Crackers to a starving person taste like 4 star stuff... that doesn't make them 4 star crackers
people buying bootleg DVD's on NY streets don't make the bootlegs good or worth it... that just makes people desperate with money to burn
In Iraq, while I was deployed, Marines spent money on bootleg DVD's that often didn't work or were crappy quality. The reason they bought them was because it's the only option or best option available. Some people would rather support a thief than support the artists responsible for such a 'must see' tv show (it's obviously must see... else why would they be dying to get a bootleg?)
boycotting them isnt going to make them change their mind.
If enough people boycott, a company WILL notice. I'm sorry, but even big companies know that bad word of mouth can hurt in the long run.
Now. As a gamer, I personally won't buy a Tecmo game until I hear they change their practices. Why? There are so many games out there where I can personalize my experience without worrying about getting sued for it. The fact that Tecmo is clearly going against standard, ACCEPTED practices is stupid.
Where would HL be without mods like CS? Probably no where NEAR where it is today, if alive at all. The power of letting gamers have fun with their games is happy gamers return to the games that make them happy.
Children? He needs to understand that kids when they turn 18 are loosed upon the world and go in directions that the parents don't always 'control'... Respecting his 'kids' is fine, but telling a parent it's his right to control his 'adult' kid is stupid. (To follow the analogy that you so aptly used).
Now if this is an Online Player with/vs Player game, I might understand if hacking is involved that changes the game for OTHER players or. But from the sounds of it, and what I remember about NinjaGaiden and the likes, it's single player madness.
It's harmfull for someone to enjoy the games they buy? SHANAGINS! I call Shanagins! Everyone go get their brooms and pitchforks!!!
Your the one missing out. Watch the DVD version of Season one, which is basically a movie. Makes it go a WHOLE lot smoother than it would have gone otherwise.
Thus comes the problem: which comes first - the chicken or the egg
Gamers aren't going to switch without the Programers making Games for [Insert Non-MS OS here]
Programers aren't going to switch without the gamers.
It's the same reason that 64 bit programing hasn't really taken off. Without the proccessors and the OS, programers have nothing to program for (I am talking main stream... not servers)
Sure there are some emulators and the ability to play games on other systems gets better with time, but until the latest and greatest play on Other OS's right out of the box. The options are getting better, but it's like TIVO - There are some options out there that are better. But the easiest option is what works for most people. the learning curve is to steep.
As for me - HL2, WoW, SWKotOR, etc... those are why I buy my machines. I can play them hassle free on WinXP and with a little knowledge, vigilince and good setup have a secure box - What reason do I have to switch?
I would consider myself far from ignorant or bigoted. If you want to use that as an excuse not to approach the issue then you are a coward who has no argument to stand on. I don't hate people, I hate their sins. That must be to subtle of a difference for you to grasp in your oh-so-wise-liberal-ways.
People who want to hate will use anything, and twist it to fuel their hatred. Your a moron and ignorant yourself if you think the bible teaches hate. Maybe you should read it instead of judging. Maybe you should practice the tolerance you so apparently preach. That would get rid of the hypocracy.
Then maybe you'd have an argument besides spouting hate... about hate... go figure?
Those who use the bible as a base for their hatred will be judged by God. They have theirs coming to them.
But you go ahead and feel good about yourself because your a liberal. Meanwhile I'll attack the issues at hand while not hiding behind some party banner like a kid in a gang. And that's not an attack on liberals, it is an attack on you personally for dodging the issue with lame ass excuses.
Phones have had a power portion to their service for a long time now. How else would you simply be able to plug in an old phone and get everything (Remember the time before wireless, answering machines, fax machines when phones were just phones and worked without Wall Warts?:). and as far as I'm concerned I don't see the phone companies THAT concerned about tacking 'just one more' fee onto an already complicated phone bill. Tell me I'm wrong on this one...? But that's my take on things.
If I connect a modem that PoE to my computer the power bill is coming out of my pocket. I'd end up spending the same on power, roughly - A modem plugged in the wall or a modem plugged PoE. Either way it's on my power bill OR the phone company is charging me for power 'service' fee.
