That's exactly the case made by some futurists. The most prominent one of whom I am aware is Ray Kurzweil. He has some pretty compelling explanations illustrating exponential trends in just about every facet of the growth of intelligence and technological capacity. I'm probably exaggerating his position a little bit, but he might argue that dreaming of harnessing fusion power by the end of the century is so quaint; by then we'll be closer to harnessing all of the energy that the earth receives from the sun.
You aren't exaggerating Kurzweil's position... he does that himself. I can't wait for Strong AI, but Kurzweil is far too zealous and ruins his own aim.
Let the law pass, then use the law to deny service to the very same lawmakers who voted it in. Shouldn't take long to piss them off.
Why hurt the common man unless we have to when it's the legislators that are being stupid.
I also recommend using the law to hit big corporations in a variety of ways.
Welcome to South Korea, the country that has seen three coup d'etat since 1950 and has been ruled by dictators until 1993. You can argue that their democracy began in 1987, but really... when one of the 1979 coup co-conspiring generals is elected, does that really matter? He led the way for democratic reform, so maybe... But the point is that Korea has really only had "true" democracy for the last 15 years, and there is still a lot of corruption, and brand new major political parties every election. It's still in its infancy.
Now, wait a minute. You were the one comparing things to "a mini-prelude to World War II". And, hell yes, the prelude to World War II involved countries being invaded, occupied and annexed. The "border incidents" back then didn't involve a bunch of people getting killed, they involved whole countries forcefully disappearing off the map and people getting slaughtered in droves.
Now, here's the definition of appeasement, again:
Appeasement is "the policy of settling international quarrels by admitting and satisfying grievances through rational negotiation and compromise, thereby avoiding the resort to an armed conflict which would be expensive, bloody, and possibly dangerous."[1] The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany between 1937 and 1939.
I am not saying we are entering another World War, but rather that we have constantly been appeasing the North Koreans, much in the same way that many appeasements were made to belligerent countries during World War II. I hope that clears it up for you and me both.;)
Appeasement is "the policy of settling international quarrels by admitting and satisfying grievances through rational negotiation and compromise, thereby avoiding the resort to an armed conflict which would be expensive, bloody, and possibly dangerous."[1] The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany between 1937 and 1939.
I don't see anything in there about appeasement having to be an invasion or annexation, do you? What I said is exactly right (at least according to Wikipedia). So now we are talking about WW2-era appeasement because you didn't know the right definition for a word I used... brilliant.;)
You have to have your latitude/longitude VERY exact, even a few kilometers off target will greatly diminish its apparent magnitude. Use Google Earth, and also make sure you are setting the lat/long display to decimal, not hour/min/second.
I like talking about this, so let's rumble. We all know the Korean War officially began in 1950, and unofficially ended in 1953, with only a ceasefire, but no proper "end of the war", etc. I'll only cover the main post-war incidents:
In 1968, the Blue House Raid occurred, in which 31 highly trained North Korean operatives were sent across the DMZ in secret to assassinate Park Jeong-hee, then-President/dictator of South Korea, and nearly succeeded.
One week later in 1968, the signals intelligence ship "USS Pueblo" is captured in international waters, and the crew were held for a year before being released at the JSA. The ship is still held by North Korea and is used as a floating anti-US museum. The ship is also still on the US Navy's register.
In 1974, a North Korean agent attempted to assassinate Park Jeong-hee during a speech, missing the President but fatally wounding his wife by chance (she was in the line of the bullets fired at the President). He continued his speech a few minutes later in the same auditorium, even after his wife was rushed out of the room to the hospital, where she later died. Youtube video of the attempt (the person being carried is his wife).
In 1976, the "Axe Murder Incident" occured in which American soldiers attempting to trim a poplar tree that was blocking line-of-sight to a friendly checkpoint, where numerous attempts by North Korean soldiers stationed at the JSA had been made to kidnap South Korean soldiers. On the day of the Axe Murder Incident, US soldiers began trimming the tree, only to be assaulted by North Korean soldiers carrying blunt weapons. They picked up axes dropped by the trimmers, and went on to kill two US soldiers and wounding eleven other US troops. The US reaction (code-named Operation Paul Bunyan) was very interesting, but you should visit the link above to read about it.
