When viewed from Europe and Australia, the Milky Way has only nougat at the center. When viewed from the US, it has nougat and caramel. Discuss.
Have you ever tried eating asian snacks, like those of Japan or Korea? They are bland and devoid of tasty sugar, while Japanese and Korean folk say that American snacks are far too sweet.:)
You mean "a radius of less than 3km or 9mm, respectively," don't you? As long as the event horizon is outside of the object's physical radius, the object will not be observable, is what I've been led to understand.
I like to consider the radius of a black hole to be exactly equal to its event horizon. Don't you?;)
The concept of white holes is not new. As far as black holes are concerned, they are naturally dense and occupy very little space with no foray into a "much higher dimension" needed. From the event horizon article on wikipedia:
For the mass of the Sun the event horizon is approximately 3 km, and for that of the Earth about 9 mm.
That means the entire mass of the sun or the earth, if compressed down into a black hole, would have a radius of 3km or 9mm, respectively. The rest of your post is very silly and doesn't seem to be based on any facts or reputable research/researchers.:(
Mythbusters Announcer: "Let's revisit the slow-mo cam to see if the ten pounds of C4 underneath the sheet of paper actually started it on fire, or just blew it apart."
yeah but lots of us were there when it was a private blah de blah de blah"
"Eldest, that's what I am... Enry remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside."
We actually do have "thousands" of "ten warhead" MIRV missiles.
Having the capability to outfit current missiles with more MIRVs does NOT mean we have thousands of ten warhead MIRV missile. These changes cannot be made overnight.
it appears that the image of the 1970s LP cover art of the Scorpions' 'Virgin Killer' album has been blocked because it was judged to be 'child pornography,'
Actually, reading the wikipedia article on Virgin Killer, it seems that it is bonafide child pornography. Or, regardless of your definition of "pornography", there's a naked, under-age* girl on the cover.
*Not all countries have the same under-age pornography laws
America's top spy agency has taken over the former Sony microchip plant and is transforming it into a new data-mining headquarters
Sorry in advance, but I went ahead and read (some of) the article. Anyway, I'm having trouble believing for sure that this facility is a datacenter. Considering it's located at the site of a previous chip fab, it makes sense to me that it would stay a chip fab.
The only source that says this will be used for datamining isn't even the article author, but rather the author of a book who hasn't worked for the NSA for 25 years. These are quotes from this book:
No longer able to store all the intercepted phone calls and e-mail in its secret city, the agency has now built a new data warehouse in San Antonio, Texas," writes author James Bamford in the Shadow Factory, his third book about the NSA. "Costing, with renovations, upwards of $130 million, the 470,000-square-foot facility will be almost the size of the Alamodome. Considering how much data can now be squeezed onto a small flash drive, the new NSA building may eventually be able to hold all the information in the world."
So just what will be going on inside the NSA's new San Antonio facility? Bamford describes former NSA Director Mike Hayden's goals for the data-mining center as knowing "exactly what Americans were doing day by day, hour by hour, and second by second. He wanted to know where they shopped, what they bought, what movies they saw, what books they read, the toll booths they went through, the plane tickets they purchased, the hotels they stayed in... In other words, Total Information Awareness, the same Orwellian concept...
The new NSA facility is just a few miles from Microsoft's data center of the same size. Bamford says that under current law, NSA could gain access to Microsoft's stored data without even a warrant, but merely a fiber-optic cable.
What the Microsoft people will have will be just storage of a lot of the email that is being sent. They keep this email -- I don't know why -- and there should be some legislation saying how long it should be kept," said Bamford in a phone interview last week. "The post office doesn't keep copies of our letters when we mail letters; why should the telecom companies or the internet providers keep copies of our email? It doesn't make sense to me.
That's a big wall of quotes. The author of the book knew what he was talking about when he wrote his first book back in 1982, which was the first book revealing the existence of the NSA. Over the years he's written a lot of articles and books about the necessity of oversight, which is very, very good, but based on some excerpts of his book, I'm not convinced that he exactly understands the some of the issues he talks about nowadays, and I'm not convinced that this is a datacenter or a datacenter for datamining.
Note that my post is not talking about whether the NSA is actually data-mining or not, or whether it's warranted or not... it's just a post about the supposed purpose of this particular Texas facility.
It's not as effective as that. It's more like locking your garden gate, or (yes! a car analogy!) locking an open-top car.
would make people pretty nervous actually, because it effectively says "I can attack you with impunity".