WTF is the Point of going through all that just to get a different plug. Are you that low on power outlets?
Well as far as I'm concerned, in my eyes it's not so much about the power.
I would use this technology NOT simply as a 'power cost re-locator' or as a way to save on differing power outputs by different areas (god knows that the stupid standards commities would probably put different power outputs on the PoE lines anyways just like fucking DVD area coding. this isn't that soap box:) but as a way to make there one less power cable, wall wort, less clutter. Simple Convienience factor. Just as wireless makes likfe easier, this would HOPEFULLY be the same.
That way you would hopefully have the option of powering via Wallwart (sans wireless connection and no ethernet) or power via PoE (sans a wallwort and no extra power cables to mess with)
And as a side note, I personally DO have problem with power outlets. I have two desktops, a laptop, phone, lights, modem, router, speakers, monitor, TV, VCR, DVD player, mini-fridge, external backup hard drives, burners, etc ad nausium. Those take up ALOT of power plug slots. Add cables to clutter (or spend time uncluttering) Add wall warts to hide. Speaker cables to run. Little by little those cables add up. As someone who deals with all this - ANY device that requires fewer cable(s) would be MORE than worth it if once it started adding up. If I could get my Modem, router, phone... hell if they could come up with a cable powered speaker system (a surround sound type system... not a cheap 'desktop speaker' crap system) I would go for that too.
Yes this would require upgrade parts/power supply, but as someone who's upgrading regularly to keep up with games it wouldn't be that much of a hassle for me personally.
Your telling this to a web board that lives off of 1) 2) 3)Profit!!!, In Soviet Russia Something More Carriers You!!!, and other stupid jokes MONTHS after they stopped being funny?
Your speaking to the wrong crowd if you think old jokes will die. You might as well start saying 640k will be enough and just go with the flow.
That's something I hadn't seen mentioned yet. Speaking of phones gave me an idea:
While it sounds like powering a PC via ethernet might be a bad idea, what about powering a Router? or a Modem? WebCam? VoIP phone?
I see tons of people saying what this can't be used for and how a monitor would push this over the limits of the wires capability to handle the current, but think outside the box:P
As a Christian I believe in the Bible. And as a Christian I have every right to say that Homo-sexuality is unnatural. My viewpoint is NOT ignorant nor is it bigoted.
Please realize that two of my best friends are Gay. I let them know my viewpoints, and I accept them for the choices they have made. I try to follow the example of Love the Sinner and Hate the Sins. I'm not perfect, neither are they. And they have accepted my viewpoints so I know I'm doing something right.
Someone says 'Gays are unnatural' and they are supposedly closeminded, bigoted, hatefull... But the second someone says hatefull things about a christian (or like-minded person), its okay for them to say it's 'wrong' for me to believe in what the Bible says?
It's 'supposedly' wrong for me to say that your wrong and living against the Bible (not that I would force the bible one you personally, but I will let you know my opinion on the matter), but it's OKAY for you to say that I'm wrong and judge me for my following my religion? Its okay for you to judge my life and call me a bigot (or worse - out of your ignorance), but it's not okay for me to believe what I want to believe? that my friends is hypocracy.
I personally believe that it IS wrong to be Gay. that's what the bible says. But that's YOUR personal choice to make if your believe likewise. The only one that should be judging you, from a strictly christian point of view, should be God. Not the Christian. Are there hypoctrical and self righteous christians that do? yes. And that's just as hypocritical, imo.
This is a bash against self-righteous christians who judge gays when they should know that God will judge them, and a bash against self righteous gays who think that My right to be a christian is wrong.
Bring the 'flamebait' mods rain. I'm not afraid to say what I believe in. And I will not be called a bigot and ignorant. You making that statement puts YOU on the 'bigoted ignorant' level that you are apparently so against. That's my soap-box rant.:)
Beyond that, people like me who upgrade to near-top-of-the-line computers every year or two can simply keep the OLD gaming computer for 'normal' tasks - and still only need One monitor/keyboard/mouse thanks to KVM switch.
