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1 Billion PCs by End of 2008

javipas writes "Acording to a study published by Forrester Research, 2008 will be the year in wich a psychological barrier will be surpassed. By the end of next year there will be 1.000.000.000 computers all around the world, a number that will double itself in just five more years. The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible for 775 million new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one."

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  1. Typo by lessthan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I think I got FP, but I want to come up with something insightful. All I got though is 75%. Good Day.

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    1. Re:Typo by x_MeRLiN_x · · Score: 1, Funny

      Psychological barrier?

      "Hmmmm.. This new shipment will take us over the 1B mark.."
      "Oh really? In that case I'm not sure we can manage it."

    2. Re:Typo by lessthan · · Score: 0, Redundant

      How did I get OT?? The summary clearly said 755. A typo, a mistake anyone could make, but I knew somebody'd bring it up, so I did it first.

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    3. Re:Typo by cyphercell · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I don't know how you got OT, I found it helpful as I didn't realize 5 and % share the same key.

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    4. Re:Typo by lessthan · · Score: 0, Redundant

      LOL, point a finger in accusation and there are three pointed back.

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    5. Re:Typo by AvitarX · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I bet there is a mod troll.

      Or were you flaming so subtly I missed it?

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    6. Re:Typo by JamesTRexx · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'll go for more /. insightful..

      But, will those 775 run Linux?

      :-P

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    7. Re:Typo by theStorminMormon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You could have just pointed out that 775 computers isn't a lot for Brazil, China, etc. Especially sharing between them.

      Guess you were too busy frist pwnsting to get the actual typo in there, eh?

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    8. Re:Typo by trolltalk.com · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hopefully they'll ship with a spelling and grammar checker:

      Acording [spelling] to a study published by Forrester Research, 2008 will be the year in wich [spelling] a psychological barrier will be surpassed. By the end of next year there will be 1.000.000.000 computers all [no computer is big enough to be "all around the world"] around the world [CC], a number that will double itself [superfluous "itself"] in just five more years. The reason: the [punctuation - first word after a full colon should be capitalized] emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or [should be "and"] Russia, which will be responsible of [should be "for"] 775 [missing a few zeroes] new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one. [awkward sentence construct, wrong use of "them", superfluous "one"]"

      It reads like spam ... did anyone actually edit this?

    9. Re:Typo by nagora · · Score: 1, Informative
      [punctuation - first word after a full colon should be capitalized]

      Certainly not the case in English English; I don't know if it's true in American English.

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    10. Re:Typo by lessthan · · Score: 0

      I hang my head in shame. It was my first first post. I was nervous, excited, worried and I posted too quickly. She said... wait, what are we talking about?

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    11. Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to say "No" on American English.

    12. Re:Typo by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nor in American English. Take my comment with a grain of salt, as I always got higher marks in Maths than English. Of course, being on Slashdot, that should be assumed.

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    13. Re:Typo by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1

      Semicolon = next word is lowercase. Full colon = next word is uppercase.

      Practical example - look at how you begin letters:

      "Dear Sir or Madame:"

      Yadda yadda yadda ...

      Its the way they taught it in typing class back in the old days of manual typewriters. Just like 2 spaces after each period, 8 spaces == 1 tab, etc. The semi-colon signals "less of an interruption" in the sentence structure.

    14. Re:Typo by smithbp · · Score: 1

      Isn't English English known as The Queen's English?

    15. Re:Typo by rblancarte · · Score: 1

      I was wondering the same thing. Exactly what is Psychological about 1 billion PCs? I mean, did we not think it would get this far? Seriously, we aren't talking the 4 minute mile. We are talking sales of a THING. I don't think it would ever be out of the question to say something would ring a total of 1 billion sales.

      RonB

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    16. Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so does that mean there are nine fingers pointed back at you now?

    17. Re:Typo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    18. Re:Typo by chiok · · Score: 1

      We don't think so.

    19. Re:Typo by bibi-pov · · Score: 1

      He must have been, because I didn't notice anything wrong with what he said. I actually think he's right and what he pointed out should be corrected... Sometimes mod puzzles me....

    20. Re:Typo by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Well, the one billion figure is just marketing inflation anyway. The real barrier is of course 1024*1024*1024 as everyone here knows....

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    21. Re:Typo by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, you're just wrong: like many other people on slashdot, you have mis-remembered advice given to you when you were younger.

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    22. Re:Typo by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1

      Actually, even more recent online manuals of style allude to the old rule of "capitalize after a colon." They state its not followed so much any more, but that's because of a general laxness in a lot of areas nowadays.

