If the cookie cutter housung units were the equivalents of the CLI, then every one would come with power windows, sinks, showers/bathtubs, and toilets. They would have interchangable interiors, automatic furnature generators, and customizable security controls. Depending on the parameters you pass (upon entry), you could romp around interactively, or have it do everything for you. You would be able to interactively move people into the forground or background, break, or even kill them with a simple command.
My comment is directly based on how often I have to upgrade my Linux box due to security updates verses how often I read about "critical" MS security patches on Slashdot.
Slashdot has tons of anti-MS bias, though. Linux definitely has it's fair share of security problems. They're just not as widely publicised. (I am one of the dual users you speak of).
No. Linux users are the educated minority. Look at me, I'm wicked geeky, I installed Mandriva Linux all by myself! Look at my leet skills. I know how to namedrop stuff like emacs, vi and latex in a discussion but I have no idea what they are good for or how to use them! Gates is evil! LOL. I'm so funny and smart. Look at me how much better I am at programming than M$ programmers. I've heard of awk and LISP, but I couldn't understand it. Yet, I make fun of so-called script kiddies because in an online chat room, it's easy to pretend to know what I'm talking about. Linux is the best! Better than Unix, which is based on an old technology.
And here I was all ready to call you a karma whore... but you posted as AC. Oh, and btw, you forgot about the tpyos.
You have to remember: Windows 2003 Server is right now, the largest programming artifact in existence
Naw. I'd say that's BSD;)
mean, why is it that everyone is getting so 'uptight' here about that anyhow? I don't see Linux with a DB driven filesystem either!
Honestly, I don't think that DB is the way to do it either. I find indexing (ala Tenor/Spotlight) a much better solution. Regardless of that, though--you must admit that the Windows search engine blows.
And, in a related topic: Most filesystems are, in fact, database driven. They use many of the same algorithms, provide atomic operations, and have queries (file locations). It just so happens that they don't use SQL to do it.
(Windows NT-based Os' are built to have an extensible filesystem)
However, it's obvious many here have never written code & certainly not of enterprise class size, because expecting to be able to do it in a heartbeat or miracles as others stated about doesn't happen overnight
Well, the expectation can happen overnight, but the programming certainly can't.;)
Personally I think the current filesystem arrangement on Windows Server 2003 is just fine and it has been fine for ages. Windows Server 2003 is the core code of the next release, LongHorn, it's foundation. It is stable and solid as a rock imo. I have been using it for all of this year 2005 and much of 2004 as well. I can safely make that statement.
And you could say the same for HFS+, ext3, & reiser3. What's your point here?
However, again, the more I come to slashdot, the more it seems it is just ammo for the pro linux zealot's jihad against Microsoft with it not being in these Longhorn beta
Are you new here? I've been around for a few years now, and it's always looked this way, to me.;)
Considering that it's the "power" switch, I'd say that's the least acceptable way to do it.
WTF?!?!?!1!!One! I pushed the power button, and all the computer does is pop up this shitty window!
Honestly, I think it'd be great if the power button just turned off the computer. You know... cuz off is what you'd expect.
And it should also be noted that the issue with ACPI isn't always Windows--there are more than a few buggy implementations on MoBos, and lacpi really sucks on some processors, too (Notably, celeron).
Also, there are a few that make windows translucent when they are in the background. This helps alot with user concentration, as the other windows actually "blend into the background".
Of course, that detracts from the above functionality significantly.
Nice try but you should remember to close your tags. Not sure how you managed to screw that up since/. forces you to preview your posts...
When you have an account, you can just submit.
There is nothing funnier than seeing someone criticizing another person only to make a fool of his self in the process
Yes, but in Ubuntu (last I checked) you needed to add the universal repository to/etc/apt/sources.list before you had access to anything major. One of the "benefits" that Ubuntu has is it limits the packages available to users. Unfortunately, it makes it harder for those of us who *like* choice.
I think Kubuntu has Kynaptic/KPackage or something similar as a package manager as well.
I tried Ubuntu out for a week or so. I realized I hated Gnome, and turned it into a Debian testing box. I also tried Kubuntu out (about a week after release). I realized I hated Gnome and installed Gentoo. (KDE in Kubuntu was basically set up like Gnome, at the time).
I also had large issues with the number of needless packages kubuntu installed (for some reason, it had postfix going), and it ran incredably slow. There was no difference in speed between the liveCD and the installation... and that includes application load times, where I had to wait for the CD drive to spin up before it loaded anything. It's probably changed by now, but it didn't present a wonderful experience to me.
Currently, I am still with Gentoo. For now, it's the best amd64 environment I have seen.
If not, then you should have seen this one coming...
Why do you care so much?
Because those of us who comment want a large variety of ways to express our done-to-death jokes and opinions. Besides, it's fun to pick on the editors.
you personally involved in this site?
On a more serious note, yes, we are. The people who form the community of/. are highly involved in the site. We provide the world-renown sarcam, humor, and insight. Think of us as a reincarnation of USENET.
But why do you still post a comment under the dupe? Just consider the dupe a troll posting and do the only right thing: ignore it.