My two year old gaming computer now runs very nicely as a media server.
Bullshitting? Where does law of averages appear in any of the thread? Who said Google is perfect? Where does 'Google was spotted walking on water' appear in the headlines?
Your logic just astounds me. Google is a buisness like any other. They are doing, I think, a good job so far - even if they do have alot of work to do in some areas.
Not sure where you get me being a dickhead. Maybe you need to reread the thread and open your eyes. I think i've been rather polite, given the attitude of the one I'm replying too.
isn't the Parent talking about a MILITARY Acronym? NOT Computer Industry acronym? Military don't care and SHOULDN'T care if the 'civilian sector' likes or dislikes it's acronyms.
The military has it's own language and terms that requires as much interpetation as geek-speak or any other 'foreign language'. I swear some people think I'm speaking klingon when I start talking military AND geekspeak:)
and my last note: I have memorized most computer acronyms. Does that mean I'm not a people?
Get a grip. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. Maybe they are getting good press because *gasp* they are doing good things? Too complicated a concept eh?
But now I'm going to be labeled a fan-boy or something. Oh well. I'll believe the bad stuff if it gets published. Until then I bore of the conspiracy theory nuts. Just me tho.
There are those who stay in because they love what they do, and they honestly care about the people who work for them, but they're few and far between
You must have been in the Army. As a Marine there are TONS of people who stay in for 'The Love of the Corps' and the life that goes with it.
There are TONS that don't like the life and get out or, as you said, know they would be failures on the outside so they stay in. And tons that get lured out of the military due to their skills for the money they'd get outside.
Atleast that's my experience with the Marines I work with. I'm considering staying in for those reasons... good money and freedom on the outside is something I have to consider as well
Just because someone got out of the military doesn't mean the 'washed out'. washed out means something dirogetory from my eyes
Being in the military I can tell you there are alot of Good and Bad that get out of the military after 4 years of service - with an honorable service record. I know this may be surprising but, *GASP*, some people don't like military life and CHOOSE not to continue.
Some go far in life, some don't. But to say that someone who is prior military is 'washed out' doesn't do them justice.
(Yeah... my spelling is attrocious. Deal with it. I'm to tired to use spell check:)
I've rarely used it with the internal without a full charge... out of habit. I have my laptop plugged in most of the time, leaving it fully charged obviously. The times I would discharge my laptop is normally on purpose - on occasion just so it remembers what it's like to be empty.
The few times I would fully charge the external - and then unplug it (or lose power the my building) it would last up to 2 hours and down to 30 minutes.
After the first set of batteries had to be replaced (Props to Valence for that... replacing them from Iraq was a pain and they made it as flawless as possible)
With BOTH packs charged full, I can only seem to get half an hour out of both packs. I have a zd7260us HP laptop (17 inch screen, 3200 intel *NOT* centrino, 5200 NVidia'2'Go... power hog) I figured these problems were because of my hungry laptop.
Anyone know of good FAQ's on how to get the best life out of an external battery - specifically the 2nd Gen Valence Batteries? I hadn't thought of looking until reading this thread.
It would be no different than Microsofts pathetic use of IE. They used their monopoly to win the browser war and they have barely touched the browser since.
The only reason they are begging to ramp up the timetable on the IE updates is *drum roll* Firefox and competition.
It's not that there would be NO movement without AMD/Intel duking it out... it would just be slower and more expensive.
Those who think it ain't more expensive look at the cost of spyware/scumware removal due to Microsofts ignoring IE due to market dominance. That's the only one example of many.
Where does the Soviet Russia jokes originate from? Just call it morbid curiosity, but it's the only running joke i've noticed that I really don't understand.
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Crackers to a starving person taste like 4 star stuff... that doesn't make them 4 star crackers
people buying bootleg DVD's on NY streets don't make the bootlegs good or worth it... that just makes people desperate with money to burn
In Iraq, while I was deployed, Marines spent money on bootleg DVD's that often didn't work or were crappy quality. The reason they bought them was because it's the only option or best option available. Some people would rather support a thief than support the artists responsible for such a 'must see' tv show (it's obviously must see... else why would they be dying to get a bootleg?)
boycotting them isnt going to make them change their mind.