      Look at how many people can't spell basic words: "grammer", "gramer", "wierd", "thier", "formating", "referer" - yes, that last one is a stinker we're stuck with in the standards, but we really should break down and fix it.

      So - how many "r"s in referrer?

      Not one.

      Not 2

      4

    23. Re:Typo by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      eureka maybe it's cold fusion!!!

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  2. In other news by Yetihehe · · Score: 5, Funny

    By the end of next year there will be 900.000.000 infected computers.

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    1. Re:In other news by neoform · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our future zombie overlords..

      (yeah, it's a tired joke, i know)

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    2. Re:In other news by rupert0 · · Score: 1

      All running windows vista

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  3. IPv6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good thing IPv6 is just around the corner, what with two billion PCs in 5 years.

    1. Re:IPv6 by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      IPv6 won't be around on anywhere near the scale needed for worldwide deployment in the next five years. Reason being that it will take ~20 more years for all the current patents on IPv6 to expire. No private company is going to run the risk of litigation before then.

      The USPTO, will truly, break the network.

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    2. Re:IPv6 by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      Was that exaggeration/rant, or are there actually patents on IPv6? That would seem strange given it's an open protocol. On what technology in particular?

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    3. Re:IPv6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good argument to not use IPv6 for the next 10 years ;-)

  4. That will be it then by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 4, Funny

    The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers. Seven hundred and seventy five computers!!!!! Wow, now that's what I call an emerging market
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    1. Re:That will be it then by nganju · · Score: 0

      No, they will be responsible of 775 new computers. When you're responsible of something, I guess you multiply it by one million.

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    2. Re:That will be it then by spellraiser · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      You're forgetting that substituting 'of' for 'for' means 'multiply the following by 10,000'.

      I know, grammar is complicated ...

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    3. Re:That will be it then by tehshen · · Score: 1

      77% perhaps?

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    4. Re:That will be it then by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure they meant 775.000. I mean, that's the same number, but accurate to three places beyond the decimal, so you know there are no fractional computers. Or at least, that the fractional computers sum to an integer.

      What I'd really like to see is for them to patch up the error that says there's going to be *one* computer at the end of '08 (and to ten significant figures, no less!). Perhaps they meant a billion?

    5. Re:That will be it then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      to go with those few hundreds legit copies of Windows Vista (TM). ;)

    6. Re:That will be it then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, outside of your no doubt US bubble, most of the world uses 'decimal' points instead of commas when writing numbers.

    7. Re:That will be it then by inAbsurdum · · Score: 1

      Seven hundred and seventy five computers!!!!! Wow, now that's what I call an emerging market well, 775 is a significantly higher number than the 5 (five) computers IBM initially predicted would reach the world market.
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  5. Huh? by mdobossy · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers.
    Uhhhhh... yeah..
    1. Re:Huh? by Technician · · Score: 1

      countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers.

      They are only counting the ones sold with a legal copy of Vista.

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  6. 775? by slart42 · · Score: 1

    [quote]The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers.[/quote]

    So there are 999,999,225 PCs right now?

  7. Whaaa???? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one."
    "Asparagus. Fireplace. Ladder. Mosquito." makes as much sense.
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    1. Re:Whaaa???? by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "Asparagus. Fireplace. Ladder. Mosquito." makes as much sense. That explains a lot, actually...
    2. Re:Whaaa???? by mcvos · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one."
      "Asparagus. Fireplace. Ladder. Mosquito." makes as much sense.

      Really? You're making perfect sense to me, unlike the summary.

    3. Re:Whaaa???? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      Octopus banana. You're too fire hydrant.

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    4. Re:Whaaa???? by Himring · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      "Asparagus. Fireplace. Ladder. Mosquito."

      I know! A vegetarian house fire in the Caribbean! ... in winter!...

      Anyone else remember 10,000 Pyramid game show?

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    5. Re:Whaaa???? by slashbob22 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Octopus banana. You're too fire hydrant. Dear Sir
      I appreciate your joke. I however am concerned with the fact that I now have coffee on my monitor. Please sent $3 and a paper towel to:

      Coffee-less Dude
      c/o Slashdot
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    6. Re:Whaaa???? by IP_Troll · · Score: 1

      77% maybe... missed the shift key?

    7. Re:Whaaa???? by mnmn · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the additional PCs will improve written or typed English worldwide.

      On the flip side of the coin, the English will be "OMG, emerging markets! LOL!".

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    8. Re:Whaaa???? by bcmm · · Score: 1

      Please, please, please mod parent underrated. This is the first post I've ever seen which deserves +5, Offtopic.

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    9. Re:Whaaa???? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 1

      Please accept my sincere wedding cake. I can assure you it will never lizzard again.