Between 1977 and 1983, the North Korean government orchestrated the abductions of dozens of Japanese citizens semi-randomly for use in educating their agents abroad.
In 1983, North Korea placed three bombs in the ceiling of a Rangoon, Burma mausoleum memorial that South Korean president Jeon Du-hwan was to visit. Due to a mistake in the performance, the music announcing the arrival of the President was initiated a few moments too soon, and the bombs were detonated prematurely. 21 people were killed and twice as many wounded, and amongst the dead were several of the highest-ranking Korean cabinet members. Youtube video of the destructive and bloody aftermath.
In 1987, two North Korean agents planted a time bomb in Korean Air Flight 858, which exploded in mid-air, killing 115 people. Both agents were arrested for use of fake passports, and both bit down on cyanide capsules hidden in cigarettes. One of the agents survived, and said that the attack was undertaken to destabilize the South Korean government, disrupt upcoming elections, and to frighten the world-wide community before the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul.
For many, many more smaller-scale skirmishes, read the Wikipedia article "List of border incidents involving North Korea", and don't forget every nation of the world's policy of appeasement towards North Korea for the past two decades, totaling billions of cash dollars, unlimited fre
The recent three decades of Korean history reads like a mini-prelude to World War II. Appeasement, appeasement, appeasement an infuriating number of times. The only reason we don't take them down is because they are holding Seoul hostage with a frightening amount of long-range artillery, like a small-scale MAD scenario.
Insightful, if you're an idiot. How about we look at Vietnam or Korea or many Arab nations or maybe even the cold war and now the war on terror.
Somebody else replied to your other points, and while I don't know if their reply was warranted, by your inclusion of the Korean War in this list your entire post is suspect, and I think you really need to go read a history book. If you're not going to take your time to learn about a topic before talking about it, then I'm not going to take my time to teach you about it. Go google and learn something. Sorry I'm not being nice about it.:/
North Korea's nuclear status is not confirmed. It will take a lot to convince me that the ~500-ton underground explosion was a result of nuclear fission.
The customer service is lacking in many ways, and you are not wrong about that. However, what is your wife doing signing up for extra credit cards, especially if they only start out with a limit of $400? I assume that you have a longer-running credit card that has a far greater limit.
I'm 23 and not married, so I am asking for your side of the story because I am curious for my own future's sake... I'm not trying to put you on the spot!
I use my one credit card for everything, and I pay it off in full at least once a month. The limit is either ten or twenty thousand. I have paid less than $100 interest in the entire four years I've owned it.
It's free, just the same way broadcast TV is free: with paid advertisements. It's a great business model, because it gets me plenty of content without having to pay hard cash at the time of viewing. However, I don't want to have advertisements on all my content. Sometimes I just want to enjoy it without interruptions, and I'm willing to pay for it (like music, although it's much easier to download for free and far cheaper this way).
Aka, sure, the Nazis were bad, but logically there should be some middle ground.
You are really off base, and I'm not going to be nice about it. JRGhaddar's main point was that if people cannot be compensated for the time and resources put into producing music, software, movies, etc. then there will be a drastic decline in their production and quality.
This has nothing to do with Jews being genocidally exterminated by the Nazis. When muuh-gnu (your great-great-great grandparent) brought up the subject of Nazis, it was to provide a thoughtful point against somebody who said, in general, not to mod down an idea just because you didn't agree with it. He never tried to equate copyright protections with Nazi Germany.
I doubt anybody would argue that we would have the same amazing creative projects* undertaken if everybody had to do them for almost free. That's a silly argument to make, and your parent says it is silly, too.
* This is not a chance to tell us what you think about the quality of today's music, movies, etc. Please stay on topic.;)
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I don't have a microwave, but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks stuff. ~M.H.
