Of course that is true for most Operating systems. Even Windows will run for months if you don't touch it. Err... well, now that they fixed that 47 day bug.
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He is refering to a bug in previous versions of MacOS that was persistant for a few years. Everytime you opened a window you would permanently lose 1k of memory to a memory leak, if I recall. I don't think it's been that way for a few years now, though.
Of course the fact that the original dual CPU g4's came installed with an OS that only used one CPU might have had something to do with. It certainly didn't help them in the public eye.
um, I was actually responding to another person who said He would like to own an X-Box for hacking purposes, but wouldn't want to put money in Microsofts pocket.
Maybe you should read the thread before OPENING YOUR BIG STUPID PIE HOLE.
I have seen this argument used by tons of administrators of boards open to the public. It is absolutely true that it is their property and they can do whatever they want. I don't agree with their choice of actions, however.
One of the irony's about the constitution of the United States is it gives us the freedom to setup private entities that violate the spirit of the constitution. When I run a public messageboard, I run it as if it were bound by the same constitutional provisions it would be even if it were a federally owned board. I don't censor people and I don't impose my will apon others while administrating the board. I consider that a matter of personal pride as well as a tribute to the things that made this country great in the beginning; things that it seems most Americans aren't even aware of.
Yahoo isn't doing anyone a service here, they further the cause of the censors here.
Comparing caffeine to alchohol in the context of driving impairment is just assininely stupid.
I mean, seriously fucking moronic here.
Let me put it this way, I have penguin mints here and I've been drinking soda all night. I can -still- hit 70% with my railgun in Quake, I wouldn't put any money on being able to hit 20% after I've had 2 beers though.
Had he not been drunk, it wouldn't have happened. Had he not been driving an SUV, there wouldn't have been nearly so much damage. Had you any brains, you wouldn't be laying the blame on Jason for not getting out of the way when DRUNK DRIVER IN AN SUV RAMMED INTO HIM WHILE SITTING AT A RED LIGHT.
Christ. Did you check your brain at the fucking door or what?
Make your car larger to improve its reactions in a collision because there are cars that are larger. Hrm.. where does this line of reasoning lead to? Eventually everybody is driving a tank that gets 2mpg and emits as much crap into the air as a small town coal power plant.
How is this, 2 1000lb cars colliding is a much safer collision than 2 8000lb cars. Smaller cars would be safer if 1/3 of americans didn't drive monster trucks as status symbols. This is vanity and it's ruining the environment while killing people.
That wont work in the console world. Consoles are sold as loss leader products (meaning, they actually sell them at a loss) and the money is made back with software licensing fees to developers. Companies cannot let their consoles become an open system because then they have no source of income. The only way you can develop on a console is if you pay the fees.
Don't think of buying an X-Box as giving MS money, think of it as taking money away. Console systems are traditionally loss leader products. In that the devices themselves are sold at a loss with the expectation that the money will be made back with software licensing fees. If you buy the console and never purchase any software you have actually cheated them.
You friend are you completely wrong. Firstly, the gamecube is nowhere near vaporware, they have working prototypes. Second, the 'underwealming console' you speak of from sega is currently just as good as the PS2 you are comparing it with in so far as software is concerned and came out over a year earlier. Consider that your average DC game is pushing about 5 million polys a second while the average ps2 game is pushing about, you guessed it, 5 million polys a second. You can forget about those theoretical numbers Sony throws around. They are claiming 70million polys per second... of course thats flat untextured polys. blah.
Sega failed because of 2 things, timing and marketing, the hardware had nothing to do with it, and the software is currently the best available on any platform.
Of course people say "wait for the 2nd generation games", but I can compare 1st gen DC games with the PS2 stuff and it still is far higher quality.
As for the PS2 sales, if they ever get any good games on that thing it might take of.. maybe... if people are still willing to pay $350 for it when Sony figures out how to mass produce them worth a damn. Even once they get that figured out, people aren't likely to want to spend that kind of cash in a recession/post recession.
The X-box and the Gamecube have the same problems ahead of them; software and price. Whoever gets the killer app and the golden $150 price tag is probably going to win.
What did you think it was going to be aliens? Of course someone did it as art or a promotion, what difference does it make though? It's cool in and over itself.
"One word: Celeron Its probably the worst processor on the market because it lacks cache, but it sells because you can get a 500Mhz processor for the equivalent in price of a 200Mhz PII (even though the PII will perform better)."
This is so much bullshit. You must not pay any attention to the hardware scene at -all- if you believe that.
Here are some good places for you to go and get informed: www.sharkyextreme.com www.hardocp.com www.anandtech.com www.tomshardware.com www.firingsquad.com
Note that celerons have cache these days, only the first few models didn't and those didn't sell well. Every celeron since the slot1 300mhz version has had 128k of cache or more, it makes all of the difference.
