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Revenge of the Sith a "Blood Bath"
An anonymous reader writes "The BBC is reporting that the Revenge of the Sith is a blood bath and is to recieve a PG-13. One notable point from the article is Lucas is quoted as saying "But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters. I'm making them because I'm telling a story, and I have to tell the story I intended." As he lit a cigar with a large stack of burning 20's."
With a PG-13 rating, parents will be forced to go with their children to watch the movie, so not only you get the expected children tickets, you now have as many adult tickets too, and the extra drink and popcorn sales. Truly a great success.
Now imagine if this superfan camping out for 139 days is under 13....
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Yuh-hunh. Sin City and Kill Bill Volume 1 move over, this one's a blood bath. OOOOooooo....
That's the problem with them damn Brits, they don't realize it's boobies in movies that's the real corrupting influence, not a little innocent killing and maiming.
Freaking Jedi mind tricks...
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I already knew that.
I know that it is hard to break tradition by going with a PG-13 movie; maybe the story line will be dark as promised. GL has been getting to squishy with Ewoks and Jar-Jar but if he does it right it will all be the calm before a storm.
Then I hope that GL release an un-rated director cut that will scare the bejebus out of who ever watches it; thus, causing a call to arms for censorship from radicals. The first stage of the war would be an invasion of some third world country as a diversion. The second stage would be to build an army so that none can rival the censorship force. The third stage would be to squash any rebellions and form an empire of censorship reminiscence of the pre-era of Ozzy music made me a killer trial. Now that would be a good prequel recursive story.
If you've read the dog of a script, then you know that it's stunningly bloody. Don't click on that link if you don't want to know everything - the whole script is there.
But this is slashdot. A slashdoter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber!
...Jar Jar meets a painful demise, I am happy.
"Useless organic meatbag" -HK-47
Since all the Jedi are going to be killed, shouldn't we expect a blood bath?
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Yeah...we know all about the story you intended, George.
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Ok...
I guess we need to figure out how we kill Jedi in a soft well meaning conservitive and correct manner. (They can't all whisk away to ghosts can they? What's that about anyway?)
Besides, I'd rather not watch an hour and a half of G.I. Joe style combat.
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he gave an impromptu review on XFM in the UK yesterday.
I can't believe it but after all the disapointments I've got myself excited about it again..
BBC enjoys dupes too? We've known it's gonna be a PG-13 for quite a while.
Actually, this will probably only hurt the sales. Most of the top movies for the year are rated PG. And, on average, PG movies make more money than R rated movies. I haven't heard the statistics for PG-13, but I'm guessing it would have the same negative effect an R rating has.
Also, I don't know of any theater that enforces the PG-13 rating. The AMC movie theaters do enforce the R rating though.
Forget the whales - save the babies.
and a warning to the effect would have been nice.
If it was really a blood bath, it would be rated R. There's probably not gonna be anything more violent here than what we saw in Spider-Man 2.
On the other hand, I think the previous two Star Wars movies have been some of the most violent PG-rated films since the introduction of the PG-13 rating in the 80s. So, if MPAA is continuing to rate Star Wars on a curve just because it's targetted at children, maybe my original analogy is wrong after all.
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...would love to see Jar Jar Binks' death scene.
Circumcision is child abuse.
I hate it when directors cut down a movie just for a rating. This is a good thing. "A lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?" he said. He's not preventing them from seeing it. He's just warning the parents that it may not be suitable for them. The parents get to decide wether or not they want their children to see it.
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"A lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?" he said.
Uh, sure. There's lots and lots of parents monitoring fanboy sites and complaining to Lucasfilm about the rating of an unreleased film. I know every time I have a concern about an upcoming Star Wars movie, I just get George on the phone to complain...
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters.
No way, dude!. I couldn't tell that from the previous 2 movies!!
Perhaps the lack of computer effects was the reason why the original 3 movies were so successful.
is to slaughter all the idiotic characters introduced in episodes I and II in as painful and drawn out way as possible.
Oh wait, they really fuck up Anakin. Ok, 1 down, now throw in some serious Jar Jar retribution. Think "exploding frog".
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In my state (NC), at least, PG-13 is not a binding rating.
(Theoretically) A 7 year old could walk up and get into it without a parent. It's not like R, where it is enforced parental guidence, it's just a strong SUGGESTION.
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Does this suprise anyone? We all know the story already. Darth Vader doesn't become Darth Vader with out some serious action. A clone army is not going to win a war with out a large loss of life. Yoda is not going to just leave the hot zone to live on some God forsaken swamp planet because a few people died. We've all know that it would take thousands and thousands of dead clones and mutilated Jedi.
On top of that, it has to be so bloody that we all lose hope. Otherwise, why would there be a "New" hope?
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I love it when a good plan comes together.
"But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters."
Unfortunately, Luca is not a good story teller. He is great at effects and the details that bring a vision to life. He really needed Spielberg.
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Thankfull to Mr. Lucas we will get to hear this bloodbath in THX (tm) surround.
on the rumors that Spielberg might take over the helm and make the last three episodes?
Anyone?
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Of course, there WAS no such rating when the original trilogy was released - just G, PG, and R. That said, I don't think any of the originals would have qualfied even if there was such a rating (which lies between PG and R, for folks outide of the US)
Was Jar-Jar part of that story he intended?
Honestly, I haven't seen any of the Star Wars movies. I started to watch Episode I, however five minutes after seeing Jar-Jar (before hearing all the controversy surrounding him) I couldn't stand the movie and walked away. Now I will certainly not see II and III, however I may go back and watch the original series.
I for one am looking forward to a darker story with Jar Jar Binks or Ewoks, something more along the lines of the Empire Strikes Back.
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Why would parents be forced to go with their children? The -13 on the PG is simply an advisory notation; G, PG, and PG-13 all have the same admission criteria: Anyone can see it, no adult supervision required.
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Decapitation of Jar-Jar!!!
Unfortunately it won't stop parents from bringing their five year screaming, whining kids to the theaters so they can throw popcorn around and kick our seat backs. Of course if the movie's as ultraviolent as everyone's making it out to be, they'll just add to the illusion of debris flying through the air and the solid punch of the subwoofer.
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* shrug *
My kids (age 13 and 17) have said they want to go see it. Last time they wanted to see a movie it was, um, I don't remember them ever both saying they wanted to see the same movie.
We'll go, probably the first weekend.
Go Darth!
(I just like to cheer for the winning side)
(Sorry for the spoiler)
(But anybody who's see Star Wars IV knew that already)
(We already know the ending. The only thing left to see is the blood!)
Raise your children as if you were teaching them to raise your grandchildren, because you are.
If he had to tell a story, he'd write a new fucking movie instead of constantly pushing the same tired one he knows will be eaten up by mindless clones (no pun) worldwide.