That's right. And according to the frame of reference of the traveler, it doesn't take four years to cover four light-years of distance. The traveler could, say, make the distance to Proxima Centauri in just a month by his watch. Some (other) people don't know this.
Just hang an apple by a thread and use the force applied by gravity on the apple
I replied to a previous post of yours, but it looks like you need basic Physics help. Here's a starter. Haven't you ever wondered why we can't design a hydroelectric dam that doesn't have to have water leave the lower altitude end?
We have measured the Casimir effect, and we know why it occurs. Your post is very uninformed. I would link like I always do, but it's simply too easy for your to google the wiki page so you can learn about all sorts of things. For example, the Casimir effect doesn't happen at "infinitely small distances", but rather at many times the radius of a typical atom. At 10nm (100 times the radius of a typical atom), the Casimir force is so unmicroscopic as to be equal to one atmosphere of pressure.
It's not really an improper conclusion. Show me one non-theist that believes prostitution is improper, and I'll show you a closet theist.
Only those who believe in some imaginary divine morality have an issue with folks selling sexual services.
Who gave this genius a mod point? Having morals doesn't mean you're a theist. You may as well take it as far as "show me one non-theist that believes murder is improper, and I'll show you a closet theist."
You're saying that since the universe is made up of quarks and leptons there is no fundamental rule that makes murder "wrong". While I'm willing to bet that's true, just because I hold the personal belief that murder is wrong doesn't mean I drew that conclusion based on what a bible says.
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That's exactly the case made by some futurists. The most prominent one of whom I am aware is Ray Kurzweil. He has some pretty compelling explanations illustrating exponential trends in just about every facet of the growth of intelligence and technological capacity. I'm probably exaggerating his position a little bit, but he might argue that dreaming of harnessing fusion power by the end of the century is so quaint; by then we'll be closer to harnessing all of the energy that the earth receives from the sun.
You aren't exaggerating Kurzweil's position... he does that himself. I can't wait for Strong AI, but Kurzweil is far too zealous and ruins his own aim.
Why random people?
Let the law pass, then use the law to deny service to the very same lawmakers who voted it in. Shouldn't take long to piss them off.
Why hurt the common man unless we have to when it's the legislators that are being stupid.
I also recommend using the law to hit big corporations in a variety of ways.
Welcome to South Korea, the country that has seen three coup d'etat since 1950 and has been ruled by dictators until 1993. You can argue that their democracy began in 1987, but really... when one of the 1979 coup co-conspiring generals is elected, does that really matter? He led the way for democratic reform, so maybe... But the point is that Korea has really only had "true" democracy for the last 15 years, and there is still a lot of corruption, and brand new major political parties every election. It's still in its infancy.
The Russians operated several military space stations. One of them even test fired a large-caliber cannon in space at another satellite.
Are you suggesting we try to impregnate coat hangers?
Sorry, just couldn't resist.
You don't have to apologize, you're a dry cleaner, and it's 3am. It would be ridiculous for me to expect you to be open.
Now, wait a minute. You were the one comparing things to "a mini-prelude to World War II". And, hell yes, the prelude to World War II involved countries being invaded, occupied and annexed. The "border incidents" back then didn't involve a bunch of people getting killed, they involved whole countries forcefully disappearing off the map and people getting slaughtered in droves.
Now, here's the definition of appeasement, again:
Appeasement is "the policy of settling international quarrels by admitting and satisfying grievances through rational negotiation and compromise, thereby avoiding the resort to an armed conflict which would be expensive, bloody, and possibly dangerous."[1] The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany between 1937 and 1939.
I am not saying we are entering another World War, but rather that we have constantly been appeasing the North Koreans, much in the same way that many appeasements were made to belligerent countries during World War II. I hope that clears it up for you and me both. ;)
That stuff looks bad when you write it all down like that, but I'd rather look at Kim Jong Il as just somebody very ronery.
You mean Kim Il-sung, because all the events I quoted happened during his presidency of North Korea.
