Actually, I think you're partly right-- it's a matter of ignorance. However, I doubt it will be fixed.
In fact, although some would say this is a violation of an obscure, subtle, lesser known rule of the net... I would say that this is an example of how the GOP don't know or care to really know the culture and rules and how things work on the Net.
Umm... not sure if you guys have been reading Slashdot for long, but the 'founders' of Slashdot don't do much in the way of digging up stories. The readers do. Thus, the readers are, by definition of the site, ahead of the founders.
And yeah, sure, this particular story was mentioned in a message somewhere, but it seems big enough to warrant a post and a link to a news story about it.
Yeah, but it's Nintendo's concept, franchise, and brand, and I'll bet you that they make most of the money from it. All the other games, cartoons, and merchandise are all just self-perpetuating sales around that product, which centers around the slogan:
"Gotta catch 'em all!"
WoTC didn't start the fire.
But then again, I don't think there is a fire after all. Just a genius marketing blitz parents should be steering their kids away from.
Children should be responsible, to the extent that they are able. But I recognize that, at certain stages of development children are not quite yet mature enough to handle it.
In that case, the PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Read the story, which mentions the kids are around 9 years old. Where in the hell do kids get the "thousands of dollars" they were "forced" to spend? The story says they "emptied their piggy banks" but I think that's just a euphemism-- given child labor laws, I doubt these piggy banks could have contained much, and thus I bet their money came from adults.
So, why weren't the parents saying no? If the kids were turned into gambling addicts, its the parents who did it. The money burning characteristics of collectable card games notwithstanding, no one FORCES one to buy them.
And no one certainly forced the parents to allow their children so much money to do so!
Am I the only one that thinks emailing out unsolicited passwords in plain text is a bad idea in the first place?
Man! Is this one of my biggest pet peeves! I can kinda understand it for a service that generates a password for me-- I need to log in real quick and change it. It's basically a one time password.
But when I sign up, and PROVIDE a password, and STILL the service sends me an insecure e-mail with the password I JUST PICKED, it really pisses me off!
Even worse, there was a site (I forget which one now) that I hadn't visited in awhile. So, I get spam from them saying, "Hi we haven't seen you around in awhile, in case you forgot, here's your username and password!"
It's true in their original form they were insults, but as with many subcultures and groups, they sometimes take the terms intended as derogatory and recast them into proud positives. They're still used as insults, but I think as we geeks and nerds get power, WE'RE redefining the words.
Just curious, but did you get this? I know for awhile, Lost Treasures of Infocom I and II were in their catalog online, but they'd sold out of stock a year or two ago. And between those two collections, you had EVERY SINGLE Infocom game. More than the Classic Text Adventure Masterpieces.
My one HUGE gripe with Mandrake so far, after having installed it on two computers... is that they completely screw with the locations where the standard RPM dstributions of files install things.
Namely: KDE. Under my Red Hat system, KDE usually goes in/opt/kde, and the RPM's I get from www.kde.org go in/opt/kde.
But, maybe following a system path purist regime or something, the Mandrake people have put KDE in the 'proper' paths. (i.e./usr/share/.../usr/bin...) and so the RPM's from www.kde.org won't work for an upgrade.
To further Flash as a Web standard, Macromedia has undertaken many initiatives, including opening the Flash file format, releasing the Flash Player code for free licensing, and allowing redistribution of the Flash Player.
So there. It's not Open Source in and of itself, but it exposes the standard for Open Source to be created around it.
Maybe I'm just a conspiracy minded freak, but since the X10 Firecracker giveaway a while ago, X10 went from almost 0 presence in my everyday haunts to almost weekly presence. Is it just coincidence, or has X10's advertising department or PR firm just spend a BUTTLOAD of money getting the word out? The weird thing is, they all seem to come up as stories on "legit" sites but read like press releases rather than reporting. For example, recent links & stories:
Of course, I'm already an advertising casualty because I ordered the Firecracker kit, and then after playing with it ordered US$50 more in stuff. And no, I'm seriously looking at the little camera and radio video transmitter they have for my apartment's web cam.