There are 2 types of people in the world, those who find that stupid binary joke funny, and those who don't.
Most of the fans are children, yet are their own parents as well.
or to put it simply, "What children?"
but we didn't know the excruciatingly bad details. I was really hopeful that this movie would make the other two seem worthwhile. Or at least, worth sitting through. Judging from the script... Well, I don't think so.
But this is slashdot. A slashdoter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber!
We simply want a good prequal.
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half the battle.
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
As if seeing Qui-Gon Jinn being run through and Darth Maul cut completely in half wouldn't be disturbing enough to some kids (or even a few adults)... or how about Anakin's hand arm being cut off? Or Luke's?
And those were just PG?
And some of the discussion between Anakin and Amidala about thier "first times"?
And that movie was NOT PG-13?
Lucas is using the whole ratings "controversy" as yet another way to get more free publicity!
And the media, and us, are eating it up...
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It's generally good form to warn of spoilers, especially ina major release like this - verybad form guys, come on. Not cool!
That's no blood bath. It's a bad movie!
I'm sorry, but lucas made such an unbearable mess of episodes 1 and 2 that not even a Peter Jackson inspired bloodbath could get me to pay good money to see another one of his cinematic abominations.
Spoiler Alert: Jar Jar drowns during the MonCal Water Spectacular gurgling "OH NOES! ITSA BEESA TRAP!", while a young Ensign Ackbar holds up a sign reading "9.8".
To think that this movie is somehow more violent than *this* planet is amusing. It is a restless day in which somebody is not blown to smithereens in Iraq yet I am supposed to feel outraged that the new Star Wars movie earned a pg-13 rating?
My outrage well is dry for the moment. Sorry.
I, for one, welcome the slaughter of our new Jedi Masters.
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The best films, books, music, etc, have always been made for their creators, not aimed at some identifiable market. If Lucas is serious, and I doubt very much he is but live in hope, then this is good news. Very good news. It marks a possible return from the Dark Side.
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In the UK the film got a 12A rating from the BBFC (persons under 12 admited with an adult) as are increacingly more films
Local councils still have the right to change the rating policy for any film, but only rarely do so.
The consumer advice from the bbfc is "Contains moderate fantasy violence and scary scenes" although virtually every film has some advice (Finding Nemo "Contains mild peril")
I know, I know - it's just the old, "if you don't like it, SHUT UP!" || "if you like it then post on a fanboi forum! and SHUT UP" arguments.
But seriously, you cannot fault the technical achievements of these movies.
And I know that many (if not most) are of the opinion that movies are primarily about the characters and the story, but I am of very different taste.
you see, I am the kind of guy who sits down with EPII attack of the clones and pauses the corusant scenes and goes frame by frame through them to just admire all the amazing design and creation.
I love to stare in awe at the new particle systems, the accuracy of the human computer models and the beautiful, alien landscapes painted before my eyes.
But that's me, and I am of a small minority I know. I am that small minority that actually doesn't really care for chatty movies. Didn't really think the godfather was really all that. Never sees a movie unless there are spaceships and explosions - and then only if the movie is about that universe and not just the people in it.
Nevertheless I feel that those like me should have something of a voice.
There are three movie types in my world:
1) Movies about people
2) Movies about events
3) Movies about ideas
I prefer the order of importance to be 3,2,1 and Star Wars seems to fit that type for me quite well.
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BTW, HK-47 kicks major ass. "Irritated explaination:
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The comments of "bloodbath", "horrific", and "gruesome" only come from parents and the like that haven't taken a moment to actually read the books! This stuff is already written and when I hear of parents griping and whining that little 14-year old Timmy is having nightmares is bullshit. I think those parents should catch up on some reading/research before they let their kids go see movies in the first place. Furthermore, they should take responsibility for what their kids watch, do, and say. If the rating system advises against it, then so be it. Its not like the rating system completely denies them seeing it.
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Sounds like a "two thumbs up" review to me. The only thing keeping my interest in the movies has been knowing that in the end, almost everyone dies.
If people insist on going to see them regardless, then what incentive does he have to change his methodology? Many people on slashdot would go and see episode 3 if it was made from bad sock puppets and shoeboxes. Personally, I went and saw episode 1, came away disappointed and havent seen episode 2 yet, and I have no intentions of seeing episode 3 at all. I also havent bought any of the butchered 'remastered' versions of the origional trilogy for similiar reasons.
A friend of mine in the entertainment industry told me that in Episode 6, the ewoks were originally supposed to be wookies. The marketing and merchandising departments convinced Lucas to create ewoks instead, and to make them cute and cuddly and merchandisable. I could believe this because the tree house homes of the ewoks look identical to the tree house homes of the wookies in the SW games. Does anyone know if this was true or not?
Lucas is quoted as saying "But I have to tell a story. I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters. I'm making them because I'm telling a story, and I have to tell the story I intended." As he lit a cigar with a large stack of burning 20's."
I won't begrudge him the darkness or the money so long as he kills all the fucking Gungans!
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He said the exact opposite about two months ago, saying the movie would be not be a bloodbath, but would be dark. He said he knew some fans wouldn't like it, but tough. I wish I still had the link....
I for one, won't be seeing it in the theatre, he's already fooled me twice.
I would have thought that the lightsabers would cauterize the wounds and produce no blood.
I'm HIGHLY anticipating this movie. Pick up the latest issue of TIME and thyey gave it a good review which makes me really wonder if this is the real deal. It seems Lucas put a lot of work into it and seems worth my $9.25 + popcorn!
the will be midchlorideans everywhere, fortunatly you can use the force to hold yourself together until you heal.
What do I know? I'm just making this crap up on the fly...just like GL
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I think Jar Jar represents that hope Anakin feels. Jar's death, if it is shown, will probably be among many casualties that push Ani to teh Dark Side, and the Jedi to desperation.
Oh yeah, and it'll make us cheer QUITE loudly afterwards too...but you knew that.
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George Lucas has said that he wants to make the movie however he wants and isn't interested in whether or not fans are dissapointed. I have to say, I have alot more respect for him for actually going out and doing what he wants instead of giving in to the pleas of fanatical Star Wars fans.
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Even more hilarious is the intro to the cover article of Wired
Life After Darth
George Lucas was born to make underground films. Then a little movie called Star Wars lured him to the dark side. Can the father of the blockbuster really rediscover his avant-garde soul?
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That's a good point. The ratings specify for R that children under 17 are not permitted, while parents are simply cautioned about inappropriate material for PG-13.
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Of course, this is all still voluntary. There's no legal enforcement. However, I do know some movie theaters enforce the R rating (as I mentioned originally).
Forget the whales - save the babies.
