Have you actually looked into the science of how waterboarding works? The ability to trick the hind brain into thinking its drowning is very interesting 'technically'.
I assume you mean suspected criminals have less rights since they need a warrant to bust down your door or exigenct circumstances. Neither one of those is a conviction. The problem is that they can get a warrant for damn near anything. =\
I too enjoy how people that are around parents or have the same 'all my friends have children' and believe that makes them experts.
Have you sat up with your child in a coma while your frantically trying to figure out what they took but can't since you have no access? Sure you can scramble around the house but was it your xanax or the draino? Did they tell their friends, leave a note on the phone or have a fight with a friend? I guess it's fine to sit by and watch them die in the name of trusting them (well up until that point but a bell can't be un-rung). Hell, a lot of parents don't know who their children are friends with these days, let alone what they are actually doing. Trust is fantastic and parents & children should be able to trust each other but some of the outcomes are disastrous and finding out after the first felony/kidnapping/rape/<whatever> is a bad time to learn the trust isn't there (yup, I think in worst case scenarios, probably why I am in infosec). Also to the example you replied to, a daughter who is normally not secretive and suddenly becomes so, is cause for concern. You only get that type of vibe after living with someone for years and years, not just from visiting friends with kids. Also, how about acknowledging the fact that the constant connection to the Internet of this generation is vastly different than you and your 1200 baud modem? Did your parents actually understand the risks of the bbs's or what you could do with a computer?
My son had and still does have my code for mine and my wife's phones because shit happens and I would rather he have it and not need it then the alternative, just like I have his. To me it's kinda like owning a gun, I don't want to use it but I'd rather have it than not, especially when it's needed.
Without having the details, it's hard to gauge the true security of the phones. Perhaps the Israeli company used a scanning electron microscope and attacked the actual crypto chip, there are some risks associated with that approach but it's far from impossible and probably not something you would want to experiment with on a phone you've yelled about being 'OMG, national security' about. That makes the going to someone with experience a good thing. I have a hunch the Feds had this planned before any of this began. They hoped apple would cave but always had a backup plan, they just wanted the precedent before resorting to plan B. When it got to the point that the case was going to be heard and might go against them, they dropped it and went to the backup. At least that's what I would have done in their place.
Their are still a number of states that require id before you can vote. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States to see the list of requirements to vote state by state.
Reading the article, I didn't see anything about performance art, just 'schoolgirls' dancing, so I am not sure if that qualifies as performance art (granted, eye of the beholder and all that). There are tons of dance groups that are made up of men & woman whom are exceptional at their art, any one of those would have been better and tech companies have hired actual dancers before (Adobe comes to mind off the top of my head). So it's easily something MS could have done.
I agree completely, though at my last gig there was enough booze flowing to make hr think they were strippers. It made for good times and resulted in no incidents as a result of this behavior. In fact, hr was the filthiest group (language, improper conversations, streaking in the hallways (though it was once and both hilarious and disturbing), the only group that was close was infosec (my group) and we simply didn't give a fuck. When your tracking down sketchy shot you sometimes get redirected to the awful on the net. Oh and no, it wasn't a startup (in business for 14 years) but tended to be startup like.
But if your going to do the 'booth babe' thing you might as well go all out and make it an event that caters to all the common sexual needs of people (standard straight and lgbt). Throw in the 55 gallon tub'o'lube and make it a real party!
As mentioned above this comment, there are a number of disabled patients that have a hard time with even velcro. Hopefully they will be able to vet the tech en mass and that will drive costs down and increase the amount of shoes that can have this option w/out the shiny lights.
Only because the episodes showing the slow erosion of individual rights couldn't get past the test viewers. All of them said that part was too boring and didn't have enough shooting/explosions.;-}
Sadly, the phrase 'functional' doesn't come to mind at all when these two agencies (well, pretty much all federal agencies that are involved in enforcement/intelligence) are brought up in the context of cooperation.
While I am still reading, it would seem to be the 'All Writs Act', at least in the governments interpretation, gives them the authority. Also, the case is United States v. Jun Feng, No. 14-CR-387 and it explicitly states a an "Apple iPhone 5s" was seized while executing a search warrant of Jun's residence. I am still googling for the warrant issued under that particular case.
Granted, IAMNAL so perhaps I am getting mired down in all the jargon. Jargon examples:
"Third, orders issued under the All Writs Act must be “necessary or appropriate in aid of their respective jurisdictions.” 28 U.S.C. § 1651(a) (emphasis added)."
