not worry, the people we are talking about do not care about these games (usually it is their kids who care) or, if they care, they usually buy an Xbox,PS2 or GC.
From my point of view, schools must use OSS because but they should pay (or donate) money for the used software.
Why? someone else stated, school's money comes from our Taxes, and OSS is available to everyone or it is property of "everyone" (of course copyright remains to the author, etc, etc.) so our money taxes is going to fund something that is for THE PEOPLE and not for an company.
Even worse, if people in UK buy a software from Microsoft then the money they are using (money from Taxes) is going to US, instead, if they pay or donate money to a OSS then this money will go directly to imporove this project.
Hell, they could even donate money to fund Open projects in the UK!
Any data recovery agent can recover an encrypted file when a user's private key fails to decrypt the file.
To recover an encrypted file
1. Log on to a computer that has access to the user's profile; for example, a computer that has a designated recovery console or a recovery key on removable media such as a floppy disk. You might log on at the user's computer or the user might have a roaming profile.
2. Locate the encrypted file. For example, the user might have made a backup of the file by using Backup or sent the file to a WebDAV Web folder.
3. Decrypt the file by using either the cipher command or My Computer. This will make the file available to the user.
For more information about decrypting files, see "Working with Encryption and Decryption" earlier in this chapter.
As for corrupted encripted files, well, I think it is almost impossible for an encripted file to be restored if it is corrupted, unless it has some kind of recovery record overhead...
Of course, I would better opt out for an standard open cyphering method.
Well, sure, that's the catch to "Free Software": the consultant fees to enable you to use it even partially productively. Of course that's a business opportunity for some,
I agree with you, I just posted to show you there IS an alternative, in fact I think the idea I stated in my previous message has not been developed, well, only in migration of the Operating System itself (Windows->Linux), but as the thread shows there is indeed a migration cost for production software (aka office suites).
but for the rest of us it's an added expense, a time sink, and a distraction from our primary jobs.
Of course, as I stated in my previous post (in a slightly exaggerated way btw) you would only want to "hire" me if you had some reasons to migrate from your current platform (maybe the reasons I give are a bit geekish-zealot) and, the reason why you would "hire me" is to avoid being distracted from the migration process (at least minimize the distraction).
Now, an argument often made for FOSS is that you don't have to walk on the upgrade treadmill if you don't want to. [...] they're still using Office 97. If it works for them, why upgrade?
Again, I agree, actually I think it is the same for both sides, why upgrade if you can do what you need to do with the current software, and you dominate the current version? Of course you do not need to!, This remind me of one post I read sometime ago here, they asked: Why do you think NASA is using software that is like 20 or 30 years old? because it is tested, it works FOR THEM and it does what it has to do. So unless there is a real reason (a feature you desperately need etc) you should not be FORCED to migrate, and this is where the Marketing of companies like MS comes in, they try to push you to upgrade.
And, as you told, OpenOffice and other free software may also push you to upgrade, but, here you have a slight difference, in the first you have a $300 cost for licensing, and in the second you do not have a cost at all!, From my point of view, when people talk about TCO for migrating from proprietary to OSS and they conclude that it is really expensive to migrate to OSS it is not fair.
If you migrate from MSOffice 97 to MSoffice 2003 how much would it be?? I do not know the cost of the licenses, but my guess is like $150 each upgrade license, maybe I am wrong, and of course you would not have to spend money in learning. Likewise if you migrate from OpenOffice 1.0 to OpenOffice 2.0 , how much would it cost? $0 per license, and also how much would it cost in learning? also nothing as it is the equivalent upgrade from MSOffice 97 to 2003 (read equivalent as the same base technology/structure with upgrades and improvements).
So, people like to point out the cost of migrating from MSOffice to OpenOffice, and they state the costs of learning, but, what about the other way? OO -> MSOffice, you would have to pay the licenses + the courses.
Now, don't get me wrong, OO is a great idea in theory. A free office suite for which you can make your own custom extensions, or re-write completely if you are so inclined, would be a very handy thing to have. However, those of us that use these things as tools want, more than anything, a stable production environment. A whole scale switch to another only partially (at best) compatible application suite with limited market penetration does not meet this criteria, no matter how modest the sums are.