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    10. Re:Whaaa???? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Purple dog dishwasher liquify? Raging clip-art!

    11. Re:Whaaa???? by NSIM · · Score: 1

      perhaps his shift key was broke and he intended to write 77% of new PCs and laptops, and that's figure I'll believe when I see it

    12. Re:Whaaa???? by LMacG · · Score: 1

      Hey, have you been reading the subject lines in my gmail spam folder?

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    13. Re:Whaaa???? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      "Asparagus. Fireplace. Ladder. Mosquito." makes as much sense.

      Sounds like a solution to a Monkey's Island puzzle....

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  8. So this is why... by dealmaster00 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...they are called developing countries: "Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers."

  9. Re:Which wich is it? by Yetihehe · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I think you meant witch.

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  10. ok, so which joke do we go for here... by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do we go with "billions and billions of" or the pinky held up to the mouth? Sagan or Evil? Maybe Evil Sagan? Yeah, Evil Sagan. I'm imagining passages from Demon-Haunted World read with a Dr. Evil accent. That's the ticket.

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  11. Re:775? by MankyD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, referring to 1,000,000,000 as a "psychological barrier" is kind of a strange term. It doesn't block our thought processes. Calling it a "symbolic mile-stone" might be more appropriate.

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  12. My that's one big botnet by the_humeister · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Perhaps we should start making environmentally friendly computers? I certainly don't want any of those toxins in my ground water.

    1. Re:My that's one big botnet by Cheapy · · Score: 1

      I do.

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    2. Re:My that's one big botnet by owlstead · · Score: 1

      That's one weird title for the content of your response.

  13. Skew by Kyont · · Score: 1

    > 1.000.000.000 computers all around the world, a number that will double itself in just five more years

    > Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers

    That does it - I'm going to invest in the American and European markets! They will be responsible for nearly 99.9999225% of all growth in the PC market. Statistics don't lie.

    I feel sorry for all those developing-world coders, fighting for time on less than a thousand new PCs.

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    1. Re:Skew by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      Statistics don't lie ... but liars are sadistic. *rimshot*

  14. psychological? by uofitorn · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...2008 will be the year in which a psychological barrier will be surpassed."

    If Bill Cosby ever decides to do a "Nerds say the dumbest things" show, it won't be hard to find good material here.

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  15. The unfortunate part.. by perlhacker14 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    While it is great that the use of computers is becoming widespread and accessible to nearly all, what is not great is the fact that most of them will run windows. What needs to be done is to offer linux (preferably something simple for end users like Ubuntu) along side windows, for a lower price. There needs to be a marketing campaign in third world countries that pushes linux over windows as a cheaper alternative, in a money strained place.

    1. Re:The unfortunate part.. by ajs318 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think Microsoft will pee on their chips sometime in the near future. (They already pee on your chips and tell you it's vinegar, but I'm mixing my metaphors there.)

      Open Source OSes are going from strength to strength. The only thing Microsoft have anymore is artificial vendor lock-in (which is in breach of EU law). We know about the document formats issue, but there will come a point where the benefit of no longer being tied to Microsoft will outweigh the disadvantage of not being able to open legacy documents anymore. At that point, businesses will just decide to cut their losses.

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  16. A Waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And almost all of those billion PCs will eventually find their way into tips and landfils, or crude pollutive 'recycling' pots in third world countries.

    The turnover of computers is so fast not because of natural outdating and failure of hardware but because of the bloating of operating systems and applications software. Windows 95 only needed 4mb of RAM. The increase of RAM and CPU requirements vastly outstrips increases of functionality and mostly resembles Moore's Law.

    People keep on buying expensive new computers to do the same things at the same speed. How many gigabytes of RAM will you need to check your email in 2020?

    1. Re:A Waste by jshriverWVU · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Windows 95 only needed 4mb of RAM

      Flashback, wow... actually by todays standards what would qualify as an embedded system.

    2. Re:A Waste by PenisLands · · Score: 1

      How many gigabytes of RAM will you need to check your email in 2020?

      Probably a ridiculous amount, judging by the increasing bloat of today's software. And then when you try to show people how ridiculous it's getting, they'll make a remarks like "Well DUH! Shouldn't you think of replacing your old commodore 64!?!?!?!?".

    3. Re:A Waste by Dan+Ost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now that computer technology has roughly plateaued, this replacement cycle will lengthen. We no longer live in a day where you need to upgrade your computer every couple of years just to handle software requirements. Computers are fast enough now that you're only forced to upgrade when your old computer dies.