"No statute addresses data extraction from a passcode-locked cell phone. The Supreme Court also has made clear that “[t]he All Writs Act is a residual source of authority to issue writs that are not otherwise covered by statute,” such that courts may not rely on the All Writs Act “[w]here a statute specifically addresses the particular issue at hand.” Pennsylvania Bureau of Correction v. United States Marshals Serv., 474 U.S.34, 43 (1985). In this case, no statute addresses the procedures for requiring Apple to extract data from a passcode-locked iPhone, so Pennsylvania Bureau of Correction provides no basis for denying the government’s application for an All Writs Act order in this case."
"Thus, CALEA concerns a separate subject entirely and does not limit this Court’s authority under the All Writs Act to require Apple to assist the government in executing a search warrant."
"Because courts do not lose an authority to issue orders under the All Writs Act merely because Congress does not subsequently enact legislation endorsing or expanding that authority, this Court retains authority to issue an All Writs Act order consistent with New York Telephone Co."
"Court authority to issue All Writs Act orders in support of warrants has been clearly established since the Supreme Court decided New York Telephone Co. in 1977"
Not to mention you are basically stealing food from the mouths of the providers children by not allowing them to monitize everything about you. In fact, you should preemptivly give them a json file with all your particulars and those of your families. Hell, include the pets too!
Specifically within wmic and the statement: 'you don't want to just start throwing them around the internet" there are a few specific scenarios and these are just some of the issues.
* accepting wmic from the internet (be it through an open port/MiTM/code injection/whatever) can allow the installing/removing/disabling of the windows firewall, patches, services, etc. - That qualifies as both bad and harmful.
* passing the output of wmic commands on the internet can allow specific targeting of your machine based on the data given and by specific I mean, knowing exactly which payload will bypass that version of EMET or ASLR. Granted, this is a bit 'general' but if I know the specific lock you are using and its serial number, I can start working out which of the possible available keys are required.
That's pretty much what it reminds me of. Reading these always brings to mind how advanced the Arabic people were until the strict adherence to religious doctrine basically removed many of them from the sort of social/political evolution that comes from hearing/debating ideas that aren't your own. It also smacks of the current trend of downplaying scientific discoveries as mere 'theories' that are 'equally as valid' as Christian doctrine.
There are always exceptions, consider Christopher Tolkiens later publishing of his fathers works and even making additions to stories that were unfinished. He was able to do that because he inherited the rights and all the notes his father had lying around.
By your logic, anyone can bastardize someone's work as long as they are dead first and screw whatever the author had planned before he died. Much like Stieg Larson, he had 3 sequels to his 'Girl with the Dragon Tatoo' series already drafted out and then he died, so anyone should be able to take his characters and do whatever since he's dead, to hell with his plans for character development or stories!
I can understand not wanting useless people to feed off the success of their parents but as a parent, I want to provide for my child (useless or otherwise).
Make all telcos/ISPs route out to an international networks where it gets 're-encapsulated' to appear that it's coming from outside the US. Seems like an easy way to force compliance, especially if you gently remind companies about the foreign shores they are based in (on paper at least). In fact, that being the case, I wonder if the 'technical' argument can be made that they are foreign entities, so the traffic that generates within the US borders By customers of that company could be considered a 'foreign' network and therefore not subject to any constitutional protections?
There is also the possibility that they are monitoring particular terrorist links but don't want to divulge that. If the terrorists are communicating over text-messages and they have made any effort to compartmentalize information (even a tiny bit), any proactive actions taken by an intelligence agency would lead the terrorists to specific people that are being monitored. That's far more telling from an adversaries perspective then a generic 'all text messages are analyzed'. I am not part of any nations version of a 3-letter agency but I wonder how much damage is done by not wanting to disclose to the enemy specifics of exactly what/who/where/when things are monitored. Much like during WWII, actions needed to be weighed against the value of keeping that line of intelligence open which leads to which atrocities do you permit 'for the greater good' and which do you block. =|
They were specifically looking for people entering the secured areas via the exit to baggage (essentially looking for people flowing the wrong way on what should be a one-way passage).
So in that 'matching of population to resources' logic...would you be pro forced abortion or casual abandonment, perhaps drop the newborn across the nearest border?
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Have you actually looked into the science of how waterboarding works? The ability to trick the hind brain into thinking its drowning is very interesting 'technically'.
True it's a matter of legality and the laws in Oklahoma are a bit vague:
http://indepthreporting.blogspot.com/2007/08/in-class-demo.html?m=1
Not sure if loitering to secretly record something by drone counts as loitering per the law.
