Oh, God, sing it on the freaking mountain. My elocutory skills have increased 10 fold since getting a job developing software with all of the play by play ridiculous detail I have to go into with management.
If 4/5 of the 200,000 dollar price tag went to administrative and bureaucratic bs, I could still live off of what's left over. Especially if they just let me sit at the house and do the actual programming in my underwear. Based on the description, I feel like I could bust out v1.0 in about 2 weeks for all three platforms.
If Android inherently allows "Google to spy on your customers", how do you explain Amazon's use of it on the Kindle Fire? Do you really believe that if Android did what you accuse it of, Amazon would use it? Do you think you are smarter than Amazon or know something they don't?
I have to say I don't get this one either. They have the market sewn up so it's not like they're going to sell more licenses. And why put themselves under the bundling/trust gun as AV is a thriving industry and this will certainly harm it. And it's not like MS cares what a bunch of knowledgeable forum users think about their software as it's going to sell anyway. The only angle I can imagine is MS smells profits and plans to charge for a Pro version or something.
So then apply and if you aren't picked, finish it anyway. What is your problem? Now you went ranting how Microsoft won't provide their services for everyone that applies, but only to the projects they like best.
Are you really that dense? 20,000 dollars is not even close to enough money for it to make any sense whatsoever to pick your team up, go to Seattle and shack up with a bunch of other rubes like some nerd version of the apprentice for 3 months for the off chance that you might be the lucky schlub that doesn't get voted off the island. This is a stupid idea for anybody through and through. It reminds me of the lottery. A game where a whole bunch of stupid people make one stupid person look really smart.
If you read the article it says the can get more funding after the three month period if VC's like the idea. That's how it works.
How does this help for the practical expenses the first three months which is what is being discussed anyway? Not only that but if the vc's don't like your idea, you get to go home and hope nobody steals your idea which is almost laughable considering you're dealing with a company Microsoft that is known to steal other companies ideas then patenting them and using the patents to extort other companies years later. How much koolaid have you had today?
So prosaically debating the efficacy of whether this program makes sense to the people it is aimed at is "crying" now? And you're aiming your complaint at someone that actually has experience dealing with small startups and venture capitalists? Maybe you should "stop crying" and start listening.
Hairyfeet entering a discussion with personal attacks. How original. I gave a very specific example that is easily verified and all you can do is make snide ad hominems because once again, reality conflicts with your own little carefully manufactured worldview. You are a crank, dude. Everybody knows it. Your MO is always the same. You dive into a discussion with a wall of contextually insignificant tl;dr and when you get slapped down with facts you run and hide for a few days just to do it again. Go run away little boy
I'm sorry, did you have something to say? I couldn't make anything out aside from a tl;dr rant full of nothing but small minded personal attacks and straw men. Please troll harder next time.
So MS gets to see everything you have before they hand you off to some other company. The company that has been caught red handed filing patents on other people's ideas gets to see the cream of the idea crop for kinect development then they get to just stew on it. Based on their obvious propensity for dishonesty, they are almost certainly going to be poring over everything you've shown them searching for any little thing they can use to exploit. No fucking thanks.
Exactly my point. I was responding to the ludicrous implication by the ggp that somehow Microsoft is giving some better deal than Google and Apple in their app market. Not sure what bizzaro world he was getting his idea from.
Why bother? To a fanboy no proof would ever be enough. The display text before image patent was filed after Netscape described the process in their browsers release notes. Now tell me how Microsoft didn't read the documentation for their chief competitor's at the time flagship product.
Does ycombinator threaten to sue other companies with patents derived from ideas they swiped from the release notes of a third party company's web browser? Presenting the text before the background image of a web page was described in the release notes of Netscape version 2 before Microsoft filed for the patent on it. And now they have the gall to threaten to sue over it and it wasn't even their idea. Something tells me ycombinator will give you a much better deal.
That's amazing because when I used to travel I spent a lot of time in the western half of the US and I can't remember a single place not having service with Verizon. And that was over 2 years ago.
The fact that every word of every one of your posts is the product of the mind of a presumably grown man. I flush turds that are smarter than you down the toilet everyday. You have had your "arguments" answered many times by people who have much better thing to do than educate mental midgets like you. Mysteriously when you are given logical reasonable rebuttals to your bullshit you go MIA only to resurface with the same bullshit a few days later. You are like the intelligent design loonies that insist on stupidity like irreducible complexity despite being shown the errors in their thought many times over. Eventually people like you come to be seen as the cranks and frauds you are. I can't have a serious debate with a joke like you or APK for as soon as your arguments are impaled by truth you run and hide. You are a coward only fit to make fun of not seriously discuss anything with. Try not to be aa complete ass for a month and I will try to take you seriously enough to debate with.
But this isn't the first time it's been done with a smartphone. People were making little robots with Android G1 phones a while back using the headphone jack adapter. Is this somehow novel because it was done with an iPhone?
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Really? How would you know?
Oh, God, sing it on the freaking mountain. My elocutory skills have increased 10 fold since getting a job developing software with all of the play by play ridiculous detail I have to go into with management.
If 4/5 of the 200,000 dollar price tag went to administrative and bureaucratic bs, I could still live off of what's left over. Especially if they just let me sit at the house and do the actual programming in my underwear. Based on the description, I feel like I could bust out v1.0 in about 2 weeks for all three platforms.
