Those people who are happy to pay $200 for a machine and spend the time getting it to run well with something like Linux even at the expense of a better experience which may cost 6x as much (Apple).
Speak for yourself. I use Linux because for me it is the better experience. Kind of like for Mac people, OSX is and for windows people, well, windows is. That's a very arrogant attitude you have there.
I have an iPad and a Xoom with ice cream sandwich. The Xoom is the superior experience. As a matter of fact, the iPad is less than two feet away from me right now yet I'm typing this on the android tablet.
Absolutely. I'm typing this on it so I can give you a good account of the differences. The first thing that you notice ootb is how much smoother ics is than honeycomb. There isn't even a comparison in that department. The browser is butter. There isn't any text lag when typing comments into websites like Slash dot. The text prediction on the keyboard is moles and away better. As fast as aesthetics go, it doesn't look a whole lot different at least not like the striking difference between ics and gingerbread on my phone. But there are differences. The roboto font is much more attractive than Droid sans and the new ics launcher is more eye candy-ish. It is like the one on the phone now where when you slide, one screen comes up behind the other. Also, 2 D apps can have forced video acceleration thereby making them a lot smoother. To sum it up, the night and day difference in smoothness is enough to upgrade. The rest is just gravy. To tell the truth, I had been using my Xoom a lot less over my iPad but with ics, now I use my Xoom almost exclusively for the simple fact that while hc isn't better than iOS, ice cream sandwich just flat out is.
As the owner of a net book, iPad and a Xoom, I can tell you right now there is no comparison. The tablets have nice beautiful touch screens, super light weight, GPS, and the net book has a crappy screen, cramped keyboard and shit ergonomics for standing and using which is where a tablet really signs.
tl; dr My net book collects dust and my Xoom has to be charged daily.
I have a Xoom and use Android for the touch friendliness and use Ubuntu in a chroot with a vncviewer for X applications. The combo works surprisingly well. Android for 98 percent of the time and Linux when I need it.
If you like your Xoom now, you're gonna love it when you get ics installed. Text lag is gone. The browser is butter smooth and the face lift from hc makes the whole experience just that much more enjoyable. I got a build of ics off of xda-developers and could never go back to 3.2.
Like most hardware manufacturers, they are trying to get out of updating and maintaining software since it's a loss for them.
So, you're saying HTC is using this as an excuse to not update their software? Last I checked if an OEM doesn't want to update, they just don't. They don't need to throw any bones. You're reading way too much into this.
Unlocking lets the whiners who notice or care about updates go play and leave HTC alone to abandon the handsets after ~12 months post release.
So people that want to use their devices with their own software are "whiners" now? I thought they were paying enthusiastic customers who might or might not have a trusted opinion their less tech savvy friends and family might be relying on to make future smart phone purchases.
It's the real challenge Android has versus WebOs, Windows Phone, and iOS.
Normal people don't care about updates or unlocked boot loaders. Do a poll of the next 100 Android users you see and see how many of them even know what version of Android they are on and if there is a newer version than what they have. You will find that the vast majority don't know and will be more annoyed by the question than anything else because they just don't care. Updated competitor handsets is not what Android has to worry about. Android has the formula down pat. Give the customer the features they want at the price they are willing to pay. That's it. In that arena, only windows phone has a hope of competing in any time soon if they can get the price of the handsets down with some cheap SOCs. Until that happens, Android will reign supreme as it has for a while now and the dominance will only accelerate because the formula ain't changing anytime soon.
They should. I have Ice Cream Sandwich on my Xoom and it beats the shit out of any Honeycomb tablet I've seen yet despite being Tegra2 clocked at 1GHz. Seriously, this thing flies and the text lag is gone.
We saw it when gaming shifted from PCs to consoles
Surely it didn't have anything to do with the game developers having much easier times enforcing their drm therefore just producing less for the PC and more for the consoles forcing gamers themselves to switch...
Exactly what is happening on Android. Android's future is Windows Mobile 5's past already.
As a current user of Ice Cream Sandwich on a Motorola Xoom, you sir are quite wrong. What Android tablets needed was good software. That software is here.
You have to balance that witu available resources. With something like the scripting layee for Android, you learn a real language that can help you be more employable. You even have your choice. Python, perl, php, javascript, etc. And Python is super easy. You can learn to code by *gasp* actually coding. Instead of fiddling around with drag and drop crap that only does what the tool designer thought of you can make real applications and actually upload them to the Android market.
I just asked a simple question. A lot of electrons have been spilled today telling me in so many words that there are no examples of successful apps written with the tools mentioned on windows phone. Thank you.
It was just an analogy but I thought it would be blindingly obvious that I was talking about just handing money out. I wasn't referring to the whole allowance concept. I guess not.
Why not just use the http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/">scripting layer for android and avail yourself to several real programming languages like python, perl, Lua, PHP, beans hell, JavaScript, etc. that can also be used right on the phone. I wrote a great barcode scanning app with it and made a lot of money at garage sales.