I assume you mean suspected criminals have less rights since they need a warrant to bust down your door or exigenct circumstances. Neither one of those is a conviction. The problem is that they can get a warrant for damn near anything. =\
Actually it's from an iphone 5s, I'm just an asshole. ;-}
I too enjoy how people that are around parents or have the same 'all my friends have children' and believe that makes them experts.
Have you sat up with your child in a coma while your frantically trying to figure out what they took but can't since you have no access? Sure you can scramble around the house but was it your xanax or the draino? Did they tell their friends, leave a note on the phone or have a fight with a friend? I guess it's fine to sit by and watch them die in the name of trusting them (well up until that point but a bell can't be un-rung). Hell, a lot of parents don't know who their children are friends with these days, let alone what they are actually doing. Trust is fantastic and parents & children should be able to trust each other but some of the outcomes are disastrous and finding out after the first felony/kidnapping/rape/<whatever> is a bad time to learn the trust isn't there (yup, I think in worst case scenarios, probably why I am in infosec). Also to the example you replied to, a daughter who is normally not secretive and suddenly becomes so, is cause for concern. You only get that type of vibe after living with someone for years and years, not just from visiting friends with kids.
Also, how about acknowledging the fact that the constant connection to the Internet of this generation is vastly different than you and your 1200 baud modem? Did your parents actually understand the risks of the bbs's or what you could do with a computer?
My son had and still does have my code for mine and my wife's phones because shit happens and I would rather he have it and not need it then the alternative, just like I have his. To me it's kinda like owning a gun, I don't want to use it but I'd rather have it than not, especially when it's needed.
Without having the details, it's hard to gauge the true security of the phones. Perhaps the Israeli company used a scanning electron microscope and attacked the actual crypto chip, there are some risks associated with that approach but it's far from impossible and probably not something you would want to experiment with on a phone you've yelled about being 'OMG, national security' about. That makes the going to someone with experience a good thing. I have a hunch the Feds had this planned before any of this began. They hoped apple would cave but always had a backup plan, they just wanted the precedent before resorting to plan B. When it got to the point that the case was going to be heard and might go against them, they dropped it and went to the backup. At least that's what I would have done in their place.
Their are still a number of states that require id before you can vote. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States to see the list of requirements to vote state by state.
Of course if they are running a blackface show, they probably want to keep all their klan buddies as customers.
Reading the article, I didn't see anything about performance art, just 'schoolgirls' dancing, so I am not sure if that qualifies as performance art (granted, eye of the beholder and all that). There are tons of dance groups that are made up of men & woman whom are exceptional at their art, any one of those would have been better and tech companies have hired actual dancers before (Adobe comes to mind off the top of my head). So it's easily something MS could have done.
I agree completely, though at my last gig there was enough booze flowing to make hr think they were strippers. It made for good times and resulted in no incidents as a result of this behavior. In fact, hr was the filthiest group (language, improper conversations, streaking in the hallways (though it was once and both hilarious and disturbing), the only group that was close was infosec (my group) and we simply didn't give a fuck. When your tracking down sketchy shot you sometimes get redirected to the awful on the net. Oh and no, it wasn't a startup (in business for 14 years) but tended to be startup like.
But if your going to do the 'booth babe' thing you might as well go all out and make it an event that caters to all the common sexual needs of people (standard straight and lgbt). Throw in the 55 gallon tub'o'lube and make it a real party!
As mentioned above this comment, there are a number of disabled patients that have a hard time with even velcro. Hopefully they will be able to vet the tech en mass and that will drive costs down and increase the amount of shoes that can have this option w/out the shiny lights.
Only because the episodes showing the slow erosion of individual rights couldn't get past the test viewers. All of them said that part was too boring and didn't have enough shooting/explosions. ;-}
Sadly, the phrase 'functional' doesn't come to mind at all when these two agencies (well, pretty much all federal agencies that are involved in enforcement/intelligence) are brought up in the context of cooperation.
While I am still reading, it would seem to be the 'All Writs Act', at least in the governments interpretation, gives them the authority. Also, the case is United States v. Jun Feng, No. 14-CR-387 and it explicitly states a an "Apple iPhone 5s" was seized while executing a search warrant of Jun's residence. I am still googling for the warrant issued under that particular case.
Granted, IAMNAL so perhaps I am getting mired down in all the jargon. Jargon examples:
"Third, orders issued under the All Writs Act must be “necessary or appropriate in aid of their respective jurisdictions.” 28 U.S.C. § 1651(a) (emphasis added)."