But it's not as fun that way.
Why do you read the same article again, and why do you still read slashdot?
We don't read the same article again. We read it for the first time!
Also, there indeed are people that don't refresh/. every 5 minutes to get the latest, freshest story, so if it is a "hot" story, why not make sure even less-frequent visitors get to see it?
This could easily be solved by creating a "hot stories" section to further clutter up the page... If there are more than 300 posts, it gets 1 extra day. More than 600, 2. More than 1000, it's there all damn week... well, you should get the idea.
In any case, the appropriate solution isn't to post a dupe article... then all of "the Funny or the Insigtful ones" are lost to those who read the dupe.
Right... but you are now comparing oranges to apples. Firefox is not a QT/KDE application. I tuses its own rendering libraries, and GTK for widgets.
Installing any app in KDE (in my experience) that uses the KDE libraries (and I think QT apps as well) will cause the exact same behavior. E.G. QT apps and 3rd-party KDE apps "fit right in".
What would be cool is if those distros came out with an easy way of adding a site to their repositories... Something like a link you could click (or file you can download/etc) that would add to your config files... That way, you get their repo, and it can be included in all future releases. Something akin to autopackage, but based around the other package management systems... e.g. apt/yast/portage
I'm hardly "utterly uninformed" about the current state of desktop Linux. I use it every day
Unfortunately, if you do not use KDE, then you are horribly uninformed... You rule out part of the system before even seeing it. (I do the same thing--refuse to use Gnome;)
As for Carbon/Cocoa, they behave almost identically (emphasis added)
"Almost" doesn't cut it for consistency. I reccomend you try KDE sometime... it remains internally consistent the entire time. (Because it can be configured willy-nilly, it can be different between systems, but any app in KDE has controls that function identically to all others. When a control gets special treatment in 1 app, it is either A: experimental, or B: transferred to the rest of KDE before release). I'd say the same for gnome, but I don't really know.
(I do agree with the GP, though. KDE <-> Gnome cooperation could use some work.;)
And, of couse, I am not saying that KDE is perfect. However, your knowledge of it seems to be rather lacking.
Furthermore I think that Linux is in many regards more consistent and more polished than Windows. It doesn't get into my way so much and lets me do things faster and easier, that's for sure. Since using the last few iterations of Gnome I find myself swearing at stupid Windows more often.
Albeit I am a KDE man myself, Amen to that, brother.
After you get around it's qwirks (Which don't even exist, for the most part, if you use K/Ubuntu), it provides a more consistent and user-friendly way of doing most day-to-day activities. And it keeps getting better every day.:)
You know, it may be helpful to respond with a more meaningful reply in the future... The attitude of "Just use Google" is detrimental in and of itself. It shows that you are too lazy to help others, which in turn says that you don't care.
And if you don't care, then why offer advice in the first place?
Yes. There are several distros that you can install on the macintosh. Do a Google search for PowerPC (or possibly "ppc") to get a full list.
Yellow Dog is the version that I last knew that would run on it. You can also install many linux apps directly within OSX. (No clue how... I am strictly a "PC" user.
Ubuntu (Gnome), and KUbuntu also have Mac versions. Hope this helps.:)
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Wow.
While the screenshots may be authentic, I think that the poster was joking around something fierce with this one.
How will you be able to differentiate it from all the crap that's already there? *ducks*
I don't know... it's sounding pretty good. ;)
And /. is whore-like with it's mandatory waits between posts.
Slashdot has tons of anti-MS bias, though. Linux definitely has it's fair share of security problems. They're just not as widely publicised. (I am one of the dual users you speak of).
And here I was all ready to call you a karma whore... but you posted as AC. Oh, and btw, you forgot about the tpyos.
Naw. I'd say that's BSD ;)
mean, why is it that everyone is getting so 'uptight' here about that anyhow? I don't see Linux with a DB driven filesystem either!
Honestly, I don't think that DB is the way to do it either. I find indexing (ala Tenor/Spotlight) a much better solution. Regardless of that, though--you must admit that the Windows search engine blows.
And, in a related topic: Most filesystems are, in fact, database driven. They use many of the same algorithms, provide atomic operations, and have queries (file locations). It just so happens that they don't use SQL to do it.
(Windows NT-based Os' are built to have an extensible filesystem)
May I be the first to plug Reiser 4?
However, it's obvious many here have never written code & certainly not of enterprise class size, because expecting to be able to do it in a heartbeat or miracles as others stated about doesn't happen overnight
Well, the expectation can happen overnight, but the programming certainly can't. ;)
Personally I think the current filesystem arrangement on Windows Server 2003 is just fine and it has been fine for ages. Windows Server 2003 is the core code of the next release, LongHorn, it's foundation. It is stable and solid as a rock imo. I have been using it for all of this year 2005 and much of 2004 as well. I can safely make that statement.
And you could say the same for HFS+, ext3, & reiser3. What's your point here?