Here's the thing...as an adult, yes, I prefer the gritty/dark sci-fi (read: BSG.) But Star Wars? Get kind of a creepy feeling, watching a film that appeals to my more mature dark side that is part of a series from my childhood. I have to emotionally transition from 7 to mid-30's somehow while watching a movie? Just doesn't jive.
Previous 5 fliks were PG, 6th should be the same; Lucas et. al. shouldn't cave and prevent me from watching the end of a series with my kids that I enjoyed as a kid myself.
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Of course, on that discussion, it's obligatory to quote George Carlin,
And uh, people much wiser than I have said, I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a step further. I would like to substitute the word fuck, for the word kill in all those movie cliches we grew up with. 'Okay Sheriff, we're gonna fuck ya now. But we're gonna fuck ya slow.' -- George Carlin
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With a PG-13 rating, parents will be forced to go with their children to watch the movie
Any father with children under 13 is young enough to want to see this movie himself anyway.
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Does anyone else remember when Lucas tried to excuse EP1 by saying, "Some people don't understand that I make movies for children"?
Here's the full quote:
"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that. In the first film they absolutely hated R2 and C3-PO. In the second film they didn't like Yoda and in the third one they hated the Ewoks... and now Jar Jar is getting accused of the same thing."
So, a blood bath for kids?
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It's a bloodbath yet he kept out the frames of the bolts of Lasers hitting the Imperial guards and Storm Troopers from the OT. Whats the deal?
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I never saw much blood or bleeding caused by lightsabres in the previous five movies. If a light sabre is pure light encased in a force field, wouldn't it, like a laser, cauterize any wounds? And with the Sith shooting lightning bolts out of their fingertips wouldn't it be more of a cookout?
Q: What's for dinner?
A: Roast Jedi in a light Sith sauce.
"You'll get nothing, and you'll like it!"
...write a book. Oh! Wait! Those don't make as much money.
Is is just me, or is everyone really sick of Lucas' blatant bald-faced lying? We'll go see your damn movies George - but you don't have to bullshit us every time you open your mouth near a reporter.
And for the record GL, nobody, but nobody believes you intended them to be a trilogy. Or a trilogy of trilogies. No matter how many times you say it. If they were - the stories would be more coherent. Unless of course you intended the main love scene of the first (fourth?) movie to be a passionate kiss between a brother and sister. You freak.
Well...there goes my karma for the day. But it felt good.
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rediculous.
Still can't believe that there was a movie with Samuel L Jackson where he didn't say the words "fuck" or "shit".
The only way you'd get anything worse than PG-13 would be if you had scenes of direct violence and a gruesome reaction. Say a lightsaber swing is filmed that cuts through someone. For an 'R' rating, we'd need to be shown blood being boiled (cauterization), sinews being severed and burned, AND the person would have to be looking and screaming or something while the lightsaber was in them. Just seeing people getting cut and falling down motionless won't cut it. I wouldn't find that too appealing (hey I can just watch Sin City again) but it would be funny if someone did do that.
Of course one nud scene of a cetain actress would put it over R instantly. I don't think anyone (cept parents) would object to that.
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i don't know how you got modded 'insightful'.
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I mean, like, satanic woodland creatures style?
...or maybe not.
Screenwriter magazine this month has an article on Star Wars. I spend my lunch hours in bookstores wayyyy too often.
Anyhow, the article is about how Lucas wanted to perpetuate the ties to mythic storytelling in his saga. Even though in '77, his initial interviews talked about little more than a Western in space, once the connections to Joseph Campbell's The Power of Myth started happening, Lucas didn't exactly go out of his way to deny it.
I wonder if that, more than anything, overly influenced the latter trilogy. The epic fall from grace. Suddenly, I have visions of Lucas sitting around reading Milton and having inner dialogs about why Satan gets all the zingy one liners.
There's a ton of ways to read into Star Wars. The ancient Sith / Jedi split invokes the Jesuits, right down to the robes and the dress. If you've read the final script, you know that (spoiler ahead)
Anakin forsees the death of his beloved again and again (in very vividly written scenes) and it torments him, as he wants his children, but it starts to drive him mad, and he agrees to become Sith only to gain the power to change the future and save the woman he loves. But, in the end, when he thinks Obi-Wan has betrayed him, he force chokes her and nearly kills her. in fact, Sidious tells him later that his force choke DID kill her, which drives him right over the edge.
There's a strong influence of Greek tragedy in this script. Cheating death, changing fate. Being at the height of your intellectual and phsyical powers in your late 20's, thinking that the world owes you, that you are the sole master of your destiny and finding your mortality is still all too real.
The script is brutal. If it's shot that way, it would be a stark departure from the first two. The final scene between Anakin and Obi-Wan was suprising in it's adultness. He falls into the lava, his legs are burning, he can't get up. He's clawing the sand... all of his conceits wash away. No more rationalizations of how totalitarianism is somehow more benign, he just cringes and screams at Obi-Wan, hs face twisted and red "I hate you!!!". Obi-Wan leans down, a tear streaming in his eyes and responds "I always loved you. Like a brother." and walks away leaving him to burn.
That's serious Campbell territory. The mentor relationship, the hero who fails the test because jealousy consumes him.
So, when Lucas says 'I needed to tell this story', what I really think is happening is that he needs to fufill the power of myth aspects. This film is a violent fable. The father falls, the son redeems him. His fall needs to be brutal and ultimately apolitical. Anakin doesn't want power for power's sake. He wants respect, he wants everyone to love him and adore him. He has a God complex. There are many levels there.
I have a feeling that this movie will leave everybody wondering all the ways the first two could be redone. Anakin should have picked up in his early 20's someplace NOT tattooine. His struggle as a slave, beaten and oppressed, would have forced him into spirituality (not chemistry) and a brutal desire for acceptance and hatred for oppression that ultimately twisted around until the only way he could fufill that was to become the oppressor.
Oh, and the scene where he kills all the padawans, that could have been brutal if it had a flashback to his slave days. As it is, it's just disturbing and the script invokes Columbine somewhat, with the imagery focusing on his black cloak.
Queen Amidala: Oh no! some invisible force has removed my clothing!! I must put on some clothing.
Degenerate Jedi: You don't need to put any clothes on (waves hand in front of face).
Queen Amidala: I don't need to put on any clothes...
Degenerate Jedi: Yeah know, they say once you go darkside you never go back.
(que cheesy sci-fi music with inappropriate back beat)
You get the idea.
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Yes could see that! Your eyes may bleed after watching George Lucas' latest atrocity against the StarWars franchise leaving you soaked in your own blood.
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How can you have a blood bath when light sabers seal any cuts they make?
I like muppets.
George Lucas does not use cash to light his cigars. And I really wish people would stop characterizing him as such.
