The "Amiga" is more a philosophical legacy than anything now. Originally, it was the first 32-bit, pre-emptive multitasking, high performance, multimedia platform. Oh, and it ran fairly nicely in 2MB of ram. And brilliantly in under 8MB. And very very nice from there up.
Now, what's left of it is the philosophy of creating a high performance computing platform with multimedia built in from the ground up. They're trying to revive the attributes of the original Amiga using modern hardware.
What all the noise means is, they need a foundation (QNX, now Linux). On top of that, they're writing the drivers and applications to reach the goal. In other words, not a variation of KDE-- but their own KDE equivalent, video drivers and datatypes, sound drivers and datatypes, performance tweaks, etc and so forth.
Part of the goal may be that the Amiga OS can run on any hardware. However, I imagine that they'll develop a hardware platform specifically optimized for the performance they want.
So the "Amiga" is an OS, and eventually a hardware platform.
So... I still don't get your point.:) Given the price of hard drives (I know, I bought a 128 MB for my Amiga at US$300), it would seem to me that having the *option* of running from floppy with a ram disk for cached commands would be optimal. Of course, once you had a hard drive, you no longer needed kickstart.
But never having used an Atari ST, I dunno how they did it better.
Not saying whether it's right or wrong, but it's not just Amiga. It may surprise you, but that's the way a lot of business does business.
For instance, I'm in an advertising agency. My department does proposals, web sites, multimedia CDROMs, etc, so forth... for a variety of clients. We spend a lot of time and money busting ass to impress the client.
And you know what? It's not uncommon for the client to either say, "Thank you, but no." Or worse, if we haven't explicitly put forth a nondisclosure agreement, they can take the proposals and work we've done so far and pitch the whole thing to another vendor.
So I wouldn't blame Amiga. Maybe it sounds horrible, but it's not "The Amiga Way," it's the vendor-client relationship way.
And besides, I'm happier with the decision, Amiga needs to make whatever decisions necessary for their success, no matter who they make happy or sad-- except the consumer of Amiga.
One more thing-- Amiga + Linux. Isn't multimedia performance/support one of Linux's worst faults? What if Amiga can solve that?
I'm joking, of course. Perl is a cool language, and you'll never stop using it now that you know it -- however, you'll find that text processing is actually NOT the best way to do everything. Including CGI.
Hmm... but I like writing things like s/$!$*..$%$#/#$@/xcvb and having it do cool things.:) (Just kidding).
Then Zope is forever off-limits to you. I'm sorry.
On the other hand, perhaps it might be worth your while to appeal to your ISP (whom _you_ are paying to provide a service) and convince them to add what is a very minor and highly useful program.
Unfortunately, the owners of servers where I work are not hired by us. We're hired by them.:) I work in the Interactive department of an ad agency, and we create the content and programming for web sites hosted by our clients' MIS departments.
That's why the feature to publish static pages via file system or FTP upload is attractive to me, since I might not even have to install a Web Application Server (mine or Zope) on a remote server. Just install one here and use it as a development machine, and have static updates rolled automatically to the client's machines.
Zope is *highly* optimized, and if there's a fast way to do something it'll do it. All of the bottlenecks are written in C, thanks to Python's extensibility.
And no, it's unlikely that a static page would be served faster
That's the gist I'm getting so far... And unless I can recruit people to the project who can do those optimisations for me, looks like I will fall behind in performance.:( But maybe caching static pages will make up for it somewhat.
I'd say you're wasting your time -- but of course, I don't really believe that. I wish you luck.
Well, I'm hoping that, once I complete the first revision's batch of features and release it open source that I can attract some fellow Perl Mongers to waste time with me.:)
You're not going to be able to match Zope, though; Python doesn't have CPAN, but it does have a HUGE number of useful scripts for a huge number of purposes. Zope has ACL security, transaction-level undo and redo, highly optimized code, and a solid support community.
So far, I have the versioning of objects to do transactions, have access control, but not the optimization or the community. HOping the community will come, and from there the optimizations and support. But maybe I'm too optimistic about the 'Build it and they will come' concept.:)
Oh, and you don't have to learn Python to use it -- but you will, you will. Once you've seen what Python can do so easily, there's no way you'll remain satisfied with the Old Way of doing things.