I think the basic concern here is about what do you started to use, if a company bases all his office technology in OO (spreadsheets, presentations, macros, databases, etc) then they will surely have a hard time migrating to MS Office (+ the Licenses costs) so it is quite similar to some company migrating to OO, so as you said, OpenOffice is a great software, for me, it is really good for people that is just starting to get into computing or people that use computer to create documents and do not require to comply with any standard (students, teachers, etc).
Where you see a wall I see a buisness oportunity. When you are tired of buying and rebuying MS Licenses or when the next MS Office.NET Avalon comes with a minimal Windows Longhorn requeriments, and you get so pissed off, pllease, remember me and send me an email (xtracto@linuxmail.org).
I will charge you a modest sum to migrate your documents/spreadsheets/etc from MS Office to Windows.
AAAAnnnd, I also offer you a full course of OpenOffice scripting, so you can extend your macros!
Just before clicking in the "here" link... I saw that the URL was from Microsoft... come one!, they surely won't say that the RedHat box was better!!
Now, It would be interesting to see a benchmark commisioned by RedHat... would it be all the contrary?? (RedHat beats by 300% to IIS) or would it be more/real/. Can anyone point to a page with a benchmark done by a third party company??
Well, at least for me the OpenOffice menus configuration have more sense, here an example:
In MS Office to change the format of a page (width, length, orientation, etc) you must acces the FILE/PAGE CONFIGURATION (or something similar, I use the Spanish version); while in OpenOffice you use FORMAT/PAGE.
For me, the MS way is nonsense, the FILE menu must be for everything related to the SYSTEM file tools, open, save, save as, etc; and the FORMAT menu is the right place to put the option to modify the FORMAT of the page.
Another menu I think is kind of stupid is the VIEW menu, View??? I think you could put everything in that menu View/Page properties, View/Windows List, View/Language Options, etc. So it is another stupid menu.
Because of that, I agree with you, btw, have you seen that all the menu bars have at MOST 9 or 10 menus?? usually they have like 5 (File, Edit, Options, Tools, Help). And then those menus have like 20 options and more submenus!!! (just look at the View menu in OO or in Firefox). Now that really pisses me off.
Sure they can! Imagine an Apple OSX shell front end for the PC that completely replaces the Explorer as a shell (of course, from Apple themselves). I know there are already skins that do the same, but it would really be awesome if Apple could come out with a product like that! Actually a friend just made all the hassle to make his Windowze desktop look like the OSX, why? because it looks nicer, and he can not afford a Mac.
That reminds me a qoute from an old tutorial of "Zen Cracking" I think it was someone at the +ORC group, it goes something like:
"There only thing worst of not having any information about something is having an overwhelming amount of information"
I think this is the case for SCO (and that was what IBM wanted to do. In the end they lose money, time and efforts... and IBM surely knows they will not find what they are looking for in there...
If they really wanted to give it away, they would give away the patents.
Mod parent up, I think AC is correct this time, what Microsoft would do is give his not completley developed technology so others can develop it (not that it is bad, any kind of research is good from my poin of view).
Until that everything is ok, but I hope MS won't start asking for loyalties based in his patents. I am NOT saying they will, in fact they have not claimed any patent infringment (or have they?). I just hope they do not go for that way
Surely Microsoft has already all the patents of that research properly covered, so, if someone tries to do something that could compete vs them in any way Microsoft just have to enforce its patents.
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QUOTE: How many fronts can Microsoft take on, at once?/QUOTE
Do you know?, that is Microsoft's problem with Google, until now they didn't really had to compete against a lot of different fronts, you see, there was software but the way Microsoft competed was economically, it was all about the money so they could kill all the competirors in the same way.
What happens with google is that that competition paradigm does not work with Google's profit equation:
Profit$ = ServiceQuality*NumberofUsers.
As you can see, there is no ServicePrice variable in the equation, so microsoft can not compete in the usual way.
What do they have to do?, well, they have 2 options, the first one (and fortunatley the one they are currently doing) is compete with the ServiceQuality.
The other thing they could do, is force in some way the ServicePrice ($$$) in the equation. How?, well by the side of the customers (advertisers). Giving better options for the advertisers, cheaper prices for advertising or another innovative idea.