He uses the $20 bills as toilet paper (due to their cottony softness). He uses orignial Shakespearean manuscripts to light his cigars.
In the future, please be more sensitive.
"I should have done this with The Phantom Menace."
It's not just the BBC, it's http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7734108/, and http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/04/film. starwars.rating.ap/index.html too...
Interesting how the text is nearly identical...
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Are most Star Wars fans under the age of 13? The first movie is 28 years old, so even if you were born 10 years after it all started you could still get in to see this movie. In fact if you were 13 when A New Hope came out, you'd be old enough to have kids who are old enough to get in without your permission. Though I doubt many 40 year old hardcore Star Wars fans have kids, seeing as they're still living in their parent's basements.
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Exactly. I'm sick of being taken for a sucker by Lucas. That, and seeing Yoda hawking Pepsi and learning that Darth Vader like Kellog's Corn Flakes just about did it for me.
Oh, that and Jar Jar. My god that was horrible. How any self-respecting fan of science fiction can still watch anything made by the man responsible for Jar Jar is beyond me. I like my SF with an edge, not pussified like Lucas does it.
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lame. blatant disregard for the value of money demands that your cigar be lit with 1 or more benjamins.
20s are only acceptable for asswiping.
Just telling a story?
Then, tell us the story about how Jar-Jar bites it, quickly. How an Ewok doesn't dare show its fuzzball face again. And a story sans the trite trade disputing snorkle headed aliens.
I'm leaving out a dozen or so other Happy Meal Fodder ideas that crept into episode I and II.
Use The Force Lucas!
Anyone remember Titanic? Frontal nudity and PG-13, they had like 200 million, I figure 150 of that million was to bribe the movie raters.
My kids are going to be bummed. Lucas screwed up and just excluded a big group. My 4 kids won't be seeing it with a PG-13 rating. Thanks Lucas, they WERE looking forward to this.
...But what about the news? I have seen on the news a guy have his head cut off, and it was real. The whole PG-13 rating is a sham anyway. Why should a 12-year-old not get to see the same blood that runs through his body as a 13-year-old? I guess it's like the documents that they put in airplanes, that instruct how to die with an oxygen mask on your face.
69 EXT. CORUSCANT-SENATE OFFICE BUILDING-LANDING PLATFORM-LATE AFTERNOON The small Jedi Shuttle carrying PALPATINE and the JEDI arrives at the landing platform. There are a DOZEN SENATORS, including BAIL ORGANA, JAR JAR BINKS, and C-3PO, waiting for them. PALPATINE, R2-D2, and ANAKIN get out. OBI-WAN and MACE stay in the doorway of the Jedi Shuttle.
I'm gonna come right out and say it. BS.
Your kids are gonna see it because they want to, not because you won't let them. I mean its only PG-13. Hell the nightly news would be rated PG-13 is they applied ratings to them with the same "standards".
And sassy robots. Mustn't forget the sassy robots.
As I remember my stacks of Fangoria and all those movies that made me ROFL with an R rating.
I'd like to say Way to go George? When I can get the director's R cut? I want to see Anakin lay down some serious smack producing a bounty of twitching gibs - Sidius burn goodie-goodie two-shoes to smoking yet recognizable lumps.
I was soooo bent out of shape when Paul Verhoven cut out the excessive gore from Total Recall to get a PG-13 and he still got an R rating.
Remember, gibs are good. And my kids love gibs too.
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"A lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?"
The kids can go see it. Their parents/guardian just need to be present.
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This is good anyway. Last thing I want is another 7 year old girl screaming behind me like when Vader was pounding away on Luke in Cloud City during ESB (when it re-released back in theaters years ago). Of course it did add to the effect.
"I for one am looking forward to a darker story with Jar Jar Binks or Ewoks, something more along the lines of the Empire Strikes Back."
How about Jar Jar Binka AND Ewoks? Now there's a dark movie.
You act like merchandising and product promotion are something new. Need I remind you that Star Wars even had its own Breakfast Cereal? And let's not even talk about the toys, the TV specials, the books, the games, the crisps, and so-on.
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You'll know swearing has gone a long way towards acceptance when "F*** this s***" is an example in elementary school grammar.
"That is correct, 'F***' is the verb and 's***' is the noun"
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...but perhaps Lucas is losing his focus..
.. visual STORIES.
He wants it to be all colorful and vibrant so he gives us episode 1 with lush green hills, bright yellow naboo fighters and purple lightsabers...
Episode 2, Lucas thinks people want to see Yoda kicking ass... so what do we get? A green jumping bean with a switchblade sized lightsabre.. jedi's with fleshy dreadlocks, and the cheesiest most shallow acting known to man..
He hears his fans screaming for a darker Star Wars and so he delivers a "blood bath".. which I believe will be just as big a flop as the others.. because George just keeps focusing on the visuals and not on the storyline.. and isn't this what movies are
If the story portion fails, the whole thing fails... just ask anyone who plays video games with great graphics and bad gameplay.
Lucas needs to stop trying to deliver what he thinks the audience is asking for and FOCUS on getting a good story together...
78% gave up on 1st day in iCLOD city. Can you survive there? [iclod.com]
Perhaps, because it's uh... not that great?
I thought it WAS made from bad sock puppets and shoeboxes. It worked for Eps 1 & 2.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Yeah, but you can pretty much see that she's going to add her litres of blood to the bath. On a positive note, Jar Jar probably will too, only it'll be green or something.
everything must go, gotta clear the decks for setting episode iv
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In the orignal VHS trilogy release, Lucas states that the wookies were a race of primitives that help the rebels defeat the empire on endor.
When he chopped up the original story into three, he wasn't sure that he would make the second two, and really wanted to include a wookie, so he made chewbakka a co-pilot, and upped his intellegence to boot.
When it was time for ROTJ, he needed "wookies". Hence the birth of the ewoks. No doubt with some marketing help.
The movies are already a bloodbath. What was the population of Alderaan again?
You mean, you won't allow them to see it. You're the one depriving them, not George Lucas.
If the movie had been given a PG rating with the exact same content, would it have suddenly been "okay" for them to watch it?
Or are you bitching that Lucas didn't make the movie you wanted him to make? Cry me a fucking river.
You might try being a parent. Has it occurred to you that you might go see the movie first on your own, and determine for yourself if it's appropriate for them?
A propos this story, the CBC posted a story yesterday with the title, Movie ratings are misleading on violence: study.
The gist of the report is that some films rated PG have as much or more violence as some films rated R. This is no surprise, of course (we all know about lies and statistics), but it's a bit of grist for the mills of those who suggest that ratings, reflecting local social and political mores, often are influenced too much by things that may not be that bad for well-parented children, and not enough by those things that may be much worse.