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    4. Re:A Waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Windows 95 only needed 4mb of RAM

      I assume that is with swap enabled and it made use of swap during the boot process. I highly doubt that Windows 95 could have actually run on 4MB of ram without swap.

    5. Re:A Waste by saider · · Score: 1

      You're not running Vista!

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    6. Re:A Waste by vivaoporto · · Score: 1

      Well, you have to keep in mind that, even considering swap, hard drives by the time didn't have that much space, although they occupied a lot of it. Take a look at this comparison, a 5.25" 111 MB MFM drive against a 2.5" 6495 MB IDE drive. I remember running Windows 95 on a Pentium MMX 133MHz with a 256 MB HD and 8 MB RAM. I even managed to install Windows 98 on it, but it was a big mistake, as Win 98 SE hadn't been released yet and the first version (as most O.S. that come out Redmond since ever) was miserably buggy.

      Time passes, and nowadays a cellphone has more power than that machine. That's progress.

    7. Re:A Waste by Dan+Ost · · Score: 1

      I imagine that very few people will buy new machines just to be able to run Vista. People will run what they've got until they need a new machine. If that new machine comes with Vista, they'll simply adapt.

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    8. Re:A Waste by moranar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ahem. I was there, and I remember Windows 95 did jack shit with 4 mb of RAM. Maybe you're thinking of Windows 3.11?

      From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_'95 :
      "Official system requirements were an Intel 80386 DX CPU of any speed, 4 MB of system RAM, and 50 MB of hard drive space. These minimal claims were made in order to maximize the available market of Windows 3.1 converts. This configuration was distinctly suboptimal for any productive use on anything but single tasking dedicated workstations due to the heavy reliance on virtual memory. Also, in some cases, if any networking or similar components were installed the system would refuse to boot with 4 Megabytes of RAM. It was possible to run Windows 95 on a 386 SX but this led to even less acceptable performance. To achieve optimal performance, Microsoft recommends an Intel 80486 or compatible microprocessor with at least 8 MB of RAM."

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    9. Re:A Waste by vasqzr · · Score: 1


      Time passes, and nowadays a cellphone has more power than that machine. That's progress.

      Yea, but have you used a cell phone lately? The UI's are so slow you'd think they had the power of a original IBM PC.

    10. Re:A Waste by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Now, now, now.... It is true that I find magnificent machines in the dumpster. I doubt however, that they all will find their way to the landfills. I have found an AMD 1.2GHz in the dumpster (no RAM, but I still had some around), and the gem I found in a dumpster was a P-IV 1.9GHz/512Meg/40Gig harddisk/Dualhead Matrox card. Now, I saved those and intend to give them away to less fortunate people. Alas, there are no institutions that take them in my country as far as I know (if you know anyone in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg or nearby...I'm not driving 100km to deposit used computers). I'm willing to load them with Ubuntu and give them away.

      I am the first level of "recycling", what is dumped will most probably be inspected by many people after me. Perhaps not in my country, but whenever there is someone with a clue, those machines can and will be saved.

      I also know about a kid that replaced his P-IV 2.6GHz/1Gig RAM machine with a newer gaming system. I'll simply refurbish his machine for his parents.

      I know this is a drip on a hot plate, but many of us dumpster divers will save machines to help the less fortunate. True enough, I don't even take P-III class machines, but only because for now I do not have enough storage space. A 1GHz/512Meg RAM machine is more than capable of running Ubuntu with basic Office applications.

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    11. Re:A Waste by junglee_iitk · · Score: 1

      Windows 95 only needed 4mb of RAM.
      Windows 95 did jack shit with 4 mb of RAM.
      "... . To achieve optimal performance, Microsoft recommends an Intel 80486 or compatible microprocessor with at least 8 MB of RAM."

      You so opened my eyes to the reality. I almost felt like a blind for a moment! GGP was such an jack-ass, missed the whole point!!
    12. Re:A Waste by moranar · · Score: 1

      I know, I know. The difference between 4 and 8 or 16 MB is nothing compared to what we use nowadays. Still, if you're gonna mention numbers, be precise. Otherwise, why point numbers? Mac OS 7 used 1 MB for a graphical desktop, then. I'm sure other projects had small footprints, too.

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    13. Re:A Waste by guruevi · · Score: 1

      Ahem... I was there even earlier (I think). Windows 95 didn't do jack shit on a 486 with 8MB of RAM. I had a 486DX @ 100MHz, 16MB of RAM and 300MB disk and it still was slow compared to OS/2 Warp on the same machine. It started working decent with 16-32MB of RAM and a Pentium processor at 75 or 133MHz.