But don't be like me! This is a warning beacon! Stay back! *BEEP* *BEEP* This meme is under quaranteen! *BEEP* *BEEP* Danger Will Robinson!
1) Have you been programming for more than a few years?
2) You've programmed, but have you ever really designed and implemented software?
3) Have you ever had to work on a team?
4) Have you ever had to work on something someone else worked on over a year ago-- or better yet, something you did a year ago?
I'm assuming your answer to all of these is no, or maybe the answer to this question:
5) Are you insane, a masochist, or both?
...is yes.
If you would have LISTENED in some of those classes, if they were anything like mine, you might have heard somewhere along the line that 80% of the software dev cycle is MAINTENANCE.
That's important in at least 2 ways:
A) If you have a battle plan laid out before you even start laying down a single byte of code, it's much more likely that later, you won't have as many issues to resolve because you thought about it and kept yourself from screwing it up.
B) You don't remember as much as you think. You will look at things you've written not more than 6 months ago and not remember a damn thing about what you were thinking. Let alone trying to divine what someone else was thinking if you're inheriting someone else's work.
So even when I'm just 'coding for myself', I still load my code with comments and at least write a readme in the header of the program or in a text file somewhere.
Please, please, please... do us all a favor-- don't go work for Microsoft, go back your classes and LISTEN for goodness sake.
Let me differ. Ssh is a pain in the butt to install. I have tried this one and gave up. Laugh however you want about point-and-drool types, I just don't want to spend a week setting up ssh. It just isn't worth the effort presently.
Whatwhatwhat?
I'm a complete newbee to SSH, but I managed to install it from an RPM, from source, and rebuilt SRPM on a half dozen machines. Each machine, and each method took me less than 10-30 minutes (depending on compile times).
And as I remember, it was a mostly trivial task to get up and running. WIthin 2 hours after that, I figured out how to bring up port forwarding and now have various machines piercing firewalls and allowing me to work from home over an encrypted link.
This worked great for me, except that I never *could* get ICQ working with the Socks5 from nec.com. I *thought* I'd read somewhere on their site that the free version didn't support UDP forwarding or something. But you're saying that you got ICQ to work? Do anything special? Or just an out-of-the-tarball compile and install?
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There are more than 26 letters out there, dude. Do you know any other languages? Did you try to work with them? Ever got pissed encountering 23 ways to encode/screw up text you try to read?
Oh, piss off.
Did he say, "Screw them thar other furriner tongues, speak American or dah!" No. He said "It wiped out performance big time. People are very unhappy."
So are you saying it's a typically arrogant American attitude to want software to run with great performance? New features are great, even better more human language support, but why accept a performance hit?
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Myeahh, myeahh... I got sand in my diaper.
You sure complained quick when your post got moderated in a way you didn't like, but no comment when the moderation changed? It's a dynamic system, and by the time you've bitched, it may have changed. Your complaints are getting old.
I for one might have moderated your post down because your message was indeed a "direct quote from the article". That's nice. I understand you wanted to make emphasis. But try making a comment.
All your arguments about things coming to Linux (Flash, Director, etc) because of Amiga still don't create a compelling reason to use Linux instead of "Amiga-Linux". They do create a compelling reason to use Linux though.
You may be right. Tho, one thing I'm thinking is, that the AmigaOS built on top of Linux won't be Open Source. It'll be proprietary. Yuck. So you might only be able to get Amiga OS on Linux from Amiga.
But that, I think would be a mistake.
My argument was about What, over and above what Linux will offer when Amiga-Linux comes out, will compell people to buy Amiga...
Well, multimedia is my mantra.:) And I guess I see some work being done toward that under Linux in general, but not enough to make me happy.:)
However, if Amiga is not completely closed, and it is contributed to the community... what I think the'd have to do is make a really good hardware platform that their open extensions to Linux really exploits. The original Amiga was a highly integrated mix of hardware and software. Perhaps the advantage will be that Linux runs better on the Amiga platform because the hardware does multimedia better natively, like the original. But I admit, I'm just guessing and hoping.