Well, from what limited experience I have with Python, I like it. But my time is limited, and I don't want to devote time to mastering another language for just one product (i.e. Zope) when I have skill in Perl and use it every day. THen again, maybe after an attempt at matching that one product, I'll find that further time might be better spent with Python.
But I want to learn the hard way for now.:) Anyone else interested?
Ack... been looking at Zope, and I really like what it can do, but I've got a few snags with it.
1) It's in Python. Ack. I *want* to like Python, but there are just too many factors keeping me from affording any time to it. I'm still a Perl Monger.
2) Major control needed over the server, which sucks when you don't own the server and have no possible say over configuration. Most commonly, Perl and *maybe* a database are available to me. Installing Python, and web server extensions is verboten.
3) It's all dynamic. No static publishing of pages which are, for the majority of the time, static. Granted there's a cache, but can that be as fast as spitting an HTML file instance of a content object into the web doc root and letting Apahe serve it up?
I've been working on what's partially a "clone" of Zope, in that it has much of the same functionality, written in Perl.
Beyond being a clone, I'm also working on scheduled static publishing features. And publishing can mean writing a static file to the web server path, or uploading to a remote FTP server.
And, being in Perl, I want to leverage the whole of CPAN behind making a library of content classes. (i.e. POP3 enabled objects, IRC objects, FInger objects, whatever)
I'm also working on making it mod_perl friendly so that, when you are using it to serve up dynamic objects it shifts from static pages to a mod_perl accellerated server.
Basically, when I'm done, I want a system that's flexible enough to fit many scenarios. You can have it on your home linux box as a dev site, FTP'ing updates automatically to Mom&Pop's ISP. You can have it on a whip ass Apache/mod_perl server providing published static and dynamic content.
Why all the trouble? Ninjacode.com. We want to put together a Webmonkey-like site, but maintained and written entirely by the community. Delegate editorial control of certain sections to trusted people, allow article submission by anyone, allow peer-review of CGI scripts through SlashDot-like forums, etc so forth... and all administered via web.
Anyway... I'm done babbling. Just want to see if anyone's interested in my project, or if anyone can give me really good reasons to learn Python and stop reinventing the wheel..
So why do I have eyes? I can feel around perfectly well. Nevermind that something is crashing behind me, and maybe I can hear it, and maybe I'll touch chunks of something falling on me before I get buried.
So why do we use radio telescopes? Visible light shows stars well enough. Or why do we need smell? I would have known that my halogen lamp was starting a fire soon enough, once I saw the flames.
BLah blah blah. "I'm a tough hacker and don't need no WIMP os." Go away.
We have multiple senses. Each one is a channel of information. Any intuitive device should effectively leverage each of those senses to convey information about its state and goings on. And a server OS should leverage those senses most of all, since there is so much information there.
I would have never realized my Linux box was under a successful hack attempt if I didn't have a GUI throwing up dialogs telling me so. And it would have taken me years to discover the config options available to me without a semi-intuitive interface presenting them.
Yeah, yeah, I know. You're a tough hacker and RTFM reams and reams of man pages, FAQs, yadda yadda...
Sorry. I have better things to do, and my machinery should assist me in the use of my time, not suck down as much of it as possible with anti-intuitive interfaces.
Umm.. reverse engineering and disassembly?
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Not having bothered to look at an EULA lately, but I know their ilk tend to have admonishments against unauthorized reverse engineering and disassembly, as well as transmission in human readable and yadda yadda format...
Been there, done that. I think the point is, although Rob has made code drops there, we don't have Open Source style bleeding-edge access to what his burrito-inspired gastro-intestinal coding yielded Sunday night.:) (I've had some mean Mexican algorithms myself.)
Let the rest of us geeks help!:) Though, I think Rob would need to appoint a "patch gatekeeper" since it's close to inhuman to 1) Write the backend of a site, 2) Run the side, and 3) Corral the contributions of 1000 cooks to the pot.
Just watched this message leap up through two pages of scroll inbetween replying to messages, so something tells me the fat lady hadn't sung yet when you replied. I think it must have a positive score by now.
