Hehe, also said I don't believe that theory, just used it as an example. I'm sure when we land on Mars someone will rehash that theory with the word Mars instead of Moon, bet it'll make an interesting documentery though.
Just saying a place in the desert may be a drastically cheaper way to simulate moon liek conditions, but I suppose nothing models the conditions of the moon better than the moon, especially unknown conditions of the moon. Still think it'll be quite expensive but thats why the world lets the Americans shoulder the majority of the cost.
I mentioned the lower gravity as a benifit of a base on the moon, don't get violent.
The poster I responded to was complaining about the shuttle now, not in 2020. he also said there should be a moonbase, he didn't say he was willing to wait. I was saying why they have to wait.
I hope the CEV gets the funding it should get, not like the way the Shuttle project was underfunded and forced to go with cheaper solutions like aluminum instead of titanium and unreusable main fuel tank.
Also, I said the desert looks a hell of a lot like the moon, look at the moonlanding video and try to convince yourself that it doesn't look like a desert. I don't believe that the moonlanding was fakes, I used the conspiracy theory to show how they do in fact look similar.
Don't be dense, the Shuttle is re-usable and what the Russians use is not. Not a fair comparison in that regard. I'm sure the Russians equipment could use a redesign as well.
No, the shuttle is so expensive because the turn around time far exceeds what was estimated when it was designed.
Look at a car, I can drive it cross country and back, give it an oil change and a few other maintainance things to put it back in good condition. I don't need to buy a new car, just some routine maintainance and she's ready for another run.
Another reusable craft would have to have a shorter turnaround time and generally a lower cost per kilo put in orbit, basically a large redesign based on new technology and what we've learned from the Shuttle.
What true benifit for man would a permanent moonbase have? Other than the lower gravity much about the moon could be simulated here on Earth, no? Sure the coolness factor would be great, but it would be quite a while off as they would have to design something to get them there or fly the same stuff they used back in the 70's. (man I would laugh at that)
I've seen some states that would sue the moon for copywrite infringement if they had thought to copywrite their bleakness and what not. Don't many people believe that the original moon landing video was faked as the location looks exactly like the desert near Area 51?
From the NASA site:
The last shuttle mission to visit the ISS during 2002 was STS-113, which delivered the Expedition 6 crew and the P1 (P-One) Truss. The STS-113 crew performed three spacewalks to activate and outfit the P1 after it was attached to the port side of the S0 Truss. Expedition Five returned to Earth on Endeavour, wrapping up a six-month stay in space.
Following the loss of Space Shuttle Columbia on Feb. 1, 2003, the Space Shuttle fleet was grounded. Four crew exchanges have occurred since then using Soyuz spacecraft instead of Shuttles. NASA is targeting no earlier than Spring 2005 for Shuttle's Return to Flight with Discovery flying for STS-114.
Ok, STS-113 in 2002, crash in 2003, now the next one is STS-114? What is the designation for the one that crashed? Is it only counted if it lands? Not Flamebait, just curious. Did the other crash not count?
I don't know about killed... how about replaced? It would be nice to see the revenue from today's costly reusable craft going to fund tomorrow's slightly less expensive (or crash prone) reusable craft.
I'm outraged by this as a Canadian Citizen! Why, if this passes I'll have to move to Can... where does a Canadian move when his govenment starts going crazy for power?
I know its been done before, but I've never seen a laptop with click powering, I would find this useful as the mashing of the keyboard I do when the battery runs out would actually be productive.:)
Plus, this is especially cool in the case of an iPod. Think about it, fill it and its good, forever. No pluggin in for power, just a little crank once in a while and shes good! I would be more impressed with movement power, like those expensive watches. Don't even need to remember to crank, just to stay alive!
I didn't RTFA, but these are my thoughts.
naw, if you were a brainwashed republican you would see this as the good thing to do. and it is only considered paranoia if in fact this isn't what they are doing.
or, if you're realistic, an asskicking on the street when someone seeing you talking on your combadge. and you can't call scotty to beam you out of that one.
or would the gang be too embarrased to kick your ass, as that would imply that they know what a combadge is?
it says "graphics indistinguishable from movies" not "graphics indistinguishable from boobies" like you'd know either way.
just kidding, just kidding, oh, who am i kidding...
anti-flame armor on
Need I even need to say this. As we all know, Pixar is using a beowulf cluster of C64's. Get with the times, man.
Why can't Sony just tell us the truth? The PS3 will be > PS2 and PS4.
Nothing new to see here, just a Sony love fest. Move along.
Or when the first one comes back down in his "re-entry protective blanket" they will launch the next one. They probably shouldn't let the second guy see the first's landing...
Yeah, but notice how they are called the "Russians" these days. I believe he meant that he is glad the Chinese space program isn't starting out the way the Soviet one did (when they were the Soviets, back in the day). Having said that, I like the Russian way of doing space things these days much better than the American way for the reasons you mentioned.
I think the parents have the right to complain. Its not like anyone was expecting nudity, were they? If a show says there's not going to be nudity there shouldn't be any.
Also, someone posted elsewhere that a spammer on foreign soil spamming Americans still have to abide by American law, since they're "doing business" with Americans.
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Hehe, also said I don't believe that theory, just used it as an example. I'm sure when we land on Mars someone will rehash that theory with the word Mars instead of Moon, bet it'll make an interesting documentery though. Just saying a place in the desert may be a drastically cheaper way to simulate moon liek conditions, but I suppose nothing models the conditions of the moon better than the moon, especially unknown conditions of the moon. Still think it'll be quite expensive but thats why the world lets the Americans shoulder the majority of the cost.
you could reuse the debris to make a smashing hobo shelter
Lol, theft insurance? Well, maybe the Russians or Chinese...
