I'm sorry but you are wrong. It is not known exactly what the cut is but the labels take at least 75c out of every 99c download. Apple pay for the credit card charge (5c?), the bandwith, the server farm and the digitising costs. It is widely thought that they make 3 or 4c on the dollar - and this much only because it is so successful. The labels make about 67c on the dollar, the artists about 8c (if they are successful). The labels don't have to publicise, distribute, package or advertise. They make more profit out of a download than a cd. You are the first person I have ever seen claim 35% of a download fee - but even if that were true, after costs, their cut would still be way less than the labels and probably on a par with the artist. But it isn't true.
Truth is the labels are shit scared of Apple. They thought that iTunes would only be for mac - it was a little experiment. It is now such a success that they half want to kill it if only they didn't need it so much. All the arguments you are seeing between Apple and the labels is a power struggle. What if the artists go to Apple direct? Then they can have 70c+ in the dollar. That is what the battle is really about.
It's late enough in the thread that perhaps no-one will ever see this, but nonetheless here goes. As someone at risk from Huntington's Disease this is the only way to approach curing this. I am not neutral. It looks as though as a 37 year old man I will escape it. It is not guaranteed. What is is that I watched my mother die and am watching one of my sisters die. My other sister is safe. Of my 12 cousins 7 are dying of this. I just hope that whatever side of the argument you come down on you remember that for many of my family it is the only hope. I hope that you will at least think of what it would mean to you to be in this position. That, however, is all I ask. I only hope that you think before you speak.
FTA:
"I put apple a few years behind Microsoft in understanding how to manage security for the users. I put Microsoft a number of years behind the Unix community because the first systems that got hurt -- ten or fifteen years ago -- were Unix systems. Microsoft had to fix the security because it had such a bad reputation and to its credit, the company has really turned it around, " said Borrie.
Is it just me or does this not really make sense given Mac OS X's unix underpinnings?
At the moment we have this choice, but for how long? At least with Fairplay it can be legally bypassed. The other vendors have to go along with M$ on this as they have to work well with M$ "security practices"/ trusted computing or whatever other Windows DRM schemes rear their ugly head. Apple can differentiate itself in different ways so does not need to. I'm not saying they won't, but I can't see what's in it for them at the moment.
I agree that it is unwise to deify Apple, but where is the evidence that they are trying to screw us "as much if not more" than Intel et al? The example you give, iTunes, has the least restrictive, easiest to bypass DRM scheme out there. It's been said a thousand times or more on Slashdot, but the RCIAA will not allow songs to be sold without some form of DRM. We should encourage weak schemes like Fairplay over stuff like Janus because we are not going to be given the choice of DRM or no DRM, only between different DRMs
This issue has been flying around the mac sites for a day or so. It seemed at first that 10.3.8 had broken Safari - but it soon turns out that Camino, Firefox, IE and Shiira are also affected. A few people are saying that their Firefox isn't broken - but mine is. YMMV. It is not a Mac thing though. It's that same on Windoows. You can disable Javascript or forward date your cookies - but if anyone has an easy wayto deal with this I'm interested.
You don't actually give a way that they could catch the person without going for the reporter. If it were coding leaks then sure, you can insert specific code - but it was a hardware leak. What part of 'small $500 headless mac and cheap displayless flash player' can you distort in order to catch your leak. You can offer up $700 four foot wide 128mb flash player - but it ain't going to work. There is no other way to identify this leak. Am I glad? No. But they either do it this way or not at all.
There is no default multiple deskto scheme in OSX - although fast user switching allows a facsimile of it by using multiple user accounts. There are third party solutions, of course, but I don't know them, For me Expose rocks.
>Saying that you only require your MP3 player to play music is like requiring your drinks to be wet or your legs to reach the ground.
So good I may borrow it one day!
I had such problems wih Windows that I recently switched my main machine, but I still have a Windows box. I can believe that this is a good product, but I have difficulty with Microsoft branching out into this area. Surely it should not be a separate product. If there is a fault in Windows do they fix Windows or do they supply a fix through their subscription anti-spyware product? Is there not a conflict of interest here? They ought to be able to make the best spyware cleaner on the market, after all it is their OS - but shouldn't they be able to eliminate this within the OS. I use Suse and Mac OS X as well and I can't imagine this situation arising with either of these.
It will work fine. The only difference is that it will show up on the desk top as a generic disk marked 'ipod' rather than as an ipod shaped icon. Oh and you won't be able to boot off it - though I don't know why you'd want to. You can still sync with it and use it as a disk.
It is almost certain that we change our environmet - but we have no idea how. We do one thing here, one thing there. Overall not much changes, but locally we strip the trees off a mountain and fuck up the climate. Armed with this singlar evidence we try and reduce 3% of 0.037% by 10% and then blame an earthquake tsunami on the fact that we didn't sign off on the 10%. We cannot model this shit, which wouldn't be a problem, except we don't have the humility to admit it. That's OK though. We can by a Prius. How much energy does it cost to make one of those. Your Dodge Charger probably does less damage.