ANd as I end every message in this thread... you people are so over-reacting.
A city with the population of 1,000,000 publishes a phone book. 408 city workers are chosen to decide who is "worth" communicating with, the others are not published directly.
All the messages are "published". All our "city workers" do is push the messages back in the pages. And once they get so far back, magic origami makes them hidden. But they're still there.
They reasoning behind it is, "If someone wants to hear what *those* people have to say, they'll have to call information."
Bad analogy. You don't have to "call information" every time you want to read the hidden pages. All you have to do is, flip to the back of the book, pull the tab that says "Undo Magic Origami", and the book expands as all the messages appear.
Yeah yeah, magic origami. Stupid way to phrase it. But that's basically what's happening. It only takes a few clicks to get all those posts back. If you don't like it, disable it. Where is there any revocation of choice here?
To correct myself on what might have sounded pretty bad ("simple math"):
-408 is not the lowest score, tho it's a pretty low threshold. Figure 408 moderators, if they were all pissed and got 20 points each a day, and all decided to nuke one message for a month, it'd be around -244800...
So if you're expecting that, go ahead and set that as your threshold.
I think the current limit on moderators, one point change in a post's score per 50 messages posted on Slashdot is a decent enough limitation to prevent obscene abuses like that.
I mean, say 1000 posts happen in a Slashdot day, that's 20 points. Not a *whole* lot of damage can be done with that. Maybe force a message down to -20, but that's a pretty blatant abuse and will probably have the person smoted pretty shortly.
But a point here and a point there is a lil hard to cause damage with.
Sorry for the caps in the subject, I promise this isn't a flame.
1. A "simple" way to find how my comments are moderated.
Elaborate "how". As in, who did it? What they scored it as? That breaks the anonymity, which is essential to the moderation, or all moderators would get mailbombed each time they did anything.:) Otherwise, I think the "last comments posted" display in one's user page should show what scored those posts have gotten.
2. A "simple" way to find which comments are moderated for a specific article.
Agreed with this... One should be able to see the score of each article, as well as a count of how many messages are moderated in an article. I've been told the moderators can already see this, so why not enable that for all?
3. Tell us what the lowest possible score is, I abhore censorship and would like to see all comments..
That's simple math. 408 moderators? The lowest possible score is -408 then. Got mine set to -9999 so I think my threshold will scale for awhile.:)
Why? So I can trust/.. In this country I can read all the governments documents (that are not specifically secret) and I find that a very good thing.
I think everyone is MAJORLY overreacting to this. No messages are being deleted. No messages are prevented from being viewed. Setting a sufficiently low threshold will reveal all. The only gripe is that the default for users' thresholds are positive, but that's up to the user to change.
THE ENTIRE MODERATION SYSTEM CAN BE EFFECTIVELY COUNTERED FOR YOU IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS.
You can choose by what criteria to sort your comments display. I have mine sorting by score right now, with my thresh set to -999. I see all, but can choose to move along to another story if it starts going silly.
Umm... hello? Of course it has a long way to go yet. This isn't anything more than a pre-pre-pre-alpha release with all the debug flags turned on, nothing in the way of optimization turned on.
Have you read what this is? It's a release for the developers, so they have something usable from day to day with a max failure rate of once per hour. You do the math.
Well, do you have CVS access, or are you using anonymous access? You can checkout a copy of the latest tree, but obviously not update it unless you're one of the developers with tree access...
Unlike IE5.0, Mozilla/Netscape 5.0 will be what we really expect from a next version release. Haven't had time or skill to directly contribute to the project, but I'd built releases on a monthly basis, run through tests, submitted bug reports, and followed the development...
Some very exciting things. Like the whole UI specified in an XML document, and dialog windows defined in HTML. Like having the architecture componentized (one of MS' bit bragging points) and able to be updated incrementally, rather then d/ling an entire new install for a 0.1 version increase. And amazingly complete standards support.
And on top of all that, it'll be nowhere near 100MB to download. I think if they get a beta out early enough this year, they might be able to take 5.0 share, just on the lack of d/l time alone.:)
I'm excited, being a web developer, that there might be hope in using these whiz bang things like DHTML in a general audience soon.
