If you haven't been following the story, xorg currently is xfree86 4.3.99presomething fork. Meaning, xorg is almost identical to xfree86 [at this point].
Currently, you won't notice a difference, except the package names. Everything else is essentially the same, including files, their locations, config files, etc.
Ironically enough, this is an example of how OSS project get to set standards, without any cooperation. Slackware and almost every other major distribution [in fact, every major linux distribution that I can think of] have decided to move from product A to product B. By doing that, all of the linux distributions stay compatible.
In addition, what this means is that soon enough you will not have to care what the product A does, and the fact that product B is going on a different path, because everybody will be using product B.
So to sum it up, it seems that dozens of major distributions and thousands of people are deciding on what to do, and they happen to agree as what to do. Quite amazing, ain't it?:)
Simple. Those clusters are used by people. Often by people outside of a given university. Of course, most of the time only the head nodes for process submission are on the outside network.
Consider this: one of the most popular 'broadband' connections is a cable connection. Great downlink, of course. However, the uplink BLOWS. Uploading stuff back to microsoft at 20-30KB/s? That would definitely suck.
Along with other packages. lots of stuff in -current is compiled against -current libs, and he'll have to also get those. Packages from -current are NOT always ready to be on the stable releases.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad. What saves some of us, is when our respective departments/institutes run seperate domainhere.vt.edu mail servers. Thank god we do, otherwise our windows admins would have have a major headache. My institute was saved by clamav, but it could have also been very nasty.
Ironically, open source seems to be helping to stop that. Here's my story:
I use mailscanner [sendmail wrapper] with clamav [opensource antivirus engine]. Clamav was one of the first engines that had definitions for the first mydoom worm. We started catching mydoom around 4:00PM EST, and none have gotten through to our windows workstations.
Thanks to open source, we were able to prevent from contributing to the spread of this worm. So to sum it up: thanks to the clamav folks, and thanks to open source.
The whole show went down the drain. At the beginning it seemed quite exciting and sincere. Now it's full of overhyped bs narration, most parts are donated, each vehicle is built for commercial purposes ["let's advertise terminator 3", "let's sell this"], etc. Jesse seems like a decent guy, he knows that the show got stupid, and he doesn't have much say in what goes in it.
one of such monitoring tools is nagios. it allowes for multiple users, with access limited to view information only on specific hosts/host groups. it's a pain to set up initially, but in the end it works quite nicely. www.nagios.org
For crying out loud, you were teaching kids at a technical school in Poland. That's a nightmare. You should have been armed with a mace and a baseball bat to be able to do your work. Kudos to you for trying though.
I'm still in Blacksburg, va, and I find that verizon does indeed have the best coverage around here. [except when you get to wythvile area, that's when you get dropped to nothing].
Third world countries? forget about them. What makes me think is that 13yr old kids would be on this like flies on fresh dog poo. Imagine - getting paid for playing your favourite game. Income without begging your parents for pocket change. I'm not sure how e-bay verifies age though, so that would be the only obstacle in their path...
I HATE sony after the experience we've had with their technical support and god aweful policy on NOT PROVIDING THE DRIVERS. fsckers. They basically forced us to buy a new set of 'restore cds', just to get one simple utility [i forget which one it was, either a bios setup or video driver for w2k]. I know it probably didn't mean much, but after a 5th phone call, having our techs bounced around between their tech support, I got on the phone and I told the manager, that we'll never buy any of their products again. Surely, from that point we buy only dell laptops.
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This is one odd problem that I have encountered, after upgrading from php 4.2.x to 4.3.x: 4.2 series would NOT complain if there were duplicate definitions of functions in the same file. I would have never noticed that we were using badly written code [or rather, it was somebody's oversight, not to remove the duplicates]. Of course, things went to hell, after php 4.3 didn't want to load files that contained duplicate functions. I was really surprised that php 4.2.x never picked up on that.
We got sales tax, not VAT. In addition, there's quite a difference in having to figure out my sales tax [somewhere around 5%] and say your 19-22% vat. For crying out loud, your silly vat is 4 times higher. Don't get me started on european taxes. Ohh, by the way - I am european. In fact, I am still a citizen of an european country. Guess what, I'm glad I got the hell out of there. Although I'm starting to get off on a rant here:), so back to the point: 5% in sales tax will not break my wallet. There is a bit of difference when that tax is 20%, such as average european VAT.
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If you haven't been following the story, xorg currently is xfree86 4.3.99presomething fork. Meaning, xorg is almost identical to xfree86 [at this point].
Currently, you won't notice a difference, except the package names. Everything else is essentially the same, including files, their locations, config files, etc.
