More than likely the term "PC" was used to fit in the title space, no other reason. When dealing with cross-platform anything it's beneficial to be specific about platform. Confusing "PC" with "Windows" is analogous to confusing "The Internet" with "Internet Explorer".
Sorry if I sound like an ass, but I'm really struggling to figure out how your comment is even slightly relevant. A feature comparison means little if a core requirement is cross platform support.
good point. I remember this one episode like 20 years ago where he put this powder in a tank of water then reached without getting his hand wet, I still wonder what that shit was.
If anything, for the amount of complex stuff that they write, their security flaws are hardly a surprise.
The anti-competitive cases are usually about getting Microsoft to focus on their core functionality, like the security of the operating system, rather than write up stupid little weather bug clones for the desktop. Get M$ out of browser space, out of desktop search, get them to quit trying to own everything the user touches and quit using their monopoly status to ship this crap that snuffs out any market emerging on the desktop.
/car analogy/ If Microsoft was a car company, not only would you have only one choice of make, model and year, they would also pitch a fit when someone went about designing new nuts and bolts, car stereos, gps units, windshield wipers, all the while ignoring complaints of exploding cars, because they already have that segment covered. \car analogy\
No Microsoft does not deserve any kind of forgiveness for shipping crap, no business does. Yes programming is hard, but that doesn't mean it will never approach something secure. Seriously, complaining that security bugs are just something to live with because it's "too hard" is some of the whiniest crap I've ever heard. Doctors don't say that can't cure cancer, they say they are working on it, it's a matter of professionalism and pride in your trade. You don't leave dirty dishes in the sink because it is too hard to wash them, grow up, demand more, have some damn standards.
I know this is a bit trollish, for that I apologize, but letting this kind of crap slide is ridiculous if the bug is known work on it, if it's a security bug then it takes precedence over others. Don't whine and say it's too hard, it only floats because noobs think computers are magic.
quite right, restricting things to outbound 911 is overboard. Anyone that needs to be on-call (parents, doctors, IT guys, etc..) will be effectively banned from the theater.
A dual license negates one license when they are incompatible because of restrictions.
Except the only reason to dual license is due to perceived perceptions. All you really have to do (as a developer) is cater to one side. This is a bit simpler than just forking everything. That's why MySQL did it and the FSF, if faced with losing their grip on their software, will cater to the community, dual licenses are preferable when compared to people adding new functionality to existing GPLv2 software. Examples of this are everywhere, for instance M$s shared source license are an example of dual licensing while favoring one side.
I don't really think it would be a fork, if the demand was high enough, I don't see why they wouldn't just be dual licensed. Actually forking the software would create one god awful mess as the division grew larger.
It's not any different than those places, it's a different device. A dr. (or anyone for that matter) at a hockey game, movie or whatever has a very valid purpose for carrying a cell phone with them. These cell phones are slowly turning into catch all devices, that will inevitably lead to abuse.
Except that the "mistakes" like these are done by the government, so that you would think exactly that.
I know you're joking, but it's really called misinformation and could easily be used to discourage from people estimating the real number. Maybe earlier estimates were dead on, and the DIA got a little sketched. Bottom line, intelligence like this is very weak because your main source is also your target, god only knows what they're lying and what kind of paranoid off the wall scheme they are going to come up with next.
I know you're joking, but I think you've kinda stumbled on to something.
These ads are not super bowl quality and are nowhere near what Heinz is used to. I think It all boils down to venue, honesty, and target audience. Traditionally Heinz will generate some glossy, processed, 1min. clip designed to remind people Heinz ketchup exists without leaving anyone offended, then they use a shotgun approach and put this commercial in any time slot deemed profitable per the ratings. The Internet tie in is different, sometimes offensive and works specifically with a demographic that relies on the computer for entertainment at least as much as the TV. This is what I think Heinz ought to do:
Find a TV station or show where the audience is receptive to this sort of tie-in. (think Attack of the Show, G4/techtv, Adult Swim, or maybe a little niche on MTV somewhere).
Be Honest. Tell the viewers exactly what it is they are watching. Heck, you can even be a little cynical about it then present the guy brushing his teeth with ketchup, this could be really funny given the right audience (those that know youtube can be a freak show).