If enough people boycott, a company WILL notice. I'm sorry, but even big companies know that bad word of mouth can hurt in the long run.
Now. As a gamer, I personally won't buy a Tecmo game until I hear they change their practices. Why? There are so many games out there where I can personalize my experience without worrying about getting sued for it. The fact that Tecmo is clearly going against standard, ACCEPTED practices is stupid.
Where would HL be without mods like CS? Probably no where NEAR where it is today, if alive at all. The power of letting gamers have fun with their games is happy gamers return to the games that make them happy.
Children? He needs to understand that kids when they turn 18 are loosed upon the world and go in directions that the parents don't always 'control'... Respecting his 'kids' is fine, but telling a parent it's his right to control his 'adult' kid is stupid. (To follow the analogy that you so aptly used).
Now if this is an Online Player with/vs Player game, I might understand if hacking is involved that changes the game for OTHER players or. But from the sounds of it, and what I remember about NinjaGaiden and the likes, it's single player madness.
It's harmfull for someone to enjoy the games they buy? SHANAGINS! I call Shanagins! Everyone go get their brooms and pitchforks!!!
Your the one missing out. Watch the DVD version of Season one, which is basically a movie. Makes it go a WHOLE lot smoother than it would have gone otherwise.
Thus comes the problem: which comes first - the chicken or the egg
Gamers aren't going to switch without the Programers making Games for [Insert Non-MS OS here]
Programers aren't going to switch without the gamers.
It's the same reason that 64 bit programing hasn't really taken off. Without the proccessors and the OS, programers have nothing to program for (I am talking main stream... not servers)
Sure there are some emulators and the ability to play games on other systems gets better with time, but until the latest and greatest play on Other OS's right out of the box. The options are getting better, but it's like TIVO - There are some options out there that are better. But the easiest option is what works for most people. the learning curve is to steep.
As for me - HL2, WoW, SWKotOR, etc... those are why I buy my machines. I can play them hassle free on WinXP and with a little knowledge, vigilince and good setup have a secure box - What reason do I have to switch?
You must not know how long wars go on from that comment... so you must be french.
but I'm not going to be ignorant enough to guess by a single statment...
Amen and whole heartedly second that notion. /. needs to do a vote on 'How would you like Jar Jar to Die?'. I'd love too see some good options.
Chris
I would consider myself far from ignorant or bigoted. If you want to use that as an excuse not to approach the issue then you are a coward who has no argument to stand on. I don't hate people, I hate their sins. That must be to subtle of a difference for you to grasp in your oh-so-wise-liberal-ways.
People who want to hate will use anything, and twist it to fuel their hatred. Your a moron and ignorant yourself if you think the bible teaches hate. Maybe you should read it instead of judging. Maybe you should practice the tolerance you so apparently preach. That would get rid of the hypocracy.
Then maybe you'd have an argument besides spouting hate... about hate... go figure?
Those who use the bible as a base for their hatred will be judged by God. They have theirs coming to them.
But you go ahead and feel good about yourself because your a liberal. Meanwhile I'll attack the issues at hand while not hiding behind some party banner like a kid in a gang. And that's not an attack on liberals, it is an attack on you personally for dodging the issue with lame ass excuses.
Who pays for it?
:). and as far as I'm concerned I don't see the phone companies THAT concerned about tacking 'just one more' fee onto an already complicated phone bill. Tell me I'm wrong on this one...? But that's my take on things.
:) but as a way to make there one less power cable, wall wort, less clutter. Simple Convienience factor. Just as wireless makes likfe easier, this would HOPEFULLY be the same.
Phones have had a power portion to their service for a long time now. How else would you simply be able to plug in an old phone and get everything (Remember the time before wireless, answering machines, fax machines when phones were just phones and worked without Wall Warts?
If I connect a modem that PoE to my computer the power bill is coming out of my pocket. I'd end up spending the same on power, roughly - A modem plugged in the wall or a modem plugged PoE. Either way it's on my power bill OR the phone company is charging me for power 'service' fee.
