Yeah and getting a paycheck is the fun side of working a job. Should we hand kids 20 dollar bills and pretend we are teaching them a work ethic? Dragging and dropping generic blocks of code outlives its pedagogical usefulness in about 20 minutes with a kid smart enough that he'll ever be a programmer anyway. Not to mention the fact that dragging and dropping a GUI is actually one of the boringest parts of programming. Coming up with the clever algorithm to solve a problem is what is fun and touchdevelop will never teach that. Basic would be much better and python would be infinitely better than that as it is a programming language that they might actually see one day and it is brain dead easy to boot.
I didn't say sales was the point. I was merely asking if anything he could point to was both successful and written with the tools he was extolling. To use your definition of useful, are there any interesting utilities or anything else written with it. If you can't find anything at all, how good can it really be? There are several examples of useful apps in the android market made with the scripting layer for android so it has merit.
Asking the person that is raving about how good a particular development tool is what apps have been developed with it is "missing the point"? Sure. I can provide you links to several popular apps in the android market right now that were developed with the scripting layer for android. Why mess around with touchdevelop when you can use a real language like python that is very popular in real environments yet also very easy for beginners to learn and write real apps with?
Running ics on my Xoom right now. It thoroughly rocks. Very smooth and typing lag on web pages is gone. Its still alpha but I'm using it as a daily driver with no problem.
My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the family of the murdered man but are cameras really the answer? How about more cops that know their beats and actually engage people without being dicks? That may actually make a real difference.
Yeah, there are a few things that will take some getting used to and I do prefer my buttons over my friends Galaxy Nexus on screen ones. Other than that, I am thoroughly impressed with ics on my phone. It is so much smoother and more elegant than gingerbread, I could never go back. I'm particularly liking the new design language with the menus at the top carried over from honeycomb. Android has desperately needed a coherent look andfeel that app designers could adopt. Still a way to go but it's coming together.
oakgrove why do you stalk hairyfeet and apk all over slashdot like a mentally disturbed stalker? They are not the same person you know!
And you have this on good authority? I'd bet dollars to donuts that apk and hairyfeet are one and the same. They both descend into lengthy incoherent off-topic rants when you hit one of their "hot buttons". They both randomly capitalize and bold words. They both employ very similar grammatical and lexical patterns. I would be very surprised if the two accounts aren't being run by the same person.
Does Clementine implement the "mini" view functionality of Amarok 1.4 yet? That was one of the main things I liked about the old software.
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Before I go out and buy a tablet to run SL4A, how good is SL4A?
Sl4a is great. The only real problem is not being able to pass command line arguments to your scripts and the inability to create a solid GUI interface. That having been said, I wrote a killer barcode app that interfaces with Amazons ecs api. Whipped it up in python in a few days and have made a ton of money with it.
Insightin140bytes is almost certainly the latest in a long line of nicks that do nothing but paid shilling on Slashdot. This latest one started up right around the time CmdrPony dropped off. Before that it was cgeys, before that it was TechLA. This is the firm that is paid to shill on Slashdot.
With Linux package management, I can add any repository I want and I can easily install applications from any source without the package manager. Do either of these apply to the Wimdows 8 app store and the Metro imterface and apps? If not then this is nothing like what you get with Linux. My understanding was that Metro apps could pnly be installed from the MS officially sanctioned app store.
How many apps are you allowed to install with chevron? Isn't it something like 10? Why would I be excited about being allowed to pay to only install 10 of my own apps on my own device that I bought and paid for? Because it's "official"? Why do I even bother replying to this stuff?
As long as you insist on disengaging your brain when it comes to your fanboy precious I will not let it go.
Your interpretation and comprehension is wrong
No it is not. No matter how many times you try to explain yourself out of it the fact is that when the potential success of the new windows 8 interface was challenged you didn't calmly explain why the challengers were wrong, you went straight for the "But but but...office 2007". What you are not getting is that whether office succeeded or didn't has no bearing on whether windows 8 will succeed or not. Let's assume that your backpedaling is valid and you simply meant to point out that a product with a radically new ui can maintain mainstream acceptance. First of all the changes to office 2007 pale in comparison to the changes between windows 7 and Metro as is on windows 8 so the comparison isn't even valid anyway. Furthermore, many products have failed after making fundamental interface changes so you haven't added anything to the discussion anyway so by all rights you should have been modded redundant and moved on. So however you want to twist it, you know you are wrong and your logic fails. But you get to think you scored points for your objet de desire so I guess that's what makes you happy. Enjoy.