And obviously you're a stupid american who can't read.
If she couldn't read then how in the fuck did she respond? Obviously, she can read. So what does that make you? Stupid Nationalist Bigot?
If Android inherently allows "Google to spy on your customers", how do you explain Amazon's use of it on the Kindle Fire? Do you really believe that if Android did what you accuse it of, Amazon would use it? Do you think you are smarter than Amazon or know something they don't?
Dammit. Got beat by seconds. Stupid iPad.
Oppression is ugly and this 99 percent one percent thing isn't likely to get better and will probably get a whole lot worse in your lifetime.
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I have to say I don't get this one either. They have the market sewn up so it's not like they're going to sell more licenses. And why put themselves under the bundling/trust gun as AV is a thriving industry and this will certainly harm it. And it's not like MS cares what a bunch of knowledgeable forum users think about their software as it's going to sell anyway. The only angle I can imagine is MS smells profits and plans to charge for a Pro version or something.
So then apply and if you aren't picked, finish it anyway. What is your problem? Now you went ranting how Microsoft won't provide their services for everyone that applies, but only to the projects they like best.
Are you really that dense? 20,000 dollars is not even close to enough money for it to make any sense whatsoever to pick your team up, go to Seattle and shack up with a bunch of other rubes like some nerd version of the apprentice for 3 months for the off chance that you might be the lucky schlub that doesn't get voted off the island. This is a stupid idea for anybody through and through. It reminds me of the lottery. A game where a whole bunch of stupid people make one stupid person look really smart.
If you read the article it says the can get more funding after the three month period if VC's like the idea. That's how it works.
How does this help for the practical expenses the first three months which is what is being discussed anyway? Not only that but if the vc's don't like your idea, you get to go home and hope nobody steals your idea which is almost laughable considering you're dealing with a company Microsoft that is known to steal other companies ideas then patenting them and using the patents to extort other companies years later. How much koolaid have you had today?
So prosaically debating the efficacy of whether this program makes sense to the people it is aimed at is "crying" now? And you're aiming your complaint at someone that actually has experience dealing with small startups and venture capitalists? Maybe you should "stop crying" and start listening.
Hairyfeet entering a discussion with personal attacks. How original. I gave a very specific example that is easily verified and all you can do is make snide ad hominems because once again, reality conflicts with your own little carefully manufactured worldview. You are a crank, dude. Everybody knows it. Your MO is always the same. You dive into a discussion with a wall of contextually insignificant tl;dr and when you get slapped down with facts you run and hide for a few days just to do it again. Go run away little boy
I'm sorry, did you have something to say? I couldn't make anything out aside from a tl;dr rant full of nothing but small minded personal attacks and straw men. Please troll harder next time.
So MS gets to see everything you have before they hand you off to some other company. The company that has been caught red handed filing patents on other people's ideas gets to see the cream of the idea crop for kinect development then they get to just stew on it. Based on their obvious propensity for dishonesty, they are almost certainly going to be poring over everything you've shown them searching for any little thing they can use to exploit. No fucking thanks.
Exactly my point. I was responding to the ludicrous implication by the ggp that somehow Microsoft is giving some better deal than Google and Apple in their app market. Not sure what bizzaro world he was getting his idea from.
Why bother? To a fanboy no proof would ever be enough. The display text before image patent was filed after Netscape described the process in their browsers release notes. Now tell me how Microsoft didn't read the documentation for their chief competitor's at the time flagship product.
Does ycombinator threaten to sue other companies with patents derived from ideas they swiped from the release notes of a third party company's web browser? Presenting the text before the background image of a web page was described in the release notes of Netscape version 2 before Microsoft filed for the patent on it. And now they have the gall to threaten to sue over it and it wasn't even their idea. Something tells me ycombinator will give you a much better deal.
Er, how much does Microsoft take to sell your product on their market? Bias much?
Heh...much more interested in rocking the little man in the boat!
Kids and adults alike will just find new ways to say "beat your meat" "go to hell" or whatever in 3..2..1
The censors cannot possibly hope to keep up.
That's amazing because when I used to travel I spent a lot of time in the western half of the US and I can't remember a single place not having service with Verizon. And that was over 2 years ago.
Sadly, you need to patent that shit, man or we'll be hearing about it in a years time.
Want to know what is pathetic?
The fact that every word of every one of your posts is the product of the mind of a presumably grown man. I flush turds that are smarter than you down the toilet everyday. You have had your "arguments" answered many times by people who have much better thing to do than educate mental midgets like you. Mysteriously when you are given logical reasonable rebuttals to your bullshit you go MIA only to resurface with the same bullshit a few days later. You are like the intelligent design loonies that insist on stupidity like irreducible complexity despite being shown the errors in their thought many times over. Eventually people like you come to be seen as the cranks and frauds you are. I can't have a serious debate with a joke like you or APK for as soon as your arguments are impaled by truth you run and hide. You are a coward only fit to make fun of not seriously discuss anything with. Try not to be aa complete ass for a month and I will try to take you seriously enough to debate with.
But this isn't the first time it's been done with a smartphone. People were making little robots with Android G1 phones a while back using the headphone jack adapter. Is this somehow novel because it was done with an iPhone?