I mentioned the lower gravity as a benifit of a base on the moon, don't get violent. The poster I responded to was complaining about the shuttle now, not in 2020. he also said there should be a moonbase, he didn't say he was willing to wait. I was saying why they have to wait. I hope the CEV gets the funding it should get, not like the way the Shuttle project was underfunded and forced to go with cheaper solutions like aluminum instead of titanium and unreusable main fuel tank. Also, I said the desert looks a hell of a lot like the moon, look at the moonlanding video and try to convince yourself that it doesn't look like a desert. I don't believe that the moonlanding was fakes, I used the conspiracy theory to show how they do in fact look similar.
Well Put
Don't be dense, the Shuttle is re-usable and what the Russians use is not. Not a fair comparison in that regard. I'm sure the Russians equipment could use a redesign as well.
No, the shuttle is so expensive because the turn around time far exceeds what was estimated when it was designed. Look at a car, I can drive it cross country and back, give it an oil change and a few other maintainance things to put it back in good condition. I don't need to buy a new car, just some routine maintainance and she's ready for another run. Another reusable craft would have to have a shorter turnaround time and generally a lower cost per kilo put in orbit, basically a large redesign based on new technology and what we've learned from the Shuttle.
What true benifit for man would a permanent moonbase have? Other than the lower gravity much about the moon could be simulated here on Earth, no? Sure the coolness factor would be great, but it would be quite a while off as they would have to design something to get them there or fly the same stuff they used back in the 70's. (man I would laugh at that) I've seen some states that would sue the moon for copywrite infringement if they had thought to copywrite their bleakness and what not. Don't many people believe that the original moon landing video was faked as the location looks exactly like the desert near Area 51?
From the NASA site: The last shuttle mission to visit the ISS during 2002 was STS-113, which delivered the Expedition 6 crew and the P1 (P-One) Truss. The STS-113 crew performed three spacewalks to activate and outfit the P1 after it was attached to the port side of the S0 Truss. Expedition Five returned to Earth on Endeavour, wrapping up a six-month stay in space. Following the loss of Space Shuttle Columbia on Feb. 1, 2003, the Space Shuttle fleet was grounded. Four crew exchanges have occurred since then using Soyuz spacecraft instead of Shuttles. NASA is targeting no earlier than Spring 2005 for Shuttle's Return to Flight with Discovery flying for STS-114. Ok, STS-113 in 2002, crash in 2003, now the next one is STS-114? What is the designation for the one that crashed? Is it only counted if it lands? Not Flamebait, just curious. Did the other crash not count?
I don't know about killed... how about replaced? It would be nice to see the revenue from today's costly reusable craft going to fund tomorrow's slightly less expensive (or crash prone) reusable craft.
The day before my birthday. Too bad I'll be too busy working off my student loan to go see it. Its about time they went back up.
I'm outraged by this as a Canadian Citizen! Why, if this passes I'll have to move to Can... where does a Canadian move when his govenment starts going crazy for power?
I know its been done before, but I've never seen a laptop with click powering, I would find this useful as the mashing of the keyboard I do when the battery runs out would actually be productive. :)
Plus, this is especially cool in the case of an iPod. Think about it, fill it and its good, forever. No pluggin in for power, just a little crank once in a while and shes good! I would be more impressed with movement power, like those expensive watches. Don't even need to remember to crank, just to stay alive!
I didn't RTFA, but these are my thoughts.
When I have that problem I stay home with gun and grenades instead. Video games ae so relaxing (name the bots after hated bose and co-workers)
This looks like the processor set up for the new pentium mentioned in an earlier article. This sucker uses more power than my house!
naw, if you were a brainwashed republican you would see this as the good thing to do. and it is only considered paranoia if in fact this isn't what they are doing.
or, if you're realistic, an asskicking on the street when someone seeing you talking on your combadge. and you can't call scotty to beam you out of that one. or would the gang be too embarrased to kick your ass, as that would imply that they know what a combadge is?
it says "graphics indistinguishable from movies" not "graphics indistinguishable from boobies" like you'd know either way. just kidding, just kidding, oh, who am i kidding... anti-flame armor on
Need I even need to say this. As we all know, Pixar is using a beowulf cluster of C64's. Get with the times, man. Why can't Sony just tell us the truth? The PS3 will be > PS2 and PS4. Nothing new to see here, just a Sony love fest. Move along.
Just don't tell the flat female employee that she requires "Borg Implants"
Or when the first one comes back down in his "re-entry protective blanket" they will launch the next one. They probably shouldn't let the second guy see the first's landing...
Yeah, but notice how they are called the "Russians" these days. I believe he meant that he is glad the Chinese space program isn't starting out the way the Soviet one did (when they were the Soviets, back in the day). Having said that, I like the Russian way of doing space things these days much better than the American way for the reasons you mentioned.
No, 1 + 1 will start to equal "the artist formerly known as two", or one of two's brothers, to or too will take his place.
If they lose the original (can't make a copy of something you don't have 1 of) but yeah, its just to control supply until they can fix this problem.
I think the parents have the right to complain. Its not like anyone was expecting nudity, were they? If a show says there's not going to be nudity there shouldn't be any. Also, someone posted elsewhere that a spammer on foreign soil spamming Americans still have to abide by American law, since they're "doing business" with Americans.