And yes it was a waste of my time. I was Manager of the ICOA PMWG. But I'm not bitter:)
Oooh, okay, you win.:) That does suck.
Finally, you say it's interesting because it's based on concepts newer than 2 decades. Which part? The Object model? Well, that remains to be seen - and what is an Object model if not an Object oriented API to the OS? We've had API's for decades. And Linux _is_ based on decades old technology.
A good object model isn't just an API to the OS.
The lowest, lowest set of classes is. The rest is incremental construction on top of that. Remember datatypes? They weren't drivers. But in a sense they were, for file types. But something else took care of the API to the OS.
If done right, you can build a pretty rich set of objects on top of a foundation, providing all sorts of services like file types, network protocols, etc and so forth... and if your classes are sufficiently abstracted and dependant only on interfaces, you can pull the entire foundation out from under everything and replace it with a new foundation exposing the same interfaces. Then, everything you've written since first establishing the foundation will stay happy. Thus, perhaps, the ease of switching from QNX to Linux.
At least, that's the dream. Building software out of classes like legos. I think it's the way BeOS works (not sure), but they're not switching they're foundation around. And I'm assuming Amiga is thinking in terms that make sense to me. Could be, they're just chickens sans heads.
I say it would have been interesting if it was going to be QNX based, instead it just looks like a Linux distro with a new commercial look and API. Woo hoo. Not.
The more I think about it, I kinda wish they would have gone with QNX. But I think Linux was a more practical decision, given the groundswell of support of late. But I really think they'll be putting the final gun to their heads if they try to exploit Linux with a non-Open architecture on top of it.
That's their problem-- they should have never made announcements. But they had to do something to keep up interest. Things change though.
(stuff about BeOS and QNX)
Maybe BeOS asked for too much money, maybe they weren't quite what they wanted. Maybe the original announcement should have been, "We're investigating BeOS, and it looks good." As for QNX, maybe it was the best technology and better than Linux-- but compare the developer bases. I've never heard of QNX (tho granted, I could just be oblivious), but I've sure heard of Linux.
Maybe they have faith that Linux can *become* the best technology with their help.
So what happened to the statements like "realtime is important to a multimedia OS". I guess it is'nt.
Could just be PRspeak. Or, could be that they'll be incorporating realtime themselves or using realtime extensions by other people for Linux.
So who is going to buy this new Linux box?
Me.
Not current Linux users for sure - they're happy with what they've got (I know I am).
No I'm not. I can't run Macromedia Flash or Director, and any multimedia performance under Linux sucks rocks. Love the OS, use it at home, but I still have to boot into Win98 occasionally to do part of my job. (i.e. Flash on the web, CDROMs with Director, QTVR creation, etc, so forth...) I see this as what Amiga might bring to Linux.
Not current Amiga users - there's nothing to tempt them to buy the new Amiga over and above Linux.
Umm... maybe an OS that runs on multiple platforms? Maybe modern hardware? Maybe renewed contemporary commercial support? I've got an Amiga 1200 myself, and let me tell ya, tho it still rivals my current PC in a lot of ways, it's aging.
Sad really. In all that time we haven't seen one iota of progress from them development-wise.
That's what you get with a non-Open project. *Shrug*
What are they going to do with their current code? Bin it and re-write for X, instead of Photon? (yes, I know the POSIX stuff will be portable).
I would like to think that what they have is flexible enough to change easily. (i.e. the object model has low level classes to interface with the low level os and drivers, and so not everything up the line has to be rewritten)
Or maybe, they can use something else. LIke Berlin, or an Amiga windowing system with an X compatibility layer. But that's what I'd like to see, not what I think they might be doing.
We've seen constant changes in direction. There's no faith left.