Intel has been telling everyone that the celerons are low performance chips so that they don't eat into their p3 market share, but it isn't true. Dollar for Dollar the celerons outperform the p3's by miles. Of course it doesn't hold a candle to the price/performance found in a T-Bird or Duron, but that's another thread...
It's ironic that you are talking about the consumer being stupid and believing advertisers and you fell for just that exact thing yourself.
heh.. yes, very ironic.
As everyone else said, it depends on what you want to do with it. If it is 3d you are after www.anandtech.com has done some benchmarks, and and nvidia geforce2 seems to be the clear winner:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1331
Of course nvidia isn't opensourcing their drivers, so you may want to go with another company for that reason alone.
The only things I do anymore is video games, books, and movies. I'm seriously not into TV at all, if it wasn't for the porn channels I would turn off the satellite service.
Really, I have wanted to see just this sort of thing happen for a long time. Prior to even BeOS I had often thought to myself "What if all of these opensource hackers got together and decided to make a better desktop OS from the ground up, instead of tacking it onto a server OS?"
I really want to see the Linux Desktops take off, and become the usability equivalents of MSWindows, but I just have so many doubts. You can't metion X in a group of hackers without hearing at least a groan or two in response, so maybe it's not such a good choice.
I like the Interface of Windows, I just hate nearly everything else about it. If we could use a clean and easy interface, but include all of the stability and customization of Linux, that would rock. Of course BeOS already has the GNU utilities so, man.. match made in heaven.
Let me emphasize, that I would -realy- like to see this happen.
" I should be able to own a particular wheel design that improves traction on slippery surfaces. "
I think that herein lies the real source of this constant bickering we endure over IP. We are divided into two camps. On one side we have the people who think that the above statement is true, and on the other side are the people who think the above statement is false.
This is the real argument and it is the one we should focus on if we want to resolve anything. Personally I think it's just a matter of different principles and beliefs, I doubt that any amount of arguing is going to change either side.
Really, when I step back and look at it objectively, I don't know who is right; It's a tough issue.
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That was a troll? Hardly. It was funny. No I'm not being biased against Apple, it would have been funny no matter what system was being ragged on.
Time to go refresh in metamod until I can right this injustice.
"What makes the Mac unstable has nothing to do with the OS and eveything to do with the applications it runs. "
That's absolutely true, and it's what most *nix guys mean when they say those OS's aren't stable.
Excuses don't help, an OS has no reason to go down short of hardware failure. Ever.
Of course that is true for most Operating systems. Even Windows will run for months if you don't touch it. Err... well, now that they fixed that 47 day bug.
He is refering to a bug in previous versions of MacOS that was persistant for a few years. Everytime you opened a window you would permanently lose 1k of memory to a memory leak, if I recall. I don't think it's been that way for a few years now, though.
Of course the fact that the original dual CPU g4's came installed with an OS that only used one CPU might have had something to do with. It certainly didn't help them in the public eye.
We no longer have the pledge of allegiance in schools. This stopped in the late 80's I believe.
um, I was actually responding to another person who said He would like to own an X-Box for hacking purposes, but wouldn't want to put money in Microsofts pocket.
Maybe you should read the thread before OPENING YOUR BIG STUPID PIE HOLE.
I have seen this argument used by tons of administrators of boards open to the public. It is absolutely true that it is their property and they can do whatever they want. I don't agree with their choice of actions, however.
One of the irony's about the constitution of the United States is it gives us the freedom to setup private entities that violate the spirit of the constitution. When I run a public messageboard, I run it as if it were bound by the same constitutional provisions it would be even if it were a federally owned board. I don't censor people and I don't impose my will apon others while administrating the board. I consider that a matter of personal pride as well as a tribute to the things that made this country great in the beginning; things that it seems most Americans aren't even aware of.
Yahoo isn't doing anyone a service here, they further the cause of the censors here.
It's bad.
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Comparing caffeine to alchohol in the context of driving impairment is just assininely stupid.
I mean, seriously fucking moronic here.
Let me put it this way, I have penguin mints here and I've been drinking soda all night. I can -still- hit 70% with my railgun in Quake, I wouldn't put any money on being able to hit 20% after I've had 2 beers though.
Had he not been drunk, it wouldn't have happened. Had he not been driving an SUV, there wouldn't have been nearly so much damage. Had you any brains, you wouldn't be laying the blame on Jason for not getting out of the way when DRUNK DRIVER IN AN SUV RAMMED INTO HIM WHILE SITTING AT A RED LIGHT.
Christ. Did you check your brain at the fucking door or what?
Heh. Congratulations, thats exactly what I thought you PEOPLE were doing. It's sad and sorry from here.
Make your car larger to improve its reactions in a collision because there are cars that are larger. Hrm.. where does this line of reasoning lead to? Eventually everybody is driving a tank that gets 2mpg and emits as much crap into the air as a small town coal power plant.
How is this, 2 1000lb cars colliding is a much safer collision than 2 8000lb cars. Smaller cars would be safer if 1/3 of americans didn't drive monster trucks as status symbols. This is vanity and it's ruining the environment while killing people.