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Truth is the labels are shit scared of Apple. They thought that iTunes would only be for mac - it was a little experiment. It is now such a success that they half want to kill it if only they didn't need it so much. All the arguments you are seeing between Apple and the labels is a power struggle. What if the artists go to Apple direct? Then they can have 70c+ in the dollar. That is what the battle is really about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_section
It's late enough in the thread that perhaps no-one will ever see this, but nonetheless here goes. As someone at risk from Huntington's Disease this is the only way to approach curing this. I am not neutral. It looks as though as a 37 year old man I will escape it. It is not guaranteed. What is is that I watched my mother die and am watching one of my sisters die. My other sister is safe. Of my 12 cousins 7 are dying of this. I just hope that whatever side of the argument you come down on you remember that for many of my family it is the only hope. I hope that you will at least think of what it would mean to you to be in this position. That, however, is all I ask. I only hope that you think before you speak.
FTA: "I put apple a few years behind Microsoft in understanding how to manage security for the users. I put Microsoft a number of years behind the Unix community because the first systems that got hurt -- ten or fifteen years ago -- were Unix systems. Microsoft had to fix the security because it had such a bad reputation and to its credit, the company has really turned it around, " said Borrie.
Is it just me or does this not really make sense given Mac OS X's unix underpinnings?
> The only choice is DRM or no DRM.
At the moment we have this choice, but for how long? At least with Fairplay it can be legally bypassed. The other vendors have to go along with M$ on this as they have to work well with M$ "security practices"/ trusted computing or whatever other Windows DRM schemes rear their ugly head. Apple can differentiate itself in different ways so does not need to. I'm not saying they won't, but I can't see what's in it for them at the moment.
I agree that it is unwise to deify Apple, but where is the evidence that they are trying to screw us "as much if not more" than Intel et al? The example you give, iTunes, has the least restrictive, easiest to bypass DRM scheme out there. It's been said a thousand times or more on Slashdot, but the RCIAA will not allow songs to be sold without some form of DRM. We should encourage weak schemes like Fairplay over stuff like Janus because we are not going to be given the choice of DRM or no DRM, only between different DRMs
The turbo has a vibrating handle - it isn't inert at all.
It has a powerful vibrating handle
Take the blade off and you have the world's finest lady pleasuring device. Trust me, it works.
"So yes, I WILL demonize people accused of child abuse."
I hope that you will at least wait until they are convicted.
I'm tempted to do this as well - I just wish there were a better way,
Try this: http://www.macdailynews.com/
This issue has been flying around the mac sites for a day or so. It seemed at first that 10.3.8 had broken Safari - but it soon turns out that Camino, Firefox, IE and Shiira are also affected. A few people are saying that their Firefox isn't broken - but mine is. YMMV. It is not a Mac thing though. It's that same on Windoows. You can disable Javascript or forward date your cookies - but if anyone has an easy wayto deal with this I'm interested.
You don't actually give a way that they could catch the person without going for the reporter. If it were coding leaks then sure, you can insert specific code - but it was a hardware leak. What part of 'small $500 headless mac and cheap displayless flash player' can you distort in order to catch your leak. You can offer up $700 four foot wide 128mb flash player - but it ain't going to work. There is no other way to identify this leak. Am I glad? No. But they either do it this way or not at all.
Yeah - but H2O is a much better greenhouse gas than CO2. How does this help?
Loads quicker for me too. Weird.
There is no default multiple deskto scheme in OSX - although fast user switching allows a facsimile of it by using multiple user accounts. There are third party solutions, of course, but I don't know them, For me Expose rocks.
Not to Troll but.... troll.
>Saying that you only require your MP3 player to play music is like requiring your drinks to be wet or your legs to reach the ground. So good I may borrow it one day!
I had such problems wih Windows that I recently switched my main machine, but I still have a Windows box. I can believe that this is a good product, but I have difficulty with Microsoft branching out into this area. Surely it should not be a separate product. If there is a fault in Windows do they fix Windows or do they supply a fix through their subscription anti-spyware product? Is there not a conflict of interest here? They ought to be able to make the best spyware cleaner on the market, after all it is their OS - but shouldn't they be able to eliminate this within the OS. I use Suse and Mac OS X as well and I can't imagine this situation arising with either of these.
This is not true. I've got a 40g windows formatted iPod synched to my powerbook just fine.
It will work fine. The only difference is that it will show up on the desk top as a generic disk marked 'ipod' rather than as an ipod shaped icon. Oh and you won't be able to boot off it - though I don't know why you'd want to. You can still sync with it and use it as a disk.
It is almost certain that we change our environmet - but we have no idea how. We do one thing here, one thing there. Overall not much changes, but locally we strip the trees off a mountain and fuck up the climate. Armed with this singlar evidence we try and reduce 3% of 0.037% by 10% and then blame an earthquake tsunami on the fact that we didn't sign off on the 10%. We cannot model this shit, which wouldn't be a problem, except we don't have the humility to admit it. That's OK though. We can by a Prius. How much energy does it cost to make one of those. Your Dodge Charger probably does less damage.
Surfing on a fridge would be cool. Sorry...
Real's music store doesn't even support Mac. It's really hard to blame Apple for this one.