But, that will not be all, they will also need to increase the NumberofUsers variable, because that is what counts for advertisers.
So far, Microsoft had won every battle because all of its competitors profit "equations" included the ServicePrice (read service, product, software , etc.) and Microsoft was fighting in only that front, but they can not do that anymore with google, and that is what is frustrating MS.
Every new product Google unveils its always the same, will Google become evil? what about my privacy? Will they stop being good?.
There is nothing to be worried about, the information google has is so SO big that it would be really difficult to concentrate in the granularity of one person, if you look close at the google service, it is all about tendencies the adds, the search (and that's all), it is called data mining.
And they will always be cautios in not pissing of the users because their customers (advertisers) would loss interest in them (less people to whom advertise) so, I think we can stop being paranoid there is no problem or at least I do not see it.
QUOTE: With Windows 9x I guess you could say there is an equivalent, namely shutting down to DOS mode and starting Windows back up/QUOTE
How many times did I heard people talking about Windows 95/98/ME: "It is not a new OS it is just a graphical frontend sitting in TEH OLDE M$DO$) and now you are telling that restarting X-Window over Bash is similar to the arcane Win 95, not intenting to be a Troll, I know the Linux Kernel is 32 bits per se, and all the other capabilites (I program propietary hardware drivers for Linux). But as far as I can see, that was just bullshit, and I guess some Linux "advocates" are currently spreading the same KIND of BS with current windows vs linux comparisons...
The truth (for me) is that we can NOT compare Windows vs Linux... they are 2 OS aimed to different markets... Windows is aimed to End Lusers (I just thought this one =oP) while Linux is aimed to Power Lusers.
It is in the same way as the old MS-DOS was, people coped with command sheets and IRQ configs and all that (I like comparing that with current./config;./make;./make install steps in Linux) and while there are great efforts towards simplifying tasks, they are still not usable enough for end users.
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Exactly, not to name the other digital media players that play MP3 (the defacto standard). I do not own the money to buy an iPod (and I find it quite overprized), but I bought an MP3 player which was like $80.
As for buying music?, after buying music in here I have not seen any other store that gives me the an approximatley so good service.
No, he was meaning Lenovo
Man, Personally I think one of the things that REALLY need some kind of bounty backup are the DOCUMENTATION projects... I mean, if you look at KDE help (the one that is embedded in the system) it Really Sucks(tm).
And I am not talking only about Help Files, I am talking about Analysis and Design documents (anyone care to say what is the average of the OSS projects that have a reasonably good Requirments Document Specification or Design Specification Document.
As a software engineer I know those are one of the things programmers really do not like to do... but they are really necessary and helpful.
hehe, this is something I was thinking about all this new trend to make prequels of movies from the past... It seems that in some way the people from the movies, their technology and overall infraestructure became worse over time, after you see Batman Forever (which thime is before the original batman) custome, you wonder what happened to him after... also with Starwars, you see the first (or last 3...) movies and then you see Episode 1, and 2 and the technology is sooo darn cool! (robots, etc) and you ask, what happened??.
I think this sucks, and it is caused by the urge of film houses to get the last pennie possible from a franchise... people had run out of ideas, so just get an old idea and exploit it again...
And that may be the way :). I was suprised the other day I was looking for something in Google and suddenly I got into this page. They have thought about enterprise appliances, it would be nice to have a review of this hardware/services.
As for mail I think it is not really worth to buy a "really good" email system for inhouse use. Why? well, usually normal workers will be quite happy with their current email client, or forwarding to their preffered service and being google main buisness information Searching (or managing if you like) the only use for this would be if an Admin could look for certain information inside themail of all the workers.
God, I would really hate to work in a company with such politics =oS
Why not?, maybe it is not the "best thing" to do (as may be buying new chairs and desks for the schools) but it is certainly better than giving money to a foreign company.
What will you win if you give the money to a company? they will continue to develop their product and their current marketing strategy, (I am trying to be as even as I can, so no names); also, as I stated before, the money will end OUT of UK.
Instead if you fund OSS projects you may promote OSS development within your country for the Goverment.