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    14. Re:A Waste by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Ahem. I was there, and I remember Windows 95 did jack shit with 4 mb of RAM. Maybe you're thinking of Windows 3.11?

      Nevertheless, it would still run on 4MB of ram. The parent is correct. I seem to remember once installed, you could disable a bunch of crap, pull some ram, and get it to boot up with 2MB if you were a real masochist.

    15. Re:A Waste by feedmetrolls · · Score: 0

      How many gigabytes of RAM will you need to check your email in 2020?

      On Windows Visiotechnicaq: 1024

      On Mac OS 12.3: 512

      On Ubuntu 20.4 (Manic Muskrat): 128

      But then again, who needs e-mail when you got telepathic IM?

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    16. Re:A Waste by moranar · · Score: 1

      You're kindly invited to edit the wikipedia page, then :)

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    17. Re:A Waste by moranar · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean it didn't boot: I meant it could do nothing useful, except give you a smug feeling of achievement once you got it to boot on 2 MB. It's an important distinction.

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    18. Re:A Waste by somasynth · · Score: 1

      this replacement cycle will lengthen That's what I thought in 1995. And then again in 2000. Third time's the charm?
  17. Imagine a beowolf cluster... by sakdoctor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Imagine a botnet of these!

  18. A bit low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers."

    Somehow I'd think India alone would be using more than 775 new PC's. Gotta feed the call centers anyway.

  19. prize by freeasinrealale · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think billionth should get a prize. A share in M$... a chair from chairman Ballmer... a big Mac... The mind boggles.

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  20. Handcranks... by blankoboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Better get some hand-cranks on those suckers because in 5 years times electricity (along with gas) will no longer be the take for granted utility that it is now.

    1. Re:Handcranks... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Better get some hand-cranks on those suckers because in 5 years times electricity (along with gas) will no longer be the take for granted utility that it is now.

      Next-generation solar panels have three times the output of current models and if we chose we could be putting up nuclear reactors, using breeders to reprocess spent fuel, making nuclear not only profitable but also just about the cleanest thing around short of solar and wind. And given crystalline solar panels, it might be more clean than them, too.

      There are certainly problems coming up, but I don't think that's one of them. Bigger problems will involve having low enough CO2 and high enough O2 in the air to breathe properly, having temperatures and weather patterns that permit production of food, et cetera.

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    2. Re:Handcranks... by inviolet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      having temperatures and weather patterns that permit production of food, et cetera.

      Moving the temperate zones away from the equator and towards the poles will create more agricultural land, not less. Do you have any idea how much tundra there is, just sitting there uselessly frozen?

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    3. Re:Handcranks... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Moving the temperate zones away from the equator and towards the poles will create more agricultural land, not less. Do you have any idea how much tundra there is, just sitting there uselessly frozen?

      There's more to arable land than temperature.

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    4. Re:Handcranks... by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

      Get one yourself, Russia and China got plenty of fuel to last them in to the next millennium and Nuclear power plants on top of that.

      Remember, those countries were built with an infrastructure that can run at the worst situations possible while America and Canada seem to grind to a halt if you cut the power.

    5. Re:Handcranks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That is why we need to bring back smallpox and get the population down. Come on smallpox!

    6. Re:Handcranks... by Dzimas · · Score: 1

      The word tundra comes from the Finnish word for barren or treeless land. You're not going to be growing much in a tundra rock field that's capable of supporting little more than lichen in the sparse soil. Personally, I'm going to buy a few acres somewhere in Sussex and wait for the polar ice caps to melt so I can flood my rice paddies. ;)

  21. 1 Billion Computers Without Spellcheck by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1

    Or is it "spelcheck"?

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  22. Worst summary...EVER by Uthic · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Does ANYONE proof-read these things ? *boggle*

    1. Re:Worst summary...EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taco is in competition with the other editors for posting the Most Incoherent Summary Ever.

      I'd put Taco in the lead with this one.

      Go Taco!

  23. It's a keylogger! by Ogive17 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Sounds like a WoW keylogger post.

    Time to sex up the girl!

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  24. You think that's a big number... by cmorriss · · Score: 1

    To computers, the more important year is 2009 when we'll have 1000000000000000000000000000000 PC's!

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  25. Re:775? by Ucklak · · Score: 1, Informative

    I believe the 775 is a typo in conjunction with the FP. I assume it to mean 77%.

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  26. Well, you're assuming... by mdm-adph · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...that the OLPC will be released sometime within the next decade.

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    1. Re:Well, you're assuming... by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      I find my rating of "flamebait" personally hilarious, since if you'd read my blog you'd find that I am (and have always) been an OLPC supporter. I'm just beginning to get a bit jaded at the constant setbacks, and I've always found that a few personal jabs in the direction of a company you're trying to help can sometimes light a fire under their ass.