I have no faith in Amiga. It's a machine. It was a religion, but I'd hope that people have learned. But it seems to have a promise to deliver multimedia to Linux now, and I think that's pretty significant.
So, since the only revolutionary stuff is gone (the QNX Neutrino OS) - what's left? An unknown Object model running on top of Linux? I think I'd rather stick with Corba and what I've got right now.
Hmm, I'm thinking the AmigaObject architecture will be the revolutionary stuff. Corba's just a framework. The AmigaObject environment will be the flesh in the framework. You can already see the seeds of it in the old AmigaOS, with datatypes for multimedia, etc...
Imagine-- a multimedia OS based on objects. Oh, wait, that's BeOS.:) Well, maybe Amiga can do better for Linux.
What a shame - I was very hopeful a year ago. What a waste of time.
*shrug* Let 'em waste their time. Or wait, was that a waste of your time? Ignore 'em and stop worrying.:)
My thing is that my ears perk up whenever I hear of someone trying to make a new operating environment that has concepts newer than 2 decades. Granted, those are tried and true concepts in Linux, but we've got better ideas by now one would hope.
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"silicone" and "silicon" are two different things.
Umm, I think that was the point. But thanks for playing.
Actually, I think you're partly right-- it's a matter of ignorance. However, I doubt it will be fixed.
In fact, although some would say this is a violation of an obscure, subtle, lesser known rule of the net... I would say that this is an example of how the GOP don't know or care to really know the culture and rules and how things work on the Net.
Yet, they want to legislate it.
Really, didn't your mother tell you that if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all? Now go wash your mouth out.
Umm... not sure if you guys have been reading Slashdot for long, but the 'founders' of Slashdot don't do much in the way of digging up stories. The readers do. Thus, the readers are, by definition of the site, ahead of the founders.
:)
And yeah, sure, this particular story was mentioned in a message somewhere, but it seems big enough to warrant a post and a link to a news story about it.
So quitcher bitchin.
Yeah, but it's Nintendo's concept, franchise, and brand, and I'll bet you that they make most of the money from it. All the other games, cartoons, and merchandise are all just self-perpetuating sales around that product, which centers around the slogan:
"Gotta catch 'em all!"
WoTC didn't start the fire.
But then again, I don't think there is a fire after all. Just a genius marketing blitz parents should be steering their kids away from.
Children should be responsible, to the extent that they are able. But I recognize that, at certain stages of development children are not quite yet mature enough to handle it.
In that case, the PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Read the story, which mentions the kids are around 9 years old. Where in the hell do kids get the "thousands of dollars" they were "forced" to spend? The story says they "emptied their piggy banks" but I think that's just a euphemism-- given child labor laws, I doubt these piggy banks could have contained much, and thus I bet their money came from adults.
So, why weren't the parents saying no? If the kids were turned into gambling addicts, its the parents who did it. The money burning characteristics of collectable card games notwithstanding, no one FORCES one to buy them.
And no one certainly forced the parents to allow their children so much money to do so!
Am I the only one that thinks emailing out unsolicited passwords in plain text is a bad idea in the first place?
Man! Is this one of my biggest pet peeves! I can kinda understand it for a service that generates a password for me-- I need to log in real quick and change it. It's basically a one time password.
But when I sign up, and PROVIDE a password, and STILL the service sends me an insecure e-mail with the password I JUST PICKED, it really pisses me off!
Even worse, there was a site (I forget which one now) that I hadn't visited in awhile. So, I get spam from them saying, "Hi we haven't seen you around in awhile, in case you forgot, here's your username and password!"
AAAAUUUGGGHHH!!
It's true in their original form they were insults, but as with many subcultures and groups, they sometimes take the terms intended as derogatory and recast them into proud positives. They're still used as insults, but I think as we geeks and nerds get power, WE'RE redefining the words.
Just curious, but did you get this? I know for awhile, Lost Treasures of Infocom I and II were in their catalog online, but they'd sold out of stock a year or two ago. And between those two collections, you had EVERY SINGLE Infocom game. More than the Classic Text Adventure Masterpieces.
