Sounds good...but my point was Microsoft the company, and it's motivations are completely seperate from individual employees. Everyone kept saying things like they couldn't believe this MS employee wrote a well reasoned fair article and didn't say "Linux is cancer". I was just saying that most of the employees in Microsoft are not out to kill kittens and burn down the rain forest, but that they are just nerds like us.
I'm curious what made you say that using multiple languages together was difficult?
I really just meant using non-.NET languages is not easy, like in theory you can write.NET apps using perl or C++ or whatever, but this isn't well documented or supported. But in terms of what your saying the IDE won't let you make one project both VB.NET and C#...like if you had a web app and wanted the login page to use VB.NET and the shopping cart to use C# or something for some crazy reason, it won't allow that. (But since thats probably not the best idea anyways from an organizational stand point, it doesn't bother me)
That would be a much greater hassle for everyone....
Current hassle: Reset clocks twice a year
Proposed hassle: Everytime any daylight sensitive event occurs, must update everyone on specific time. So fox would say:American Idol comes on at 1:00 GMT if your New york, 02:00GMT in chicago, 3:00 GMT if your in reno, and 4:00GM if your in california, etc etc" for every single show. When you travel now, you must calculate how many time zones you went through to figure out what time you should sleep and what time you should rise...this would happen on a daily basis instead of just setting your watch once, as its harder to remember that you wake up at 13:00 GMT in california even though you've been waking up at 10:00 GMT your whole life in new york...and so on and so on. Half of the point of time is to give you a conception of what time of the day in relation to the sun being out/sleeping etc, is.
Oh but i forgot, your first posts are always either regurgitations or flamebait, and i guess i took the bait.
I see quite a few.NET web sites (look for anything with.aspx). Although it is definitely bloated, the speed at which one can develop a web app on.NET is awesome. Things that used to take hours can literally take minutes. Thats the positives...
The real hope of.NET, being able to deploy to other platforms is somewhat of a lost cause, although Mono is doing pretty well. The promise of being able to write in any programming language is also technically possible, but really not as straightforward or easy as just pounding something out in VB.NET or C#.
That said,.NET really is a good thing, and it blows old ASP, cold fusion and PHP out of the water in terms of server side pages. The next version looks even more promising, as long as it doesn't try to generate more of its own shitty javascript.
Cripes, can't you people realize that not everyone thinks in this "My team is better then yours and thats the only way it will be" mentality? Bill sounds like a reasonable open minded person, I know quite a few people that work at Microsoft and they are the same way...they are just nerds like us, that happen to have gotten a job with Microsoft. It may be fun to picture the execs at MS as shadowy figures hating all things non windows, but like Bill mentioned, most are still just techies and can appreciate Linux, Google and other cool things. That said, they are still a company trying to make a profit, and will do and say the occasional thing to defend against competition. But cripes, not everyone is so one minded as everyone on here. It's not you must LOVE firefox and HATE IE, or must LOVE IE and HATE firefox...there are plusses and minuses to everything...use what you like, let others use what they like, and go outside and ride your bike or something.
It you watch it, weather you agree with it or not, it's final premis is that the culture of fear and violence perpetrated by our foreign policy and the mass-media that supports it, that seems to cause the staggering amount of gun deaths in the US...not guns. In fact there are arguments made that it's not the guns (I remember the comparison to canada). Michael Moore himself is a member of the NRA.
Well in a way the parent was correct because Moore does a terrible job making a coherent point in the movie. The whole scene where he went to Kmart headquarters to make them stop selling bullets certainly seemed anti-gun...but he doesn't really prove "guns are bad" because he states that Canada has more guns then the US per capita, yet less murders.
1) Create a encylopedia free-for-all-editing 2) Let people all over the world fill it with content 3) Take said content, turn off free-for-all-editing 4) Profit!
Seriously though, I feel like this is what a lot of open source organizations are doing these days, for example Redhat and most recently Mozilla/Firefox....start a small project, let everyone spend lots of time on it...it then becomes really popular, and suddenly they change the model and profit.