Not to pick nits, but you contradict yourself here, in a similar way that conspiracists think the government is slick enough to pull off a 50,000-person conspiracy yet incompetent enough to leave clues in photographs.
As far as the first quote goes, I never said our current implementation was "an effective missile shield". I was talking about a hypothetical case where an effective missile shield exists. The second quote above says the same thing that I said in the first sentence, namely that it's destabilizing to MAD. However, being able to shoot down a small number of missiles from a belligerent state is a capability that I believe all nations should have.
No, North Korea conducts their own missile development, and probably with little involvement from the Chinese. North Korea likely exchanges technology with a small number of mostly Middle-Eastern states, such as Syria, Iran, and former Iraq.
it is a system to fend of retaliatory attacks from nations who are experiencing US military aggression already
True! The so-called "missile defense" system is in fact aggressive rather than defensive in posture. It is the shield you need to have in one hand while you club somebody with a weapon held in the other hand. It's useless to ward off attack from a strong enemy (unless you have launched a devastating surprise attack against them already), and it's useless against an sneak attack even from a weak enemy. Frankly the idea that Iran, DPRK, Venezuela, etc, would attack the US with ICBMs is simply ludicrous.
Your idea is not a new one. While an effective missile shield is rather destabilizing to MAD, it's much like locking your house when you leave to protect against thieves, and I doubt you consider that to be an aggressive posture. Potentially defending yourself from small-scale ICBM attacks or thievery may not necessarily be worth a 100-billion-dollar lock, but I'm only talking about the merits of the system in this comment, and I think your post is a little off.
Here's a point for a similar discussion: Why do a large portion of the population see an explosion and think, "Wow..."? I'm trying to figure out why that is. I also think the same thing, and it feels like a low-level, "fundamental" kind of thought. It's not my brain saying "oh my god, think about the technology and the increasing advancement of humanity, etc." Rather, it's just my brain seeing a neat explosion and saying "wow".
I would guess that the U.S. government has better intelligence than you and I do.
I suppose that is a crazy assumption to make, but so is assuming that North Korea has assume tech that the U.S. government doesn't know about.
That's not what Kadin2048 was saying at all. He was saying the North Korea has tech that the grandparent apparently didn't know existed.
As Kadin2048 said, North Korea has very impressive missiles development programs. Not only impressive considering their economy is borked, but because they are also a rather effective weapon. North Korea sells its designs to other countries, and that's not any secret info. It's one of the ways they make money aside from counterfeiting world currencies, smuggling drugs in diplomatic bags, and wriggling out deals like unlimited oil, unlimited electricity, and huge cash lump sums from South Korea and other nations such as the US.
And as far as "reunification issues" goes, below is is what I am referring to. If you also read the wiki page, there are a number of other issues that make reunificiation difficult.
In relative terms, North Korea's economy currently is far worse than that of East Germany was in 1990. The income per capita ratio (PPP) was about 3:1 in Germany (about US$25,000 for West, about US$8,500 for East). The ratio is about 13:1 in Korea (over US$24,200 for South, US$1,800 for North, CIA Factbook 2006), although GDP estimates vary widely. This income gap is rapidly increasing as the North Korean economy stagnates and the South Korean economy is characterized by moderate to high economic growth.
We're already in a MAD situation with NK, and we have been ever since we SK and the US gained a clear economic and military foothold over NK.
Nuclear weapons are not needed for the pseudo-MAD situation that exists on the Korean peninsula. North Korea will devastate Seoul (capitol of the 13th largest economy in the world, and where 20% of the South Korean population lives) using long-range artillery, mounted on railroad tracks and easily able to slide back into mountain caves. Even though the US likely has most artillery positions mapped out, I don't think anybody is convinced that it could effectively disable a majority of them before Seoul takes unacceptable destruction.
The other side of the MAD coin is that North Korea cannot expect to win a war with the US. Back in 1950-1953, with Soviet and eventually enormous Chinese backing, North Korea was able to restore the border to approximately its former position, and the DMZ was established. However, the status quo has changed greatly in the last 55 years, and North Korea cannot possibly hope to succeed in any war in the peninsula. And likewise, the US can't afford any war there either, or risk borking the world's economy through Seoul's devastation, and the subsequent reunification issues.
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Or a remarkably intermediate period.
When viewed from Europe and Australia, the Milky Way has only nougat at the center. When viewed from the US, it has nougat and caramel. Discuss.
Have you ever tried eating asian snacks, like those of Japan or Korea? They are bland and devoid of tasty sugar, while Japanese and Korean folk say that American snacks are far too sweet. :)
A 6 Digit /. ID trashing a 3 Digit ID. For goodness sake man where are your manners ?