SIgh
Went there in Windows, using IE 5.0, and all I get is a dead applet that's spewed out a java.lang.nullpointer exception.
(Yeah, yeah, so I was in Windows. I only use my Windows partition for games and DVD's. And I just finished watching Tron, to myeahh)
My one HUGE gripe with Mandrake so far, after having installed it on two computers... is that they completely screw with the locations where the standard RPM dstributions of files install things.
/opt/kde, and the RPM's I get from www.kde.org go in /opt/kde.
/usr/share/... /usr/bin...) and so the RPM's from www.kde.org won't work for an upgrade.
Namely: KDE. Under my Red Hat system, KDE usually goes in
But, maybe following a system path purist regime or something, the Mandrake people have put KDE in the 'proper' paths. (i.e.
UURRRRGGGHHHH!!
Isn't that a sample in a Skinny Puppy song? On Bites, or Remission I think... Always wondered where that came from.
1) It IS an open standard.
2) People CAN write and HAVE written their own implementations of it.
3) You do need a license, but it costs US$0.
At Macromedia's Flash section:
Flash Homepage
Free Flash Player source code
Open Flash file format FAQ
File format specification
To further Flash as a Web standard, Macromedia has undertaken many initiatives, including opening the Flash file format, releasing the Flash Player code for free licensing, and allowing redistribution of the Flash Player.
So there. It's not Open Source in and of itself, but it exposes the standard for Open Source to be created around it.
Maybe I'm just a conspiracy minded freak, but since the X10 Firecracker giveaway a while ago, X10 went from almost 0 presence in my everyday haunts to almost weekly presence. Is it just coincidence, or has X10's advertising department or PR firm just spend a BUTTLOAD of money getting the word out? The weird thing is, they all seem to come up as stories on "legit" sites but read like press releases rather than reporting. For example, recent links & stories:
Slashdot:
10.Jul.1999: Promotional Freshmeat X10 Firecrackers
23.Jun.1999: More Firecracker Kits For Free
21.Jun.1999: Home automation gadgets for free
Freshmeat:
10.Jul.1999: Free Firecracker Giveaway from X10
Wired News:
19.Aug.1999: MP3s Rock the House
7.Aug.1999: Wireless DVD on TV
Of course, I'm already an advertising casualty because I ordered the Firecracker kit, and then after playing with it ordered US$50 more in stuff. And no, I'm seriously looking at the little camera and radio video transmitter they have for my apartment's web cam.
But don't be like me! This is a warning beacon! Stay back! *BEEP* *BEEP* This meme is under quaranteen! *BEEP* *BEEP* Danger Will Robinson!
Er...
I think it was a joke, silly.
Didn't the details of GIF compression get mostly published as well...?
I think it's because Rob and Hemos hate you. Go away before they do something more drastic besides ignoring you.
AUGH! Back evil lazy coder!
1) Have you been programming for more than a few years?
2) You've programmed, but have you ever really designed and implemented software?
3) Have you ever had to work on a team?
4) Have you ever had to work on something someone else worked on over a year ago-- or better yet, something you did a year ago?
I'm assuming your answer to all of these is no, or maybe the answer to this question:
5) Are you insane, a masochist, or both?
...is yes.
If you would have LISTENED in some of those classes, if they were anything like mine, you might have heard somewhere along the line that 80% of the software dev cycle is MAINTENANCE.
That's important in at least 2 ways:
A) If you have a battle plan laid out before you even start laying down a single byte of code, it's much more likely that later, you won't have as many issues to resolve because you thought about it and kept yourself from screwing it up.
B) You don't remember as much as you think. You will look at things you've written not more than 6 months ago and not remember a damn thing about what you were thinking. Let alone trying to divine what someone else was thinking if you're inheriting someone else's work.
So even when I'm just 'coding for myself', I still load my code with comments and at least write a readme in the header of the program or in a text file somewhere.