Ohh.. good one. Mod this one up.
That wont work in the console world. Consoles are sold as loss leader products (meaning, they actually sell them at a loss) and the money is made back with software licensing fees to developers. Companies cannot let their consoles become an open system because then they have no source of income. The only way you can develop on a console is if you pay the fees.
Don't think of buying an X-Box as giving MS money, think of it as taking money away. Console systems are traditionally loss leader products. In that the devices themselves are sold at a loss with the expectation that the money will be made back with software licensing fees. If you buy the console and never purchase any software you have actually cheated them.
You friend are you completely wrong. Firstly, the gamecube is nowhere near vaporware, they have working prototypes. Second, the 'underwealming console' you speak of from sega is currently just as good as the PS2 you are comparing it with in so far as software is concerned and came out over a year earlier. Consider that your average DC game is pushing about 5 million polys a second while the average ps2 game is pushing about, you guessed it, 5 million polys a second. You can forget about those theoretical numbers Sony throws around. They are claiming 70million polys per second... of course thats flat untextured polys. blah. Sega failed because of 2 things, timing and marketing, the hardware had nothing to do with it, and the software is currently the best available on any platform. Of course people say "wait for the 2nd generation games", but I can compare 1st gen DC games with the PS2 stuff and it still is far higher quality. As for the PS2 sales, if they ever get any good games on that thing it might take of.. maybe... if people are still willing to pay $350 for it when Sony figures out how to mass produce them worth a damn. Even once they get that figured out, people aren't likely to want to spend that kind of cash in a recession/post recession. The X-box and the Gamecube have the same problems ahead of them; software and price. Whoever gets the killer app and the golden $150 price tag is probably going to win.
Oh man am I sick of priceless parodies.
What did you think it was going to be aliens? Of course someone did it as art or a promotion, what difference does it make though? It's cool in and over itself.
"One word: Celeron Its probably the worst processor on the market because it lacks cache, but it sells because you can get a 500Mhz processor for the equivalent in price of a 200Mhz PII (even though the PII will perform better)."
This is so much bullshit. You must not pay any attention to the hardware scene at -all- if you believe that.
Here are some good places for you to go and get informed: www.sharkyextreme.com www.hardocp.com www.anandtech.com www.tomshardware.com www.firingsquad.com
Note that celerons have cache these days, only the first few models didn't and those didn't sell well. Every celeron since the slot1 300mhz version has had 128k of cache or more, it makes all of the difference.
Intel has been telling everyone that the celerons are low performance chips so that they don't eat into their p3 market share, but it isn't true. Dollar for Dollar the celerons outperform the p3's by miles. Of course it doesn't hold a candle to the price/performance found in a T-Bird or Duron, but that's another thread...
It's ironic that you are talking about the consumer being stupid and believing advertisers and you fell for just that exact thing yourself.
heh.. yes, very ironic.
As everyone else said, it depends on what you want to do with it. If it is 3d you are after www.anandtech.com has done some benchmarks, and and nvidia geforce2 seems to be the clear winner:
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1331
Of course nvidia isn't opensourcing their drivers, so you may want to go with another company for that reason alone.
The only things I do anymore is video games, books, and movies. I'm seriously not into TV at all, if it wasn't for the porn channels I would turn off the satellite service.
I'd install and use BeOS.
Really, I have wanted to see just this sort of thing happen for a long time. Prior to even BeOS I had often thought to myself "What if all of these opensource hackers got together and decided to make a better desktop OS from the ground up, instead of tacking it onto a server OS?"
I really want to see the Linux Desktops take off, and become the usability equivalents of MSWindows, but I just have so many doubts. You can't metion X in a group of hackers without hearing at least a groan or two in response, so maybe it's not such a good choice.
I like the Interface of Windows, I just hate nearly everything else about it. If we could use a clean and easy interface, but include all of the stability and customization of Linux, that would rock. Of course BeOS already has the GNU utilities so, man.. match made in heaven.
Let me emphasize, that I would -realy- like to see this happen.
And the benefits of that type of excercise are what? You look good for the ladies. heh
Don't smoke, don't drink, eat okay and get a little excercise is all you have to do for longevity. Everything else is just dumb luck.
"Self improvement is masturbation." -- Tyler Durden
kernel panic? Not likely
I've seen 1 in 3 years, bad memory stick.
" I should be able to own a particular wheel design that improves traction on slippery surfaces. "
I think that herein lies the real source of this constant bickering we endure over IP. We are divided into two camps. On one side we have the people who think that the above statement is true, and on the other side are the people who think the above statement is false.
This is the real argument and it is the one we should focus on if we want to resolve anything. Personally I think it's just a matter of different principles and beliefs, I doubt that any amount of arguing is going to change either side.
Really, when I step back and look at it objectively, I don't know who is right; It's a tough issue.