WTF is the Point of going through all that just to get a different plug. Are you that low on power outlets?
Well as far as I'm concerned, in my eyes it's not so much about the power.
I would use this technology NOT simply as a 'power cost re-locator' or as a way to save on differing power outputs by different areas (god knows that the stupid standards commities would probably put different power outputs on the PoE lines anyways just like fucking DVD area coding. this isn't that soap box
That way you would hopefully have the option of powering via Wallwart (sans wireless connection and no ethernet) or power via PoE (sans a wallwort and no extra power cables to mess with)
And as a side note, I personally DO have problem with power outlets. I have two desktops, a laptop, phone, lights, modem, router, speakers, monitor, TV, VCR, DVD player, mini-fridge, external backup hard drives, burners, etc ad nausium. Those take up ALOT of power plug slots. Add cables to clutter (or spend time uncluttering) Add wall warts to hide. Speaker cables to run. Little by little those cables add up. As someone who deals with all this - ANY device that requires fewer cable(s) would be MORE than worth it if once it started adding up. If I could get my Modem, router, phone... hell if they could come up with a cable powered speaker system (a surround sound type system... not a cheap 'desktop speaker' crap system) I would go for that too.
Yes this would require upgrade parts/power supply, but as someone who's upgrading regularly to keep up with games it wouldn't be that much of a hassle for me personally.
Your telling this to a web board that lives off of 1) 2) 3)Profit!!!, In Soviet Russia Something More Carriers You!!!, and other stupid jokes MONTHS after they stopped being funny?
Your speaking to the wrong crowd if you think old jokes will die. You might as well start saying 640k will be enough and just go with the flow.
That's something I hadn't seen mentioned yet. Speaking of phones gave me an idea:
:P
While it sounds like powering a PC via ethernet might be a bad idea, what about powering a Router? or a Modem? WebCam? VoIP phone?
I see tons of people saying what this can't be used for and how a monitor would push this over the limits of the wires capability to handle the current, but think outside the box
Whoever modded this 'troll' is a moron. I found it particularly funny. +1 funny
As a Christian I believe in the Bible. And as a Christian I have every right to say that Homo-sexuality is unnatural. My viewpoint is NOT ignorant nor is it bigoted.
:)
Please realize that two of my best friends are Gay. I let them know my viewpoints, and I accept them for the choices they have made. I try to follow the example of Love the Sinner and Hate the Sins. I'm not perfect, neither are they. And they have accepted my viewpoints so I know I'm doing something right.
Someone says 'Gays are unnatural' and they are supposedly closeminded, bigoted, hatefull... But the second someone says hatefull things about a christian (or like-minded person), its okay for them to say it's 'wrong' for me to believe in what the Bible says?
It's 'supposedly' wrong for me to say that your wrong and living against the Bible (not that I would force the bible one you personally, but I will let you know my opinion on the matter), but it's OKAY for you to say that I'm wrong and judge me for my following my religion? Its okay for you to judge my life and call me a bigot (or worse - out of your ignorance), but it's not okay for me to believe what I want to believe? that my friends is hypocracy.
I personally believe that it IS wrong to be Gay. that's what the bible says. But that's YOUR personal choice to make if your believe likewise. The only one that should be judging you, from a strictly christian point of view, should be God. Not the Christian. Are there hypoctrical and self righteous christians that do? yes. And that's just as hypocritical, imo.
This is a bash against self-righteous christians who judge gays when they should know that God will judge them, and a bash against self righteous gays who think that My right to be a christian is wrong.
Bring the 'flamebait' mods rain. I'm not afraid to say what I believe in. And I will not be called a bigot and ignorant. You making that statement puts YOU on the 'bigoted ignorant' level that you are apparently so against. That's my soap-box rant.
Chris
Beyond that, people like me who upgrade to near-top-of-the-line computers every year or two can simply keep the OLD gaming computer for 'normal' tasks - and still only need One monitor/keyboard/mouse thanks to KVM switch.