I think the main point is that Google refusing to talk to any press that gives them bad marks is "evil" in the sense that they are trying to create spin so that no negative news is heard from them. Its similar to a controversy in Maryland where the governor won't talk to two reporters who wrote a bad article about him. Yes, it's his right, as it is Google's right...but it's generally seen as an "evil" thing to do, because now say you are writing an article about Google's latest product...if you bash it you may fear being blacklisted, so you are kind of black mailed into writing a glowing review. That's the thinking at least.
Actually Google issued that Executive Chef's crap as a press release, the free food is like 90% of their recruiting drive (knowing us programmers are fat bastards). Once they start offering free beer, maybe i'll be interested.
Because those business give you publicity? You usually just take the good with the bad. If you are Paramount and Entertainment Weekly gives one of your movies a bad rating, you can't just black list them. Because they probably help your cause more often then hurt it. CNET has wrote many good articles about Google. Blacklisting them for one article is immature.
Why don't you try checking out this site: http://next.yahoo.com/ . It's full of cool Yahoo innovations (like Google Labs). A lot of the apps on there don't get mentioned on Slashdot for some reason, but most are really cool.
Yes, Google's "dig through the help files to find the command and then type a command line-like argument" is much easier then Yahoo's complicated "just type what you want in the search bar" approach. I can see why you don't use Yahoo on principle, those fuckers just can't make things simple.
To explain this supposed hyprocracy (and feed the flamewar):
For example, many US Republicans are against abortion but in favour of the death penalty (no doubt they have their reasons)
I would say that a person receiving the death penalty had a choice in the matter, ie if you don't murder anyone, you don't get the dealth penalty (even if maybe 1% are really innocent). While a child is an innocent person 100% of the time.
Why not use the example that Democrats are against the death penalty but for abortion? (Which isnt true...MOST Americans favor the death penalty and MOST Americans favor abortion, we just like killin' stuff, regardless of politics)
Matters of unproven, unprovable faith belong in your chosen place of worship
I agree that creationism should not be taught in the classroom for this reason, but by the same token the Big Bang should not be taught in classrooms. The Big Bang theory is completely unproven, and can no easier be proved then creationism. Further more macro evolution (that we all came from the same goo) is completely unproven and unprovable. Frankly all the above theories sound as likely as leprechauns creating the universe IMO.
Kids these days don't appreciate sidescrollers on consolew. They won't be made because you gotta have "awesome 3d graphics" and "100% realism" and what not these days to supposedly sell a game.
Oh yeah thats where I was first introduced to video games too, my Shakeys was near Washington DC...I spent hours (with no quarters) just watching the demo screens and others play all those great old games, though I must have been there later then you because they had Centipead, Aarkanoid, and that game with the spys and the elevators by the time I was there....what ever happened to Shakeys anyways?
So true...all of the cool innovations in search have been coming from non google companies. Yes Google is doing all sorts of crazy shit with maps and photos and ajax...but the search is the same as ever, and Yahoo and MSN search is about equal in quality now. But where are the search innovations? Clusty has awesomely useful clustered search, Yahoo came up with that search that lets you adjust the search to find more research or more ecommerce...Yahoo demoed that social linking search engine... I mean, where is Google when it comes to the Search innovation? I hope they havn't forgotten that supposedly there goal was to be about search and only search.... It's frustrating that I still have to type a complex series of search commands into Google to get what I want.
I have...it sucks for PC games, at least in comparison to console games. The video card is the main thing that frustrates me about PC gaming though. I'm ALWAYS behind the curve:(.
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There is no one more knowledgeable about the industry then Walmart employees. Just go to any Walmart video game counter and experience the vast wealth of knowledge they possess.
I think it is too, which is why I let all the kids buy their $60 and I scoop them up for $20 used a few months later. But hey, if someone will pay it, they can charge it.
The PC ends up costing alot more though? One video card can cost you more then that whole system. And the used game market is much better for console games then PC games.
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Is better then FF7? Better then Syndicate? Better then Alone in the Dark? Common, this had to be one of the worst basketball games of all time.
And while there were only eight selectable teams and modes were limited to Exhibition and Playoffs
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Sounds good...but my point was Microsoft the company, and it's motivations are completely seperate from individual employees. Everyone kept saying things like they couldn't believe this MS employee wrote a well reasoned fair article and didn't say "Linux is cancer". I was just saying that most of the employees in Microsoft are not out to kill kittens and burn down the rain forest, but that they are just nerds like us.