Well, that would work for most things.... but there's only going to be 1 Episode 1, 1 Episode 2, and 1 Episode 3. It's not like I can say, "Well, I heard Episdoe 2 was bad, I'll not buy this one and wait for the next Episode 2 to come out."
So did he light this cigar with the stack of burning 20's at the Tycoon Convention?
I think Jar-Jar will survive, unfortunately. Lucas can't kill him - he's cute, see, and funny, and goofy. (Please note sarcarsm there). Jar-Jar will survive by bearing Luke and Leia away to safety, or something like that. He's not going to be in the big bloodbath. In fact, some jedis will stay behind and get killed just to save his butt. It will make the fans howl in rage, but hey, do you honestly think Lucas will miss an opportunity to shove a turd like that down everyone's collective throat? Of course he won't.
When they cut a movie to avoid an NC-17 rating, it's because most theaters won't show NC-17 movies. So his option is to either cut it or send it direct to video.
When they cut a film to get PG-13 rating rather than R, usually those are summer-action-blockbuster types that are counting on teenagers to see. Their goal is to pack in violence/boobies to get the 13-18 year olds out in droves, but not enough to lose them to the R rating (which some theaters actually enforce). Usually those movies aren't all that good to start with, so you're not losing all that much by having some bit of gore/nudity removed. Yeah, it's the artist's "vision", but for summer action blockbusters the "artist" is usually visualizing money.
With the NC-17 films cut down to R, yeah, sometimes you're losing an auteur's actual work. Team America had some gags cut that were beyond the pale for the MPAA. They're restored on the DVD.
That's the solution to the free speech dilemma: you're free to film whatever you like; the theaters are free not to show it; you're free to buy the unrated DVD. The only lack of freedom is that the artist can't force the theater to show their movie any way they want.
PG-13 rating was reported a while ago:
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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/11/09162
Anyway...I am getting severely GEEKED to go see this movie.
Of course it's going to be a bloodbath....what part of Anakin/Darth Vader falling into lava do you NOT understand??
Gorkman
It's a little bit misleading to call Episode 3 "bloodbath" when there is not a single drop of blood anywhere in it. :) True, there are some severed limbs and heads and (very stylized) burnt flesh but all "cuts" are very clean and quick (the reasoning probably being that lightsabers automatically cauterize the wound). The terrors are mostly psychological, due to surprisingly good directing and few neat plot ideas. (E.g. we don't ever SEE Anakin killing the Jedi kids but we know very clearly he did it)
--- Frantisek Fuka (Yes, that's my real name and you have no idea how it's pronounced)
The original AP article can be found here.
So, instead, a token effort is made to protect children from severed limbs - while natural parts of a healthy life are [censored].
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
"I'm not making these, oddly enough, to be giant, successful blockbusters. I'm making them because I'm telling a story, and I have to tell the story I intended." As he lit a cigar with a large stack of burning 20's.
If he's not in it for making blockbuster movies/money, then why didn't he light his cigar with a huge stack of $100 dollar bills instead? He's got nearly as much money off of the Star Wars movies alone as much as Sony has made cash off the PS and PS2 combined (not including the PSP, which, IMHO, is nice, but for a portable platform, could be cartridge based instead of slow CD/DVD based.)
He owns the company, he SHOULD be worried about the money it makes. He has people to pay, you know.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
a Death Star full of people (a.k.a. Stormtroopers) killed.
What about the countless number of contractors working on board the Death Star? They were innocent!
"It's a very tangled subsystem." --Windows kernel guru
Why single out PG-13... _all_ MPAA ratings are jsut advisory notations with no legal basis.
It is not illegal for a youngster to go to an R movie. It is not illegal for theatres (or anyone else) to show R movies to youngsters.
I think only in the last 10 years have theatres started to really enforce the age restrictions. But these are internal policies, not law.
Additionally, I believe there's no law prohibiting youngsters from seeing NC-17 movies based on rating alone. If the NC-17 movie contains pornography, of course, then that would be punishable under other laws.
(IANAL, of course)
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...they mean a bunch of clone troopers falling over with sparks flying off their useless armor.
A nude Natalie Portman would easily triple viewership of the movie.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
Watch your damn language, some of us are fucking christians!!
Young anakin is actually DARTH VADER!!!
Meh.
what about SEX?!
Well-put! In fact, that's one of the things my talking Jar-Jar Binks doll says. He also says "Ewoks are cute and cuddly; collect all 50!" and "Meesa stereotype, yousa hate n*ggers".
I guess Jar-Jar was rated PG-13 for the sake of art, too...
And I thought there couldn't be more hype to follow a Star Wars movie
You should at least rent the remasters. The picture quality is absurdly nice. They did a real good job cleaning it up.
Did you catch the sock puppet version of the incredibles on DVD? That was entertaining.
:: On the second disc's "Setup" menu, wait until the little OmniDroid icon appears in the upper right of the screen. Press right to highlight the icon and hit ENTER on your remote. You will now be treated to a weird sock puppet version of the whole movie put together by Effects Artist Mach Kobayashi and crew. ::
Actually, episode 3 might be more enjoyable with sock puppets - then they could do away with the handful of bad casting decisions from the first two movies and put in people who can act.
May the 4th be with you! :)
Children under 13 can still attend the movie in the US if they are accompanied by an adult, however.
Do you know how many people I see bringing their 5 year old kids into violent R-rated movies? It's ridiculous.
Lucas said he was getting "a lot of flak" from parents concerned about the film's US rating.
"A lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?" he said.
Oh for %^&#%^()%$# sake! Yanno, I'm a fan of Star Wars, even of the new movies, but if I were to miss the 12:01 showing of episode 3 (yes I'm going to that!) I won't be terribly disappointed. My son wants to go to the 12:01, but I won't let him because it's a school night. We'll see it on the weekend together when we have time.
My son was something like 5 I think when they re-released the original trilogy on the big screen. He was immediately hooked. If he was 5 when this movie came out, I'd go see it first then decide if I could take him. If I said no, then my son is going to have to live with that. It's not going to kill anyone not to see these movies, even a fan. I admit I'm lucky here because he's 13. Frankly, I think he can deal with it now, and not just because he's 13.
If we had to miss this movie because of some life altering event which required my attention, I'd grow up and deal with it and you better believe I'd make him grow up real quick.
Lucas on an artistic level owes me a decent movie, but on a parenting level he owes me jack shit.
Frankly this is just another symptom of Hollywood. They hype the hell out of something, then a restriction gets placed on it, and people get upset because they think they are entitled to this. It's a vicious circle?
Where the hell am I going with this? I don't know. Parents want entertainment catered to their exact whims, and think that some how people owe them exactly what they want. Hollywood wants everyone to go to every movie, but yet absolve themselves of responsibility in case someone decides to take their 3 year old to "Alien vs. Predator" because "Well we did tell you the rating on that movie was inappropriate for children."