I actually thought about this and made my reply nicer. Heheh...
You mean "a radius of less than 3km or 9mm, respectively," don't you? As long as the event horizon is outside of the object's physical radius, the object will not be observable, is what I've been led to understand.
I like to consider the radius of a black hole to be exactly equal to its event horizon. Don't you? ;)
For the mass of the Sun the event horizon is approximately 3 km, and for that of the Earth about 9 mm.
That means the entire mass of the sun or the earth, if compressed down into a black hole, would have a radius of 3km or 9mm, respectively. The rest of your post is very silly and doesn't seem to be based on any facts or reputable research/researchers. :(
Mythbusters Announcer: "Let's revisit the slow-mo cam to see if the ten pounds of C4 underneath the sheet of paper actually started it on fire, or just blew it apart."
yeah but lots of us were there when it was a private blah de blah de blah"
"Eldest, that's what I am... Enry remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn... he knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside."
Shatner on? Why. That does. Sound Awful...
Okay, sounds good to me. :)
We actually do have "thousands" of "ten warhead" MIRV missiles.
Having the capability to outfit current missiles with more MIRVs does NOT mean we have thousands of ten warhead MIRV missile. These changes cannot be made overnight.
Are you crazy? You could die or be seriously disabled by imbibing something that potent.
Most of the solutions sold in health stores is 3 to 5 ppm, which is too weak to do much good. You need about 16 ppm or more.
Dangit man, you're screwing up my homeopathy business! It's less that means more, not more means more!
it appears that the image of the 1970s LP cover art of the Scorpions' 'Virgin Killer' album has been blocked because it was judged to be 'child pornography,'
Actually, reading the wikipedia article on Virgin Killer, it seems that it is bonafide child pornography. Or, regardless of your definition of "pornography", there's a naked, under-age* girl on the cover.
*Not all countries have the same under-age pornography laws
America's top spy agency has taken over the former Sony microchip plant and is transforming it into a new data-mining headquarters
Sorry in advance, but I went ahead and read (some of) the article. Anyway, I'm having trouble believing for sure that this facility is a datacenter. Considering it's located at the site of a previous chip fab, it makes sense to me that it would stay a chip fab.
The only source that says this will be used for datamining isn't even the article author, but rather the author of a book who hasn't worked for the NSA for 25 years. These are quotes from this book:
No longer able to store all the intercepted phone calls and e-mail in its secret city, the agency has now built a new data warehouse in San Antonio, Texas," writes author James Bamford in the Shadow Factory, his third book about the NSA. "Costing, with renovations, upwards of $130 million, the 470,000-square-foot facility will be almost the size of the Alamodome. Considering how much data can now be squeezed onto a small flash drive, the new NSA building may eventually be able to hold all the information in the world."
So just what will be going on inside the NSA's new San Antonio facility? Bamford describes former NSA Director Mike Hayden's goals for the data-mining center as knowing "exactly what Americans were doing day by day, hour by hour, and second by second. He wanted to know where they shopped, what they bought, what movies they saw, what books they read, the toll booths they went through, the plane tickets they purchased, the hotels they stayed in... In other words, Total Information Awareness, the same Orwellian concept ...
The new NSA facility is just a few miles from Microsoft's data center of the same size. Bamford says that under current law, NSA could gain access to Microsoft's stored data without even a warrant, but merely a fiber-optic cable.
What the Microsoft people will have will be just storage of a lot of the email that is being sent. They keep this email -- I don't know why -- and there should be some legislation saying how long it should be kept," said Bamford in a phone interview last week. "The post office doesn't keep copies of our letters when we mail letters; why should the telecom companies or the internet providers keep copies of our email? It doesn't make sense to me.
That's a big wall of quotes. The author of the book knew what he was talking about when he wrote his first book back in 1982, which was the first book revealing the existence of the NSA. Over the years he's written a lot of articles and books about the necessity of oversight, which is very, very good, but based on some excerpts of his book, I'm not convinced that he exactly understands the some of the issues he talks about nowadays, and I'm not convinced that this is a datacenter or a datacenter for datamining.
Note that my post is not talking about whether the NSA is actually data-mining or not, or whether it's warranted or not... it's just a post about the supposed purpose of this particular Texas facility.