Please, please, please... do us all a favor-- don't go work for Microsoft, go back your classes and LISTEN for goodness sake.
Let me differ. Ssh is a pain in the butt to install. I have tried this one and gave up. Laugh however you want about point-and-drool types, I just don't want to spend a week setting up ssh. It just isn't worth the effort presently.
Whatwhatwhat?
I'm a complete newbee to SSH, but I managed to install it from an RPM, from source, and rebuilt SRPM on a half dozen machines. Each machine, and each method took me less than 10-30 minutes (depending on compile times).
And as I remember, it was a mostly trivial task to get up and running. WIthin 2 hours after that, I figured out how to bring up port forwarding and now have various machines piercing firewalls and allowing me to work from home over an encrypted link.
WHeee!
This worked great for me, except that I never *could* get ICQ working with the Socks5 from nec.com. I *thought* I'd read somewhere on their site that the free version didn't support UDP forwarding or something. But you're saying that you got ICQ to work? Do anything special? Or just an out-of-the-tarball compile and install?
There are more than 26 letters out there, dude. Do you know any other languages? Did you try to work with them? Ever got pissed encountering 23 ways to encode/screw up text you try to read?
Oh, piss off.
Did he say, "Screw them thar other furriner tongues, speak American or dah!" No. He said "It wiped out performance big time. People
are very unhappy."
So are you saying it's a typically arrogant American attitude to want software to run with great performance? New features are great, even better more human language support, but why accept a performance hit?
Myeahh, myeahh... I got sand in my diaper.
You sure complained quick when your post got moderated in a way you didn't like, but no comment when the moderation changed? It's a dynamic system, and by the time you've bitched, it may have changed. Your complaints are getting old.
I for one might have moderated your post down because your message was indeed a "direct quote from the article". That's nice. I understand you wanted to make emphasis. But try making a comment.
WHat are you smoking? Open Source implementing *open standards* is one of the mantras of the whole movement.
You can be as rebel, rebel as you like, but you still have to use HTTP if you want to make a web browser.
All your arguments about things coming to Linux (Flash, Director, etc) because of Amiga still don't create a compelling reason to use Linux instead of "Amiga-Linux". They do create a compelling reason to use Linux though.
:) And I guess I see some work being done toward that under Linux in general, but not enough to make me happy. :)
:)
:) That does suck.
You may be right. Tho, one thing I'm thinking is, that the AmigaOS built on top of Linux won't be Open Source. It'll be proprietary. Yuck. So you might only be able to get Amiga OS on Linux from Amiga.
But that, I think would be a mistake.
My argument was about What, over and above what Linux will offer when Amiga-Linux comes out, will compell people to buy Amiga...
Well, multimedia is my mantra.
However, if Amiga is not completely closed, and it is contributed to the community... what I think the'd have to do is make a really good hardware platform that their open extensions to Linux really exploits. The original Amiga was a highly integrated mix of hardware and software. Perhaps the advantage will be that Linux runs better on the Amiga platform because the hardware does multimedia better natively, like the original. But I admit, I'm just guessing and hoping.
And yes it was a waste of my time. I was Manager of the ICOA PMWG. But I'm not bitter
Oooh, okay, you win.
Finally, you say it's interesting because it's based on concepts newer than 2 decades. Which part? The Object model? Well, that remains to be seen - and what is an Object model if not an Object oriented API to the OS? We've had API's for decades. And Linux _is_ based on decades old technology.
A good object model isn't just an API to the OS.
The lowest, lowest set of classes is. The rest is incremental construction on top of that. Remember datatypes? They weren't drivers. But in a sense they were, for file types. But something else took care of the API to the OS.
If done right, you can build a pretty rich set of objects on top of a foundation, providing all sorts of services like file types, network protocols, etc and so forth... and if your classes are sufficiently abstracted and dependant only on interfaces, you can pull the entire foundation out from under everything and replace it with a new foundation exposing the same interfaces. Then, everything you've written since first establishing the foundation will stay happy. Thus, perhaps, the ease of switching from QNX to Linux.