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So at the start of Episode 4, Yoda and Obi-wan are like the only Jedi still alive. This movie starts out with a bunch of Jedi living. BUT I NEVER EXPECTED A BLOOD BATH!!!!!!!!
Be the first on you block to own the new Star Wars (TM) Action Figures with realistic blood squirting action!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Trying to steal our fond memories and make money. I saw Ep 1 didnt like it. I won't watch anymore. Won't buy the DVDs either.
Lucas is BAD.
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my apologies.
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Welcome our Gungan blood-letting overlords...
Actually, the BBC reports that it will likely receive a PG-13 rating, since they (unlike the editors of /.) know how to spell their native language.
Why link to answers.com when the only information they have comes directly from the ad free Wikipedia?
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Jebus... 5 mod points, and I've already replied to this story. Doh!
For the moderators who thought the parent was "redundant": The parent is quite correct. Arguably a troll, and not very well informed, but not at all redundant.
The grandparent *is* linking to a copyrighted work... perhaps. Actually, I'm pretty seriously doubtful that it's real. If it *is* real, I'm very disapointed as it lacks several things:
1. No balance restored to the force (Lucas said point-blank that this was something resolved in ep 3, back when ep 1 came out).
2. Band-aid resolution to the ghost-jedi issue from ep 4-6, and nothing that would justify Obi Wan's comment from 4 ("If you cut me down...")
3. From what I've heard many of the events in the script are in the wrong time sequence.
4. It directly conflicts with other plot summaries on the same site!
I am not really keen on the StarWars hype, I found the first three ones entertaining, but mesa lost interest with the first new one. However, if they made it from bad sock puppets and shoeboxes I think I'll actually see it. I think it'd be funny.
they can have as much as they want.
... [grin]
But, I suppose as a parent, I'll have to force myself to watch the movie before I take my son to see it
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Most of you Star Wars Nerds WILL DIE ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!
But how are you going to get B.A. to ride on a spaceship, Hannibal?
Whatever the film's nature....
:)
MAY THE 4TH BE WITH YOU!
The cutesy Ep1, the disappointing, grating whining in Ep2, will all be worth it if we get to see *EVERYBODY WE HAVE GROWN TO DISLIKE DIE OR BE MAIMED IN ONE GLORIOUS EVIL-TAKES-ALL BATTLE AFTER ANOTHER!*
Who do we dislike? It's obvious isn't it?
The Jedi Council of course : Elitist to the last and annoyingly aloof, they flaunt the laws they supposedly protect. Down with the Jedi Council!
Who do we like who's going to survive?
Yoda. He's more of an observer advisor on the council than anything else, shaking his head and acting sad, because you know he knows what's coming. Plus he's a little dynamo with a lightsabre.
Obi-Wan lacks the cynicism of the older council, and is directly responsible for teaching Annakin er.. sorry, Vader, the ways of the force, Obi is thus partly responsible for the death of all those annoying, obnoxious Jedi. Even that one with the ugly blue tentacles coming out of his head.
If you step back a moment, you could even forgive Lucas for butchering the first two movies if you believe he was simply propping up all those characters just to LET THEM ALL SUFFER in Ep3!
Ha ha ha.. What more poetic justice than that? Oh the irony..
WE ASKED FOR IT, maybe we'll get it after all? Woo!!
Did you adjust for inflation?
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Am I the only person who liked this movie?
as a major selling point for the DVD release ...
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I guess we need to figure out how we kill Jedi in a soft well meaning conservitive and correct manner. (They can't all whisk away to ghosts can they? What's that about anyway?)
Besides, I'd rather not watch an hour and a half of G.I. Joe style combat.
Exactly it. It's perfectly acceptable in today's new whiled order for them to die heroically in battle, fighting the forces of evil, etc. If they were to simply be led into a room and gassed it wouldn't be right.
Watch for yellow ribbons 'I support the remaining Jedi in their heroic struggle against the Evil Empire'
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Just last weekend I saw a PG movie that used the word "Belgium" in it multiple times. What is the world coming to? Is nothing decent anymore?
I'm totally in favor of artistic expression and all that, but this could not in any way be considered a "serious screenplay." I don't like censorship, but there are certain things they shouldn't be allowed to put in movies.
What really would we lose if the terrorist win?
Pre-emptive war against a country that couldn't possibly attack us unless they mailed grenades to everyone in the United States with a big, "Pull ring to open package," sign. Locking up 16 year old girls on trumped up charges with no recourse. Disappearing thousands of people with no recourse. Torturing prisoners with nobody in charge held accountable. Killing over a hundred thousand innocents. Slowly installing a theocracy through the back door. What do you mean, if the terrorists win?
Why single out PG-13... _all_ MPAA ratings are jsut advisory notations with no legal basis.
You mean no CRIMINAL legal basis. Theaters must enforce R and NC-17 ratings for movies distributed by members of the MPAA as a contractual condition of being able to show movies distributed by MPAA members.
Theaters are under no obligation to the distributors to regulate who may see G, PG, or PG-13 movies.
That's not to say a movie theater couldn't decide on it's own to not allow 12 year olds to see PG-13 movies, but if any do enforce such a policy, it's extremely rare, and entirely voluntary on a theater-by-theater basis.
paintball
Bullshit. Video games are.
So what if this is the first Star Wars movie to get a PG-13 rating? The first three were relased before the PG-13 rating existed.
Episode(s) IV-VI didn't deserve R ratings and PG-13 wasn't an option.
LK
"Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him." - Lord Kano
By the time the triliogy reaches DVD, there will a PG version, a PG13 version, and a R version (scenes of sith/padame love included) for all to enjoy.
There's nothing like changing a movie before it comes out on DVD when it's not good enough in our own twisted mind.
"As he lit a cigar with a large stack of burning 20's."
" I love it when a good plan comes together."
"But most of all, I resent the smell of those burning 20's, however subtle they may be, competing with the aroma of my fine cuban cigars..."
That's funny because there have been 3 each of Episodes 4-6 so far, and for some reason, I wouldn't be too surprised if there's at least one more of all six before it's all over with.
I mean, they're gonna take their kids to see it anyway, right? I've seen parents take kids that are 3-4 years old to violent Rated R movies. I'm surprised anybody complained.
Too bad he made the emperor like Giminy Glick(martin short's tv show). The voice changes pitches like a cartoon character or something, and he laughs like a moron. Quite distracting. Also, i'd suggest waiting a week or three before seeing it once its release. Otherwise you have to deal with all of the morons who cheer and clap at the best parts just because Yoda did a backflip or a wookie made a noise. Overall it was a great movie, better then the first two, with little dissapointment. Somethings could have been better, sure, but overall it was great.