Ready and willing-- already had to do it once, when it hit the pavement and the screen's ribbon cable came loose.:) Was more inclined to hack around inside than spend $100 for shipping & repair.
I wonder how much this "upgrade" would have cost if it were included in the original design of the thing in the first place. That was one of the biggest disappointments to me about the new palms (IIIx and V) is that the price of the V was so much higher, but the IIIx was mostly the superior machine.
Starting to feel like my fave PDA might be a dying breed as other brands gain majorly on the technology because of decisions like this.:(
Next, I want someone to tell me how I cna swap out the screen on my plain vanilla Palm III for the new IIIx screen.:) I'm drooling over that lovely display!
Unfortunately for my projects, I still hav eto use that old method of pretending there's a databse by making files.:( Sucks when you're doing work for a client who doesn't have and won't get a database yet expects database driven sites.
Ugh. Read the license again.:( It says basically, you can do lookups only in response to a CD in your machine's drive, and then only upload data back to Escient. (i.e. No lookups on a proxy request, no data relayed to anyone but Escient.)
ii) The Player under this Agreement may permit the End User to aggregate Data only (a) in his or her personal computer (b) only in response to the CDs placed in his or her computer.
iii) You agree that your Player shall not have or enable functionality that uploads or permits the transmission of Data to anyone other than Escient. You agree not to upload, aggregate or collect Data derived from the CDDB Database or End User Data.
So many things I could say, but I just have to shake my head at this. Just hope WordPerfect for Linux doesn't preserve this ID.
Any enterprising h4xx0r want to make a patch to corrupt/obscure/wipe this ID?
And, seeing the number of scans & attacks hammering my machines on this cable modem network makes me wonder if there's a possible bit of nastiness that could be done by submitting a flood of bogus ID's to MS Windows Update?
The "Amiga" is more a philosophical legacy than anything now. Originally, it was the first 32-bit, pre-emptive multitasking, high performance, multimedia platform. Oh, and it ran fairly nicely in 2MB of ram. And brilliantly in under 8MB. And very very nice from there up.
Now, what's left of it is the philosophy of creating a high performance computing platform with multimedia built in from the ground up. They're trying to revive the attributes of the original Amiga using modern hardware.
What all the noise means is, they need a foundation (QNX, now Linux). On top of that, they're writing the drivers and applications to reach the goal. In other words, not a variation of KDE-- but their own KDE equivalent, video drivers and datatypes, sound drivers and datatypes, performance tweaks, etc and so forth.
Part of the goal may be that the Amiga OS can run on any hardware. However, I imagine that they'll develop a hardware platform specifically optimized for the performance they want.
So the "Amiga" is an OS, and eventually a hardware platform.
So... I still don't get your point. :) Given the price of hard drives (I know, I bought a 128 MB for my Amiga at US$300), it would seem to me that having the *option* of running from floppy with a ram disk for cached commands would be optimal. Of course, once you had a hard drive, you no longer needed kickstart.
But never having used an Atari ST, I dunno how they did it better.
Not saying whether it's right or wrong, but it's not just Amiga. It may surprise you, but that's the way a lot of business does business.
For instance, I'm in an advertising agency. My department does proposals, web sites, multimedia CDROMs, etc, so forth... for a variety of clients. We spend a lot of time and money busting ass to impress the client.
And you know what? It's not uncommon for the client to either say, "Thank you, but no." Or worse, if we haven't explicitly put forth a nondisclosure agreement, they can take the proposals and work we've done so far and pitch the whole thing to another vendor.
So I wouldn't blame Amiga. Maybe it sounds horrible, but it's not "The Amiga Way," it's the vendor-client relationship way.
And besides, I'm happier with the decision, Amiga needs to make whatever decisions necessary for their success, no matter who they make happy or sad-- except the consumer of Amiga.
One more thing-- Amiga + Linux. Isn't multimedia performance/support one of Linux's worst faults? What if Amiga can solve that?
I'm joking, of course. Perl is a cool language, and you'll never stop using it now that you know it -- however, you'll find that text processing is actually NOT the best way to do everything. Including CGI.
:) (Just kidding).
:) I work in the Interactive department of an ad agency, and we create the content and programming for web sites hosted by our clients' MIS departments.