Are you fucking stupid? He has no point. Whether a ui paradigm change will be accepted presently or in the future has no relation to whether some other ui change was accepted in the past on a different product. You could draw an equal comparison by saying that the ui change for some other product led to a mass defection therefore it is possible that windows 8's change will lead to the same thing. Both possible are still just as equal as they were so by pointing to office 2007 you have not added any additional data to the question at all. You people fail on the most fundamental level of critical thinking of all. Assuming that superficially similar situations automatically correlate and add information. They don't. Period. I get it you are trying to stump for Windows but at least think about what I'm saying.
The original statement was wrong and no matter how much you and that other moron gcnaddict want to pretend otherwise, it is wrong. It's so wrong that in the immortal words of Richard Feynman it's "not even wrong" because in order to be wrong you would have to at least have a clue what you are talking about. I get it you like Windows and you will say anything it takes to show how much a fanboy you are even resorting to overt intellectual dishonesty. Fine. So be it. I get it. I also get that this is small shit. Maybe you just lie to yourself about windows and nothing else. If so good for you. Not great but at least good. However, if you have this much trouble with basic discernment in other areas of your life that you do in something like this then you have bigger problems than trying to convince me that basic precepts of logic and common sense don't apply.
It was an analogy of the initial reactions to the UIs, not the UIs themselves. Not difficult stuff.
And the point was that it added absolutely nothing to the debate. Basically he's saying that $ARBITRARY_PROGRAM survived a ux paradigm shift therefore $IMPLICATION applies to windows 8. That's equivalent to saying if I toss 10 heads in a row a tails is more likely the next time around. That fails the most fundamental tests of critical thinking. My respect for the slashdot groupthink has taken a nosedive today. I'm sorry but you guys are a bunch of idiots.
That's what you guys said about Office 2007, and that actually turned out well in hindsight.
His statement is implying that since people accepted Office 2007 then the same will happen with Windows 8. That's prima facie absurd. If Windows 8 is good it will be accepted. If it isn't, it won't. Office 2007 has nothing to do with it.
My English is fine.
If you can't grasp simple facts, your command of the English language is the least of your problem.
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It teaches them the fun side of programming,
Yeah and getting a paycheck is the fun side of working a job. Should we hand kids 20 dollar bills and pretend we are teaching them a work ethic? Dragging and dropping generic blocks of code outlives its pedagogical usefulness in about 20 minutes with a kid smart enough that he'll ever be a programmer anyway. Not to mention the fact that dragging and dropping a GUI is actually one of the boringest parts of programming. Coming up with the clever algorithm to solve a problem is what is fun and touchdevelop will never teach that. Basic would be much better and python would be infinitely better than that as it is a programming language that they might actually see one day and it is brain dead easy to boot.
I didn't say sales was the point. I was merely asking if anything he could point to was both successful and written with the tools he was extolling. To use your definition of useful, are there any interesting utilities or anything else written with it. If you can't find anything at all, how good can it really be? There are several examples of useful apps in the android market made with the scripting layer for android so it has merit.
Asking the person that is raving about how good a particular development tool is what apps have been developed with it is "missing the point"? Sure. I can provide you links to several popular apps in the android market right now that were developed with the scripting layer for android. Why mess around with touchdevelop when you can use a real language like python that is very popular in real environments yet also very easy for beginners to learn and write real apps with?
Can you point me to any particularly great apps that have been developed by one of these beginners and sold well?
Running ics on my Xoom right now. It thoroughly rocks. Very smooth and typing lag on web pages is gone. Its still alpha but I'm using it as a daily driver with no problem.
My deepest and sincerest sympathies to the family of the murdered man but are cameras really the answer? How about more cops that know their beats and actually engage people without being dicks? That may actually make a real difference.
That would be the worst mistake in the history of the world. Times a thousand.
The GP has a good point. Concede with dignity.
Yeah, there are a few things that will take some getting used to and I do prefer my buttons over my friends Galaxy Nexus on screen ones. Other than that, I am thoroughly impressed with ics on my phone. It is so much smoother and more elegant than gingerbread, I could never go back. I'm particularly liking the new design language with the menus at the top carried over from honeycomb. Android has desperately needed a coherent look andfeel that app designers could adopt. Still a way to go but it's coming together.
What the hell is wrong with Android 4? I'm posting with it now on a Nexus S and it's a pretty fantastic mobile OS imho.
I don't have to be a baker to know the bread is stale, guy(s).
I've seen hairyfeet and apk go at one another like rabid dogs - not getting along with one another in the past over hosts files versus dns servers.
Easily explainable. Multiple personality disorder, paranoid schizophrenia, teh lulz. Take your pick.
You're just trying to play amateur sleuth and failing, and stalking others in the process like some mentally disturbed maniac stalker would.
Wow, calm your tits, dude. It's just a message board not the UN committee on all things interweb.
oakgrove why do you stalk hairyfeet and apk all over slashdot like a mentally disturbed stalker? They are not the same person you know!