Look, I see it this way, OSS is not for everyone, comercial companies may wish to spend in propietary software. But for goverment agencies, I think is a kind of duty to use OSS (what I mean is BSD, MIT, GPL or any of those kind of licenses) because that software is property (in some way) of the people, so if everyone contribute fairly with their taxes, why can't you give them "more" for their money?.
It is like a road, I am expected to be able to drive on the roads that I pay with my taxes.
You may think it is funny but my dad asked me to install that Linúx (note the spanish accent not properly situated) because he wanted that Marbles game, uh? I think it was a good chance to give him a liitle "more", so, because I know he likes also the Mahjong game, once I installed Mandrake 10 in one of his computers I added that game.
I put a OpenOffice, Firefox and the games icons in the desktop. Them computer was one of the 2 that he has in his office, he uses the first one for his main work (Windows XP) and the second one is used by some of his pupils (he is a researcher) when they need something, or if he needs to do something else while his main computer is processing.
Now, to my surprise, after 2 weeks, he suddenly mailed me a presentation with some cool information, but it was an SXI file. Then I replied his mail and asked, why is the file SXI? and he told me he started using this OpenOffice and he found it good, and also, told me how angry he was at me because I installed the Mahjong game, which got him very addicted =oP hehe. He was already using Firefox on Windows (he is one of the only 3 people I know to had bought the Netscape Navitagor... yup, with CD, Manual and everything!) and anther program called JabRef, so it was quite easy for him to adapt to Linux...
Now, he also told me he tried to use the Linux Excel (yes... that how he wrote, he was meaning OpenOffice Calc) but he was not able to do one or two things he does with Excel (he does not uses macros so it has nothing to do with VBA).
Well, sorry to go offtopic, but I think hell yeah!, games is a great selling point for selling games, and MOSTLY for the End User, who wants to use her computer to do work. I remember a study that said something about goverment workers playing Solitaire a lot!
As for the "best selling" games, do not worry, the people we are talking about do not care about these games (usually it is their kids who care) or, if they care, they usually buy an Xbox,PS2 or GC.
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From my point of view, schools must use OSS because but they should pay (or donate) money for the used software.
Why? someone else stated, school's money comes from our Taxes, and OSS is available to everyone or it is property of "everyone" (of course copyright remains to the author, etc, etc.) so our money taxes is going to fund something that is for THE PEOPLE and not for an company.
Even worse, if people in UK buy a software from Microsoft then the money they are using (money from Taxes) is going to US, instead, if they pay or donate money to a OSS then this money will go directly to imporove this project.
Hell, they could even donate money to fund Open projects in the UK!
lol thnks, do you know what is worse?? I quoted the text from the web page which contained the word spelled correctly =oS
from MSDN: Taking Recovery Precautions
Recovering Encrypted Files
Any data recovery agent can recover an encrypted file when a user's private key fails to decrypt the file.
To recover an encrypted file
1. Log on to a computer that has access to the user's profile; for example, a computer that has a designated recovery console or a recovery key on removable media such as a floppy disk. You might log on at the user's computer or the user might have a roaming profile.
2. Locate the encrypted file. For example, the user might have made a backup of the file by using Backup or sent the file to a WebDAV Web folder.
3. Decrypt the file by using either the cipher command or My Computer. This will make the file available to the user.
For more information about decrypting files, see "Working with Encryption and Decryption" earlier in this chapter.
As for corrupted encripted files, well, I think it is almost impossible for an encripted file to be restored if it is corrupted, unless it has some kind of recovery record overhead...
Of course, I would better opt out for an standard open cyphering method.
Well, sure, that's the catch to "Free Software": the consultant fees to enable you to use it even partially productively. Of course that's a business opportunity for some,
I agree with you, I just posted to show you there IS an alternative, in fact I think the idea I stated in my previous message has not been developed, well, only in migration of the Operating System itself (Windows->Linux), but as the thread shows there is indeed a migration cost for production software (aka office suites).
but for the rest of us it's an added expense, a time sink, and a distraction from our primary jobs.
Of course, as I stated in my previous post (in a slightly exaggerated way btw) you would only want to "hire" me if you had some reasons to migrate from your current platform (maybe the reasons I give are a bit geekish-zealot) and, the reason why you would "hire me" is to avoid being distracted from the migration process (at least minimize the distraction).