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Those people who are happy to pay $200 for a machine and spend the time getting it to run well with something like Linux even at the expense of a better experience which may cost 6x as much (Apple).
Speak for yourself. I use Linux because for me it is the better experience. Kind of like for Mac people, OSX is and for windows people, well, windows is. That's a very arrogant attitude you have there.
Touché
I have an iPad and a Xoom with ice cream sandwich. The Xoom is the superior experience. As a matter of fact, the iPad is less than two feet away from me right now yet I'm typing this on the android tablet.
Absolutely. I'm typing this on it so I can give you a good account of the differences. The first thing that you notice ootb is how much smoother ics is than honeycomb. There isn't even a comparison in that department. The browser is butter. There isn't any text lag when typing comments into websites like Slash dot. The text prediction on the keyboard is moles and away better. As fast as aesthetics go, it doesn't look a whole lot different at least not like the striking difference between ics and gingerbread on my phone. But there are differences. The roboto font is much more attractive than Droid sans and the new ics launcher is more eye candy-ish. It is like the one on the phone now where when you slide, one screen comes up behind the other. Also, 2 D apps can have forced video acceleration thereby making them a lot smoother. To sum it up, the night and day difference in smoothness is enough to upgrade. The rest is just gravy. To tell the truth, I had been using my Xoom a lot less over my iPad but with ics, now I use my Xoom almost exclusively for the simple fact that while hc isn't better than iOS, ice cream sandwich just flat out is.
The Xoom runs fantastically with ics. You'll love it.
tl; dr My net book collects dust and my Xoom has to be charged daily.
I have a Xoom and use Android for the touch friendliness and use Ubuntu in a chroot with a vncviewer for X applications. The combo works surprisingly well. Android for 98 percent of the time and Linux when I need it.
If you like your Xoom now, you're gonna love it when you get ics installed. Text lag is gone. The browser is butter smooth and the face lift from hc makes the whole experience just that much more enjoyable. I got a build of ics off of xda-developers and could never go back to 3.2.
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Like most hardware manufacturers, they are trying to get out of updating and maintaining software since it's a loss for them.
So, you're saying HTC is using this as an excuse to not update their software? Last I checked if an OEM doesn't want to update, they just don't. They don't need to throw any bones. You're reading way too much into this.
Unlocking lets the whiners who notice or care about updates go play and leave HTC alone to abandon the handsets after ~12 months post release.
So people that want to use their devices with their own software are "whiners" now? I thought they were paying enthusiastic customers who might or might not have a trusted opinion their less tech savvy friends and family might be relying on to make future smart phone purchases.
It's the real challenge Android has versus WebOs, Windows Phone, and iOS.
Normal people don't care about updates or unlocked boot loaders. Do a poll of the next 100 Android users you see and see how many of them even know what version of Android they are on and if there is a newer version than what they have. You will find that the vast majority don't know and will be more annoyed by the question than anything else because they just don't care. Updated competitor handsets is not what Android has to worry about. Android has the formula down pat. Give the customer the features they want at the price they are willing to pay. That's it. In that arena, only windows phone has a hope of competing in any time soon if they can get the price of the handsets down with some cheap SOCs. Until that happens, Android will reign supreme as it has for a while now and the dominance will only accelerate because the formula ain't changing anytime soon.
They should. I have Ice Cream Sandwich on my Xoom and it beats the shit out of any Honeycomb tablet I've seen yet despite being Tegra2 clocked at 1GHz. Seriously, this thing flies and the text lag is gone.
You missed a quotation mark in your tag.
We saw it when gaming shifted from PCs to consoles
Surely it didn't have anything to do with the game developers having much easier times enforcing their drm therefore just producing less for the PC and more for the consoles forcing gamers themselves to switch...
Exactly what is happening on Android. Android's future is Windows Mobile 5's past already.
As a current user of Ice Cream Sandwich on a Motorola Xoom, you sir are quite wrong. What Android tablets needed was good software. That software is here.
why do you think the carriers and OEMs love Android?
Because people want it and it sells.
Why don't you actually log in and tell us more?
Fuck you, bitch. Rhetorical this dick in your mouth.
You have to balance that witu available resources. With something like the scripting layee for Android, you learn a real language that can help you be more employable. You even have your choice. Python, perl, php, javascript, etc. And Python is super easy. You can learn to code by *gasp* actually coding. Instead of fiddling around with drag and drop crap that only does what the tool designer thought of you can make real applications and actually upload them to the Android market.
Nothing is actually being taught.
Printer hack sounds awesome. Have fun!
I just asked a simple question. A lot of electrons have been spilled today telling me in so many words that there are no examples of successful apps written with the tools mentioned on windows phone. Thank you.
It was just an analogy but I thought it would be blindingly obvious that I was talking about just handing money out. I wasn't referring to the whole allowance concept. I guess not.
Why not just use the http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/">scripting layer for android and avail yourself to several real programming languages like python, perl, Lua, PHP, beans hell, JavaScript, etc. that can also be used right on the phone. I wrote a great barcode scanning app with it and made a lot of money at garage sales.