"No statute addresses data extraction from a passcode-locked cell phone. The Supreme Court also has made clear that “[t]he All Writs Act is a residual source of authority to issue writs that are not otherwise covered by statute,” such that courts may not rely on the All Writs Act “[w]here a statute specifically addresses the particular issue at hand.” Pennsylvania Bureau of Correction v. United States Marshals Serv., 474 U.S.34, 43 (1985). In this case, no statute addresses the procedures for requiring Apple to extract data from a passcode-locked iPhone, so Pennsylvania Bureau of Correction provides no basis for denying the government’s application for an All Writs Act order in this case."
"Thus, CALEA concerns a separate subject entirely and does not limit this Court’s authority under the All Writs Act to require Apple to assist the government
in executing a search warrant."
"Because courts do not lose an authority to issue orders under the All Writs Act merely because Congress does not subsequently enact legislation endorsing or expanding that authority, this Court retains authority to issue an All Writs Act order consistent with New York Telephone Co."
"Court authority to issue All Writs Act orders in support of warrants has been clearly established since the Supreme Court decided New York Telephone Co. in 1977"
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Apple-All-Writs-Government-Reply.pdf
Not to mention you are basically stealing food from the mouths of the providers children by not allowing them to monitize everything about you. In fact, you should preemptivly give them a json file with all your particulars and those of your families. Hell, include the pets too!
Specifically within wmic and the statement: 'you don't want to just start throwing them around the internet" there are a few specific scenarios and these are just some of the issues.
* accepting wmic from the internet (be it through an open port/MiTM/code injection/whatever) can allow the installing/removing/disabling of the windows firewall, patches, services, etc. - That qualifies as both bad and harmful.
* passing the output of wmic commands on the internet can allow specific targeting of your machine based on the data given and by specific I mean, knowing exactly which payload will bypass that version of EMET or ASLR. Granted, this is a bit 'general' but if I know the specific lock you are using and its serial number, I can start working out which of the possible available keys are required.
Just some things off the top of my head.
That's pretty much what it reminds me of. Reading these always brings to mind how advanced the Arabic people were until the strict adherence to religious doctrine basically removed many of them from the sort of social/political evolution that comes from hearing/debating ideas that aren't your own. It also smacks of the current trend of downplaying scientific discoveries as mere 'theories' that are 'equally as valid' as Christian doctrine.
I didn't make the tentacle porn until your post, I love it!
There are always exceptions, consider Christopher Tolkiens later publishing of his fathers works and even making additions to stories that were unfinished. He was able to do that because he inherited the rights and all the notes his father had lying around.
By your logic, anyone can bastardize someone's work as long as they are dead first and screw whatever the author had planned before he died. Much like Stieg Larson, he had 3 sequels to his 'Girl with the Dragon Tatoo' series already drafted out and then he died, so anyone should be able to take his characters and do whatever since he's dead, to hell with his plans for character development or stories!
I can understand not wanting useless people to feed off the success of their parents but as a parent, I want to provide for my child (useless or otherwise).
Make all telcos/ISPs route out to an international networks where it gets 're-encapsulated' to appear that it's coming from outside the US. Seems like an easy way to force compliance, especially if you gently remind companies about the foreign shores they are based in (on paper at least). In fact, that being the case, I wonder if the 'technical' argument can be made that they are foreign entities, so the traffic that generates within the US borders By customers of that company could be considered a 'foreign' network and therefore not subject to any constitutional protections?
There is also the possibility that they are monitoring particular terrorist links but don't want to divulge that. If the terrorists are communicating over text-messages and they have made any effort to compartmentalize information (even a tiny bit), any proactive actions taken by an intelligence agency would lead the terrorists to specific people that are being monitored. That's far more telling from an adversaries perspective then a generic 'all text messages are analyzed'. I am not part of any nations version of a 3-letter agency but I wonder how much damage is done by not wanting to disclose to the enemy specifics of exactly what/who/where/when things are monitored. Much like during WWII, actions needed to be weighed against the value of keeping that line of intelligence open which leads to which atrocities do you permit 'for the greater good' and which do you block. =|
I'd +1 the insightful if I had the points!
They were specifically looking for people entering the secured areas via the exit to baggage (essentially looking for people flowing the wrong way on what should be a one-way passage).
So in that 'matching of population to resources' logic...would you be pro forced abortion or casual abandonment, perhaps drop the newborn across the nearest border?
Forced abortion seems to be one of the ways they enforce the law (though probably not so publicly): http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012...