Ironically enough, this is an example of how OSS project get to set standards, without any cooperation. Slackware and almost every other major distribution [in fact, every major linux distribution that I can think of] have decided to move from product A to product B. By doing that, all of the linux distributions stay compatible. :)
In addition, what this means is that soon enough you will not have to care what the product A does, and the fact that product B is going on a different path, because everybody will be using product B.
So to sum it up, it seems that dozens of major distributions and thousands of people are deciding on what to do, and they happen to agree as what to do. Quite amazing, ain't it?
"Why not more? Because that's the largest a swap partition can be"
Just a side note: you can have multiple swap partitions. [not that you need them, but you can have them].
amen. My standard fee for computer related services, while I was in college, was a twelve pack of beer and a pack of cigarettes.
"None of the major distributors ship a pure Linus kernel"
actually, slackware does ship vanilla kernel.
Simple. Those clusters are used by people. Often by people outside of a given university. Of course, most of the time only the head nodes for process submission are on the outside network.
Insightfull my ass. ./configure --prefix=~/whatever
check out checkinstall. your problems will be solved [given you use some packaging system, tgz/rpm/deb/etc]
Uhmm, SuSE Enterprise runs nicely on IBM's ppc 64bit. In fact, that's what IBM ships those babies with.
Consider this: one of the most popular 'broadband' connections is a cable connection. Great downlink, of course. However, the uplink BLOWS. Uploading stuff back to microsoft at 20-30KB/s? That would definitely suck.
Along with other packages. lots of stuff in -current is compiled against -current libs, and he'll have to also get those. Packages from -current are NOT always ready to be on the stable releases.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. What saves some of us, is when our respective departments/institutes run seperate domainhere.vt.edu mail servers. Thank god we do, otherwise our windows admins would have have a major headache. My institute was saved by clamav, but it could have also been very nasty.
Ironically, open source seems to be helping to stop that. Here's my story:
I use mailscanner [sendmail wrapper] with clamav [opensource antivirus engine]. Clamav was one of the first engines that had definitions for the first mydoom worm. We started catching mydoom around 4:00PM EST, and none have gotten through to our windows workstations.
Thanks to open source, we were able to prevent from contributing to the spread of this worm. So to sum it up: thanks to the clamav folks, and thanks to open source.
The whole show went down the drain. At the beginning it seemed quite exciting and sincere. Now it's full of overhyped bs narration, most parts are donated, each vehicle is built for commercial purposes ["let's advertise terminator 3", "let's sell this"], etc. Jesse seems like a decent guy, he knows that the show got stupid, and he doesn't have much say in what goes in it.
what idiot decided to mod this up as informative?
i thought i had a dyslexia. i read that as 'CRIBS' ...
one of such monitoring tools is nagios. it allowes for multiple users, with access limited to view information only on specific hosts/host groups. it's a pain to set up initially, but in the end it works quite nicely. www.nagios.org
and where exactly did you hear about suse? last time i spoke in person with folks who are setting this thing up, no word of suse was mentioned.
For crying out loud, you were teaching kids at a technical school in Poland. That's a nightmare. You should have been armed with a mace and a baseball bat to be able to do your work. Kudos to you for trying though.
I'm still in Blacksburg, va, and I find that verizon does indeed have the best coverage around here. [except when you get to wythvile area, that's when you get dropped to nothing].
Third world countries? forget about them. What makes me think is that 13yr old kids would be on this like flies on fresh dog poo. Imagine - getting paid for playing your favourite game. Income without begging your parents for pocket change. I'm not sure how e-bay verifies age though, so that would be the only obstacle in their path...
I HATE sony after the experience we've had with their technical support and god aweful policy on NOT PROVIDING THE DRIVERS. fsckers. They basically forced us to buy a new set of 'restore cds', just to get one simple utility [i forget which one it was, either a bios setup or video driver for w2k]. I know it probably didn't mean much, but after a 5th phone call, having our techs bounced around between their tech support, I got on the phone and I told the manager, that we'll never buy any of their products again. Surely, from that point we buy only dell laptops.
This is one odd problem that I have encountered, after upgrading from php 4.2.x to 4.3.x: 4.2 series would NOT complain if there were duplicate definitions of functions in the same file. I would have never noticed that we were using badly written code [or rather, it was somebody's oversight, not to remove the duplicates]. Of course, things went to hell, after php 4.3 didn't want to load files that contained duplicate functions. I was really surprised that php 4.2.x never picked up on that.
We got sales tax, not VAT. In addition, there's quite a difference in having to figure out my sales tax [somewhere around 5%] and say your 19-22% vat. For crying out loud, your silly vat is 4 times higher. Don't get me started on european taxes. Ohh, by the way - I am european. In fact, I am still a citizen of an european country. Guess what, I'm glad I got the hell out of there. Although I'm starting to get off on a rant here :), so back to the point: 5% in sales tax will not break my wallet. There is a bit of difference when that tax is 20%, such as average european VAT.