      I also make fun of ATI (I love them, only use them, but their Linux support is terrible) and AMD (once again, I run only AMD, but they should've spent less money on buying ATI and more money on developing 65nm chips).

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  27. Congratulations! You own the 1 Billionth PC by knightf0x · · Score: 0, Redundant

    With only 775 to go, I guess I should go buy one soon to win the prize!

    1. Re:Congratulations! You own the 1 Billionth PC by feedmetrolls · · Score: 0

      Congratulations! You own the 1 Billionth PC

      "Click here to get claim your free laptop!"


      Stupid banner ads!

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  28. Or? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia...

    We are not sure which one of these it is, but it has to be one of them!

  29. The missing millions... by Bazman · · Score: 1

    I suspect this is a classic typo error. A bit like this one: http://www.ntk.net/2003/01/10/dohmus.gif or even this one: http://www.ntk.net/2004/05/28/doh2e.gif

    1. Re:The missing millions... by Bazman · · Score: 1

      The motherlode of missing millions stories:

      http://www.xcom2002.com/doh/viewer.php?category=mi s

        should you care.

  30. Re:775? by Karganeth · · Score: 1

    I feel that calling it an "arbitrary mile-stone" would be the most appropriate.

  31. WORST SENTENCE EVAR!11!!!!!! by quonsar · · Score: 1, Funny

    The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one."

    Brazil, China, India OR Russia, make up your minds. ("responsible of 775" and "OLPC's one" already adequately mocked above)

  32. Cool by rodney+dill · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    BSOD^9

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  33. And my first thought at seeing the title of this.. by Name+Anonymous · · Score: 1

    And my first thought at seeing the title of this was the song 1,000,000 Lawyers by Tom Paxton.

  34. 775 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously someone has been chmodding files far too long.

  35. vs 2B cellphones today by blackdefiance · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are already over 2B active cellphones in the world, and there will be more by the end of 2008... an interesting comparison of market penetration.

    1. Re:vs 2B cellphones today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And everyday more and more of these devices are multimedia computers (portable multimedia devices that you can also use as a cellphone). Many of these convergence products are capable of doing most of the everyday tasks people do on their computer...

    2. Re:vs 2B cellphones today by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every individual doesn't need their own personal computer for the maximum benefit, unlike cellphones.

  36. Wacky thousands separators by mrphrtq · · Score: 0

    I read it as One dot zero zero zero dot...

    Or

    One

    Hmmm.

    Skynet?

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  37. First freaking word... by scuba964 · · Score: 1

    "Acording"? Kumpooters dune us good!

  38. and this story gets approved by Slashdot while by doyoudig · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I always get screwed 1005 of the time.......

  39. What about computers no longer in use ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What did they do, just count the cumulative sum of all the p/cs ever produced, less the number we know have been landfilled? Lots of p/cs are just sitting around unused but not disposed of, lots have just gone into the dumpster and not been counted, and I know there are still windoze 95 machines ( probably not networked ) that are still doing everything their owners want eg Word Perfect. Where did they cutoff?

  40. Mod everybody offtopic! by mcvos · · Score: 1

    Funny or not, somebody here doesn't like people mocking the editor's dyslexia, and is modding everybody offtopic.

  41. In still other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In still other news, both Lunix and OSX will still capture the hearts and minds of an insignificant number of PC users.

  42. MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Serious issue here, not just funny. We're running out of addresses. 4.3B with IPv4 vs 340B with IPv6.

    1. Re:MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try 3.40 × 10^38 IPs with IPv6

    2. Re:MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      There are nowhere near 2^32 usable IPv4 addresses, let alone free ones. Apart from the millions reserved in private areas (10./8, 127./8 etc) there's a few hundred million tied up by corporations:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_I P_address_blocks

  43. "OLPC" by thetagger · · Score: 1
    The reason: the emerging markets of countries such as Brazil, China, India or Russia, which will be responsible of 775 million new PCs and laptop computers. Part of them, of course, coming from projects like the OLPC's one.

    Yeah, like .001% of them maybe if you are optimistic?

    If you want to look at the facts rather than the hype, look at the Brazilian government's recent tax breaks on computers and its commitment to making computers as universally owned as televisions and making every school broadband-connected. I am sure there are equivalent reasons in Russia, China and India. Maybe even the falling dollar has something to do with that.

    You can now go worship Negropoente's cute toy.

    1. Re:"OLPC" by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Yeah, like .001% of them maybe if you are optimistic?