No seriously, if the U.S. and S. Korea were just nicer to the North none of this would've happened.
Okay.
Also, in before "woosh".
Appeasement is "the policy of settling international quarrels by admitting and satisfying grievances through rational negotiation and compromise, thereby avoiding the resort to an armed conflict which would be expensive, bloody, and possibly dangerous."[1] The term is most often applied to the foreign policy of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany between 1937 and 1939.
I don't see anything in there about appeasement having to be an invasion or annexation, do you? What I said is exactly right (at least according to Wikipedia). So now we are talking about WW2-era appeasement because you didn't know the right definition for a word I used... brilliant. ;)
You have to have your latitude/longitude VERY exact, even a few kilometers off target will greatly diminish its apparent magnitude. Use Google Earth, and also make sure you are setting the lat/long display to decimal, not hour/min/second.
I like talking about this, so let's rumble. We all know the Korean War officially began in 1950, and unofficially ended in 1953, with only a ceasefire, but no proper "end of the war", etc. I'll only cover the main post-war incidents:
In 1968, the Blue House Raid occurred, in which 31 highly trained North Korean operatives were sent across the DMZ in secret to assassinate Park Jeong-hee, then-President/dictator of South Korea, and nearly succeeded.
One week later in 1968, the signals intelligence ship "USS Pueblo" is captured in international waters, and the crew were held for a year before being released at the JSA. The ship is still held by North Korea and is used as a floating anti-US museum. The ship is also still on the US Navy's register.
In 1974, a North Korean agent attempted to assassinate Park Jeong-hee during a speech, missing the President but fatally wounding his wife by chance (she was in the line of the bullets fired at the President). He continued his speech a few minutes later in the same auditorium, even after his wife was rushed out of the room to the hospital, where she later died. Youtube video of the attempt (the person being carried is his wife).
In 1976, the "Axe Murder Incident" occured in which American soldiers attempting to trim a poplar tree that was blocking line-of-sight to a friendly checkpoint, where numerous attempts by North Korean soldiers stationed at the JSA had been made to kidnap South Korean soldiers. On the day of the Axe Murder Incident, US soldiers began trimming the tree, only to be assaulted by North Korean soldiers carrying blunt weapons. They picked up axes dropped by the trimmers, and went on to kill two US soldiers and wounding eleven other US troops. The US reaction (code-named Operation Paul Bunyan) was very interesting, but you should visit the link above to read about it.
Between 1977 and 1983, the North Korean government orchestrated the abductions of dozens of Japanese citizens semi-randomly for use in educating their agents abroad.
In 1983, North Korea placed three bombs in the ceiling of a Rangoon, Burma mausoleum memorial that South Korean president Jeon Du-hwan was to visit. Due to a mistake in the performance, the music announcing the arrival of the President was initiated a few moments too soon, and the bombs were detonated prematurely. 21 people were killed and twice as many wounded, and amongst the dead were several of the highest-ranking Korean cabinet members. Youtube video of the destructive and bloody aftermath.
In 1987, two North Korean agents planted a time bomb in Korean Air Flight 858, which exploded in mid-air, killing 115 people. Both agents were arrested for use of fake passports, and both bit down on cyanide capsules hidden in cigarettes. One of the agents survived, and said that the attack was undertaken to destabilize the South Korean government, disrupt upcoming elections, and to frighten the world-wide community before the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul.
For many, many more smaller-scale skirmishes, read the Wikipedia article "List of border incidents involving North Korea", and don't forget every nation of the world's policy of appeasement towards North Korea for the past two decades, totaling billions of cash dollars, unlimited fre
The recent three decades of Korean history reads like a mini-prelude to World War II. Appeasement, appeasement, appeasement an infuriating number of times. The only reason we don't take them down is because they are holding Seoul hostage with a frightening amount of long-range artillery, like a small-scale MAD scenario.
Insightful, if you're an idiot. How about we look at Vietnam or Korea or many Arab nations or maybe even the cold war and now the war on terror.