:( But maybe caching static pages will make up for it somewhat.
:)
:)
:) Anyone else interested?
Hmm... but I like writing things like s/$!$*..$%$#/#$@/xcvb and having it do cool things.
Then Zope is forever off-limits to you. I'm sorry.
On the other hand, perhaps it might be worth your while to appeal to your ISP (whom _you_ are paying to provide a service) and convince them to add what is a very minor and highly useful program.
Unfortunately, the owners of servers where I work are not hired by us. We're hired by them.
That's why the feature to publish static pages via file system or FTP upload is attractive to me, since I might not even have to install a Web Application Server (mine or Zope) on a remote server. Just install one here and use it as a development machine, and have static updates rolled automatically to the client's machines.
Zope is *highly* optimized, and if there's a fast way to do something it'll do it. All of the bottlenecks are written in C, thanks to Python's extensibility.
And no, it's unlikely that a static page would be served faster
That's the gist I'm getting so far... And unless I can recruit people to the project who can do those optimisations for me, looks like I will fall behind in performance.
I'd say you're wasting your time -- but of course, I don't really believe that. I wish you luck.
Well, I'm hoping that, once I complete the first revision's batch of features and release it open source that I can attract some fellow Perl Mongers to waste time with me.
You're not going to be able to match Zope, though; Python doesn't have CPAN, but it does have a HUGE number of useful scripts for a huge number of purposes. Zope has ACL security, transaction-level undo and redo, highly optimized code, and a solid support community.
So far, I have the versioning of objects to do transactions, have access control, but not the optimization or the community. HOping the community will come, and from there the optimizations and support. But maybe I'm too optimistic about the 'Build it and they will come' concept.
Oh, and you don't have to learn Python to use it -- but you will, you will. Once you've seen what Python can do so easily, there's no way
you'll remain satisfied with the Old Way of doing things.
Well, from what limited experience I have with Python, I like it. But my time is limited, and I don't want to devote time to mastering another language for just one product (i.e. Zope) when I have skill in Perl and use it every day. THen again, maybe after an attempt at matching that one product, I'll find that further time might be better spent with Python.
But I want to learn the hard way for now.
Ack... been looking at Zope, and I really like what it can do, but I've got a few snags with it.
1) It's in Python. Ack. I *want* to like Python, but there are just too many factors keeping me from affording any time to it. I'm still a Perl Monger.
2) Major control needed over the server, which sucks when you don't own the server and have no possible say over configuration. Most commonly, Perl and *maybe* a database are available to me. Installing Python, and web server extensions is verboten.
3) It's all dynamic. No static publishing of pages which are, for the majority of the time, static. Granted there's a cache, but can that be as fast as spitting an HTML file instance of a content object into the web doc root and letting Apahe serve it up?
I've been working on what's partially a "clone" of Zope, in that it has much of the same functionality, written in Perl.
Beyond being a clone, I'm also working on scheduled static publishing features. And publishing can mean writing a static file to the web server path, or uploading to a remote FTP server.
And, being in Perl, I want to leverage the whole of CPAN behind making a library of content classes. (i.e. POP3 enabled objects, IRC objects, FInger objects, whatever)
I'm also working on making it mod_perl friendly so that, when you are using it to serve up dynamic objects it shifts from static pages to a mod_perl accellerated server.
Basically, when I'm done, I want a system that's flexible enough to fit many scenarios. You can have it on your home linux box as a dev site, FTP'ing updates automatically to Mom&Pop's ISP. You can have it on a whip ass Apache/mod_perl server providing published static and dynamic content.
Why all the trouble? Ninjacode.com. We want to put together a Webmonkey-like site, but maintained and written entirely by the community. Delegate editorial control of certain sections to trusted people, allow article submission by anyone, allow peer-review of CGI scripts through SlashDot-like forums, etc so forth... and all administered via web.
Anyway... I'm done babbling. Just want to see if anyone's interested in my project, or if anyone can give me really good reasons to learn Python and stop reinventing the wheel..
So why do I have eyes? I can feel around perfectly well. Nevermind that something is crashing behind me, and maybe I can hear it, and maybe I'll touch chunks of something falling on me before I get buried.