Mission Accomplished!
"I'm George W. Bush, and I've approved this mockery of justice."
Can you imagine the uproar if Lucas did cave, in any way, to outside influences? It's a slippery slope to where Yoda wears Nike shoes and Vader sports patented Death Grip Gloves, available in stores now!
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"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein
I don't think it is a age thing. If we enjoy a movie it doesn't matter how old we are
Now where is my Cloak of Invisibility
I thought Anakin was going to bring Amidala before the council and re-enact the love dialogue from episode 2.
I'm quite glad they decided to take the "slaying" route.
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THE CLIPS, B.A.! THROW ME THE CLIPS!
Damn, now I really am dating myself.
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Let's hope that Jar Jar gets it first.
How many cinema staff do you think will deny kids an opportunity to see Star Wars? Not many methinks.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
That's counting in hex, right? Lots of computer geeks were in the audience because it was one of the first films using Computer Generated Animation and a big deal was made about it at the time.
We've known since 1977 that Darth Vader hunts down and kills nearly all the Jedi. (And we've known since 1977 that he missed a few.)
OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE VIOLENT.
What, did you think he spiked the punch at the Jedi pot luck with cyanide?
People.
Yes I will be taking my kids but I've seen all of them, the good and bad, in the theater.
I am actually more excited about Serenity (out in September.) I wonder what the rating will be on that?
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Some of the wrong people die. This isn't
'Curious George Uses the Potty.' The wrong people die, some of them, and the reason is this: Life isn't fair.
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Tweet, tweet.
I mean, it's been 28 years since the first one came out. Truly the youngest fans must have grown-up since!!!
I thought this article was refering to the queues for tickets.
But beware, clicking on this link may make you scream.
Quake in fear at Darth-Darth Binks
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Yep, it's about time George gets serious. I hope the wookies open a can of serious whoop-ass on everyone.
I hate to get flamed, but I still say.
Not just Star Wars, but many movies have blowing up big facilities which result in killing hundreds and thousands (say, the big Federation ship blown up by young anakin in episode 1), now they still rate this, so kids can view without any older people with them.
Simply put, why is that not violent? Some blood makes it violent? I wonder.
Now, these way just make people blind that blowing things up is cool and not knowing it's violent, because every adult goes 'wow, haha, yeah!, cool, yes!' when things blow up, around the kids.
Makes hard to grow kids in the right damn mind.
nothing short of intergalatic genocide will make up for the steaming pile of sesame street meets angst ridden crybaby the last two movies have blessed us with. I have every confidence that this will be at least the second best star wars movie ever.
lose != loose
Umm...that's the Jar Jar scene. Anakin/Vader apparently lets him live. And that shows you that Anakin has been allied with the Dark Side for longer than has been let on.
Oh yeah...and what's with calling Anakin "Annie?" Ye ghods and ghoddesses...that is a crime against nature. Shudder...
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Sounds like someone's been watching too much Kill Bill...
And jeez... This article makes it sound like he's going to an R rating with this one...
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They're still making those Star Wars movies? Haven't they learned anything from the plethora of other once-noble franchises that were summarily beat into a bloody pulp of mediocrity? I guess not. But the funniest thing are the throngs of "fans" who buy anything and everything Star Wars.
I have a friend who came over the other day with a zip lock bag of M&Ms. Apparently they produced a bag with some Star Wars crap on it and he had to buy it; the week before it was pop tarts and frosted mini wheats. Please people, get a grip. It's just a movie, and with the exception of the first one, a series of ever-increasing crappy ones.
Like most people, I loved the original Star Wars. I collected all the comic books and enjoyed it, but the series has been milked and destroyed. It's a shame.
How's this for something that deserves an NC-17 rating?
Say what you want, you fucking leftist, anti-American, stupid shitheads. The US of A does not deliberately target children.
Look at that picture long and hard. Assholes.
I'm not going to do what I did with EP2 (which sucked even more than Police Academy IV). Lucas has to earn my ticket this time.. If it doesn't get outstanding reviews from proper film journalists (so no paid shills or fanboys), I'll wait for it on DVD to rent.
I for one await our new sith overlords.
and I cant wait for lucus to be king.
I can only hope that episode theree is as good as this
Sorry, pal. I lost my hope after watching "Episode II".
It's quite simple: Phantom Menace came out in 1999. That's a full 6 years ago! The kids that saw that when they were 10 and loved it are now 16. Do you really think that a 16-year-old is going to find appeal in the same kind of movie he did when he was 10?
Not bloody likely. No, I suspect that Lucas is a marketing genius and he's trying to pull in the entire younger generation of film goers in much the same way he did 20 years ago. The first two originals were PG, and the 3rd was PG-13 - allowing for more age-appropriate sex (metal bikini!) and violence. The action and whiz-bang, in some respects, made up for lackluster storytelling (much as will be the case this time around), but the PG-13 rating undoubtedly convinced many 12-18 year-olds to go to Jedi because it wasn't necessarily a "children's film" anymore due to the rating.
Sure, they remember the first two being fantastic (or did, with the originals), but they're not going to go to the third one now because they're "too old" for a "kid's film" with their peers. They're "too old" for that stuff - and too socially impressionable.
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20's don't burn like that. They smolder. Geez. Where have you been?
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the director's cut DVD!
"Now including the alternate Jar-Jar death scenes."
there will be no Natalie Portman covered with hot grits scene then, given it's only a PG-13?
It doesn't need to be "brutal" you fucking moron. It doesn't have to be anything. I think if you had half a brain, you'd know that your original audience like these movies for their artistic merit, We don't want to see "brutal" save that for gimps and S&M artists. We are just geeks, fun-loving jovial, we don't want to be punished like Passion of Crhist. Get over yourself Lucas, I hope you havent turned into some kind of wierd S&M queen.
If it was rated for kids, then as I kid, I certainly didn't want to see it, in general (and wouldn't pay to do so)
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In a blackout, it can be far easier to find your lightsaber, than the torch (and yes, I have done this). So get one for your next power failure!
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"Lucas said he was getting "a lot of flak" from parents concerned about the film's US rating. "A lot of people saying how can you do this? My children love these movies. Why can you not let them go see it?" he said." Dear Concerned Parent, Before you think only of your spoilt child, I would like you to remember that I turned episodes I and II into travesties just so that your children could enjoy the films more. Not only did I make constant "poo poo" references, I included the most hated character in film history (I am now a recluse at Skywalker ranch for fear of attacks from nerdpoodoo) To adults, half the characters now sound like mental patients, and did you notice the jokes I added so i thought kids would have more fun!! I mean C3PO says "this is such a drag" and "im beside myself" dont you see what a dick this makes me look like to adults? I sell my soul to satan and all you can think about is me me me me meme! Yours gnashingly George Lucas
Maybe the true description of the movie is bloody bad . But I'm goin' to see it anyway, for sci-fi fan it is a must...