Demographic, the people this commercial works for are between the ages of 16-30, use the Internet daily, are likely to watch tv shows that tie in with the net well, and they are used to the idiocy that is Youtube.
Profit!
It wasn't long ago that I read on slash somewhere that a large percentage of the US doesn't plan on even buying a computer ever. This means that on TV you can ask people to visit a website, on the Internet you can ask them to watch TV, on the Internet you can place content from television, but if you plan on placing Internet content on the television you have absolutely got to target the right audience. This is where Aqua Teen Hunger Force messed up in their movie promo, Boston (as a hole) didn't know what the hell those little LED signs were. I personally love Adult Swim, and wouldn't think twice about seeing a youtube Heinz commercial aired between ATHF and The Family Guy, because that channel/show block has a very high level of Internet tie-in already. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a Heinz commercial in that block of shows anyway, so Heinz may really benefit from running with the campaign as it is.
Having said all of this, I don't like to see people discrediting this form of customer participation, http://www.deviantart.com/ does a very good job with graphic arts tie ins and gives those indy artists a nice way to boost their portfolios. Video is just little bit trickier for the amateur to pull off, but when the Internet is ready for professional grade indy commercial contests, companies like Heinz will undoubtedly be surprised at what they can get through a contest.
Dear god,
I know I've talked bad about creationism, fundamentalists, and the rest of the neo-con prayer comittee, heck I've even called you a spaghetti monster, but if I was wrong, then I am sorry. I just realized that even though I am a young man, I may not long enough to see something very, very beautiful. If I have ever done anything right then puuuhhhlleeaase let me live long enough to watch Microsoft burn out and die in exactly the same way SCO has. I will always do the "right" thing in your eyes if only you grant me this one wish.
thank y... err I mean Amen.
Shuttleworth might be a better guy to line up with Jobs and Gates.
Shuttleworth is a neat idea, but he doesn't quite represent OSS all by himself. I'm beginning to think that an OSS forum might work better. RMS, ESR, Shuttleworth, Linus, Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, and relevant representatives from other sources, just basically shooting the sh*t about the future of OSS. That might be cool, but completely inappropriate for this particular interview. Maybe an all inclusive OSS representative might come out of meetings like this though.
Mod parent into the dirt before he hurts someone.
Um, no the term "PC" has not evolved.
http://www.google.com/search?q=PC
More than likely the term "PC" was used to fit in the title space, no other reason. When dealing with cross-platform anything it's beneficial to be specific about platform. Confusing "PC" with "Windows" is analogous to confusing "The Internet" with "Internet Explorer".
Sorry if I sound like an ass, but I'm really struggling to figure out how your comment is even slightly relevant. A feature comparison means little if a core requirement is cross platform support.
eureka maybe it's cold fusion!!!
thanks, it's literally been haunting me for years.
You mean they pretended to blow this guy up and he only gets 648 results on google. Heh athf fucking rocks!!!
good point. I remember this one episode like 20 years ago where he put this powder in a tank of water then reached without getting his hand wet, I still wonder what that shit was.
Here and I thought you were trolling, heh.
http://news.google.com/news?&q=mr.%20mcmahon
The anti-competitive cases are usually about getting Microsoft to focus on their core functionality, like the security of the operating system, rather than write up stupid little weather bug clones for the desktop. Get M$ out of browser space, out of desktop search, get them to quit trying to own everything the user touches and quit using their monopoly status to ship this crap that snuffs out any market emerging on the desktop.
No Microsoft does not deserve any kind of forgiveness for shipping crap, no business does. Yes programming is hard, but that doesn't mean it will never approach something secure. Seriously, complaining that security bugs are just something to live with because it's "too hard" is some of the whiniest crap I've ever heard. Doctors don't say that can't cure cancer, they say they are working on it, it's a matter of professionalism and pride in your trade. You don't leave dirty dishes in the sink because it is too hard to wash them, grow up, demand more, have some damn standards.
I know this is a bit trollish, for that I apologize, but letting this kind of crap slide is ridiculous if the bug is known work on it, if it's a security bug then it takes precedence over others. Don't whine and say it's too hard, it only floats because noobs think computers are magic.
quite right, restricting things to outbound 911 is overboard. Anyone that needs to be on-call (parents, doctors, IT guys, etc..) will be effectively banned from the theater.