Now, an argument often made for FOSS is that you don't have to walk on the upgrade treadmill if you don't want to. [...] they're still using Office 97. If it works for them, why upgrade?
Again, I agree, actually I think it is the same for both sides, why upgrade if you can do what you need to do with the current software, and you dominate the current version? Of course you do not need to!, This remind me of one post I read sometime ago here, they asked: Why do you think NASA is using software that is like 20 or 30 years old? because it is tested, it works FOR THEM and it does what it has to do. So unless there is a real reason (a feature you desperately need etc) you should not be FORCED to migrate, and this is where the Marketing of companies like MS comes in, they try to push you to upgrade.
And, as you told, OpenOffice and other free software may also push you to upgrade, but, here you have a slight difference, in the first you have a $300 cost for licensing, and in the second you do not have a cost at all!, From my point of view, when people talk about TCO for migrating from proprietary to OSS and they conclude that it is really expensive to migrate to OSS it is not fair.
If you migrate from MSOffice 97 to MSoffice 2003 how much would it be?? I do not know the cost of the licenses, but my guess is like $150 each upgrade license, maybe I am wrong, and of course you would not have to spend money in learning. Likewise if you migrate from OpenOffice 1.0 to OpenOffice 2.0 , how much would it cost? $0 per license, and also how much would it cost in learning? also nothing as it is the equivalent upgrade from MSOffice 97 to 2003 (read equivalent as the same base technology/structure with upgrades and improvements).
So, people like to point out the cost of migrating from MSOffice to OpenOffice, and they state the costs of learning, but, what about the other way? OO -> MSOffice, you would have to pay the licenses + the courses.
Now, don't get me wrong, OO is a great idea in theory. A free office suite for which you can make your own custom extensions, or re-write completely if you are so inclined, would be a very handy thing to have. However, those of us that use these things as tools want, more than anything, a stable production environment. A whole scale switch to another only partially (at best) compatible application suite with limited market penetration does not meet this criteria, no matter how modest the sums are.
I think the basic concern here is about what do you started to use, if a company bases all his office technology in OO (spreadsheets, presentations, macros, databases, etc) then they will surely have a hard time migrating to MS Office (+ the Licenses costs) so it is quite similar to some company migrating to OO, so as you said, OpenOffice is a great software, for me, it is really good for people that is just starting to get into computing or people that use computer to create documents and do not require to comply with any standard (students, teachers, etc).
Where you see a wall I see a buisness oportunity. When you are tired of buying and rebuying MS Licenses or when the next MS Office .NET Avalon comes with a minimal Windows Longhorn requeriments, and you get so pissed off, pllease, remember me and send me an email (xtracto@linuxmail.org).
;o)
I will charge you a modest sum to migrate your documents/spreadsheets/etc from MS Office to Windows.
AAAAnnnd, I also offer you a full course of OpenOffice scripting, so you can extend your macros!
What do you say??
Just before clicking in the "here" link... I saw that the URL was from Microsoft... come one!, they surely won't say that the RedHat box was better!!
/real/. Can anyone point to a page with a benchmark done by a third party company??
Now, It would be interesting to see a benchmark commisioned by RedHat... would it be all the contrary?? (RedHat beats by 300% to IIS) or would it be more
Well, at least for me the OpenOffice menus configuration have more sense, here an example:
In MS Office to change the format of a page (width, length, orientation, etc) you must acces the FILE/PAGE CONFIGURATION (or something similar, I use the Spanish version); while in OpenOffice you use FORMAT/PAGE.
For me, the MS way is nonsense, the FILE menu must be for everything related to the SYSTEM file tools, open, save, save as, etc; and the FORMAT menu is the right place to put the option to modify the FORMAT of the page.
Another menu I think is kind of stupid is the VIEW menu, View??? I think you could put everything in that menu View/Page properties, View/Windows List, View/Language Options, etc. So it is another stupid menu.
Because of that, I agree with you, btw, have you seen that all the menu bars have at MOST 9 or 10 menus?? usually they have like 5 (File, Edit, Options, Tools, Help). And then those menus have like 20 options and more submenus!!! (just look at the View menu in OO or in Firefox). Now that really pisses me off.
(we can't make it as beautiful, unfortunately).