I'm curious what made you say that using multiple languages together was difficult?
.NET languages is not easy, like in theory you can write .NET apps using perl or C++ or whatever, but this isn't well documented or supported. But in terms of what your saying the IDE won't let you make one project both VB.NET and C#...like if you had a web app and wanted the login page to use VB.NET and the shopping cart to use C# or something for some crazy reason, it won't allow that. (But since thats probably not the best idea anyways from an organizational stand point, it doesn't bother me)
I really just meant using non-
That would be a much greater hassle for everyone....
:American Idol comes on at 1:00 GMT if your New york, 02:00GMT in chicago, 3:00 GMT if your in reno, and 4:00GM if your in california, etc etc" for every single show. When you travel now, you must calculate how many time zones you went through to figure out what time you should sleep and what time you should rise...this would happen on a daily basis instead of just setting your watch once, as its harder to remember that you wake up at 13:00 GMT in california even though you've been waking up at 10:00 GMT your whole life in new york...and so on and so on. Half of the point of time is to give you a conception of what time of the day in relation to the sun being out/sleeping etc, is.
Current hassle: Reset clocks twice a year
Proposed hassle: Everytime any daylight sensitive event occurs, must update everyone on specific time. So fox would say
Oh but i forgot, your first posts are always either regurgitations or flamebait, and i guess i took the bait.
I see quite a few .NET web sites (look for anything with .aspx). Although it is definitely bloated, the speed at which one can develop a web app on .NET is awesome. Things that used to take hours can literally take minutes. Thats the positives...
.NET, being able to deploy to other platforms is somewhat of a lost cause, although Mono is doing pretty well. The promise of being able to write in any programming language is also technically possible, but really not as straightforward or easy as just pounding something out in VB.NET or C#.
.NET really is a good thing, and it blows old ASP, cold fusion and PHP out of the water in terms of server side pages. The next version looks even more promising, as long as it doesn't try to generate more of its own shitty javascript.
The real hope of
That said,
Cripes, can't you people realize that not everyone thinks in this "My team is better then yours and thats the only way it will be" mentality? Bill sounds like a reasonable open minded person, I know quite a few people that work at Microsoft and they are the same way...they are just nerds like us, that happen to have gotten a job with Microsoft. It may be fun to picture the execs at MS as shadowy figures hating all things non windows, but like Bill mentioned, most are still just techies and can appreciate Linux, Google and other cool things. That said, they are still a company trying to make a profit, and will do and say the occasional thing to defend against competition. But cripes, not everyone is so one minded as everyone on here. It's not you must LOVE firefox and HATE IE, or must LOVE IE and HATE firefox...there are plusses and minuses to everything...use what you like, let others use what they like, and go outside and ride your bike or something.
It you watch it, weather you agree with it or not, it's final premis is that the culture of fear and violence perpetrated by our foreign policy and the mass-media that supports it, that seems to cause the staggering amount of gun deaths in the US...not guns. In fact there are arguments made that it's not the guns (I remember the comparison to canada). Michael Moore himself is a member of the NRA.
Well in a way the parent was correct because Moore does a terrible job making a coherent point in the movie. The whole scene where he went to Kmart headquarters to make them stop selling bullets certainly seemed anti-gun...but he doesn't really prove "guns are bad" because he states that Canada has more guns then the US per capita, yet less murders.
Oh yes, I forgot...Google invented the beta...my bad.
1) Create a encylopedia free-for-all-editing
2) Let people all over the world fill it with content
3) Take said content, turn off free-for-all-editing
4) Profit!
Seriously though, I feel like this is what a lot of open source organizations are doing these days, for example Redhat and most recently Mozilla/Firefox....start a small project, let everyone spend lots of time on it...it then becomes really popular, and suddenly they change the model and profit.
I think the main point is that Google refusing to talk to any press that gives them bad marks is "evil" in the sense that they are trying to create spin so that no negative news is heard from them. Its similar to a controversy in Maryland where the governor won't talk to two reporters who wrote a bad article about him. Yes, it's his right, as it is Google's right...but it's generally seen as an "evil" thing to do, because now say you are writing an article about Google's latest product...if you bash it you may fear being blacklisted, so you are kind of black mailed into writing a glowing review. That's the thinking at least.