So why do we use radio telescopes? Visible light shows stars well enough. Or why do we need smell? I would have known that my halogen lamp was starting a fire soon enough, once I saw the flames.
BLah blah blah. "I'm a tough hacker and don't need no WIMP os." Go away.
We have multiple senses. Each one is a channel of information. Any intuitive device should effectively leverage each of those senses to convey information about its state and goings on. And a server OS should leverage those senses most of all, since there is so much information there.
I would have never realized my Linux box was under a successful hack attempt if I didn't have a GUI throwing up dialogs telling me so. And it would have taken me years to discover the config options available to me without a semi-intuitive interface presenting them.
Yeah, yeah, I know. You're a tough hacker and RTFM reams and reams of man pages, FAQs, yadda yadda...
Sorry. I have better things to do, and my machinery should assist me in the use of my time, not suck down as much of it as possible with anti-intuitive interfaces.
Not having bothered to look at an EULA lately, but I know their ilk tend to have admonishments against unauthorized reverse engineering and disassembly, as well as transmission in human readable and yadda yadda format...
wouldn't the above fall into that territory?
THat moderators think it's a good point and thread? WHat else could it be?
Been there, done that. I think the point is, although Rob has made code drops there, we don't have Open Source style bleeding-edge access to what his burrito-inspired gastro-intestinal coding yielded Sunday night. :) (I've had some mean Mexican algorithms myself.)
:) Though, I think Rob would need to appoint a "patch gatekeeper" since it's close to inhuman to 1) Write the backend of a site, 2) Run the side, and 3) Corral the contributions of 1000 cooks to the pot.
Let the rest of us geeks help!
Don't see it happening swiftly.
Just watched this message leap up through two pages of scroll inbetween replying to messages, so something tells me the fat lady hadn't sung yet when you replied. I think it must have a positive score by now.
ANd as I end every message in this thread... you people are so over-reacting.
A city with the population of 1,000,000 publishes a phone book. 408 city workers are chosen to decide who is "worth" communicating with, the others are not published directly.
All the messages are "published". All our "city workers" do is push the messages back in the pages. And once they get so far back, magic origami makes them hidden. But they're still there.
They reasoning behind it is, "If someone wants to hear what *those* people have to say, they'll have to call information."
Bad analogy. You don't have to "call information" every time you want to read the hidden pages. All you have to do is, flip to the back of the book, pull the tab that says "Undo Magic Origami", and the book expands as all the messages appear.
Yeah yeah, magic origami. Stupid way to phrase it. But that's basically what's happening. It only takes a few clicks to get all those posts back. If you don't like it, disable it. Where is there any revocation of choice here?
To correct myself on what might have sounded pretty bad ("simple math"):
-408 is not the lowest score, tho it's a pretty low threshold. Figure 408 moderators, if they were all pissed and got 20 points each a day, and all decided to nuke one message for a month, it'd be around -244800...
So if you're expecting that, go ahead and set that as your threshold.
I think the current limit on moderators, one point change in a post's score per 50 messages posted on Slashdot is a decent enough limitation to prevent obscene abuses like that.
I mean, say 1000 posts happen in a Slashdot day, that's 20 points. Not a *whole* lot of damage can be done with that. Maybe force a message down to -20, but that's a pretty blatant abuse and will probably have the person smoted pretty shortly.
But a point here and a point there is a lil hard to cause damage with.
Sorry for the caps in the subject, I promise this isn't a flame.
:) Otherwise, I think the "last comments posted" display in one's user page should show what scored those posts have gotten.
:)
/.. In this country I can read all the governments documents (that are not specifically secret) and I find that a very good thing.
1. A "simple" way to find how my comments are moderated.
Elaborate "how". As in, who did it? What they scored it as? That breaks the anonymity, which is essential to the moderation, or all moderators would get mailbombed each time they did anything.
2. A "simple" way to find which comments are moderated for a specific article.
Agreed with this... One should be able to see the score of each article, as well as a count of how many messages are moderated in an article. I've been told the moderators can already see this, so why not enable that for all?