Sure they can! Imagine an Apple OSX shell front end for the PC that completely replaces the Explorer as a shell (of course, from Apple themselves). I know there are already skins that do the same, but it would really be awesome if Apple could come out with a product like that! Actually a friend just made all the hassle to make his Windowze desktop look like the OSX, why? because it looks nicer, and he can not afford a Mac.
That reminds me a qoute from an old tutorial of "Zen Cracking" I think it was someone at the +ORC group, it goes something like:
"There only thing worst of not having any information about something is having an overwhelming amount of information"
I think this is the case for SCO (and that was what IBM wanted to do. In the end they lose money, time and efforts... and IBM surely knows they will not find what they are looking for in there...
If they really wanted to give it away, they would give away the patents.
Mod parent up, I think AC is correct this time, what Microsoft would do is give his not completley developed technology so others can develop it (not that it is bad, any kind of research is good from my poin of view).
Until that everything is ok, but I hope MS won't start asking for loyalties based in his patents. I am NOT saying they will, in fact they have not claimed any patent infringment (or have they?). I just hope they do not go for that way
nah, it is easier than that:
PATENTS.
Surely Microsoft has already all the patents of that research properly covered, so, if someone tries to do something that could compete vs them in any way Microsoft just have to enforce its patents.
QUOTE: How many fronts can Microsoft take on, at once? /QUOTE
Do you know?, that is Microsoft's problem with Google, until now they didn't really had to compete against a lot of different fronts, you see, there was software but the way Microsoft competed was economically, it was all about the money so they could kill all the competirors in the same way.
What happens with google is that that competition paradigm does not work with Google's profit equation:
Profit$ = ServiceQuality*NumberofUsers.
As you can see, there is no ServicePrice variable in the equation, so microsoft can not compete in the usual way.
What do they have to do?, well, they have 2 options, the first one (and fortunatley the one they are currently doing) is compete with the ServiceQuality.
The other thing they could do, is force in some way the ServicePrice ($$$) in the equation. How?, well by the side of the customers (advertisers). Giving better options for the advertisers, cheaper prices for advertising or another innovative idea.
But, that will not be all, they will also need to increase the NumberofUsers variable, because that is what counts for advertisers.
So far, Microsoft had won every battle because all of its competitors profit "equations" included the ServicePrice (read service, product, software , etc.) and Microsoft was fighting in only that front, but they can not do that anymore with google, and that is what is frustrating MS.
Every new product Google unveils its always the same, will Google become evil? what about my privacy? Will they stop being good?.
There is nothing to be worried about, the information google has is so SO big that it would be really difficult to concentrate in the granularity of one person, if you look close at the google service, it is all about tendencies the adds, the search (and that's all), it is called data mining.
And they will always be cautios in not pissing of the users because their customers (advertisers) would loss interest in them (less people to whom advertise) so, I think we can stop being paranoid there is no problem or at least I do not see it.
For the love of god it is */^^^^N O T^^^^/* called STEALING it is COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT!!!!
That only can show you how screwed is the US legal system... And how is it being manipulated by the large corporations.
lol, do you know what is funny?? at the end, the original post ended with a +5 Insightful =o)
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QUOTE: With Windows 9x I guess you could say there is an equivalent, namely shutting down to DOS mode and starting Windows back up /QUOTE
./config;./make;./make install steps in Linux) and while there are great efforts towards simplifying tasks, they are still not usable enough for end users.
How many times did I heard people talking about Windows 95/98/ME: "It is not a new OS it is just a graphical frontend sitting in TEH OLDE M$DO$) and now you are telling that restarting X-Window over Bash is similar to the arcane Win 95, not intenting to be a Troll, I know the Linux Kernel is 32 bits per se, and all the other capabilites (I program propietary hardware drivers for Linux). But as far as I can see, that was just bullshit, and I guess some Linux "advocates" are currently spreading the same KIND of BS with current windows vs linux comparisons...
The truth (for me) is that we can NOT compare Windows vs Linux... they are 2 OS aimed to different markets... Windows is aimed to End Lusers (I just thought this one =oP) while Linux is aimed to Power Lusers.
It is in the same way as the old MS-DOS was, people coped with command sheets and IRQ configs and all that (I like comparing that with current
Maybe in 5 years now... (that is my prediction)