And you have this on good authority? I'd bet dollars to donuts that apk and hairyfeet are one and the same. They both descend into lengthy incoherent off-topic rants when you hit one of their "hot buttons". They both randomly capitalize and bold words. They both employ very similar grammatical and lexical patterns. I would be very surprised if the two accounts aren't being run by the same person.
Does Clementine implement the "mini" view functionality of Amarok 1.4 yet? That was one of the main things I liked about the old software.
Before I go out and buy a tablet to run SL4A, how good is SL4A?
Sl4a is great. The only real problem is not being able to pass command line arguments to your scripts and the inability to create a solid GUI interface. That having been said, I wrote a killer barcode app that interfaces with Amazons ecs api. Whipped it up in python in a few days and have made a ton of money with it.
How long did it take to grow the trees the wood was harvested from to build that 6-week house?
Insightin140bytes is almost certainly the latest in a long line of nicks that do nothing but paid shilling on Slashdot. This latest one started up right around the time CmdrPony dropped off. Before that it was cgeys, before that it was TechLA. This is the firm that is paid to shill on Slashdot.
With Linux package management, I can add any repository I want and I can easily install applications from any source without the package manager. Do either of these apply to the Wimdows 8 app store and the Metro imterface and apps? If not then this is nothing like what you get with Linux. My understanding was that Metro apps could pnly be installed from the MS officially sanctioned app store.
How many apps are you allowed to install with chevron? Isn't it something like 10? Why would I be excited about being allowed to pay to only install 10 of my own apps on my own device that I bought and paid for? Because it's "official"? Why do I even bother replying to this stuff?
I'm glad you found some literature appropriate to your level. Now do us all a favor by eating your own butt cheeks until you bleed to death.
So just let it go.
As long as you insist on disengaging your brain when it comes to your fanboy precious I will not let it go.
Your interpretation and comprehension is wrong
No it is not. No matter how many times you try to explain yourself out of it the fact is that when the potential success of the new windows 8 interface was challenged you didn't calmly explain why the challengers were wrong, you went straight for the "But but but...office 2007". What you are not getting is that whether office succeeded or didn't has no bearing on whether windows 8 will succeed or not. Let's assume that your backpedaling is valid and you simply meant to point out that a product with a radically new ui can maintain mainstream acceptance. First of all the changes to office 2007 pale in comparison to the changes between windows 7 and Metro as is on windows 8 so the comparison isn't even valid anyway. Furthermore, many products have failed after making fundamental interface changes so you haven't added anything to the discussion anyway so by all rights you should have been modded redundant and moved on. So however you want to twist it, you know you are wrong and your logic fails. But you get to think you scored points for your objet de desire so I guess that's what makes you happy. Enjoy.
Are you fucking stupid? He has no point. Whether a ui paradigm change will be accepted presently or in the future has no relation to whether some other ui change was accepted in the past on a different product. You could draw an equal comparison by saying that the ui change for some other product led to a mass defection therefore it is possible that windows 8's change will lead to the same thing. Both possible are still just as equal as they were so by pointing to office 2007 you have not added any additional data to the question at all. You people fail on the most fundamental level of critical thinking of all. Assuming that superficially similar situations automatically correlate and add information. They don't. Period. I get it you are trying to stump for Windows but at least think about what I'm saying.
The original statement was wrong and no matter how much you and that other moron gcnaddict want to pretend otherwise, it is wrong. It's so wrong that in the immortal words of Richard Feynman it's "not even wrong" because in order to be wrong you would have to at least have a clue what you are talking about. I get it you like Windows and you will say anything it takes to show how much a fanboy you are even resorting to overt intellectual dishonesty. Fine. So be it. I get it. I also get that this is small shit. Maybe you just lie to yourself about windows and nothing else. If so good for you. Not great but at least good. However, if you have this much trouble with basic discernment in other areas of your life that you do in something like this then you have bigger problems than trying to convince me that basic precepts of logic and common sense don't apply.
It was an analogy of the initial reactions to the UIs, not the UIs themselves. Not difficult stuff.
And the point was that it added absolutely nothing to the debate. Basically he's saying that $ARBITRARY_PROGRAM survived a ux paradigm shift therefore $IMPLICATION applies to windows 8. That's equivalent to saying if I toss 10 heads in a row a tails is more likely the next time around. That fails the most fundamental tests of critical thinking. My respect for the slashdot groupthink has taken a nosedive today. I'm sorry but you guys are a bunch of idiots.
That's what you guys said about Office 2007, and that actually turned out well in hindsight.
His statement is implying that since people accepted Office 2007 then the same will happen with Windows 8. That's prima facie absurd. If Windows 8 is good it will be accepted. If it isn't, it won't. Office 2007 has nothing to do with it.
My English is fine.
If you can't grasp simple facts, your command of the English language is the least of your problem.