At least, that's the dream. Building software out of classes like legos. I think it's the way BeOS works (not sure), but they're not switching they're foundation around. And I'm assuming Amiga is thinking in terms that make sense to me. Could be, they're just chickens sans heads.
I say it would have been interesting if it was going to be QNX based, instead it just looks like a Linux distro with a new commercial look and API. Woo hoo. Not.
The more I think about it, I kinda wish they would have gone with QNX. But I think Linux was a more practical decision, given the groundswell of support of late. But I really think they'll be putting the final gun to their heads if they try to exploit Linux with a non-Open architecture on top of it.
A year ago Amiga made this big announcement
:) Well, maybe Amiga can do better for Linux.
:)
That's their problem-- they should have never made announcements. But they had to do something to keep up interest. Things change though.
(stuff about BeOS and QNX)
Maybe BeOS asked for too much money, maybe they weren't quite what they wanted. Maybe the original announcement should have been, "We're investigating BeOS, and it looks good." As for QNX, maybe it was the best technology and better than Linux-- but compare the developer bases. I've never heard of QNX (tho granted, I could just be oblivious), but I've sure heard of Linux.
Maybe they have faith that Linux can *become* the best technology with their help.
So what happened to the statements like "realtime is important to a multimedia OS". I guess it is'nt.
Could just be PRspeak. Or, could be that they'll be incorporating realtime themselves or using realtime extensions by other people for Linux.
So who is going to buy this new Linux box?
Me.
Not current Linux users for sure - they're happy with what they've got (I know I am).
No I'm not. I can't run Macromedia Flash or Director, and any multimedia performance under Linux sucks rocks. Love the OS, use it at home, but I still have to boot into Win98 occasionally to do part of my job. (i.e. Flash on the web, CDROMs with Director, QTVR creation, etc, so forth...) I see this as what Amiga might bring to Linux.
Not current Amiga users - there's nothing to tempt them to buy the new Amiga over and above Linux.
Umm... maybe an OS that runs on multiple platforms? Maybe modern hardware? Maybe renewed contemporary commercial support? I've got an Amiga 1200 myself, and let me tell ya, tho it still rivals my current PC in a lot of ways, it's aging.
Sad really. In all that time we haven't seen one iota of progress from them development-wise.
That's what you get with a non-Open project. *Shrug*
What are they going to do with their current code? Bin it and re-write for X, instead of Photon? (yes, I know the POSIX stuff will be portable).
I would like to think that what they have is flexible enough to change easily. (i.e. the object model has low level classes to interface with the low level os and drivers, and so not everything up the line has to be rewritten)
Or maybe, they can use something else. LIke Berlin, or an Amiga windowing system with an X compatibility layer. But that's what I'd like to see, not what I think they might be doing.
We've seen constant changes in direction. There's no faith left.
I have no faith in Amiga. It's a machine. It was a religion, but I'd hope that people have learned. But it seems to have a promise to deliver multimedia to Linux now, and I think that's pretty significant.
So, since the only revolutionary stuff is gone (the QNX Neutrino OS) - what's left? An unknown Object model running on top of Linux? I think I'd rather stick with Corba and what I've got right now.
Hmm, I'm thinking the AmigaObject architecture will be the revolutionary stuff. Corba's just a framework. The AmigaObject environment will be the flesh in the framework. You can already see the seeds of it in the old AmigaOS, with datatypes for multimedia, etc...
Imagine-- a multimedia OS based on objects. Oh, wait, that's BeOS.
What a shame - I was very hopeful a year ago. What a waste of time.
*shrug* Let 'em waste their time. Or wait, was that a waste of your time? Ignore 'em and stop worrying.
My thing is that my ears perk up whenever I hear of someone trying to make a new operating environment that has concepts newer than 2 decades. Granted, those are tried and true concepts in Linux, but we've got better ideas by now one would hope.