Somebody else replied to your other points, and while I don't know if their reply was warranted, by your inclusion of the Korean War in this list your entire post is suspect, and I think you really need to go read a history book. If you're not going to take your time to learn about a topic before talking about it, then I'm not going to take my time to teach you about it. Go google and learn something. Sorry I'm not being nice about it. :/
Politicians come from regular public. Garbage in, garbage out. (who said that?)
You just did. :/
North Korea's nuclear status is not confirmed. It will take a lot to convince me that the ~500-ton underground explosion was a result of nuclear fission.
What the funding should go towards is creating weapons that do effectively just as much damage without the radiation fallout.
We have those weapons. They're called nuclear bombs, and they don't all have to be dirty. In fact, most aren't "all that bad".
Ah, thanks for the note, and I'm sorry about your earlier troubles above.
The customer service is lacking in many ways, and you are not wrong about that. However, what is your wife doing signing up for extra credit cards, especially if they only start out with a limit of $400? I assume that you have a longer-running credit card that has a far greater limit.
I'm 23 and not married, so I am asking for your side of the story because I am curious for my own future's sake... I'm not trying to put you on the spot!
I use my one credit card for everything, and I pay it off in full at least once a month. The limit is either ten or twenty thousand. I have paid less than $100 interest in the entire four years I've owned it.
It's free, just the same way broadcast TV is free: with paid advertisements. It's a great business model, because it gets me plenty of content without having to pay hard cash at the time of viewing. However, I don't want to have advertisements on all my content. Sometimes I just want to enjoy it without interruptions, and I'm willing to pay for it (like music, although it's much easier to download for free and far cheaper this way).
Aka, sure, the Nazis were bad, but logically there should be some middle ground.
You are really off base, and I'm not going to be nice about it. JRGhaddar's main point was that if people cannot be compensated for the time and resources put into producing music, software, movies, etc. then there will be a drastic decline in their production and quality.
;)
This has nothing to do with Jews being genocidally exterminated by the Nazis. When muuh-gnu (your great-great-great grandparent) brought up the subject of Nazis, it was to provide a thoughtful point against somebody who said, in general, not to mod down an idea just because you didn't agree with it. He never tried to equate copyright protections with Nazi Germany.
I doubt anybody would argue that we would have the same amazing creative projects* undertaken if everybody had to do them for almost free. That's a silly argument to make, and your parent says it is silly, too.
* This is not a chance to tell us what you think about the quality of today's music, movies, etc. Please stay on topic.
I don't have a microwave, but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks stuff. ~M.H.
That's right. And according to the frame of reference of the traveler, it doesn't take four years to cover four light-years of distance. The traveler could, say, make the distance to Proxima Centauri in just a month by his watch. Some (other) people don't know this.
Just hang an apple by a thread and use the force applied by gravity on the apple
I replied to a previous post of yours, but it looks like you need basic Physics help. Here's a starter. Haven't you ever wondered why we can't design a hydroelectric dam that doesn't have to have water leave the lower altitude end?
We have measured the Casimir effect, and we know why it occurs. Your post is very uninformed. I would link like I always do, but it's simply too easy for your to google the wiki page so you can learn about all sorts of things. For example, the Casimir effect doesn't happen at "infinitely small distances", but rather at many times the radius of a typical atom. At 10nm (100 times the radius of a typical atom), the Casimir force is so unmicroscopic as to be equal to one atmosphere of pressure.
If it's not, then string theory is wrong.
It's not really an improper conclusion. Show me one non-theist that believes prostitution is improper, and I'll show you a closet theist.
Only those who believe in some imaginary divine morality have an issue with folks selling sexual services.
Who gave this genius a mod point? Having morals doesn't mean you're a theist. You may as well take it as far as "show me one non-theist that believes murder is improper, and I'll show you a closet theist."
You're saying that since the universe is made up of quarks and leptons there is no fundamental rule that makes murder "wrong". While I'm willing to bet that's true, just because I hold the personal belief that murder is wrong doesn't mean I drew that conclusion based on what a bible says.