That's the one. ;)
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Speaking of Oppenheim, if you've got a problem... there's only one way to be sure. ;)
Even better, thanks. Mods should spread the karma around to parent, too :)
It's not as effective as that. It's more like locking your garden gate, or (yes! a car analogy!) locking an open-top car.
would make people pretty nervous actually, because it effectively says "I can attack you with impunity".
Not to pick nits, but you contradict yourself here, in a similar way that conspiracists think the government is slick enough to pull off a 50,000-person conspiracy yet incompetent enough to leave clues in photographs.
As far as the first quote goes, I never said our current implementation was "an effective missile shield". I was talking about a hypothetical case where an effective missile shield exists. The second quote above says the same thing that I said in the first sentence, namely that it's destabilizing to MAD. However, being able to shoot down a small number of missiles from a belligerent state is a capability that I believe all nations should have.
If it helps the species survive the current pressures, the trait remains.
Oops! You mean, "If it doesn't hurt the species' survival under the current pressures, the trait remains."
No, North Korea conducts their own missile development, and probably with little involvement from the Chinese. North Korea likely exchanges technology with a small number of mostly Middle-Eastern states, such as Syria, Iran, and former Iraq.
True! The so-called "missile defense" system is in fact aggressive rather than defensive in posture. It is the shield you need to have in one hand while you club somebody with a weapon held in the other hand. It's useless to ward off attack from a strong enemy (unless you have launched a devastating surprise attack against them already), and it's useless against an sneak attack even from a weak enemy. Frankly the idea that Iran, DPRK, Venezuela, etc, would attack the US with ICBMs is simply ludicrous.
Your idea is not a new one. While an effective missile shield is rather destabilizing to MAD, it's much like locking your house when you leave to protect against thieves, and I doubt you consider that to be an aggressive posture. Potentially defending yourself from small-scale ICBM attacks or thievery may not necessarily be worth a 100-billion-dollar lock, but I'm only talking about the merits of the system in this comment, and I think your post is a little off.
I am a pacifist but i love military tech.
Here's a point for a similar discussion: Why do a large portion of the population see an explosion and think, "Wow..."? I'm trying to figure out why that is. I also think the same thing, and it feels like a low-level, "fundamental" kind of thought. It's not my brain saying "oh my god, think about the technology and the increasing advancement of humanity, etc." Rather, it's just my brain seeing a neat explosion and saying "wow".
;)
Any thoughts?
I would guess that the U.S. government has better intelligence than you and I do.
I suppose that is a crazy assumption to make, but so is assuming that North Korea has assume tech that the U.S. government doesn't know about.
That's not what Kadin2048 was saying at all. He was saying the North Korea has tech that the grandparent apparently didn't know existed.
As Kadin2048 said, North Korea has very impressive missiles development programs. Not only impressive considering their economy is borked, but because they are also a rather effective weapon. North Korea sells its designs to other countries, and that's not any secret info. It's one of the ways they make money aside from counterfeiting world currencies, smuggling drugs in diplomatic bags, and wriggling out deals like unlimited oil, unlimited electricity, and huge cash lump sums from South Korea and other nations such as the US.
From wikipedia's Korean Reunification page:
In relative terms, North Korea's economy currently is far worse than that of East Germany was in 1990. The income per capita ratio (PPP) was about 3:1 in Germany (about US$25,000 for West, about US$8,500 for East). The ratio is about 13:1 in Korea (over US$24,200 for South, US$1,800 for North, CIA Factbook 2006), although GDP estimates vary widely. This income gap is rapidly increasing as the North Korean economy stagnates and the South Korean economy is characterized by moderate to high economic growth.
We're already in a MAD situation with NK, and we have been ever since we SK and the US gained a clear economic and military foothold over NK.
Nuclear weapons are not needed for the pseudo-MAD situation that exists on the Korean peninsula. North Korea will devastate Seoul (capitol of the 13th largest economy in the world, and where 20% of the South Korean population lives) using long-range artillery, mounted on railroad tracks and easily able to slide back into mountain caves. Even though the US likely has most artillery positions mapped out, I don't think anybody is convinced that it could effectively disable a majority of them before Seoul takes unacceptable destruction.
The other side of the MAD coin is that North Korea cannot expect to win a war with the US. Back in 1950-1953, with Soviet and eventually enormous Chinese backing, North Korea was able to restore the border to approximately its former position, and the DMZ was established. However, the status quo has changed greatly in the last 55 years, and North Korea cannot possibly hope to succeed in any war in the peninsula. And likewise, the US can't afford any war there either, or risk borking the world's economy through Seoul's devastation, and the subsequent reunification issues.