Except the only reason to dual license is due to perceived perceptions. All you really have to do (as a developer) is cater to one side. This is a bit simpler than just forking everything. That's why MySQL did it and the FSF, if faced with losing their grip on their software, will cater to the community, dual licenses are preferable when compared to people adding new functionality to existing GPLv2 software. Examples of this are everywhere, for instance M$s shared source license are an example of dual licensing while favoring one side.
I don't really think it would be a fork, if the demand was high enough, I don't see why they wouldn't just be dual licensed. Actually forking the software would create one god awful mess as the division grew larger.
It's not any different than those places, it's a different device. A dr. (or anyone for that matter) at a hockey game, movie or whatever has a very valid purpose for carrying a cell phone with them. These cell phones are slowly turning into catch all devices, that will inevitably lead to abuse.
FP was rather thorough, but you bring up an extremely valid point. What happens when there's 10,000 fans trying to blog from their phones.
I don't know how you got OT, I found it helpful as I didn't realize 5 and % share the same key.
I know you're joking, but it's really called misinformation and could easily be used to discourage from people estimating the real number. Maybe earlier estimates were dead on, and the DIA got a little sketched. Bottom line, intelligence like this is very weak because your main source is also your target, god only knows what they're lying and what kind of paranoid off the wall scheme they are going to come up with next.
I know you're joking, but I think you've kinda stumbled on to something.
These ads are not super bowl quality and are nowhere near what Heinz is used to. I think It all boils down to venue, honesty, and target audience. Traditionally Heinz will generate some glossy, processed, 1min. clip designed to remind people Heinz ketchup exists without leaving anyone offended, then they use a shotgun approach and put this commercial in any time slot deemed profitable per the ratings. The Internet tie in is different, sometimes offensive and works specifically with a demographic that relies on the computer for entertainment at least as much as the TV. This is what I think Heinz ought to do:
It wasn't long ago that I read on slash somewhere that a large percentage of the US doesn't plan on even buying a computer ever. This means that on TV you can ask people to visit a website, on the Internet you can ask them to watch TV, on the Internet you can place content from television, but if you plan on placing Internet content on the television you have absolutely got to target the right audience. This is where Aqua Teen Hunger Force messed up in their movie promo, Boston (as a hole) didn't know what the hell those little LED signs were. I personally love Adult Swim, and wouldn't think twice about seeing a youtube Heinz commercial aired between ATHF and The Family Guy, because that channel/show block has a very high level of Internet tie-in already. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a Heinz commercial in that block of shows anyway, so Heinz may really benefit from running with the campaign as it is.
Having said all of this, I don't like to see people discrediting this form of customer participation, http://www.deviantart.com/ does a very good job with graphic arts tie ins and gives those indy artists a nice way to boost their portfolios. Video is just little bit trickier for the amateur to pull off, but when the Internet is ready for professional grade indy commercial contests, companies like Heinz will undoubtedly be surprised at what they can get through a contest.
Skin a Scion, on deviantart.com
yea, when I read that I accidentily crossed my eyes trying to figure it all out.
nah, he's probably a texan, they execute the retarded. Don't know how Bush got through, but I hear that's what they do.
you're a mean, mean man.
It would be thoroughly pleasing to see a link on groklaw. "Support Groklaw... give Darl a dollar"
Dear god,
I know I've talked bad about creationism, fundamentalists, and the rest of the neo-con prayer comittee, heck I've even called you a spaghetti monster, but if I was wrong, then I am sorry. I just realized that even though I am a young man, I may not long enough to see something very, very beautiful. If I have ever done anything right then puuuhhhlleeaase let me live long enough to watch Microsoft burn out and die in exactly the same way SCO has. I will always do the "right" thing in your eyes if only you grant me this one wish.
thank y... err I mean Amen.
http://www.dell.com/linux
If you reply that EMT64 will still run 64-bit software, I'm going to scream.
Shuttleworth is a neat idea, but he doesn't quite represent OSS all by himself. I'm beginning to think that an OSS forum might work better. RMS, ESR, Shuttleworth, Linus, Michael Dell, Steve Jobs, and relevant representatives from other sources, just basically shooting the sh*t about the future of OSS. That might be cool, but completely inappropriate for this particular interview. Maybe an all inclusive OSS representative might come out of meetings like this though.