3. Tell us what the lowest possible score is, I abhore censorship and would like to see all comments..
That's simple math. 408 moderators? The lowest possible score is -408 then. Got mine set to -9999 so I think my threshold will scale for awhile.
Why? So I can trust
I think everyone is MAJORLY overreacting to this. No messages are being deleted. No messages are prevented from being viewed. Setting a sufficiently low threshold will reveal all. The only gripe is that the default for users' thresholds are positive, but that's up to the user to change.
THE ENTIRE MODERATION SYSTEM CAN BE EFFECTIVELY COUNTERED FOR YOU IN ABOUT 10 SECONDS.
You can choose by what criteria to sort your comments display. I have mine sorting by score right now, with my thresh set to -999. I see all, but can choose to move along to another story if it starts going silly.
Umm... hello? Of course it has a long way to go yet. This isn't anything more than a pre-pre-pre-alpha release with all the debug flags turned on, nothing in the way of optimization turned on.
Have you read what this is? It's a release for the developers, so they have something usable from day to day with a max failure rate of once per hour. You do the math.
Well, do you have CVS access, or are you using anonymous access? You can checkout a copy of the latest tree, but obviously not update it unless you're one of the developers with tree access...
Unlike IE5.0, Mozilla/Netscape 5.0 will be what we really expect from a next version release. Haven't had time or skill to directly contribute to the project, but I'd built releases on a monthly basis, run through tests, submitted bug reports, and followed the development...
:)
Some very exciting things. Like the whole UI specified in an XML document, and dialog windows defined in HTML. Like having the architecture componentized (one of MS' bit bragging points) and able to be updated incrementally, rather then d/ling an entire new install for a 0.1 version increase. And amazingly complete standards support.
And on top of all that, it'll be nowhere near 100MB to download. I think if they get a beta out early enough this year, they might be able to take 5.0 share, just on the lack of d/l time alone.
I'm excited, being a web developer, that there might be hope in using these whiz bang things like DHTML in a general audience soon.
Ready and willing-- already had to do it once, when it hit the pavement and the screen's ribbon cable came loose. :) Was more inclined to hack around inside than spend $100 for shipping & repair.
Ya don't happen to have a URL on that do ya?
I wonder how much this "upgrade" would have cost if it were included in the original design of the thing in the first place. That was one of the biggest disappointments to me about the new palms (IIIx and V) is that the price of the V was so much higher, but the IIIx was mostly the superior machine.
:(
:) I'm drooling over that lovely display!
Starting to feel like my fave PDA might be a dying breed as other brands gain majorly on the technology because of decisions like this.
Next, I want someone to tell me how I cna swap out the screen on my plain vanilla Palm III for the new IIIx screen.
RTFS. Uses a MySQL database of messages.
:( Sucks when you're doing work for a client who doesn't have and won't get a database yet expects database driven sites.
Unfortunately for my projects, I still hav eto use that old method of pretending there's a databse by making files.
Ugh. Read the license again. :( It says basically, you can do lookups only in response to a CD in your machine's drive, and then only upload data back to Escient. (i.e. No lookups on a proxy request, no data relayed to anyone but Escient.)
ii) The Player under this Agreement may permit the End User to aggregate Data only (a) in his or her
personal computer (b) only in response to the CDs placed in his or her computer.
iii) You agree that your Player shall not have or enable functionality that uploads or permits the
transmission of Data to anyone other than Escient. You agree not to upload, aggregate or collect Data
derived from the CDDB Database or End User Data.
So many things I could say, but I just have to shake my head at this. Just hope WordPerfect for Linux doesn't preserve this ID.
Any enterprising h4xx0r want to make a patch to corrupt/obscure/wipe this ID?
And, seeing the number of scans & attacks hammering my machines on this cable modem network makes me wonder if there's a possible bit of nastiness that could be done by submitting a flood of bogus ID's to MS Windows Update?
All academic ponderings, I assure you...
(besides, he smites believers too, just look at Job)
Well, that just makes me want to jump right in and be a believer! Hallelujah!
If anything keeps me awake at night, its people with guns and little fish symbols on their cars.
if your mom ordered a car only having seen a picture you should both be shot
Nope, not quite. You look at the pictures, then order someone to come by for a test drive. What, you think those auto sites just UPS it to you?