      Um, no, predicting that "projects like the OLPC's one" will ship 7,750 computers is not "optimistic". Heck, predicting that OLPC alone will ship less than the

      If you want to look at the facts rather than the hype, look at the Brazilian government's recent tax breaks on computers and its commitment to making computers as universally owned as televisions


      That commitment includes participation in the OLPC project. Perhaps you ought to look at the facts.

  44. Up to this point ... by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

    Everyone just considered PC's a passing fad. Like electrical pet rocks. With a billion of them, pc's might just be here to stay.

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    1. Re:Up to this point ... by cashman73 · · Score: 1
      Everyone just considered PC's a passing fad. Like electrical pet rocks.

      But the guy did make a million dollars! Just wait until I release my big invention,... the, "Jump to Conclusions Mat." You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor, and it would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to. ;-)

    2. Re:Up to this point ... by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Too bad the dude didn't paint the rocks blue and print "System error" on them. Give Gates some competition....

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  45. Inaccurate... by Khyber · · Score: 1

    We already have over 1 billion computers on the face of the planet (working, non-working, and retired.)

    PERSONAL COMPUTERS, on the other hand....

    Well, if two-hundred million geeks alone went through 5 computers, we're already there, yet again! Why wait?

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  46. Beowulf cluster? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you imaging a beowulf cluster of these!

  47. I don't think so. by twitter · · Score: 1

    While it is great that the use of computers is becoming widespread and accessible to nearly all, what is not great is the fact that most of them will run windows.

    They are not going to be buying Dell and other US rip-off brands, they are going to buy direct from the people who make the hardware. The makers are going to ramp up their capacity and sell as cheaply as they can, so long as they are making money. They will continue to do things like this to avoid licensing costs.

    OLPC is not going to run Windows and it's a good example of what the future really will be like. M$ has a hard time porting to more than i386, so they are going to miss out on the platforms everyone else is going to use. Sure, there will still be premium hardware, but it's going to be more diverse and free software is better for it. Most of the world's hardware is going to look like OLPC.

    There's also a language barrier M$ has never really overcome. Free software has already done a good job. As more people get their hands on computers and demand increases for native platforms, the disparity will only increase.

    All of the M$ shortfalls are due to the rigidity of non free software. No one company, no matter how large, can compete with the free world.

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    1. Re:I don't think so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is ridiculous. Why are posts like these allowed to show up in the filtered page view?

      You forgot to add big "I hope" and "Maybe" and "hopefully" to just about every sentence you wrote. You seem completely disconnected from reality.

  48. Quoth Ken Olsen... by jez9999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "there is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home"

  49. Re: Kumpooter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right, as in the Epcot Center anthem from Figment in 1983:

    "And that's why I'm a rooter, for the Kumpooter, everyone needs a friend!"

  50. Re:775? by BobPaul · · Score: 1
    Or you could RTFA instead of assuming.

    At least 775 million new PCs will be in use in those countries by 2015, according to Forrester. It's 775 million, but not until 2015, so the /. summary is just plain horrible.
  51. 1 billion PCs-- the real facts by rocjoe71 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Sold: 1 billion computers:
    • Computers rotting in landfills leeching heavy metal into water table: 400 million.
    • Computers connected to the Internet: 650 million.
    • Computers that have never downloaded spam: 37.
    • Computers without pr0n on them: 5.
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    1. Re:1 billion PCs-- the real facts by AeroIllini · · Score: 1

      Let's see ... 400 million in landfills, 650 million connected to the internet. 1 billion sold.

      Are there 50 million computers in landfills still connected to the internet? Might explain the proliferation of .rm files...

      *rimshot*

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  52. Too many by kackle · · Score: 1

    I don't know why so many when there's only a world market for maybe five computers...

  53. Re:775? by Ucklak · · Score: 1

    I did say assume - on purpose because I didn't RTFA. But on the other hand, 775 million is 77% to 78% of a billion.

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  54. 1 computer for every 6 people? by Zarf · · Score: 1

    IIRC (If I Recall Correctly) that means there is one PC for every six people in the world. So what do people like me who own six computers do to that logic? Am I skewing the numbers or a statistical anomaly?

    But seriously folks...
    If we really do see 200,000 every five years if a large percentage of these developing markets adopt a non-windows OS as their defacto install base it could represent a significant erosion of the Microsoft OS's position world wide. In time that might not affect US software markets but it would radically affect world wide software markets.

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    1. Re:1 computer for every 6 people? by Loke+the+Dog · · Score: 1

      "If we really do see 200,000 every five years if a large percentage of these developing markets adopt a non-windows OS as their defacto install base"

      But why would they want to do that? Warezed windows is free, more widely spread and supports all the games and software most people want. So what if its insecure? No OS is completely safe, and there are ways to get around that.