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
Sorry you missed out, but Part 2 was much more fun than Part 1. YMMV.
Obviously you've never been to Japan. Any late night program on Japanese TV would have the Moral Minority picketing the studio, assaulting the program's directors and writing letters to the newspapers about how evil and depraved the program is. The very next day the program's ratings would go skyhigh and the staff and actors would get a bonus. Sex, blood and rockn'roll sell!
Thats becuase full frontal nudity is beautiful and the word fuck isnt. Even religous nut jobs easily realise that nekkid ladies makes teenage boys realise there has to be a god. Fuck is just a word, one of the most versatile ones.
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You can't take the sky from me...
of the inarticulate motherfucker.
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Fiction. Everyone just settle down. When I was eight, I wanted to be a Jedi. I am 32 now and want to be what I am. A good dad and an average coder. I can guarantee that I will have the "sex talk" with my child far before I have that all too awkward "kill em' all, let God sort em' out" talk with her. Or maybe she will get in to early Metallica at a young enough age and save me the trouble.
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>It's not supposed to be a measure of how many tickets were sold, otherwise it would be measured in tickets sold.
The context here is measuring popularity of a movie. Popularity = people, no??
If I go to a luxury movie complex with tables and food, and paid 2x normal for my ticket, that SHOULD'T inflate ticket sales. Neither should inflation. Think of ticket sales as votes, and you can vote more than once (like Ohio and New Hampshire!)
One could argue that matinee sales contribute less $$ to a movie and so $$ *does* measure popularity. I can concede that point but it's not a huge impact.
I think you see SALES numbers for Star Wars simply because NO ONE KNOWS how many actual tickets were sold. Period.
Really? I'd thought that they pronounced 'eclipse' as "uh-CLIPS", meaning that 'the clips', pronounced "thuh-CLIPS", would be similar enough.
But then again, it's been a while.
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Most include some spoilers.
I'm glad Lucas isn't letting the ratings system control the content of his films, but I hope that I will eventually have a technological way of watching the films in a G-rated version so I can enjoy it with my kids.
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I sincerely hope that you CAN'T watch it with your kids, not until they're old enough.
It's people like you who want only pablum, and want to drag *everyone* down to be only able to see things that you deem suitable for 8 yr olds.
You probably want the FCC to push it's fundamentalist Christian standards on the other 75% of the US.
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that is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long, long time.... I laughed til I cried...
Eventually you will have a technological way of watching the film in such a way that you can enjoy it with your kids. The technology will be the same one that you use now, and the key word is "eventually". They'll not be kids forever.
I see little point in you bastardizing the film further (or rather, worse, getting someone to do so on your behalf), even if, on past form, Lucas does a pretty good job of bastardizing it anyway, nor on you presenting to your kids something as being SWIII that clearly isn't.
Don't lie to them. If it's a choice between lying and not giving them access, do the honest thing, and set a good example by not giving them access. You're instilling the wrong ethics in them from day one if you're encouraging them to believe things that are not true.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I think you failed to fully read my very short post. I said I'd like a technological way to watch it in a G-rated format. I clearly indicated I had no problem with Lucas making it anyway he wanted.
I feel the same way about fairy tales I read to my kids. I have a copy of the Brothers Grimm stories in their original [well, translated into English] 'grim' language, but since I'm reading it and my kids can't read yet, I can edit the stories while I'm reading by making the bad people/wolves/bears fall asleep or just go away instead of dying.
I don't really have a similar option for the Star Wars films (though when the orginal movies came out we bought the story os of Star Wars album which was highly edited to get it under 45 minutes - and I think relatively fit for most children). What I'd like is a program (which I think already exists) which would automatically edit out the violence when I play the DVD on my computer in a seemless way so that my kids can be exposed to the mythology I grew up with (but that I wasn't exposed to until the movies came out when I was already a teenager).
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They'll not be kids forever.
True, but I think the Star Wars mythos has come very valuable moral lessons that I think would be valuable to my kids while they are still kids. Should the stories of the Bible/Koran/Bhagavad Gita/etc. be withheld from children until they are old enough to handle all the violence and sex in those mythoi?
You're instilling the wrong ethics in them from day one if you're encouraging them to believe things that are not true.
Umm, isn't the whole point of fiction, including science fiction, at least temporarily believing something that isn't true?
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Your post is a troll, and here's why:
Your average 13 year old understands that the violence they see on screen is a fantasy, and do not view it as a scenario they would attempt to re-create in their own life.
However, the same 13 year old sees sex on screen, and feels a rush of hormones dump into their system, thus fueling a powerful urge to explore this with someone else.
Since most movies don't do a very accurate portrayal of the consequences of sexual activity, there's little or no reason for the youth to feel inhibited or take precautions.
Sex is a much more complex issue for adolescents than violence, due to the differences in their predilection to engage, and their misunderstanding of the consequences involved.
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LOL!
"Creativity is allowing ones self to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep" - Scott Adams
Oh and that makes you so very, very cool. Wow, you are just the greatest.
1. No balance restored to the force (Lucas said point-blank that this was something resolved in ep 3, back when ep 1 came out).
Er, I've been telling people since ep1: Yoda is lying.
He looks in Anakin future, and says he can't see anything. LIES!
He SAW the future! He knows! Anakin WILL bring balance to the force: There are thousands of Jedis (light) and only 2 Siths (dark). The imbalance favours the Jedis, by the time ep4 starts, there is balance: 2 Siths, 2 Jedis.
Yoda saw the awnser to the riddle of the balance of the Force, and he's not telling anyone because he's scheming to be one of the 2 surviving Jedis, the sneaky lil' bugger!
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On top of that, it has to be so bloody that we all lose hope. Otherwise, why would there be a "New" hope?
Oh, I lost all hope when I saw on the ep1 DVD a cut scene of Qui Gon sensing a camera drone, chopping it with a swift lightsaber swipe, and turning to Anakin to say "To the ship! We must hurry!"
In the movie theatre, without that scene, I was wondering "why are they running to the ship? How did Darth Maul know where the ship was?" because this scene, important to the story and chuck full of cool Jedi action, was cut "for time", whilst numerous scenes of Jar Jar stepping in shit, getting farted on, and so forth, weren't...
Clearly, Lucas choked on money and has suffered brain damage which impaired his ability to edit a movie. I had from then on no more hope.
You can't take the sky from me...
What's the adjusted amount for "Gone With the Wind" if people had the option to wait and see it on VHS/DVD/PPV/cable/TV in 1939?
- "Robots"
- "Batman Begins"
- "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
- "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire"
Why can't Episode III go IMAX?