My two year old gaming computer now runs very nicely as a media server.
Go Figure eh?
Bullshitting? Where does law of averages appear in any of the thread? Who said Google is perfect? Where does 'Google was spotted walking on water' appear in the headlines?
Your logic just astounds me. Google is a buisness like any other. They are doing, I think, a good job so far - even if they do have alot of work to do in some areas.
Not sure where you get me being a dickhead. Maybe you need to reread the thread and open your eyes. I think i've been rather polite, given the attitude of the one I'm replying too.
lol that joke must have went over my head. Like I said... maybe monday has me retarded :) I still don't get it but ah well.
Maybe monday is making me retarded... but...
:)
isn't the Parent talking about a MILITARY Acronym? NOT Computer Industry acronym? Military don't care and SHOULDN'T care if the 'civilian sector' likes or dislikes it's acronyms.
The military has it's own language and terms that requires as much interpetation as geek-speak or any other 'foreign language'. I swear some people think I'm speaking klingon when I start talking military AND geekspeak
and my last note: I have memorized most computer acronyms. Does that mean I'm not a people?
Get a grip. Not everything is a conspiracy theory. Maybe they are getting good press because *gasp* they are doing good things? Too complicated a concept eh?
But now I'm going to be labeled a fan-boy or something. Oh well. I'll believe the bad stuff if it gets published. Until then I bore of the conspiracy theory nuts. Just me tho.
Chris
There are those who stay in because they love what they do, and they honestly care about the people who work for them, but they're few and far between
You must have been in the Army. As a Marine there are TONS of people who stay in for 'The Love of the Corps' and the life that goes with it.
There are TONS that don't like the life and get out or, as you said, know they would be failures on the outside so they stay in. And tons that get lured out of the military due to their skills for the money they'd get outside.
Atleast that's my experience with the Marines I work with. I'm considering staying in for those reasons... good money and freedom on the outside is something I have to consider as well
Just because someone got out of the military doesn't mean the 'washed out'. washed out means something dirogetory from my eyes
:)
Being in the military I can tell you there are alot of Good and Bad that get out of the military after 4 years of service - with an honorable service record. I know this may be surprising but, *GASP*, some people don't like military life and CHOOSE not to continue.
Some go far in life, some don't. But to say that someone who is prior military is 'washed out' doesn't do them justice.
(Yeah... my spelling is attrocious. Deal with it. I'm to tired to use spell check
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/41942.html Good article on this April Fools joke.
I've rarely used it with the internal without a full charge... out of habit. I have my laptop plugged in most of the time, leaving it fully charged obviously. The times I would discharge my laptop is normally on purpose - on occasion just so it remembers what it's like to be empty.
The few times I would fully charge the external - and then unplug it (or lose power the my building) it would last up to 2 hours and down to 30 minutes.
I've not had that much luck with mine.
After the first set of batteries had to be replaced (Props to Valence for that... replacing them from Iraq was a pain and they made it as flawless as possible)
With BOTH packs charged full, I can only seem to get half an hour out of both packs. I have a zd7260us HP laptop (17 inch screen, 3200 intel *NOT* centrino, 5200 NVidia'2'Go... power hog) I figured these problems were because of my hungry laptop.
Anyone know of good FAQ's on how to get the best life out of an external battery - specifically the 2nd Gen Valence Batteries? I hadn't thought of looking until reading this thread.
It would be no different than Microsofts pathetic use of IE. They used their monopoly to win the browser war and they have barely touched the browser since.
The only reason they are begging to ramp up the timetable on the IE updates is *drum roll* Firefox and competition.
It's not that there would be NO movement without AMD/Intel duking it out... it would just be slower and more expensive.
Those who think it ain't more expensive look at the cost of spyware/scumware removal due to Microsofts ignoring IE due to market dominance. That's the only one example of many.
Yeah, I know. But just like you I'm posting anyways. Atleast I'm not ac :P
Where does the Soviet Russia jokes originate from? Just call it morbid curiosity, but it's the only running joke i've noticed that I really don't understand.