Actually Google issued that Executive Chef's crap as a press release, the free food is like 90% of their recruiting drive (knowing us programmers are fat bastards). Once they start offering free beer, maybe i'll be interested.
Because those business give you publicity? You usually just take the good with the bad. If you are Paramount and Entertainment Weekly gives one of your movies a bad rating, you can't just black list them. Because they probably help your cause more often then hurt it. CNET has wrote many good articles about Google. Blacklisting them for one article is immature.
Why don't you try checking out this site: http://next.yahoo.com/ . It's full of cool Yahoo innovations (like Google Labs). A lot of the apps on there don't get mentioned on Slashdot for some reason, but most are really cool.
Yes, Google's "dig through the help files to find the command and then type a command line-like argument" is much easier then Yahoo's complicated "just type what you want in the search bar" approach. I can see why you don't use Yahoo on principle, those fuckers just can't make things simple.
To explain this supposed hyprocracy (and feed the flamewar):
For example, many US Republicans are against abortion but in favour of the death penalty (no doubt they have their reasons)
I would say that a person receiving the death penalty had a choice in the matter, ie if you don't murder anyone, you don't get the dealth penalty (even if maybe 1% are really innocent). While a child is an innocent person 100% of the time.
Why not use the example that Democrats are against the death penalty but for abortion? (Which isnt true...MOST Americans favor the death penalty and MOST Americans favor abortion, we just like killin' stuff, regardless of politics)
Rockstar's next title, Bully, has already come under fire from anti-bullying groups. Activists have taken it up another notch
These wusses are soooo going to get beat up for their lunch money as soon as I get my hands on them.
Matters of unproven, unprovable faith belong in your chosen place of worship
I agree that creationism should not be taught in the classroom for this reason, but by the same token the Big Bang should not be taught in classrooms. The Big Bang theory is completely unproven, and can no easier be proved then creationism. Further more macro evolution (that we all came from the same goo) is completely unproven and unprovable. Frankly all the above theories sound as likely as leprechauns creating the universe IMO.
Kids these days don't appreciate sidescrollers on consolew. They won't be made because you gotta have "awesome 3d graphics" and "100% realism" and what not these days to supposedly sell a game.
Oh yeah thats where I was first introduced to video games too, my Shakeys was near Washington DC...I spent hours (with no quarters) just watching the demo screens and others play all those great old games, though I must have been there later then you because they had Centipead, Aarkanoid, and that game with the spys and the elevators by the time I was there....what ever happened to Shakeys anyways?
So true...all of the cool innovations in search have been coming from non google companies. Yes Google is doing all sorts of crazy shit with maps and photos and ajax...but the search is the same as ever, and Yahoo and MSN search is about equal in quality now. But where are the search innovations? Clusty has awesomely useful clustered search, Yahoo came up with that search that lets you adjust the search to find more research or more ecommerce...Yahoo demoed that social linking search engine... I mean, where is Google when it comes to the Search innovation? I hope they havn't forgotten that supposedly there goal was to be about search and only search.... It's frustrating that I still have to type a complex series of search commands into Google to get what I want.
Well that strategy worked for Google...they just did what Yahoo and Microsoft did....
I have...it sucks for PC games, at least in comparison to console games. The video card is the main thing that frustrates me about PC gaming though. I'm ALWAYS behind the curve :(.
There is no one more knowledgeable about the industry then Walmart employees. Just go to any Walmart video game counter and experience the vast wealth of knowledge they possess.
I think it is too, which is why I let all the kids buy their $60 and I scoop them up for $20 used a few months later. But hey, if someone will pay it, they can charge it.
The PC ends up costing alot more though? One video card can cost you more then that whole system. And the used game market is much better for console games then PC games.
Is better then FF7? Better then Syndicate? Better then Alone in the Dark? Common, this had to be one of the worst basketball games of all time.
And while there were only eight selectable teams and modes were limited to Exhibition and Playoffs
Whoot. Hours of fun.