    2. Re:1 computer for every 6 people? by DogDude · · Score: 1

      If we really do see 200,000 every five years if a large percentage of these developing markets adopt a non-windows OS as their defacto install base it could represent a significant erosion of the Microsoft OS's position world wide.

      Why would "a large percentage of these developing markets adopt a non-windows OS as their defacto install base?" It hasn't happened yet. It hasn't even begun to happen. There's no real reason to think that it will happen any time in the near future.

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    3. Re:1 computer for every 6 people? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      IIRC (If I Recall Correctly) that means there is one PC for every six people in the world. So what do people like me who own six computers do to that logic? Am I skewing the numbers or a statistical anomaly?

      People with 6 computers are likely a statistical anomoly, but people with 2 computers (one company workstation at work, and a personal computer at home) certainly would not be. I wonder if they were properly counted? Even three computers isn't that odd - just throw a laptop (company or personel) into the mix.

    4. Re:1 computer for every 6 people? by endymion.nz · · Score: 1

      Bell curve, Zarf. Zarf, bell curve.

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    5. Re:1 computer for every 6 people? by Zarf · · Score: 1

      What's the availability of Windows in Cantonese? I don't know at all. I also have no idea how to create a desire to install anything other than windows apparently... I'm just an Engineer... not much of a business man. Could cultural pride cause some countries to create their own programming language and operating system or even create their own version of Microsoft to go with it? If they could create an install base similar to that of Microsoft why not try and do it in a market that isn't dominated already?

      I guess I'm saying that if there really is a market for another billion PCs in the world and most of them aren't in America... and most people don't speak English... and by extension most custom software will end up in non-English speaking countries... then why does C,C++,C# still say "if", "for", and "while" why not a Cantonese based programming language? Why not a from the ground up Cantonese Operating System?

      I mean the Moon's been done. Why can't China and India live with hitching a ride on US Space Shuttle missions? Why do they tolerate hitching a ride on Microsoft Windows and not create their own software companies? Is software really that boring?

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  55. Price has a lot to do with it. by Isaac-1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A lot is about the price

    My first PC was over $1,500 with no hard drive and 256K of ram

    My second was a loaded 486-33 with a 212 Meg HD and 8 megs of ram at just under $4,000 ......

    Last year I bought a 2.4 Ghz P4 desktop system (no monitor) from Dell Outlet for under $200 with shipping

    Last month I bought a sub 5 pound used (like new) P3 Compaq Aramada for $130.

    Talk on slashdot keeps revolving around a $99 laptop coming soon.

    Combine the ever dropping price, with 20+ years of production (i386 and newer) of all the hand me down systems out there, and the 1,000,000,000 is inevitable.

    Ike

  56. So much power draw by lonechicken · · Score: 1

    Well, maybe virtualization, NAS devices, and smartphones will offset some of this. Some companies I've been at don't have server rooms filled to the max with actual physical servers, like say 5 years ago. Every task doesn't necessarily need one full computer dedicated to it anymore (not like it's news to anyone here).

  57. Extra Heat by Vexor · · Score: 1

    And the extra heat from Moniters and PCs will melt our polar icecaps with Global Warming 2.0

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  58. Psycological barrier?? by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    WTF? Like the person buying the 1 billionth computer will hem and haw and say "Gee I don't know if I should...I mean this will push us up to 1 billion..."

  59. Re:775? by Tatarize · · Score: 1

    No. It's a psychological barrier. They are going to kill us. The computer power doubles every 18 months the computer number doubles every five years and our intellect increases slowly by pure biological evolution (that's assuming it's even going in that direction). We're doomed!

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  60. What defines a computer by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer: i couldn't get to the story at work.

    What are they calling a 'computer'? If they include embedded devices, im sure we surpassed 1billion long ago. Remember that even a digital watch is technically a computer.

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  61. MOD PARENT STUPID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's 340 billion billion billion billion, not 340 billion.

  62. Re:775? by BobPaul · · Score: 1

    Yeah, except that by 2015 when the developing world makes up 775 million, there will be 2 billion computers in use overall, so it'd be ~38% ;)

  63. It's only a milliard actually by aim2future · · Score: 1
  64. Riaa's report about upcoming on bilionth pc by aXi · · Score: 0

    1.000.000.000 PCs each containing at least $ 10.000.000.000 in copyrighted material.

  65. now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

  66. Re:And my first thought at seeing the title of thi by dpiven · · Score: 1

    "... how much can a poor nation stand?"