However, again, the more I come to slashdot, the more it seems it is just ammo for the pro linux zealot's jihad against Microsoft with it not being in these Longhorn beta
Are you new here? I've been around for a few years now, and it's always looked this way, to me. ;)
Note: most of this made purely in jest :)
WTF?!?!?!1!!One! I pushed the power button, and all the computer does is pop up this shitty window!
Honestly, I think it'd be great if the power button just turned off the computer. You know... cuz off is what you'd expect.
And it should also be noted that the issue with ACPI isn't always Windows--there are more than a few buggy implementations on MoBos, and lacpi really sucks on some processors, too (Notably, celeron).
My KDE doesn't look a whit like Windows. It's currently configured to act like screen. ;)
Of course, that detracts from the above functionality significantly.
Moran.
-Rick
Gun crime is increasing (that's going up for the slower readers) in England since they banned them - morOn.
I think you may have inappropriately capitalized the letter O in moron. :)
When you have an account, you can just submit. There is nothing funnier than seeing someone criticizing another person only to make a fool of his self in the process
You mean himslef? XD
I think Kubuntu has Kynaptic/KPackage or something similar as a package manager as well.
I tried Ubuntu out for a week or so. I realized I hated Gnome, and turned it into a Debian testing box. I also tried Kubuntu out (about a week after release). I realized I hated Gnome and installed Gentoo. (KDE in Kubuntu was basically set up like Gnome, at the time).
I also had large issues with the number of needless packages kubuntu installed (for some reason, it had postfix going), and it ran incredably slow. There was no difference in speed between the liveCD and the installation... and that includes application load times, where I had to wait for the CD drive to spin up before it loaded anything. It's probably changed by now, but it didn't present a wonderful experience to me.
Currently, I am still with Gentoo. For now, it's the best amd64 environment I have seen.
If not, then you should have seen this one coming...
Why do you care so much?
Because those of us who comment want a large variety of ways to express our done-to-death jokes and opinions. Besides, it's fun to pick on the editors.
you personally involved in this site?
On a more serious note, yes, we are. The people who form the community of /. are highly involved in the site. We provide the world-renown sarcam, humor, and insight. Think of us as a reincarnation of USENET.
But why do you still post a comment under the dupe? Just consider the dupe a troll posting and do the only right thing: ignore it.
But it's not as fun that way.
Why do you read the same article again, and why do you still read slashdot?
We don't read the same article again. We read it for the first time!
Also, there indeed are people that don't refresh /. every 5 minutes to get the latest, freshest story, so if it is a "hot" story, why not make sure even less-frequent visitors get to see it?
This could easily be solved by creating a "hot stories" section to further clutter up the page... If there are more than 300 posts, it gets 1 extra day. More than 600, 2. More than 1000, it's there all damn week... well, you should get the idea.
In any case, the appropriate solution isn't to post a dupe article... then all of "the Funny or the Insigtful ones" are lost to those who read the dupe.
What a brilliant way to argue logically!
Installing any app in KDE (in my experience) that uses the KDE libraries (and I think QT apps as well) will cause the exact same behavior. E.G. QT apps and 3rd-party KDE apps "fit right in".
Always wanted to do that. Someone, please kill me now. ;)
Actually, they see a pimply faced underweight guy who is waaaaaay too into star wars and lives with his mom.
They dig it, too. No. I swear.
If your time is so valuable, why are you wasting it here? ;)
What would be cool is if those distros came out with an easy way of adding a site to their repositories... Something like a link you could click (or file you can download/etc) that would add to your config files... That way, you get their repo, and it can be included in all future releases. Something akin to autopackage, but based around the other package management systems... e.g. apt/yast/portage
Unfortunately, if you do not use KDE, then you are horribly uninformed... You rule out part of the system before even seeing it. (I do the same thing--refuse to use Gnome ;)
As for Carbon/Cocoa, they behave almost identically (emphasis added)
"Almost" doesn't cut it for consistency. I reccomend you try KDE sometime... it remains internally consistent the entire time. (Because it can be configured willy-nilly, it can be different between systems, but any app in KDE has controls that function identically to all others. When a control gets special treatment in 1 app, it is either A: experimental, or B: transferred to the rest of KDE before release). I'd say the same for gnome, but I don't really know.
(I do agree with the GP, though. KDE <-> Gnome cooperation could use some work. ;)
And, of couse, I am not saying that KDE is perfect. However, your knowledge of it seems to be rather lacking.
Albeit I am a KDE man myself, Amen to that, brother.
After you get around it's qwirks (Which don't even exist, for the most part, if you use K/Ubuntu), it provides a more consistent and user-friendly way of doing most day-to-day activities. And it keeps getting better every day. :)
You know, it may be helpful to respond with a more meaningful reply in the future... The attitude of "Just use Google" is detrimental in and of itself. It shows that you are too lazy to help others, which in turn says that you don't care.
And if you don't care, then why offer advice in the first place?
Yellow Dog is the version that I last knew that would run on it. You can also install many linux apps directly within OSX. (No clue how... I am strictly a "PC" user.
Ubuntu (Gnome), and KUbuntu also have Mac versions. Hope this helps. :)